Renegade and Scrambler 1000 Trail Ride Comparison

[@MrTheguywiththemoney]

Glad they're still making fun atvs, but we need some new SPORT quads... bring back the ltr, trx and update the yfz for christ sake.

[@atw196]

Are there any rumors etc about new sports atv ?

[@MrTheguywiththemoney]

@@atw196 no, I'm pretty sure epa or California laws are what's preventing them from making new sport atvs.

[@atw196]

@@MrTheguywiththemoney oh ok damn..how is yamaha still making them ?

[@MrTheguywiththemoney]

@@atw196 the yfz and raptor is grandfathered in I believe. If they change ANYTHING besides colors it would require going through emissions certification again and fail.

[@MrTheguywiththemoney]

@@atw196 for some reason atvs arent classified the same way as dirt bikes... which is BS because they are just dirt bikes with 4 wheels.

[@cclarkie1]

That was a fun day for sure. The renegade is back up and running and ready for some more abuse for our next ride. Hopefully by then I'll have the new shock set up done. As always thanks for the awesome video and the opportunity to ride with you

[@ZachA44]

@cclarkie1 was curious to if you ever had any frame problems with the quad ? See you in the background in some of these videos you just let her fly lol it’s awesome!

[@MATTLEism]

With the experience and trail time I have, I have come to the conclusion that the more plush the wheeler is the the less of a connection you have with it. You nailed the wording of saying the reason why the renegade feels ridged is because you have to really ride it. I would rather have a machine I have to work then let the machine do the work. That's what takes the fun and experience out of the ride. I'll take numb thumb, dead arms and an all around tired body of a ride then not feeling like I even experienced the ride the entire time.

[@OdysseyOffroad]

Great video. I just had my 22 Renegade out this morning for a little bit of a break-in and adjustments of the suspension. The new Renegades have three different drive modes eco mode, standard mode, and sport mode. Sport mode is a blast! standard is great on more technical rough terrain where you don't want the throttle to be as jaby. I wanted my wife to get the scrambler so that I can have both and do some comparisons lmao but she wanted the renegade so now we have 2 1000 Renegades 🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤣 I'd love to rip a scrambler at some point though. My wife had her's at buttercup dunes 2 weeks ago and amazing what it does in the sand. Bring that scrambler down this way!

[@jessemacneil2723]

it was awesome seeing ya compare .

[@wheelstandr]

Anytime myself or others get hurt, they're trying to keep up with the lead guy. Everybody has a different level of bar time, shocks, tires, or power. The very first ride I had in winter after moving back to MN, I hit a tree trying to keep up with my veteran buddies while I was on one of their Polaris Sportsman's 500. Loved that machine but it was no match for an unexpected bowl in the trail. Went into the bowl to the left. Shot me right, into a tree. No helmet, just a bandana on my face with a bomber hat. That was 20 years ago. The lead guy on that day died in a four wheeler accident 12 years later. He was one of the best there was too. It's all fun and games until somebody gets hurt. Be careful out there.

[@jacobsoffroad]

Absolutely killer content as always!

[@bradmcdaniel7258]

Love your videos, you have a great personality and that's why people like your videos of you having fun, happy new year 👍💯🎉

[@PeteHager]

Thank you man! Happy New Year 😊

[@JasonJohnson-bu4hs]

I just put a set of Elka Stage 3 Shocks on my 2017 Renegade 1000R. What a difference so far it has made. I also put on some SLG Rear Fender Support Brackets too.

[@jodybruce5097]

is your renegade smoother and softer with the new shocks? where they hard to change?

[@JasonJohnson-bu4hs]

@@jodybruce5097 Not at all hard to swap out. I had no issues installing them just literally slid right in. As far as smoothness goes I need to get them dialed in more I haven't messed with them to much. Need to call Elka and talk to them. It rides kind of stiff still but I am only 160 to 180 pounds too. Hope this helps! 👍

[@ononewheel7]

Place looks fun. A sweet cheap mod for winter riding check out tusk heated grips ( they are lock on) they do make other brand more expensive kits but the tusk ones are great and the best part is summer gloves all winter long 😎

[@MrJeffyb69]

Awesome video! I'm with you @ 10:00 😞 Where I ride in northern Lower Penninsula Michigan the logging operations has done the same thing, very sad 😞

[@joyrider]

One of the coolest trails I have seen! Good ride! 🚀🏁

[@fordtraxxas]

If you ever make it down to north Texas I ride a 1000xxc can am and I got buddies with sportsman s Polaris we love getting out and hitting some pretty hardcore trails. Definitely need to take a look at red river motorcycle trails.

[@leedimatteo5078]

Chad, love to see the trx rippin!

[@cclarkie1]

Not til next spring, it's tucked away til then. Now it's snowmobile time since we just had about a week if snow.

[@izom]

man wish had trails with sucha jumps- great- thanx for showing u can run the big scrambler fast on tight trails !! ;-)🤩

[@John98512]

please tell me the size, make and model of the tire for the can am.

[@CoolnCasual57]

Always enjoy watching your videos man. Awesome.💯🤟

[@Airstrike_snoozed_them]

Man they both sound so coool

[@marcusturner5291]

Nice review keep up the good work fellas

[@brycecampbell4845]

Would like to see this comparison again. Both new bone stock. And put the same tires on both. Then let's see what results are. Tires could make up a lot of what you are feeling in the corners.

[@PeteHager]

I agree with the tires. I also would love to do this type of comparison on the dirt. The bulk of the trail had an ice base so we were pretty limited on how far we could push things in the corners👍

[@daxmorlock7846]

Super cool video. You might want to try out a clutch kit first then tune and pipe. My brother just clutched his 22 sportsman 570 trail and so far it's pretty impressive. We haven't got to go rip at full speed but that's not what we bought 4wheel drive quads for. I just got a 23 sportsman 850 and love the exhaust note for a stock machine.

[@PeteHager]

We have a pipe and clutch kit on order! Hopefully have it tuned and installed by the end of the month 😬

[@GenSparks]

Nice video love my renegade 1000xxc

[@rotz357]

I got a renegade 1000 xxc 2022. Its a little more smooth but not by much compared to that 16. His steering might not feel as nice caz of his tire setup he has. Also the electronic throttle on the new renegades is really nice. But tbh a renegade fits you better pete, its like a 4wd raptor

[@XMR_King]

Great footage, wish I had a track like that around here

[@JBRAAPY]

Great video!!, nice to see a Renny..

[@shrugger1]

Right On

[@Goo42021]

There is 1000 cc utility quads are great qualified and have fun on but they need to start making some 1,000 CC sports quads I would love to see a reinvented Honda TRX 1000 XX

[@marcusturner5291]

Nice review keep up the good work

[@BrewerOffroad]

Big quads matter too!!

[@____MC____]

More cussion for the...you know the thing.

[@floridatrailrider305]

Nice video, hoping to experience riding in snow one day. Looks fun.

[@mattwilson9293]

its like riding in sloppy slippery mud, but much less messy

[@joeypooschke7914]

Great video Pete. Can’t wait to get out and ride again, it’s been 2 months too long. your videos always get me excited and can’t wait to ride, life and wk been really busy need to make some time tho and go hit the dunes.

[@michaelmcbride7789]

Fun video in the snow!

[@valet132011]

I've owned a scrambler 850 and now a 2020 renegade 850xxc. The scrambler is a much more comfortable ride. The renegade is definitely brut power and aggressive. Definitely 2 different ATVs, each have great things but completely different

[@valet132011]

Raced xc with both, renegade will tire you out a lot faster

[@PeteHager]

Thanks for the experience feedback! I’m excited to see how the Scrambler changes with a couple performance mods 😊

[@teamwoodswarriorsracing2004]

@@valet132011 I've heard bad things about the scrambler for racing

[@michaelakers1890]

Cool Stuff! I'd Drive from Florida for those Trails! I'm @hrs from Croom! WOW...going soon!!! Thanks for the Vids! 100%

[@markperza384]

Looks like a blast!! Do you wear special gloves to ride in the cold weather?

[@PeteHager]

I normally just wear my ski gloves. If it’s really cold I use those hand warmer pouches 😅

[@squarebodycasewademckenney6190]

I wish the atv trails would stay open in the winter here in Maine but they close around November or when it starts snowing then the snowmobile trails open (no atvs on snowmobile trails) it would be fun to ride the atv trails in the snow on a wheeler

[@PeteHager]

Most of our trails are closed in the winter for snowmobiling too.. This is one of the only exceptions. Hopefully you can find a place to go play in the snow 🤘

[@squarebodycasewademckenney6190]

@@PeteHager I'm a part of a atv club up here and they recently passed a "bill" or what ever u want to call it that the trails will stay open until the first groom able snow meaning if we only get a total of like 1 inch or so (some how) this winter the trails stay open. Cuz before they would close the trails just after hunting season but we sometime wouldn't get good snow till January anyway, so this way as long it's not groom able snow for snowmobiles atvs still can run the trails

[@ashleyrasset1635]

That was our favorite trail at spider and they ruined it. Love how you showed what that trail used to look like and shows how disgusting logging is

[@PeteHager]

Yeah I always got super excited for that trail, I’m glad they didn’t log the whole thing. Now that logged section is gonna be super dusty and dried out most of the season 😔

[@Sawyer94..]

the same why i felt when i was buying my 4x4 a month ago. was looking at the sportsman's 850 and outlander 850 since i have yfz450 i wanted something more work but with some power. i found that Polaris ride and 4x4 is better. but the outlander is faster and more sporty. i went with the sportsman care about the ride and 4x4 more then a sporty machine. can am seems to have better quality but you spend more on the machine and parts. i think there both solid choses its all up to which one it best for you really.

[@PeteHager]

Thanks for the feedback! I could see myself having something like the scrambler when I’m fatigued at the end of a big trip but I still prefer the sport quads overall 🤘

[@jsavage9134]

Come to Southaven MS & hit a place called HLB but bring your Polaris gonna need 4x4 & I have a 2022 Can Am Renegade 1000R with full exhaust & tune you can ride! HLB stands for Horn Lake Bottoms… there’s an old Air Plane Hanger in the woods! It’s a lot of side by side trails back there but I’m able to get around just fine.

[@riley_swan]

Hey dude! Happy new year

[@PeteHager]

Happy New year man! 🤘

[@riley_swan]

@@PeteHager thanks for replying dude

[@craiglamb9029]

I would love to see a new DS from CanAm. i have a 2004 DS650 Baja X and i love it. FMF pipe is all i have on it and it wild. i do want a new scrambler or renegade as a 2nd rig that 4x4.

[@kadinwillard]

are you gonna do a build series on your scrambler love your videos

[@PeteHager]

We’re gonna do a pipe, clutch kit, and tuner. We only have the machine for a few months so that’ll probably be it for performance mods 👍

[@davidchiasson4262]

The same thing is happening down my place too, we had a lot a very nice trail to ride but its just desert, they cut all the trees. Thats sad!

[@leedimatteo5078]

Pete, youre welcome to come pickup my 2022 Renny, full HMF and programmer.

[@PeteHager]

That would be a blast man! I wish we lived closer 😅

[@tonylafon8716]

I really want one I was looking at the 2015-2019 version though can’t see myself paying 17k and change for the new one.

[@kadinwillard]

are you gonna do a build series on your scramdler

[@PeteHager]

I’m getting an exhaust and clutch kit lined up for it right now. I plan to have it dyno tuned and will make a video sharing all the results. This quad is a demo unit and we will be returning it back to stock in the spring when it goes back to Polaris 😊👍

[@gavinweber1199]

bring headphones if you’re riding in the car with this guy

[@northwoodsfabricationllc]

Hi Pete, I just bought a Ranger from Mankato Motorsports and am wondering if there are any public trails in the Mankato area? This trail looks great but it’s a bit of a drive for us southern Minnesotans.

[@PeteHager]

Congrats on getting a Ranger! Unfortunately us southern Minnesotans are forced to drive if we want to ride. There’s pretty much 3 options within a 2-2.5 hour drive. We have gypsum city in fort dodge iowa, snake creek near Winona, and Appleton OHV park up by Appleton. I’ve made several videos at all those places If you want to check them out. Gypsum city is the biggest, snake creek is rugged and pretty raw, and Appleton is more of a condensed playground. Locally you could ride gravel roads or try to join the kato cycle club but I’m not sure how much SxS friendly trail there is out there 👍

[@PeteHager]

I also forgot chatfield ATV trail just south of Rochester and there’s another out and back trail that starts in Stockton minnesota. www.riderplanet-usa.com is a sweet resource for looking up trails by state

[@Pete_Heiderscheit22]

Hell yeah pete!

[@jeffaquilino1806]

Hey Pete sick quad you definitely need a exhaust have you narrowed down your options

[@PeteHager]

It’s getting an RJWC APX dual exhaust 😬👍

[@jeffaquilino1806]

@@PeteHager it’s going to sound wicked

[@erinforsale]

scrambler!!

[@kodak5947]

What would you recommend between a yfz450r and raptor 700r? I ride pretty much like you

[@PeteHager]

I'm actually making a video about that currently so hopefully it helps you decide 😊

[@kodak5947]

@@PeteHager ok thank you very much!

[@BadlandsOffRoadParkIndiana]

The greatest to do it.

[@6speedsti241]

i have been interested in both of these, but reliability always stops me from pulling the trigger

[@PeteHager]

That’s definitely an interesting topic. I’m not really bias towards either Can Am or Polaris but I see owners from both sides giving the other a hard time about reliability. Regular maintenance goes a long ways. I do know there’s company’s that make a lot of reinforcement parts for the Polaris but it’s added cost. Both are expensive compared to sport quads 😅

[@mustangdooley]

Any plans on going back to Little Sahara?

[@cclarkie1]

In October

[@BeardedDaddyD]

Wish I had trails like that around me. Is this a pay to play trail? I got rock run near me but don't know if it's worth it.

[@PeteHager]

This is a Minnesota state funded trial so you just need registration and you can ride any of our state trails 😁

[@shawnmcgrath4631]

Would you recommend a scrambler or raptor for trails in the south, obviously no snow'

[@jeffvry4187]

Nice video! Where’s this trail system at? Thank you!

[@PeteHager]

This was the Spider Lake ATV Trails in North Central Minnesota

[@jeffvry4187]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@23MikeJ22]

Heck of a video🙂

[@2strokeFORever]

If any manufacturer offered a manual clutch in this catagory I'd be all over it. Heck even DCT at this point i would be happy with just something with gears

[@PeteHager]

Dudeee that would be so rowdy 😅🤘🤘

[@RaptorWRLD]

very cool video! so i had to google what an "OHV Trail" is lol Off Highway Vehicle???? pretty weird lol this trail reminds me of a bigger gladwin with elevation and way wider, awesome video!

[@justinmochi7323]

I live in Massachusetts and they use ohv to refer to everything from atv to dirt bike to jeep... basically anything that needs to be registered on a trail

[@RaptorWRLD]

@@justinmochi7323 im in michigan and thats the first time i heard the term lol

[@PeteHager]

Don’t you just love how every stay does it differently 🤪

[@RaptorWRLD]

@@PeteHager yea i need to come to Minnesota i guess!

[@piotrek1768]

Amezing polaris

[@kerryhall6456]

When are they gonna start releasing turbo renegades and scramblers…

[@JacksonOffroad25]

What kind of camera set up do you recommend for someone looking to start an atv channel?

[@kylebeach2316]

You can get away with a go pro setup

[@PeteHager]

I include my camera gear for every video in the description. I’m still running gopro hero7’s for helmet and bumper cam 👍

[@JacksonOffroad25]

@@PeteHager thanks I saw that shortly after I commented this 🤦 lol keep the great content coming hopefully one day we will meet on a trail somewhere. #savesportquads

[@xGR1MxREAPERx]

Sucks that the renegade was a 2016.. the newer ones with the electronic throttle and modes feels soo much faster and peppy. Also the XXC comes with the best shocks in the industry for adjustment, stock they are setup for 200-220lb rider it seems. Very stiff. When set for you it would ride same as yours nice and comfy and plush.

[@davidhernandez-lopez5139]

Lovin the vids! ❤️❤️

[@ProjectVengeance]

Pete just come to the dark side already. Can am power 🤘

[@PeteHager]

Lol they’re fun but the sport utilities are so heavy! I do really want to ride a new can am. It would be a hard choice 😅

[@realpatriot5896]

Do you think the Raptor is better on trails like that?

[@PeteHager]

Both the Scrambler and Renegade can handle Spider Lake just fine. I do have more fun on my Raptor though

[@225Savage]

Tire and wheel set up on the renegade please 🙏

[@Thudfr]

awesome video

[@davidfilip5664]

If you want better turn radius put it in 2x4 is has way better turn radius, in 4x4 or AWD it turns way worse

[@jasonflowers6159]

Where was thus ride at looks sweet

[@cclarkie1]

Spider lake

[@PeteHager]

Spider Lake OHV trails in northern Minnesota

[@brokejokeratv5851]

Please tell me you didn't buy a polaris other then the cool ranch

[@PeteHager]

Polaris loaned me the Scrambler as a demo unit 😬

[@brokejokeratv5851]

That's what i thought in one of your other videos but your way to high class for a polaris, yes they are fun and fast 😀 but they will leave you walking lol

[@brokejokeratv5851]

I'm actually thinking of getting the renegade xxc in the future, also I don't remeber if I told you but I went to a concert this year smashing pumpkins and had my pete hager raptor shirt and people loved it man

[@crown_3526]

what kind of miles do u get to a tank on the 1000s?

[@cclarkie1]

Depends on how you drive them. I usually get between 80-110 miles per tank 5.42 gallons

[@crown_3526]

@@cclarkie1 thats not too bad. Id be doing mostly slow trail rides

[@cclarkie1]

@@crown_3526 then you should get about 20 mpg with a 1000

[@jonathanlimborg9597]

That one way trail has been there for awhile I almost rolled a 4x4 or it

[@leedimatteo5078]

what size tires and spacers Chad?

[@cclarkie1]

27" reptile radials with 2" wheel spacers

[@leedimatteo5078]

@@cclarkie1 is it working out good?

[@cclarkie1]

Yes, I have 2 sets of 27" tires and 1 set of 26" tires and my factory 25" set. As far as the spacers I have never had a problem with them. I have had them on for about 3 years now.

[@brandonsenauit6908]

@@cclarkie1 I have a 2017 Renegade 100r xxc with 27x9 and 27x11 tusk terrabite tires I am curious have you changed the clutching for bigger heavier tires? Thanks

[@cclarkie1]

@brandonsenauit6908 nope, haven't done anything with the clutching on it. I actually like the bigger tires on it because the power is more usable and tires don't spin as easily

[@jaydenbourke3722]

So will Pete be buying a 1000?

[@PeteHager]

I can’t see myself owning on anytime soon. I have more sport ATV’s I’d like to try! I’m sure I’ll get one of these someday though 😊

[@jesse.jsmall0652]

They are more playable in 2wd in high

[@PeteHager]

We did the first 10 minutes in 2WD but 90% of the trail had an ice base so we spinning constantly. I do agree they’re more playful in 2 wheel for sure 👍

[@tamasbarna1749]

👍

[@mndoing]

What trail are you on?

[@PeteHager]

Spider Lake OHV trails near Pine Lake MN 👍

[@mndoing]

@@PeteHager I know that one. I am from big lake MN. That one is open year round?

[@SnowCamo45]

💯💯💯

[@handyandy2618]

What tires on the renny?

[@cclarkie1]

Reptile radials, I love them for snow and mud, best tire set I have for those conditions

[@leedimatteo5078]

FKN SIC!!!!

[@assetprotection5389]

So I’m in a debate i thought about buying a raptor 700 and dumping money into it for trail riding etc but this scrambler has me really interested so whats everyone’s thoughts raptor 700 or Polaris scrambler 1000s?? I need true opinions on this

[@TheBananaStrangler]

A 2019 isn’t an “old” quad per se. Having said that, if I pay close to 20K for a machine and something like a tie rod randomly fails due to fatigue, I’m gonna be very pissed. THATS why people who have Grizzly’s are so die hard about reliability. It’s just a shame you have to settle for 50% of the horsepower to get that reliability!

[@cclarkie1]

Mine is a 2016 and for a tie rod to be the only thing I have had to replace in the 7 years I have owned it I think that speaks alot about the quality of my can-am. I don't ride it like a granny on a Sunday drive either as you can tell by the videos on here lol, and I only paid $14,000 for it also

[@brandonsenauit6908]

grizzlys have there own issues I have had rear frame rust issues and piston and ring issues smoking and using oil, any machine has problems being said my renegade 1000r xxc is my favorite 4x4 but I have not rode a scrambler s like Petes, The suspension looks awesome!

[@Rondawwg]

Doesn’t look like fun at all 😊

[@nexxusty]

The problem with the Scrambler is you cant get much more out of that engine. Not even close to true with the Renegade.

[@iare19]

Steering rods are pretty weak on can ams. Luckily you can have cheap B level part that's better than OEM.

[@nicolec7290]

Polaris has hard suspension

[@PeteHager]

If anything it’s too soft on their traditional models. The Walker is Evan’s suspension on the Scrambler S is next level. One of the smoothest riding machines ever ever been on 👌

[@nicolec7290]

@@PeteHager ok ty. I will go look at one soon. Great video

[@thetoolmaker_]

V twin vs parralel twin.. big difference

[@T.J.Caldwell318]

Thats the thing with them Renegades, they always seem to break

[@cclarkie1]

The first thing that's gone wrong in the 6 years I've owned it. I think that pretty good considering how it's ridden