HOW TO GROW OYSTER MUSHROOMS ON PASTEURIZED FUEL PELLETS, Start to Finish with Bratislavian Blue

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Incubation and fruiting temps for this oyster grow ranged from 66 to 68 F. Pinning was initiated with a 24 hour cold shock at 40 F at full colonization.

[@Paulnmoore]

I’ve watched literally hundreds of hours of videos in the past few months! I have to tell you this is the most informative one I’ve come across. Cudo’s to you sir!! I’ve been off work on disability since April & needed a non-energetic hobby. Somehow I chose mycology!! I’ve got the basic ‘stuff’ & have purchased some KC & bags. Now I’m ready to begin but: was stuck….. You’ve undone my confusion & increased my confidence level! Ty I’ll be watching you for more tips & info!!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

This hobby will try your patience and the rabbit hole is DEEP, but you will also have a lot of fun. I hope your first grow goes well. I'm here if you have any questions 👊

[@MichaelWade-zi1vx]

Awesome sauce ne one that's just getting started. this guys videos are astaple to my cultivation repertoire.

[@WilliamBerasi]

You can also use a broadhead from a bow hunting arrow that has a cross (X) razor insert for cutting fruiting holes in the bags. just be sure to clean it again for each bag

[@librider430]

Nice! I've used your method for several batches or oyster, lions mane and shitake. I got green mold on a couple batches, but had also got my liquid culture from a different source, which made me wonder. Otherwise, this has worked well for me! Love the videos. Hoping to find Morels in the spring! Thanks for the great info you share!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Sounds good, a bit of contamination is all part of the learning curve but you should be able to all but eliminate it with time and experience. Remember, where the contam appears is a very important clue to what caused it. On top only usually means a bad seal or filter membrane contamination. Throughout the jar or bag usually means it rode in on your spawn, LC, or during innoculation/shaking.

[@librider430]

@@RenegadeMushrooms ahhh. Good to know. You've taught me something else.

[@vk081064]

@@RenegadeMushrooms that's a great tip bro I'll remember that thanks. New sub here

[@aaronsapp6470]

Another great video!! Appreciate you sharing your knowledge for us rookies. Keep the content coming!

[@TwistedTornsTirade]

Thank you for putting the work in! I'm new to the mushroom world and looking into trying to grow some mushrooms of my own, very interesting and not really sure where to start, so again Thank you! You've earned a new sub!!!!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Thanks 👍 We all have to start somewhere. KZbin is a valuable tool I wish I had when I was starting out. I try to keep it simple and focus on low-tech and effective techniques. I also love experimenting with crazy stuff people tell me will never work, and...sometimes it does.

[@glennplatvoet7111]

That's impressive I'm putting it in the remember bag thanks for that

[@drillsergeant9997]

You are very knowledgeable, and I learn something new from each of your videos. Thank you!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

You are too kind 🥰🥰

[@MichaelJVanecekWrites]

Try a little toasted sesame oil too. Delicious. I'll saute them then mix in some whipped eggs for some scrambled eggs and mushrooms. My favorite is shiitake for that.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Good tip 👍 I love toasted sesame oil. Just used it to make some dumpling sauce.

[@xinrongren6993]

Thanks for sharing the video! I will try this method and will significantly reduce the cost as have been using organic hard wood and soy hull pallets each is about $1/pound. I may still sterile the substance as I already have a pressure cooker.

[@FlomatonFamous]

Good demo, thanks for posting

[@bobboyett3142]

Awesome video, you have the gift of teaching. I'd like to ask, that little cluster you picked off - could you have let that grow and haverested inbetween 1st and second flush?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Thank you, that's nice of you to say 😁Those small clusters usually just abort and shrivel up, so I always just remove them and start clean for the next flush.

[@dbfarm8974]

Another great video! Just finished up a round of LC jars from your LC video this afternoon. Was also wondering if reusable large wide rubber bands might be another option for the "taping down" of the bag (just before the pinning stage)? Would imagine this same oyster technique could be used for Lion's mane as well? Thanks so much for the info, this is now my "one stop" research channel for everything :-) Keep up the great work!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Yes the rubber band would definitely work. That's funny I just saw your comment today and released a Lions Mane video 😁 Good timing! The core process actually works for most mushrooms, there are just subtle nuances to each species that greatly influence success. I'm always learning from others and from the mushrooms.

[@DesinforMares]

Very informative . Thank you .

[@Jkarlowski2]

Hello, hopefully you see this. How do you rehydrate these blocks? Do you dunk them? Is it not extremely messy and it seems like it can introduce contaminates. But I’m not sure spraying will hydrate the block enough. Thank you. It will be for blue oyster, king oyster, and brown beech.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

If you hydrate them properly in the beginning using the process I show in the video, there is no need to rehydrate them. I just leave them in high humidity with no added moisture and they will produce 3 to 4 flushes no problem. Oysters don't need a soak.

[@Jkarlowski2]

@@RenegadeMushrooms wow thanks for the reply.

[@IanWilson-pv7jn]

Thanks for your very helpful videos. Always so informative and enjoyable to watch. I am using this technique now to grow oyster and lions mane. Have you tried growing shiitake this way?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Yes, it works great for Shiitake. I'm actually planning on making a Shiitake video this winter once I get some other projects wrapped up.

[@IanWilson-pv7jn]

That’s great. Thanks. Looking forward to that video and the others you have in the pipeline. @@RenegadeMushrooms

[@citylotgardening6171]

Great video friend thanks for sharing 👍

[@jamesodonnell8368]

Hi Renegade! Using your techniques and doing great! I found some hickory hardwood pellets on sale locally. What do you think of these as a substrate?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I would think it would work OK. I have a maple/hickory/cherry blend that works well. Never tried straight hickory, but I wouldn't hesitate to give it a shot. Thanks for watching, glad the videos are helping you out 👊

[@theruralgardener123]

Thanks for the video! I'm waiting to see how the Cordycep bins I started this past Friday [3/24/23 - with your video instructional} I combined your technique with William Padilla Brown's recipe and instead of a bin wrapped with a towel, I used a black bin. I have provided air exchange ports and look forward to this week's discovery! Strong LC syringes from Ryan Paul Gates. Fingers crossed! I have way too many issues with contamination EVEN while using a autoclave. Looking forward to trying your pasteurization tech. I am not familiar with Brat Blue...is it a LC you sell?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

99% of Cordyceps growing is genetics, so you're off to a good start with Ryan's cultures. As long as you can dodge contams on your rice you should be rockin. Lenny at Mycelium Emporium has the Brat Blue strain in LC syringe.

[@GeneHrsy]

How do you sponsor the subsequent flushes?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

With oysters, you don't need to do much. Just keep them in a humid environment so your your fruiting sites don't dry out and they will pin for you again in a week or so.

[@jamesodonnell8368]

Oh yeah, and the best temp for fruiting the blue oysters? Also can one use a store bought room hepa filter instead of a laminer filter? Thanks

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Around 60 F is great for fruiting blues. If you want to make a real flowhood you really need to invest in a quality hepa filter. Check out the Bonsai filters at Midwest Grow Kits, they are pretty affordable.

[@Luke-ww9vh]

If my bag has a small leak I found just putting micro pore tape folded over the whole top is another easy option

[@micaro84]

Do you have a video about your humidity chamber setup, things used etc?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3-mZqKBqtWtbac

[@micaro84]

@@RenegadeMushrooms Thank you!!

[@garyburch3033]

Like your videos /in a battle with green mold using peroxide and alcohol mixed. Still keeps coming back any hints??

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Is the mold on your substrate while using this pasteurized HWFP method, or are you using a different method? Also let me know please, where is the mold appearing on the block, all over, just the top, etc. Need a lot of details to determine where the contam is coming from.

[@samgodfrey8141]

How should I Prepare the fruiting blocks for second flush of Blue Oyster? Just harvest my first crop of mushrooms and would like to know what I have to do to get ready for second flush. Thanks

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Nothing, just leave them in humid fruiting conditions and they will flush again in a week or so usually from when you picked the first flush.

[@MosesMLam]

Another awesome vid. I love the commentary with all the tips added in! Question - With your awesome pasteurization tek, do you think it will work in a monotub? Ie mix and pasteurize the hardwood supplemented pellets in the tub, then proceed from there? Or too risky for contams? (or not worth going the monotub route?) Also, any newbie tips on the incubation process? Ie. any specific conditions needed? Or just throw on a shelf? I've watched quite a few of your vids (they are the best imo) but I don't recall you showing your incubation shelves! thnx!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

You could do the process in a monotub, but monotubs don't work great for most gourmets. Bags or plastic containers work far better imo. Any kind of shelving will work for incubation, but I prefer wire shelving. Just make sure your bags aren't touching to prevent contamination from heat build-up. Normal room temp, 65 F to 70 F is great for incubation. Thank you for the kind words, glad you enjoy the videos 👍

[@MosesMLam]

@@RenegadeMushrooms Thanks for the quick reply! Advice taken - I'll do the bags as you suggest and skip the monotub option. As a newer grower, what I love about your channel is that you have tried all the options and you narrow it down to what works best and make it so easy to follow. There are so many overwhelming options out there it gets really confusing! I've so far been using your grain 101 with wheat and it's doing awesome. I've done the sterile hardwood but am about to try your pasteurized method. Really appreciate your time putting these together AND answering questions!

[@jamesodonnell8368]

I liked this video very much! My question is can I use oyster sawdust spawn instead of the grain spawn?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Yes, it will work but your yields won't be as high. Grain is more packed with nutrients which boosts yields, that why it's preferred.

[@jamesodonnell8368]

@@RenegadeMushrooms Thank you boss! Can I add a supplement with the sawdust spawn to increase the yield? Thanks Jim

[@jamesodonnell8368]

Hi Renegade What is the best temperature for blue oyster colonization.?I’m at 61 F now

[@ShotgunLlama]

Can this be done in containers other than disposable plastic bags? Can you use these pellets in a bucket, or is that too big for something this dense?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

You can use almost any clean plastic container. I show some other reusable options in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6K1fHebhb6oaNE

[@DrtERotinBasstrd]

Do you ever cold pasteurize with hydrated lime?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

No, I've always used hot water pasteurization.

[@brianbarton477]

Have you tried this Pasteurization method using Masters Mix. Also where do you buy your Oyster and Lions Mane cultures from.? Awesome video as always. I'm heading to Lake Oneida Walleye fishing end of Feb, Wonder if I could visit your operation. Thanks Again.!!!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I haven't tried it with Master's Mix, but I heard it doesn't work because the soy hulls are too nutrient rich. I get cultures from lots of different sources, but in terms of my last two videos, you can get the Brat Blue from Lenny at Mycelium Emporium, and the Hericium americanum is from Everything Mushrooms. As far as my operation goes, you've already seen it lol. It's basically just me growing in my basement and wandering the woods. I used to have a farm setup, sell to restaurants, etc. but I scaled all that back for now, probably until I retire from my day job anyway. Lately I've been focusing on the KZbin channel mostly and just selling a little here and there. Some Oneida Lake fishing sounds awesome though, plenty of ice everywhere over here right now.

[@jaybirdwolfe277]

hey bud, thanks for all the great videos they've helped me a lot! Question: have you ever tried doing the oysters without pasteurizing, ive read the fuel pellets go through a high heat extrusion process thats what makes them stick together? meaning just add the water to hydrate and go for it?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Fuel pellets do go through a high heat extrusion process. But, this only renders them what I would call "relatively clean". They are far from sterile. That being said, yeah, you could probably just use cold water and go for it and pull it off with an oyster strain with minimal contamination as long as you spawn heavily. I prefer the hot water pasteurization process for two reasons. First, the heat and steam perfectly hydrate the fuel pellets, much more evenly than cold water. Also, the pasteurization process allows me to make these bags with zero contamination for a minimal time investment. I would say try it and see how it goes for you, but if you experience any contamination, skipping the hot water isn't worth it.

[@jaybirdwolfe277]

@@RenegadeMushrooms ok, thanks bud I'll try both and see i appreciate everything !!

[@miked7146]

So I have my first ever flush going on now with 2 blocks of Blue Oysters. The first block got a little leggy so I increased air exchange and that definitely helped on the 2nd one but on both blocks the center mushrooms caps were semi closed (upwards) kinda looked like coral growing. I harvested the first ones and got a great harvest but what causes that issue? Do you know if this is related to humidity or light or what?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

It's likely fresh air exchange if they are long and leggy. If they're dry, they will turn brown on the edges and crack. Light is typically not an issue, they need light, but not a lot. It sounds like you still got a nice yield for your first grow. Just keep working with them, you will get it dialed in.

[@azulmediapro]

Quick question, I was told that you don’t have to pasteurize or sanitize straw pellets is that true? How come you don’t use straw pellets?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Hardwood fuel pellets are readily available and cheap in my area. They work great for growing mushrooms so I've always gone with them. Straw pellets are a little tougher to find, so I haven't played with them yet.

[@akiamini4006]

Bro how would you let the oxygen get in the bag around the weeks that you inaculate it ? Is there some kind of airfilter off the side of the plastic bag or somethin ?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Yes the bags have a .2 micron filter patch specially designed for mushroom growing. They are model 3T grow bags from Unicorn Bags.

[@akiamini4006]

@@RenegadeMushrooms oh thanks ! Gotta get that good stuff !

[@Idontknow-jj5qf]

You put a whole jar of grain spawn? Is that necessary or does it just speed up colonization? Also why not pour in your water then just fold over the bag instead of sealing and unsealing to inoculate then to re seal. Lastly, What’s your success rate would you say with pasturing instead of sterilizing?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Its favorable to spawn heavy with pasteurized substrate for two reasons: boost the nitrogen content of your block/improve yields, and out-race contams. Note that I have videos showing that you can supplement with wheat bran up to 10% and still pasteurize as long as you have a fast strain. Folding the bags would probably be fine, but I prefer to hermetically seal, not much more effort. With this method, and up to 5% wheat bran, my success rates are 100%

[@poppyjones1892]

How much water are you adding ? How many ml ? I cant tell from you pointing to a black line on pitcher 😮

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Added the recipe by weight to the video description. Thought it was there already. Not sure what happened.

[@austin2842]

Thanks for this tutorial. Could I mix hard and softwood pellets for oysters instead of using the aspen shavings? The pellets are cheap at about $7 for 40 lbs in my area, so strong incentive to use those instead of the shavings.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Just go straight hardwood fuel pellets. Skip the aspen shavings, they are optional. Softwood pellets aren't recommended for most oyster species, although P. pulmonaris will grow on them.

[@daveeatmon4718]

Hey Renegade, what is the average time from pinning to harvest with the Brat Blue Oysters? And currently my fruiting temp is around 63, is this to cold?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

No, that should be perfect. I would say about 5 to 7 days from pinning to harvest for me.

[@adamlightfoot5897]

Can I grow on uncle Ben's rice then transfer to wood pellets or straw?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Uncle Ben's works and it's cool, but it's mostly just a fun experiment/gimmick. If you're going to get serious about growing mushrooms, even at the hobby level, it will behoove you to learn how to make real grain spawn now instead of messing with Uncle Ben's. I have a video if you're interested in learning more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4iun4eBh9ymi5o

[@daveeatmon4718]

Hey Renegade, a couple quick questions for ya. What other mushrooms would benefit from adding the Aspen shavings to the HWFP’s? And could you add some wheat bran to this mix for some added nutrients? Thank you for your time and keep up the awesome work!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

You can mix it in with any wood lover like oyster, shiitake, lions mane, etc. You could add up to 5% wheat bran and still get away with pasteurization, but I always recommend going without it first to make sure you can nail the TEK, then try the supplements on your next run.

[@daveeatmon4718]

@@RenegadeMushrooms thanks for the tip! I just expanded some Blue Brat Oysters, Lions Mane and some Miatake! Waiting for full colonization.

[@amberpassamonte4483]

How long do you think pasteurized bags of substrate can sit before you inoculate?... Can I get these ready weeks before or should I wait till closer to time that I'm going to add the mycelium

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I've personally never waited more than a day or two. I definitely wouldn't do it weeks ahead of time. Generally with pasteurization, you want to inoculate the substrate as soon as it is cool and at field capacity, but I've left the bags for a day or two with no issue.

[@oneseedoneworld]

I just got grain spawn for blue oyster and lions mane and have more to be delivered in a couple of weeks. I was going to do mine in buckets, but this method seems like it might be less prone to contamination. Have you used the bucket method and what could be the drawbacks? Also do you sell your mushrooms, or just eat them yourself? (I'm hoping to be able to sell mine at my produce stand). Thanks for a great video! I subscribed!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I do sell some mushrooms, but I use and eat alot myself as well. I've only done straw in buckets, never sawdust. Some people do well with pasteurized sawdust in buckets but others struggle with contamination. I know that my in-bag pasteurization method is far less prone to contamination. Thanks for watching 👍

[@oneseedoneworld]

@@RenegadeMushrooms sorry one more question, where did you get your bags and bag sealer? Are there ones you recommend for starting out?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@oneseedoneworld My sealer is similar to this one: JORESTECH 12"/300mm Manual Impulse Bag Sealer with 5mm Seal Heavy Duty Housing and Copper Transformer with Repair Kit 110 Volt (MMS-305) www.amazon.com/dp/B00A7FUP08/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_i_57YJR8YPWY2S928PC87H You want to make sure you get at least the 12 inch model. I order my bags in bulk straight from Unicorn Bags. I use bag model 3T for about everything.

[@dangoesfast]

Hey mate thanks again for the great vids! Do you have an opinion on Aspen shavings vs. Pine shavings? Do you specifically use Aspen, or is any softwood shaving cool? I'm paying $35 for 1.7kg of Aspen ($2.05 per 100g) but I've found a different brand of animal bedding at $19 for 6kg ($0.31 per 100g)... seems Pine is waaaay cheaper where I am. Any reason I can't use it?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Dang, that is pricey. Oysters prefer softer deciduous trees like aspen. Most oyster species don't like the conifer species like pine. They will grow on it, just not as well and your yields will be lower. I've heard there are some P. pulmonaris strains that do well on pine but I haven't tried it myself. If you can get hardwood fuel pellets, you might be better off going straight hardwood fuel pellets and skipping the shavings entirely.

[@dangoesfast]

@@RenegadeMushrooms bummer, I noticed in your vid you say "soft hardwood" not "softwood" so I'm glad I asked. All good, I'm sure I can find cheaper aspen if I look harder and I'll test straight hardwood as well. Thanks!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@dangoesfast Any kind of hardwood pellets should work well. I'm currently using mostly oak BBQ pellets for oysters and they work great. Just best to avoid conifers if at all possible.

[@nated4949]

Great video. Do all oysters like a cold shock? I’m growing goldens and pinks. I’ve debated on trying this.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

No, I wouldn't do it for any tropical species like goldens or pinks. It is very effective on the colder weather ostreatus strains and the like.

[@nated4949]

@@RenegadeMushrooms OK thanks so much. Hey listen, I really appreciate the videos you’ve made they’ve been really helpful to me!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@nated4949 Thank you, that means a lot to me. Keep up the good work 👍

[@nated4949]

I have another question for you. without the cold shock How many days does it typically take for it to start pinning once you cut the slits?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

It depends on a lot on the aggressiveness of the ostreatus strain, they vary greatly. Some of the "blue" strains are crazy aggressive and will pin within a few days without a cold shock. This brat blue is very similar to grey dove. They both pin slowly without a cold shock. I would say about a week with the cold shock, and two weeks without. Not all ostreatus strains like a cold shock either, I only use it to speed things up with the cold loving strains.

[@nated4949]

@@RenegadeMushrooms thanks for your reply! I want to try some of the blue species. I’m growing golden oysters. Do they like a cold shock? I’m also growing pinks but I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t tolerate it since they are a warmer weather species.

[@user-xb1ht4py2v]

best trick i have found so far was to use a cross blade arrow head to make those "X" cuts.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I show that trick as well in some of my other videos. I used it all the time when I used to do straw columns especially 👊

[@daveeatmon4718]

Hey Renegade great video as always, one quick question. How long can you let the sealed pasteurized hwfp sit before adding any grain spawn?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I never let it sit more than overnight, almost always spawn it as soon as it cools same day. If you need to store it overnight I would put it in the fridge.

[@daveeatmon4718]

@@RenegadeMushrooms thanks for the fast reply, your up late! That’s pretty much what I figured. This Thursday I will get my order of lions mane and blue brat oysters for Mycelium Emporium, so excited! Thanks for everything you do, you truly are an ambassador in the mushroom community!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@daveeatmon4718 I was out fishing for king salmon on the pier (video for my other YT channel 😁) It was a great night, landed four of them. Good luck on your grow, those strains you bought should be great. Let me know how it goes.

[@daveeatmon4718]

That’s awesome! I have yet to do any salmon fishing. I mostly fish for walleye and some smallmouth bass. Can you tell me the name of your other channel so I can check it out?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@daveeatmon4718 Sure 👍 www.youtube.com/@MudSharkZ

[@jamesodonnell8368]

Hi Renegade What is the best temp for colonizing blue oyster? My basement is at 61 F now

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

That's a bit chilly but they will colonize fine, just takes a little longer. 65 to 70 is better.

[@jamesodonnell8368]

@@RenegadeMushroomsthank you!

[@MicroBugs]

What is your water proportion by weight?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

2 lbs. dry hardwood fuel pellets, 2 lbs. 13 oz. water at or near boiling for pasteurization.

[@sitealive]

How big are the bags that you use?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Model 3T bags from Unicorn Bags.

[@scottstevens7569]

Nice grow. So how do you prep for the 2nd flush?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Simply put them back in the humidity chamber, nothing else needed. These blocks are loaded with new pins in my chamber already.

[@scottstevens7569]

@@RenegadeMushrooms So, there's NO soaking, scraping, dunking or spanking? No taping over the old holes and cutting new ones? No resting in higher temps and re-colonizing the block? Is this just because it's an oyster strains or just this one performs like this?😊

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@scottstevens7569 Most oyster strains will just keep rolling after the first flush until they're exhausted. Sometimes you'll get heavy clusters that are trapped under the plastic of your grow bag, but you just have to cut the plastic away to set them free.

[@MrGrumpyFunny]

What size bag and filter you using?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Model 3T bags right from Unicorn Bags.

[@leftmusic7432]

Hey man you don’t need to pasteurise pellets, generally the manufacturing process does it enough. Pretty cool.

[@robertnovosad6979]

Hi. I offer a recipe for the easiest way to grow oyster mushrooms. We need 1.5 kg of straw pellets, 2.5 liters of water, 0.5 kg of mushroom grain seeds. The water can be cold, nothing needs to be pasteurized or sterilized.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Cool, maybe I will try your recipe in a video at some point. Nice work 👍

[@robertnovosad6979]

I tried it now, for the first harvest of 1.4 kg of oyster mushrooms. The current growth temperature is 11-12 degrees Celsius. And the straw pellets must be clean, they cannot contain odor absorbers. If you are interested, I would also send some photos of cultivated mushrooms, but to which email? Greetings from Slovakia.

[@andrealfiansah9432]

If the bag fully sealed how miselium can breath

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

There is a filter patch in the bag that allows it to breathe without allowing contaminants in. The filter patch allows air exchange until you are ready to fruit your mushrooms.

[@BoroBootBoy]

So what ratio of spawn/substrate was that? 1lb spawn to 2lb substrate? Seems excessive? I must try the pasteurisation method soon, but i use hardwood briquettes, and they expand so much that they would burst the bags!

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I use 1 lb. of grain spawn typically per 6 lb. finished block. That is a very high ratio obviously, but the extra grain boosts the nitrogen content of your block and boosts your yields. This is important because you can't supplement too much with pasteurization. I'm working on some new methods that I think could change that though, stay tuned 👍

[@BoroBootBoy]

​ @Ghost Pipe Mushrooms Thanks for the reply. I never considered the Nitrogen. Look forward to your new methods, as i am always trying new things. Will let you know about my experiments if they ever bear fruit (pun intended).

[@ryanstibal2938]

Great video. I like your idea of letting the block colonize and then taping it down and cutting slits when it's ready to fruit. I will be trying that.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@ryanstibal2938 It works well, just make sure you tape it down as tight as you can, really try to eliminate any free air space there. Thanks for watching 👍

[@robotworm178]

have you tried this method with king oysters?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Good timing! King oyster video about to drop 😁 Yes, it works well.

[@ryanstibal2938]

Where did you get your spawn for that variety?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I believe I got mine from Asheville Fungi, but I'm pretty sure Mycelium Emporium carries that strain as well in LC.

[@danielalt7508]

Why do you have to cut a hole to the bag to let air out? Isn't the filter on the bag just for the reason so air can change with CO2? If not, does it mean you actually don't need to pay much more just to get the filter, when it actually isn't even doing anything?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

You leave them sealed during incubation and let the filter patch do it's work. You only cut the bag when incubation is complete and you're ready to fruit your mushrooms. At that point, I cut the top corners off to purge the air and tape the bag back tightly on to itself like I show in the video. Then cut X-slits to create areas for the mushrooms to emerge.

[@danielalt7508]

@@RenegadeMushrooms but if air can move through the filter, isn't it just possible to press at the bag, without poking a hole, to remove the air? Or does the filter make a lot of resistance if the bag is just pressed at?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@danielalt7508 You nailed it, the filter is such a tight weave with the 3T bags I'm using, it makes a lot of resistance.

[@danielalt7508]

@@RenegadeMushrooms Ooh, alright, thank you.

[@DrGaryGreen]

Okay... this aint straight Master's Mix. That's what I searched. I respect everything you do so I'm going to have to do this but today it's going to be vanilla Master's Mix. Gonna try this next month. Thanks for everything.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

Masters mix is great stuff for oysters, I'm actually doing some experiments with it right now that I think will be interesting, so stay tuned 👍

[@EDsavant]

Can't you use soy pellets instead of aspen? What are advantages.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I've never tried soy pellets with pasteurization, typically they are mixed with sawdust and sterilized. Aspen shavings are a nice additive to sawdust. They give your mycelium something a little bigger to chew on, and can still be pasteurized.

[@EDsavant]

@@RenegadeMushrooms I see so one I would need a pressure cooker for and with the aspen I can just pasteurize like I did with my lions mane

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@EDsavant Yes

[@EDsavant]

@@RenegadeMushrooms do you use bran on blue oyster and if so how much and when you use the for lions mane how much

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

@@EDsavant 5% by dry weight bran plus 1 lb. of grain spawn per block.

[@goXsnoopy]

are the aspen shavings necessary?

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

No, they are not necessary, just fuel pellets will work fine. They do add some more structure to the block and boost your yields a little.

[@butodbokog2216]

whats the size of fruiting bag

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I'm using the 3T bags from Unicorn bags.

[@OwnYourOwnLifeStyle]

Hello I was wondering if you looking to do mentorship for students how to grow mushrooms. If you ever consider to I would like to take your course. I will to pay. Thank You.

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

I would love to, but I'm just too busy right now to have time to do it. That's why I am making videos though, to help people learn to be successful growing mushrooms at home without a ton of expense or fancy equipment. I'm always here if you have any questions.

[@jeffbradfield4413]

Could you put a link where you get your bags and spawn

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

If you want to buy spawn, check out Field & Forest Products or North Spore. If you want to make your own spawn with liquid culture, check out Mycelium Emporium. The grow bags are from Unicorn Bags, they are model 3T I believe.

[@womancandyxxx8556]

my golden oyster shrooms turned black before they even were near ready to harvest....sos lol

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

That's likely a mold contaminant. I actually saw someone post a picture of this exact thing on one of the Facebook Groups last night. Post a pic on the "cultivating contamination" group and someone should be able to ID it for you.

[@kartalbaba981]

👏👏👏👍

[@NikolaNikola69]

🤝🤝👍👍

[@nicmic6138]

Add 1 standardized officially calibrated...red solo cup of shavings.....ded😂😂😂😂

[@RenegadeMushrooms]

🥤 = 🏆