Renegades React to...

[@TheWunWhiteWolf]

16 times the refunds.

[@eggguy20]

16 times the bugs

[@MeatyCandy]

ALL OF IT JUST WORKS!!!

[@aundersave]

“It Just Works” *Time Erased*

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

@@MeatyCandy It just works (music plays with todd singing)

[@HunhowsShadowStalker]

@@thecrimsondragon2379 Little lies, stunning shows. People buy, money flows.

[@undyne6280]

And now the helmets are being recalled for mold.

[@electrowizard3209]

Bruh

[@mizcaesar1804]

Bruh

[@DarkLord3709]

Granted it wasnt their fault for the mold and was only found inside the nuka cola theme helmet

[@ZION73082]

I'm expecting to hear how anybody who drank the cheap rum now has stomach cancer...* - *

[@mrroboshadow]

@@DarkLord3709 yeah they didnt make it directly but if you hire someone to mass produce something going out to people who already arent pleased with you....wouldnt you want to keep an eye on that quality control?

[@Geralt_harvey3784]

33:29 - pauses video. opens mouth to speak. short pause. closes mouth. unpauses the video. A perfect description of just how enlightening this video is XD

[@HenSt-gz7qj]

and how speechless many fans was because of Bethesda.

[@scottbruckner4653]

They could have had glass bottles. It would have been shit rum, but at least we would have had the cool bottle.

[@apieceoftapeva2558]

"One of those, but bigger. And browner. Is that so hard?" I'm 99% sure he was about to make a dick joke.

[@rabbittherabbit]

Fallout 76 makes sonic 06 look like a finished product

[@emeryshurpit8656]

We dont speak of that anymore. Quiet before you scare the young ones.

[@kevinkocher9347]

@@emeryshurpit8656 hahaha

[@ItsAnH]

@@emeryshurpit8656 Speak of what? Fallout 76 or Sonic '06?

[@lukebytes5366]

JawKiller yes

[@cleverpsyche115]

At least Sonic 06 didn't come with microtransactions and other pay to win bullshit.

[@kiwitrails1304]

Do you remember when Fallout 3 had over 200 endings? Well neither did the developers

[@The_Fluffy_One]

Since when did Fallout 3 have more than one ending that actually mattered?

[@ExecutiveSonda]

Fallout 3 had only one ending. XD

[@kiwitrails1304]

Executive Sonda In an interview Todd says they had over 200 endings for the game. Did it happen obviously not now you get the point of the comment ^^

[@ExecutiveSonda]

@@kiwitrails1304 Oh god, I had forgotten that.

[@_-fieronk_-3702]

@@ainsley8149 fuck the legion

[@MegaPlayerXxX]

Bethesda really screwed up on this one. I work for a company that makes computing technology. I will not say the name as to not advertise it, but we are one of the biggest out there. I work in Europe and I was in contact with some of my colleagues in US. They said that Bethesda workers, who had to upgrade their hardware to even run this shit, my guess is they worked in that studio, said themselves not to order it. They warned us, privately, not to order Fallout 76. They knew it was ultra rushed, non-playable bull-shit and they were not proud of their work. One colleague showed me the conversation they had with them. Of course it began professionally, but as I read further, I realized more and more that these guys hated their jobs. They were forced to work overtime and they knew game was not ready and will be a huge blow for Bethesda. I recently talked to my USA colleagues again and they talked to those Bethesda guys again. My colleague actually said "I cannot tell it to you, you need to see this yourself." He sent me whole conversation with the Bethesda. I was in shock. They felt miserable, they were ashamed to even be associated with Bethesda and were actually searching for a new job. From what I know, at least one should become one of our USA team, and at least 2 more are going to go to Ubisoft.

[@tobyharrison4702]

Well I hope those people are now doing what they want to do, instead of going on with Bethesda’s bull.

[@Mr_Original]

Figures. There had to be some people under that company with remorse over that fiasco. Hoping those guys are doing better for themselves now.

[@rararasputin8608]

This aged poorly for Bethesda, and now Microsoft is their owner.

[@draconicreconcile]

So.. how are they doing now?

[@GokuBlackRose978]

@@draconicreconcile ...

[@TKDragon75]

Releasing with a discount isn't illegal. It's faking a discount that's illegal. Like saying it's discounted to draw in customers but to never un-discount it.

[@ThelagKingStrikes]

For anyone curious the laws are in Federal regulations Title 16(commercial Practices), Chapter 1(FTC), Subchapter B(Guides and Trade practice rules), Part 233( Guides against deceptive pricing), §233.1 (Former price comparisons)

[@cazer969]

The anger being expressed here is scary. It's completely justified, from Nic hating how Epic screwed him to Nate and the RedBubble fake reviews, but it is scary to see how much anger is present and also just how ridiculous these big companies can be.

[@Dr.Oofers]

Cazer 96 Epic, as in epic games? I didn’t hear anything about Epic screwing over them, maybe I missed it. But I wonder what Epic did.

[@sirkana]

@@Dr.Oofers Didn't give a refund when they promised everyone a refund. It was in the beginning.

[@Dr.Oofers]

Veetu Heiskanen oh. Thanks for explaining, must’ve missed it.

[@ShadiC636]

“They insist upon themselves.”

[@probablysomeguy4806]

It’s mostly because people can tell they don’t really care. Even after all that crap they’re still charging people arm and a leg for crap in the atom shop.

[@Rancorous_Ryan]

Always game for more Internet Historian!

[@kaylaodea619]

God When Nate went off about the fake review I felt that. The first time we tried to sell our standard red poodle puppies online we immediately started getting multiple reviews about how we were puppy farmers and that we treated the dogs horribly even though the add for the puppies had been up for 1 hour so we had to take it down and sell the pupps locally instead. It just goes to show that their are some real pathetic fucking people out there.

[@randomcenturion7264]

Man Fuck those people.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

Yes some people have fun making others miserable.

[@benjifoxtheshy4130]

The sad part is, all of that could've been prevented if Bethesda would've just temporarily brought in the original team, made a HUUUUGE patch fixing all the bugs, and gave everyone their bags... The real bags. It wouldn't hurt if your game was already getting ginormous amounts of backlash anyway. Plus it would show that they cared for the fans. Hell, even No Man's Sky apologized better than that xD

[@umphreak9999]

It could've been prevented if they gave it another 6+ months of development and actually fixed the hard baked bugs in their engine

[@Yes-kb5yv]

@@umphreak9999 Or even just updating their fookin engine is good enough man, not make a new one, just update it at least.

[@Aniyah-CHG]

No Man's Sky is actually a pretty decent game now.

[@loucouture4402]

I mean the game also has major design flaws. Fix all the bugs, and it still would've been a boring, mediocre game

[@MaskedKittyYT]

BenjiFox TheShy and even after everybody dragged no mans sky through the mud and gave them death threats they still worked on the game until it was what they wanted, literally, even no mans sky was able to pull it off better then bethesda currently.

[@MatthewCobalt]

Yes! Finally! The Internet Historian has been one of the most creatively funny video makers ever created. I honestly think he deserves more attention than he already does (positive attention, of course). Hope these continue to the rest of his videos.

[@Lenny-ue8hk]

Todd literally said in an interview that they knew it wasn’t ready for launch but he doesn’t care because it’s not what they game is at launch, it’s what it becomes after the first few years

[@battlion507]

Sounds like the bizarro world equivalent to Shigeru Miyamoto's quote: “A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.”

[@DudeDudeman777]

@@battlion507 A rushed game. A rushed game is forever bad. Sorry for being a grammar nazi

[@DariusFrench6273]

The balls on that guy

[@dante_0962]

Imagine that logic with a cake.

[@greenpiersystem]

So his entire logic is basically the exact thing the lawsuit was accusing them of doing, with releasing unfinished garbage and then slowly fixing it at the hostage cost to buy the title into a playable state... That's the one, officer. Over there. 😅 -🖊️/🫱🏿‍🫲🏻

[@ElhajMahmoud]

“I bought a lifetime supply of toilet paper” Internet historian calls that a gamer move 😂

[@annafirnen4815]

For a good laugh I recommend anyone to watch "Todd Howard E3 2019 Song - It Just Works (BETHESDA Parody)" by The Chalkeaters . It's just GOLD.

[@generictimestamperstupendi9021]

Yes

[@theirishviking9278]

Well todd isn't wrong the game just works Meaning the thing is a ballache but you can technically play it

[@boxatron8010]

@@theirishviking9278 Yeah but something working and something being good are different like you "could" kill half of the world's human population to solve most problems that works but then you have the blood of multiple people on your hand and the unknown aftermath of how people will react, what if people are in a plain and the pilot just dies, and how much of the population left alive can still live sooo grain of salt.

[@theirishviking9278]

@@boxatron8010 never said it was good just that it works

[@Mattsothelioma]

I love how despite all the problems they had with the dev room. It never occurred to them to GET RID OF THE ROOM ENTIRELY.

[@ALJ9000]

Isn’t it required for the game to run properly?

[@Mattsothelioma]

@@ALJ9000 it was needed to test things I believe… but maybe. Just maybe, before release… *empty the room out*!

[@Arashi257]

Or if they don't wanna get rid of it, detach the whole room and put it on the farthest corner of the entire space of the game.

[@Mattsothelioma]

@@Arashi257 well clearly people were doing *some kind of shinanigins* to get in there in the first place…

[@Arashi257]

@@Mattsothelioma Has no one ever spoken out about how they got in there?

[@Rapidkirby3k]

33:20 "Is that so hard?" "...apparently." That actually gave me a great laugh.

[@DarthUchiha91]

Why is the rum always gone? -Jack Sparrow

[@elevate07]

It's not gone. It's just trapped inside the plastic shell

[@Excalibur-Sonic]

"I spilled it trying to pour it" XD

[@BigHailFan]

You guys got the last laugh on that reaction to their E3 last year. XD

[@generictimestamperstupendi9021]

what happened back then?

[@BigHailFan]

they say in the video :P

[@mordredvonumbra154]

Rengades expressed doubt over fact that game will work and will be playable. I am not certain on what ground but they did. Comment section was full of comments shittin on them for doubting that this game will launch unhinged and well, this is their last laugh.

[@nanoex2245]

Oh how the tables have turned lol

[@dustindubbo2892]

To be fair at that time Bethesda was seen as a good company that was trustworthy and had a very good relationship with its players. Then somereason thy took a full 180 said “Wait let’s copy EA.... but be even worse than them in the span of a year.”

[@BigHailFan]

You can tell Nate is enjoying this video just a little bit. XD

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Would you if you did a live reaction and everyone was shit talking you? I mean I'll bet there's comments on that reaction saying stuff like "well whos the idiot now" or "what a surprise they were right to have doubt"

[@EmberQuill]

Schadenfreude is always fun.

[@TheLastHylianTitan]

He deserves to bask in satisfaction. He was right all along.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@TheLastHylianTitan Not just him but everyone that was there during that live reaction, I do wish the whole group was there so they all could give their thoughts on the video as well as 76 itself but I can understand that life gets in the way.

[@generictimestamperstupendi9021]

9:45 id say so

[@rarinrecruit3150]

“Keep you’re expectations low, and you’ll never be disappointed in your life “ I’m so glad I kept myself contempt with FO4, 3, and Vegas.

[@cookiesnugglez7318]

Yeah 4 is the only fallout game I need right now, i just fuck around

[@cookiesnugglez7318]

Especially with the mods

[@scouttrooper7804]

Fallout 4 did amazing on launch, New Vegas was a hit success on behaf of bethesda, and then you have this failed abortion

[@cookiesnugglez7318]

@@scouttrooper7804 yeah, then they did fallout 1st further making me hate fallout 76

[@couragew6260]

That was probably the best lesson I got out of reading the Ranger’s apprentice series. Just inwardly assume the worst and you’ll never be disappointed

[@thegrimknight9766]

"Never have I seen such a level of incompetence from game developers as this" the perfect quote for Bethesda.

[@GreenWolf2k]

Yes thank y'all for seeing this. Internet History is one if the best content creators I've seen in a long time.

[@otobot45]

Reaction starts at 5:32

[@hakairyu1]

Thanks Caleb!

[@ubergeneral3652]

Thank you sir

[@sonofjack6286]

Thanks Caleb.

[@tablet2hirtenpfad825]

Thanks my man

[@Nimbus_The_Slut]

Thanks Caleb O

[@alexcorvuscazador5596]

This makes me apprecite New Vegas even more

[@festusxiii5724]

Generic nigga straight white male picture especially with the small time they had to develop the game.

[@pspublic13]

Obisidian has its own share of bugs but they are actually a responsive company with immense creative talent. Bethesda doesn't give a damn about any aspect of their games.

[@chinesecovidanalswabs4752]

@@festusxiii5724 To think they refused to pay them. Pieces of shit!

[@asdergold1]

@@pspublic13 shame most of the good ones left Obsidian.

[@waragon4737]

One of the games where you could kill everyone

[@passingrando6457]

31:14 friendly reminder that there is a difference between capitalism and corporatism. Hard to enforce a lack of corporatism since America made it illegal to form torch and pitchfork wielding mobs outside of shitty businesses, though. Maybe we should bring that back.

[@generalkenobi5173]

Am already grabbing my pitch fork just say the time and place an i will be there with a bottle of gasoline and a bald eagle on my shoulder.

[@Treegonaut]

Agreed

[@ecyor0]

The only way you can prevent capitalism turning into corporatism is with government regulation, and as we all know, any form of government regulation is SOSHALISUM, so no, there isn't. Or to put it another way: I'll concede that corporatism and capitalism are different if you concede that socialism can and does work, and indeed has worked in every 1st world country, including the US back in the mid-20th century.

[@unknowndane4754]

@@ecyor0 Yeah, people who dislike government intervention/regulation hopes that out of self preservation companies would self regulate, but for the gaming companies it's clear that they don't and won't, so most are willing to accept government regulations. Hell when there's even a slight evaluation from a government then EA has a history of straight up fighting it rather than adapting.

[@swinnburn]

The wicker man?

[@goliathprojects7354]

This is a pretty good reaction. Finally someone who had something to say to the video they were watching.

[@EmberQuill]

30:39 You know, I never thought that the stores/platforms themselves might actually do this to people just innocently trying to sell their stuff. Good on you for closing the Redbubble store when they refused to fix it, and now I suppose I'll stop and think for a moment when I see that happening elsewhere. I'll have to stop and wonder whether it's the seller's fault or that of the people running the website...

[@unknowndane4754]

A first step can always be to simply ask the creators if they're aware of it, if they try to excuse it then you can more justifiably assume they're at the very least indifferent about it

[@cazer969]

Gonna bring back an oldie but a turdie, but remember horse armor? That's the first big uproar I remember for Bethesda's cheap money grubbing.

[@linkmariokirby7373]

Oddly enough, games nowadays sell skins and cosmetics all the time and no one bats an eye. Bethesda was truly ahead of their time.

[@Spearra]

@@linkmariokirby7373 Not to mention the critics of it, warned of the precedent that horse shenanigans would set.

[@jaredargento1511]

@@Spearra We never truly realize the wisdom of prophets until their predictions come true.

[@theirishviking9278]

And oddly it would go on to release one of the best examples of dlc I know of with New Vegas

[@ShawnTheDriver]

"Sit on it and rotate" LMAO

[@renatocfrancisco]

8:16 [insert slow clap here]

[@generictimestamperstupendi9021]

2:30 paragon situation 6:55 E3 live reaction story... 8:00 WHERES MY ELDER SCROLLS 6! i love you Nic , standing ovation 9:45 how you like me now! last laugh 16:15 wanna point out that IF you had captions on during that bit of "Todd" pumping up the shotgun (as of me writing this) the captions would read "(Pump that 12 Gauge in me Daddy Todd)" 17:20 pretty plz 18:19 as i said on the original video; we're killing rainforests *F O R T H I S* 20:36 Ad time 23:40 why i dont preorder shit 25:33 new level of incompetance 26:00 Apex "Ghosting" transactions on the store 30:30 redbubble fake reviews "STUPIDSTUPID" 33:25 what were you gonna say nate... W H A T W A S I T?!?! 33:55 Squidwards favorite rapper... thats from a Fits video right? 35:55 lower prices illegal, Nic the Crime Stopper 37:42 that laugh at rapppist 38:50 worried about elder scrolls 6 *DO NOT PREOORDER* 40:10 speaking of preorder bonuses 42:5- Carmac "video game story telling is like pornn plotlines, you dont come for those" I mean it definitely works with stuff like Pacman or Pong or Snake (why am i in a grid chased by ghosts, why is there a "war" between 2 paddles, where is this snake food coming from) . sekiro overwatch SoulsBorne examples 45:30 Jeff "DickNose" Kaplan tell us your secrets, i hope you dont see this 46:42 Almost making EA look good... THATSAINSULT 47:27 Quinta Fingers Cross 48:40 Black Mesa fuck it WE will make Half Life 3 , Skywind Skyblivion , talking to Bethesda making moneys your main concern DO IT

[@Parasolhyena]

Oh my gosh I'm so excited to watch you guys react to this!!!! Gonna get some snacks!!!

[@Longshot441]

I called 76 early and I got the same response from my friends. I was just hating on it and all that, come around I see the gameplay and the bugs. Plus 1 to me and I then called how it would turn out later. Once again not believed and oh how I enjoyed their reactions as I sat in my recliner and with some snacks and a soda.

[@uselessparadox6245]

Same but about anthem hell I even lost some friends in the process of trying to explain to them that pre-ordering it was stupid looking back on it some of the things I said to them were uncalled for but still I was right

[@Longshot441]

@@uselessparadox6245 Yep. It's sad that we have to be wary of ever released game. Hopefully it changes but unlikely. Unless one of the top companies go bankrupt then we will have a few years of it.

[@mohammadjavadyeganeh5292]

@@uselessparadox6245 Well I literally told my friend that 76 would be disappointing, after a long arguement I literally will win anyway. I'll wait one week after it's release, if it was good, I'll enjoy it. If it was bad, I'll laugh at your fantarded self. Never talked to him again. :(

[@That_Doctor_Del_Fella]

If ever there was a shining example of the term "comedy of errors" in the gaming industry within the last decade, Fallout 76 is it. I honestly had little interest (or faith) in 76 after playing ESO years ago, so I let this game and its scandals go under my radar. I mean yeah, I heard the game was boring, buggy, and empty but I had no idea that Bethesda scummed everybody this hard. I feel so sorry for the loyal fans who have been wronged by Bethesda every single step of the way with this game. You deserve way better.

[@xxxhalo4everxxx]

Eso has become a great game since then atleast tho

[@Ariaaae]

16:18 finally someone recognized the Persona 5 music 😍

[@todomahem1]

Some fan's got together and are making skywind and Skyblivion, which are Morrowind and Oblivion remade on the Skyrim engine.

[@StellaBorneWatches]

They were. Then they got shut down by Bethesda because they wanted people to pay $40 for each. Which, demanding money for your mod is a very big "No" unless it's one of the sponsored programs like the one Bethesda has for Skyrim and Fallout 4 inside the game itself, and Minecraft has on XB1, which go beyond being mods. Selling a mod-product is wrong due to the fact the very base code, at the very least, is not yours to sell off in any way, shape or form, infringing on copyright laws. Which, some companies outright also prohibit accepting donations for the mod team, limiting them to revenue through ads played before the download (they tried to ban that, too, and failed in every court case), which is where things get stupidly painful for modders; making significantly sizeable mods takes a lot of time, effort and money alike to do something being stuck in the hobby category, especially if you can't take donations for it.

[@tjones7341]

Koreda Haiyatto But they weren’t shut down? Where did you hear that?

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

@@StellaBorneWatches they are still going the only mods that were temporeraly stopped were skyrim together because the group werent allowed to use steam and stuff about them stealing script and fallout 4 captital waistland because of legal isues with using peoples voices

[@mdragarg]

Just like chrono trigger remastered that Nintendo shat all over

[@RenegadeShepTheSpacer]

31:00 Respect to you for giving them the boot after that.

[@chrisgreilich9804]

"still has some problems" talk about an understatement lol

[@Skrilltrap]

That's just understatement suicide.

[@siresorb1419]

Internet Historian the great 4chan war is awesome! You should react to that.

[@AWACS_Snowblind]

_Rest in peace Paragon. I feel you so hard on that one, Nick. I hate Epic now for the same damn reason._

[@Jhertzog83]

There's always hope for Core by Metabuff!

[@duelgundam]

Epic: But- TC: _grunts_ Not a god damn word.

[@kingofmonsters14]

tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies...

[@larrypoppins6273]

Thank God Bethesda redeemed themselves with Doom eternal.

[@dulizardglasses3170]

These lies aren’t sweet nor little

[@soul6733]

@@larrypoppins6273 And then screwed themselves again sith the Doom soundtrack scandal.

[@mechachurch4556]

@@larrypoppins6273 They did nothing for Doom Eternal. They were only the publishers of it. id Software are the developers behind the entirety of the game.

[@mechachurch4556]

@@soul6733 Actually it was more of Mick Gordon's fault for being quite lazy with the Eternal soundtrack. Doesn't matter though when we got Andrew Hulshult who is amazing.

[@140ppolarbear5]

now react to the triggering of shia by internet historian.

[@newbie6377]

First time i watched that, especially the capture the flag, was nothing short of magical

[@killjoy4009]

YES YES YES

[@twirox1662]

He will not devide us!

[@rararasputin8608]

After a while, Kars- I mean, Shia stopped thinking.

[@kunomuller7423]

I stopped caring about the game the second they announced it was an Online game.

[@the_openers_of_eyes8]

yeah, maybe an online MODE for like role playing and stuff, but not the whole FUCKING game, fallout franchise is supposed to be single player really

[@Judokasting]

The Internet Historian is just about the only one i will watch the ads in video for, cos he makes them so entertaining. Lindybinge is another i like.

[@Shiirow]

that rum section, missed a golden opportunity for a Captain Jack Sparrow meme.

[@bossbeartherock6034]

ty so much for this , was hyped for THIS .

[@isiahsheppard7620]

“Never have I seen such a level of incompetence” Cyberpunk 2077: 👀

[@ishouldkillmyself]

to be fair i wouldnt call cyberpunk's release worse than 76, in fact its probably the same amount of shit

[@TheOrcaBoss]

@@ishouldkillmyselfthe difference is that cyberpunk actually got better while 76… ehhh

[@doctorsnakeeater1997]

You guys need to watch more Internet Historian, his stuff is fun.

[@huntersmith2355]

He knew that toilet paper was gonna be a meme

[@complain9269]

7:45 Sorry to hear that guys. If I was watching you guys being skeptical, I would agree. Fallout 4 and ESO were warning shots and I knew it. I wish I was there to help bring a new thought there.

[@gothicMCRgirl]

Complain Yup. Nintendo tried to do something similar when they announced Breath of the Wild the first time. Like, at the time, it was obvious that the game was still far from finished, but Nintendo was making promises of releasing the game that same year or something, and people were justifiably expressing doubts. Thankfully Nintendo took the high road and decided to delay the game until it was properly finished. Bethesda probably should’ve taken a page from BotW in that instance.

[@AstralDragoon]

The reaction to your reservations about Fallout 76's launch state is a good illustration of the core problem with modern big-budget game development. It's not greedy or incompetent developers; it's the gamers who mindlessly jump on hype trains and give them money no matter the circumstances. It's how we got uninspired tripe like Anthem, and here, we have a Fallout game that's nothing but an amateur-hour survival/crafting game with Fallout elements stapled onto it.

[@roguescorner9042]

Quite so. What do companies want? Money. And if they make a bad product and get lots of money off of it, what reason do they have to stop? If it sells, they'll keep making it.

[@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau]

​@@roguescorner9042 Sounds like Pokemon Arceus 😂

[@kyubiiofrage]

I can’t wait to see the sequel of this whole mess with Starfield.

[@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau]

Do you need to update your brain or something?

[@jojidixonmidnightotaku2354]

I was excited for 76. But I'll just stick with Fallout 4 I need to play the DLC next.

[@CertifiedSunset]

Same

[@patrickholt2270]

And there's all the great mods, once you figure out which the better ones are.

[@CertifiedSunset]

@@patrickholt2270 I have modded my Fallout 4 so much it looks like a different game, lol.

[@thelastdino8019]

Playing fallout 76 because its free for a week. Its eh if they add mods ill prob buy it

[@whizpy1409]

I am gonna like it so it will not be 76.

[@solarconker]

Love that you caught the p5 music an actual good game and probably one of the best ever

[@dreamwalking]

Bro, nice to hear another person who remembers Paragon.

[@commoncrook8531]

Forgot the part where Bethesda recalled the helmets because of "harmful material"

[@hideofreakingkojima5457]

The video was made before that happened

[@5PctJuice]

I remember when I saw this video the first time. I never played Fallout 76, partly because I was just really disappointed with Fallout 4, so I didn't pay any attention to the drama around its release. I did know it was a buggy mess from some friends, though. Also, rule of thumb: if a game's primary selling point is how good it looks, unless it's a VR test game or a photorealistic simulator game, it's probably gonna be shit. For reference on Fallout 4, I've started it at least 8 times and never finished a single questline. I lose interest too quickly. I love the style, some of the play options, a lot of the mechanics, and the jokes. Diamond City Radio is probably my favorite aspect of the whole game. But I've never been able to actually bring myself to finish the game.

[@Here_is_Waldo]

Same here. I bought the VR version as well, just because I wanted to help encourage them to make more VR games, and that was actually entertaining. It didn't fix an of the story issues, but as a VR game it's pretty fun exploring ruins like that.

[@passingrando6457]

The problem is that each Bethesda game is shallower than the last, just with better presentation. Fallout 4 was simplified from Skyrim was simplified from Fallout 3 was simplified from Oblivion was simplified from Morrowind. The simplicity makes it more accessible, but after a point it makes it so much less satisfying. In Morrowind, random bandits and monsters would wreck your shit at level 1. Coming back across those bandits later as a level 30 Battlemage was satisfying as fuck. A simpler game is easier to grasp from the get go, but loses it's luster as things stop changing and developing much faster.

[@mgunter]

The CD's aren't illegal because they have a set price they go back to after a set amount of time.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Except what's the point of having a disk when its just a piece of cardboard telling you to redeem an online code? The CD shouldn't be a way to get you to go to another platform entirely, people buy hard copies to have the option of "oh I can't play this on this platform but I can play it on another"

[@hukei8577]

@@cursedhawkins1305 Different CDs. They mean the talk that dude on the right said. He talked about how CDs release with special price. They do have a special, but they also do have an original retail price that they return to. The price for CDs are a special, unlike fallout 76. 76 originally released an item for 1200, but then made it a limited time "special" to seem like it was originally 2400. Basically giving people less time to think and trying to force/encourage a buy on a fake deal.

[@Spectre1122]

18:40 76 now on steam :)

[@TheGreenManiac10]

The backlash was 4 times the size of fallout 4

[@MemestiffGaming]

I really like the story of the fake reviews and I'm even happier you talked about it

[@v3ck1n]

8:15 I started laughing, you earned your subscription

[@Grottgreta]

Light wood laminate! Light wood laminate! Light wood laminate!

[@patrickholt2270]

I think it would be good if old IPs became common use after a while, like with patents expiring, so that other companies and modding teams and the fan community could create additional DLC and stuff. That's something I've wanted forever, as with the old Basic and Expert D&D Known World, which I love, which there's been nothing new for since 2nd Edition AD&D, because WoTC are retaining the copyright preventing anyone else from updating the setting or converting it for Pathfinder or anything.

[@matt36866]

This was the first vid I saw from him, beginning of this year I think. Loved the level of quality then was happily surprised to see he'd been going for a few years, so watched through all the the backlog. Shame he doesn't upload more frequently but I understand it takes time and the right topic to pop up. Also didn't realise I wasn't subbed to you guys, watched you on and off probably in the last two years and enjoy your choice of content and personalities. Sorted now subbed. Much love from Yorkshire England

[@ItsAnH]

20:03 I'm glad you didn't say something along the lines of "If I was that customer, I'd have done the same thing" IIRC I think a streamer by the name of Asmongold said something so outrageous and inconsiderate.

[@Phantom.Gaming64]

I haven't been screwed over by game developers, but I have been screwed over by online retail stores. Case in point, "Coolshop", a online retail store based in Nothern Europe that sells all sorts of products online to multiple European countries. I tried to pre-order "Borderlands 2" for PlayStation 3, and due to personal reasons I had to cancel the order. They only refunded half of my money back. So I contacted customer support asking "what the hell is going on, why didn't you give me a full refund for my order?" Response back from CS: "Our system indicates we have given the refund, there is nothing we can do about that." I was thinking to myself "did these f:ers just scam me??" I have never purchased from them ever since.

[@randomknight2585]

33:35 YES FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT

[@gearhooves5996]

27:45 Imagine before the delay they had the glass ones but then delayed it because of the “fallout standards”

[@lumif3564]

ESO is actually pretty sick now tbh

[@maxthereapernephilim2416]

8:17 YES! Thank you, Nick! Where is elder scrolls 6? I want my next part of Skyrim, man.

[@realkingofantarctica]

Fallout 76's release summed up in one word: "Yikes."

[@delightfulblueberries7405]

I can't believe how dedicated fans must of felt dear god.

[@not_abot213]

I’ve yet to actually be screwed over by a video game company mainly because I don’t pay for online multiplayer games. I’ve owned accounts on free online games that are already shut down, so I’d rather not chance it with payed ones.

[@theblackdragon7568]

Unfortunately I have been screwed over by game company. For me it was EA with star wars battlefront 2

[@Drunk_n_Sailr]

My bad experience with gaming companies: I bought Anthem...

[@oddacity5883]

F

[@zurabsiradze7822]

F my brother

[@Nmille98]

F

[@zebbehansen1100]

So sorry to hear that man🙁

[@fleon1269]

Warframe is better, and it's free. F man, I feel ya.

[@matthewmabry1709]

I’m worried for The Elder Scrolls 6

[@TheConpletionist]

Wonder how everyone who gave backlash to you guys before the game came out is feeling now lol

[@TheRetroGamerGuy]

ᴘʀᴏʙᴀʙʟʏ ғᴇᴇʟ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀ ʙᴜɴᴄʜ ᴏғ ɪᴅɪᴏᴛs ɴᴏᴡ.

[@doctorsnakeeater1997]

@@TheRetroGamerGuy Or they're hiding their heads under the dirt like ostriches, unwilling to accept the truth.

[@matthewmac5787]

@keller blair sheep*

[@passingrando6457]

Don't worry, people will still defend the next Bethesda game from criticism. This is only the most famous example of Bethesda's games getting shittier over time, it isn't even a new phenomenon. Remember how Skyrim scrapped half the planned new features, removed a bunch of old ones, and gutted faction questlines, different character builds, and two thirds of the fucking color palette? Remember when Fallout 4 cut skills, branching quest paths, and the ability to say different things instead of saying the same thing in different ways? But no, even most of the people shitting on 76 now told the people who complained back then that they were being too critical. I'll admit to some petty schadenfreude at everyone acting shocked and betrayed over this mess. It was obvious if you weren't a mindless consumer with no ability to critique the shit you shovel down your throat.

[@LESTR97]

Leave it to Bethesda to find a way to put the goddamn Y2K bug in a big budget video game in 2018

[@dragonandavatarfan8865]

Thanks for watching the ad. So many reactors just skipped it.

[@ethanwalter5750]

I was also skeptical of 76 when i first heard about it and i am glad no one I now bought this game

[@mcbadrobotvoice8155]

Do more internet historian

[@themessenger1871]

37:16 Enter Starfield

[@HeroAndReporter]

My biggest wonder is how did they go so wrong with F76 when Elder Scrolls Online is doing so well? While it isn’t on terms of WoW or Diablo level, it still has a sizable presence.

[@J01789]

ESO was terrible at first. How long did it take for them to work on it after launch to bring it to an acceptable state?

[@carolusrex5213]

@@J01789 It took like 3 to 4 years lol

[@lt.kitkat]

"It just works." "Were it so easy,"

[@thedrunkencoffeeman3554]

Ok so i got fallout 4 (after the game was fixed) and i loved with all of my heart. Even with the mods i praised Bathesda for their great game. When i saw fallout 76 coming out i felt so hyped i begged my mom to get it for me. I was gonna get it for Christmas on the same day. But when my sister told me that you had to play it online (where i live in the middle of nowhere with shitty wifi) i was sad. After my friend told me that the game was broke to fucking hell, i was fucking pissed. I told my mom to take the fucking shit back because of the bullshit i was fed to.

[@Mugthraka]

36:24 No whats illigal is for example. A product that cost 20$ normally is advertised as been 50% off sale, but the price tag shows 40$ bared and 20$ sale price. You inflate the price, put the sale, and sell it at the original price without any sale to begin with, and put a big bright read/yellow "For a Limited time only" or "till the stocks lasts" to create urgency.

[@ALUCARD-us3il]

Zen-RPG which is (in the EU, Canada, Australia and the United States) illegal, why did Bethesda think this was a good idea?

[@froddobaggins]

From the moment I saw the trailer for the game I knew it was going to be garbo. I told my friend who LOVES Fallout. He basically told me that I was just talking shit. Days after the game came out he told me I was right lmao.

[@thespanishinquisition8628]

So in summary... Yep!

[@RenegadesReact]

Pretty much... Yep!

[@Vasarcdus]

Mmhmm.

[@Mugthraka]

13:43 "Some poeple did enjoy the game" maybe... Then again some people enjoy Zoophilia and Necrophilia, that doesn't make it ok...

[@alexanderklein4118]

ok thats a BIT of a stretch but yeah

[@christopherstresing1673]

I get what he means about the pre-order BS. When Skylanders Imaginators first came out, I spent the better part of HALF OF A YEAR trying to find the Chompy Mage figure. THEN I found out it was only available through pre-order...OFF OF AMAZON.

[@wishgenie7023]

I too was screwed by epic games. I had purchased the Fortnite Save the World mode, as well as some in game items, because I genuinely enjoyed it and disliked the battle royale. About a month later my account was wiped for no explainable reason, and when I contacted epic, they refused to give any kind of reimbursement or support.

[@jaydawg116]

Hey thanks guys for making quality reacts, where you actually discuss this stuff. Quality content.

[@antoined799]

Hopefully you guys react to all the E3 conferences.

[@scavenger6268]

Creative Assembly's DLC policy was essentially a reskin and "now this NPC faction is playable" until Total War Warhammer where they actually started adding unique content.

[@peterbeck2589]

still no bag btw :P

[@druchii_or_death1642]

I think Bethesda was just hoping people would forget, or they forgot themselves.

[@generalkenobi5173]

@@druchii_or_death1642 nop people never forgot and the lawsuit is coming and its going to be bad very bad.

[@druchii_or_death1642]

DARK YODA I said Bethesda was hoping, not they were actually intelligent enough to know people would remember. But you are right, that Lawsuit is going to be glorious and well earned.

[@generalkenobi5173]

@@druchii_or_death1642 puts a smile on my face

[@MrCrasherdog]

Source for your profile pic?

[@larrypoppins6273]

2:37 *ahem* jack, do you have anything to say about this? Jack Sparrow: why is the rum gone?

[@Excalibur-Sonic]

He so needs to make a part 2.

[@generaldeadpool3245]

for real

[@TrianglePants]

and make it about other games run into the ground hard like Anthem or CyberPunk

[@Mr_Original]

0:04 ...I have _never_ seen such a short list of recent Patrons on this channel before...

[@TheRetroBooth]

My experience was Gearbox and the Aliens Colonial Marines flop. Was hyped since the game was announced on a game informer magazine in I think 2008 and ate into the fake "gameplay" trailers. Pre-ordered the $100 collectors edition... never pre-ordered anything since lol.

[@TheAngryXenite]

You know the worst thing about Colonial Marines? If memory serves, the problem was a fairly minor coding error. There's a mod that corrects it that largely fixes the godawful AI, all by correcting an instance of "teather" when there should be "tether."