Renegades React to... Nostalgia Critic - The Lorax

[@tylermiller9212]

This is a fairly old video by now but I've got to tell you that there is a cut song from the movie called "Biggering". It was replaced with "How Bad Could I Be", and I hate Illumination for cutting it. Its the best song that they made and it seems to fit the original theme of the Lorax so well.

[@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095]

I like both but biggering is much better

[@Jarod-sm5rf]

“True beauty never fades you just have to be reminded of it once in a while” this quote is why I love Doug walker and his friends.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Very true

[@gaigous1250]

"I killed him and stole all of his possessions." - Malcolm as Black Wonka I love Nostalgia Critic so much.

[@Mr_Original]

Same, that part was hilarious. 😂

[@cottontail1039]

What guy is he talking about anyway?

[@Mr_Original]

@@cottontail1039 The man who got everything he ever wanted.

[@cottontail1039]

@@Mr_Original I know that, but is he a character from 'Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory' or something? I never got to see the whole thing.

[@Mr_Original]

@@cottontail1039 No idea, this was based off a quote from that movie, except Willy answered "He lived happily ever after." I doubt the person he was talking about even showed up in the movie at all... unless he was referring to himself.

[@KodieUnknown]

So.... Ben dug up Dr.Seuss, attached magnets to him, and now he’s just spinning in a generator? Yeah, that sounds like something Mad Doctor Tolliver would do.

[@That_Doctor_Del_Fella]

My vivid imagination pictured it so perfectly

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

Danny DeVito is, in fact, a mystical being from beyond time and space. Long may he reign

[@omerozel4716]

HAI

[@DavidRay_40]

Huh?

[@AdachiChocolate]

I actually really liked a song that never made it to the final cut called “ Biggering” It was way more somber and darker than the song they used in the movie. Also I find the best thing that came from this movie actually was the wellspring of ideas that the fandom created afterwards. So many good stories and AUs were made. So it’s funny to know that fans created better stories than the movie writers themselves.

[@she_bear_aurora]

What song did they end up using instead of that one?

[@midnightheart5905]

@@she_bear_aurora They used "How Bad Can I Be" which is the song the Once-ler sang as he kept on demanding for more trees to be chopped down. I agree though "Biggering" was way better. Not to mention, it sounds amazing!

[@th3lonef0x4]

Biggering is easily up there with Hellfire.

[@Fbonin]

I was about to make a comment about the biggering but you beat me to it.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

True

[@VigilantKnight005]

Your speech about forming a bubble hit me hard. I'm an introvert; I hate being in crowds and I hate noise. I can't tell when people are joking. Years later, I would get bitter about the times my friends manipulated me. As a teenager, I was frustrated with school, afraid of my future, and miserable about my classes. I have many regrets about high school. I felt like I was meant to be alone. I struggled with finding myself. I was even more miserable in my one year of college. The classes frustrated me even more. I made friends, only to get so miserable about not graduating the program that I deleted their contact information and never spoke to them again. These days, I'm frustrated that I have trouble talking to people. All I have is online friends and my own writing, which I post.

[@pundertalefan4391]

Call me a sucker for cuteness, but even though this movie isn't a very good one in my opinion, I honestly think the moment at the end with lorax and onceler hugging is cute and heartwarming. I also honestly think this movie wouldn't be a good adaptation of the original, but rather, a post apocalyptic sequel to the original.

[@NashTheBlade]

Yeah....But it still sucks

[@orlandogarcia7084]

"You done good kid." Sure. If mutilating mother nature and ruining all delicate ecosystems counts

[@exoticcats6119]

Orlando Garcia He was a good businessman but also incredibly bad he should’ve been able to make an invention that only got the truffula with all the money so his supply doesn’t run out

[@Chloe4656.]

It was still bad in my opinion

[@catsaremyfavorit6514]

My favorite dr. Seus book is when he cheated on his dying wife

[@Pablo360able]

The message of this review is a lot like his Shyamalan Airbender one. I think it's a good message that bears repeating, and I expect to see it again in the future.

[@rotciv557]

Not only does he state said message here, he also said it in the Cat in the Hat review.

[@Miglohara]

Easily one of Doug's best reviews.

[@jamesmoyner7499]

I love their reaction when Doug says "Black Willy Wonka!"

[@LillyDarkfire2]

Agreed. :D

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

No, it's not. It's as bad as his Cat in the Hat review.

[@Miglohara]

ChiefMedicPururu Sure.

[@someguy3263]

ᵗʰᵉNight★Star Ok

[@dragneel1734]

46:54 Doing a reaction with yoi guys is actually on my bucket list. ive been watching for a long while and you guys are an inspiration.

[@pundertalefan4391]

Wow. That Giving Tree reference at the beginning. And nobody got it. Sad times...

[@Sasquatch-fx6gw]

Pundertale Fan i pretty sure they got it but they were too busy laughing.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Sadly I didn’t understand the reference. Wish I did 😆

[@pundertalefan4391]

@@questworldiangreenknight7455 It's an old children's book by Shel Silverstein. It's very bittersweet.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

@@pundertalefan4391 I’m gonna check that out, I love classic literature!

[@pundertalefan4391]

@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Cool. :03

[@Coyote_Man]

14:38 Nic is me while watching this movie

[@giovanniorellana2200]

Malcolm makes a better Willy Wonka than Johnny Depp. I'll await your pitchforks and torches.

[@darkebuddha]

Giovanni Orellana No, I absolutely agree with you. The video game of the film was a thousand times better than the film. I'd love to see a video game based on Malcolm Wonka.

[@giovanniorellana2200]

Darkest Dweller There was a video game?

[@mathewhuong3421]

Malcolm had so much fun with that role, and also a clear vision of what his character should be! He's also extremely charming

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

To the bog with you

[@xgray2012]

Giovanni Orellana Meh!!! I can't argue with that. But if you say he's better than Gene Wilder, than we have a problem here.

[@DrRush-ow4qg]

There is a song that was cut from called “Biggering”, this was infinitely better than what “How bad can I be?”

[@colinfarr3523]

1:45 Fritz Frelang did this, not Chuck Jones.

[@allisonbeattie4738]

@12:44 When you are watching this in 2019 and the Jonas Brothers JUST announced the are getting back together 😂😂😂

[@AJSSPACEPLACE]

The writers have repeatedly stated that the briefcase contained diamonds

[@Eques_Umbra]

And here I thought it was a nifty little flashlight.

[@roxtechs]

24:52 this would probably be the most out of context moment in nostalgia critic love how confused Nick is.

[@ZoanBlade90]

42:00 to the final minutes: THIS is why I watch these. I like hearing their opinions, and some are very enlightening.

[@EpicFableBean]

Congrats for being the one person lol

[@jimatroniusmaxiumus6211]

What the onceler did in both Lorax movies is like chopping down banana trees in a plantation to get their fruit and not replanting.

[@BugsyFoga]

The 2000's grinch film and Horton hears a who are dr Seuss movies I legitimately enjoy 😁👌

[@thegroove14]

I watch the Grinch every December!

[@talesofventus4249]

I remember seeing the vhs for the grinch and being terrified and not going down that sanction

[@giovanniorellana2200]

I think learning about the KFC creator might be my favorite thing I've heard on this channel!

[@paperfox19]

still wish they kept the original song of biggering in the lorax I felt the message in that was stronger than "how bad can i be"

[@akirealamub]

In honor of the last Sharknado movie, you guys should watch Nostalgia Critic's review of the first Sharknado with the Cinema Snob.

[@Mr_Original]

Nate and the gang gives a very inspiring speech about never giving up, followed by calling out possibly one of my most incessant contemplations... that's a sour grape to bite right there.

[@cadentubeohara3970]

I will forever disagree when people say Charlie and the chocolate factory 2005 wasn’t good when it is the true form of the story even uses the og Oompa Loompa designs

[@iamthemeguyhere]

This is the first time I fully watched after the reaction, *_WHAT THE FUCK HAVE I MISSED SINCE I STARTED WATCHING THIS CHANNEL A FEW MONTHS AGO?!?!?!_*

[@That_Doctor_Del_Fella]

So we've been blessed with a week of Hannah and a week of Clinton. Its only a matter of time before we get a week of Aerial chasing Nate around the house to the tune of Yakety Sax.

[@spimtmot733]

8:11 Moe Howard... is that you

[@brianalambert1192]

It hurts me that they basically portray businessmen as either stupid or evil. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure quite a few are, but why not show the difficulties of being an ethical businessman when you are caught between the businessmen that are cheating and the anticorporate roving bands that just call them evil, like the makers of this movie

[@MissBarker93]

Please do a reaction to his Fox Kids video. It's amazing.

[@susanliptak6595]

Sarah Barker :

[@ZyroShadowPony]

Sarah Barker has it been a month?

[@Kenneth_Agapito]

To Renegades: please be advised.the video is 1hr long.better order a take out

[@Emisop]

If it's been a month since the video came out they will. They wait until a month passes before watching any NC videos.

[@bullseyecello]

It's been a month so 🤞

[@jasondamrau9943]

I'm so glad that they also liked Horton Hears A Who, my friend and I loved that movie way more than we should have but still love it to this day

[@SylviaGrome]

This movie is a movie I love for how objectively terrible it is in the funniest way. This movie has so many layers to its terribleness with each layer getting funnier and funnier.

[@sammyt7981]

16:44 I knew that he knew about that

[@tvccreator_elysius]

Fun fact, Renegades: That intro was a direct reference to "The Giving Tree."

[@thesmilingman7576]

1:22 I remember watching some of it falling asleep and waking up to the credits of the film

[@min0uet]

The songs in this movie were really good (except for, you know, that one exception) and that makes me super angry. Although I recently figured out why; it's because John Powell did the score. Anyway, the songs were way better than the movie deserved

[@mckenzie.latham91]

To be honest the songs are fine, they just don't fit with this material.

[@matthewaven3802]

My high school used this movie to teach about nature science… we were all cheated in high school.

[@brianaranki340]

Chuck Jones didn’t produce the 1972 special. It was Friz Freleng

[@giantbrayford7754]

Either way, it was amazing.

[@drakeware655]

Please react to Nostalgia Critic's Old vs New of Spider-Man

[@LilFireFox]

Has anyone else noticed that they have been reacting to N.Critic less? It went from once a week to 'maybe' once a month. I love your react vids to the Nostalgia Critic. I want more of them and more of the 'gas station movies' to react too. And 'Ah-Men Nate! Cause it is SO TRUE!!!! I did my own laundry at 19, I was cleaning the house as young as 16. I have and still saved my bottles for recycling to buy things my EBT won't buy like shampoo, soap, razors, pads, etc. Kids now a days have NO IDEA the value of a dollar, or their soft 'make believe world.' And I am 36 btw.

[@xgray2012]

LilFire Fox No, I think anyone else might noticed it.

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

One of my favourite reactions of yours and one of my favourite nostalgia critic episodes!

[@sammyt7981]

22:44 Ohhhhhhhhh that brings back painful memories.

[@calebdziepak2950]

Yeah I turned 20 last month, right about the same time that I got my first job. Adult life is really starting to come at me. I thought I was ready, and it hasn't really come at me fully yet, but I'm not sure I am. I'm by no means giving up, and the depression that I experienced in high school hasn't come back to me yet, but it might. But I have big aspirations that I want to get to. I want to get a masters in history, before I try to become a professional voice actor. I also want to create a manga series that is successful in Japan and the west. I have a lot of work to do, but I believe that I can get there if I put in that work. You guys are awesome, and I love hearing your stories.

[@cottontail1039]

12:28 Yes, yes it was. I was not 1 of them, but that group really existed. -_-

[@johnandsoon6081]

Does no one else know that story referenced in the beginning? The Giving Tree, I think.

[@brianalambert1192]

I love how everytime we meet Black Willy Wonka, he gets creepier and creepier. My favorite is probably in Hop. I do not dare spoil it

[@Emisop]

The Tim Burton Willy Wonka was great! (And the original book was dark.)

[@kittycatmeowmeow963]

I read the original book. It didn't seem so dark to me.

[@Eques_Umbra]

You want dark, look into Minusland from the Great Glass Elevator.

[@johnavenger]

Tamara is the cutest girl in the Nostalgia critic's web show.

[@thesmilingman7576]

22:55 I don't know much about inception besides the fact that there are dreams in a dream if that makes sence

[@__S.T__]

movie: oh hi Ted my brain: *_o hai Mark_*

[@corruptangel6793]

I liked the grinch. "dinner with me--I can't cancel that again!"

[@sentry_repair_mann]

I swear I sounded like Micha 2 years ago. I was friggin 12. 6:23

[@callisto8413]

Oh yes, this was a good NC review. A great one.

[@nothanks7063]

They even added a subtle joke with the big bear and the look the Lorax shoots him for half a second, so they can to subtlety, they just choose not to.

[@calebdziepak2950]

I loved Lorax as a kid. I also loved the original animated movie. That is probably one of the best film adaptations ever.

[@autumbreeze1129]

Caleb Dziepak 🤨

[@justafan9399]

Autum Breeze I think he is referring to the original animated short.

[@sadlobster1]

I agree with what the Critic said about fads, they ARE stupid. Like the current dark and bloody fad Marvel and DC are in with their movies and shows. When we, the viewers, say we want mature films. We mean we want films with deep stories, meaningful lessons, believable drama and small doses of charm. The short film version of The Lorax did this splendidly and it was made AGES AGO

[@elizabethsmith7224]

sadlobster1 Ok I understand DC but Marvel?

[@sadlobster1]

Captain America: Civil War and Infinity War come to mind, in terms of grittiness. But I guess, what I MEANT was that we're currently stuck in a superhero fad. Almost every other movie coming out to theaters has been based on a Marvel or DC property. At first, this was a cool idea and it brought us many great movies. But after so many years, the whole fad is starting to lose its luster. I for one am getting sick of all these Marvel or DC movies coming out. Particularly because they change some of the heroes in the worst kind of ways. Making Thor a prince from an alien planet? Changing Peter Quill's awesome descended from royalty storyline to him being the son of Ego, the Living Planet, making Thanos like a sort of "sympathetic" villain. Don't even get me started on what DC has been doing. The point is...people are beginning to not care as much about superhero movies anymore. I for one want the fantasy genre to make a comeback to theaters. Swords & sorcery, high adventure, mythical creatures, noble heroes; THAT stuff is cool. Unlike short-hair Thor and nice guy Thanos

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

@@sadlobster1 I have to admit, it was pretty funny when _The Incredibles 2_ poked fun at the "dark and edgy" fad when Elastigirl gets her new supersuit. :)

[@jamestomato1744]

@@sadlobster1 Though I feel that a lot of the changes you disagree with on the MCU side, are subjective. Like, I for one, liked the changes. Especially the Thanos one, as I found the comic book versions motivations, while psychotic, just bland in comparison (but that's just me).

[@sadlobster1]

@@jamestomato1744 I'd prefer it if he were the death obsessed Mad Titan instead of the "misunderstood bad boy" the MCU made him into

[@DavidRay_40]

When does "Black Willy Wonka" make his first appearance? I know it's really Malcolm.

[@justafan9399]

This video, I believe.

[@amethyst_dawn]

Man I remember when NC made good content. I think this is one of the last reviews he made where he actually substantiated his arguments, didn't cherry pick or misrepresent scenes, and his skits actually felt genuine. His content has gone downhill dramatically, with only the occassional hidden nickels. I'd say hidden gems, but that'd be giving even his better recent videos too much credit.

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

His cats review was good.

[@emilymcmahan7630]

Well I can’t wait to see what he says about the Grinch (2018)

[@ffjreviews9029]

I think he said it was one of the better ones. Though I haven’t seen his 2018 Grinch review since he uploaded it.

[@sinbadsolomon8508]

I feel like pointing out a small, but important nonetheless, detail as to why they added in a clear villain. It isn’t because HE caused the issues of pollution, it’s because he’s preventing those issues from being dealt with. He’s supposed to represent people that go out of their way to deny the impact we have on our planet and the fact that we are slowly killing it. The message from the original is still there, they just added a new one that speaks to modern day. Because on the TV, the radio and in social media you’ll see these kinds of people who are actively trying to stamp out others efforts to help the planet. That’s why the present and past are show as being two stories. Once about the fact that anyone can make a mistake and not realize the consequences of it, the other about people who take advantage of that consequence and actively abuse it and sustain it for personal gain. Just a personal thought I felt like sharing despite this reaction being old as hell.

[@Destroya7961]

My dad and I went to see the Lorax and all my dad said was it was definitely very colorful

[@dokuganryu1565]

8:05 .....It surprises me how it ended for Edna.

[@thesmilingman7576]

14:56 Nintendo may have a problem with their ip being refrenced in that film

[@jasondamrau9943]

Lol this review taught me the Onceler was not in fact Zack Braff

[@tiffanytheclinician]

Can someone explain the Bill Waterson line, I don’t get it :/

[@Megamanlanprime]

This review is so good! Also you guys should react to the Nostalgia Critic’s Matrix reviews. They are very fun

[@autumbreeze1129]

Totally unrelated to the video question: have you guys seen Teen Titans go to the Movies and if so, what was your opinion on it? I'm going to see it this Thursday because I want OG Teen Titans season 6 to happen

[@gamewiz720]

Reaction starts at 2:30

[@fanof5950]

Hows everyone doing today?

[@bridgetorlando7788]

Good

[@thebaronanative8289]

DemonFan OfManyThings its my birthday so there's that!

[@willb.history4210]

Pretty good.

[@ironkevman1513]

DemonFan OfManyThings good, trying to forget the Lorax. And happy birthday Native.

[@thebaronanative8289]

Ironkevman 151 thank you very much.

[@Nazo-kage]

5:00 well I’m going to stand up for the small hairy orange. I’m going on up there and taking on the challenge.

[@sebastianemond5313]

14:36 Dumb, indeed, little Seuss fish. 🎵Dumb, dumb, dumb.🎵

[@sadlobster1]

Can't wait to see you guys react to Samurai Jack Vs. Afro Samurai

[@M644theawesome]

I know this is somewhat off topic but when you talk about the music part near the end, I just kept thinking about how Vinny from Vinesauce got his music done and such

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

10:05 someone tell Disney that, you can’t make fun of your own stuff and not do anything to change them.

[@an_oracle]

I get like irrationally annoyed when Micah misses a nostalgia critic, not at you guys but more at fate like "Dammit why this one!?"

[@damoncade7659]

14:40 That's also me when I saw that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😅

[@summerrose8110]

The Grinch is awesome, how dare you?!

[@Clambamthankyoumam]

Agreed! The 1966 animated original How The Grinch Stole Christmas movie is solid gold.

[@drakeware655]

"Not much rhymes with orange." Slam their heads against the door hinge?

[@darkdeathlord1102]

HELL YES I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO TO COME OUT, *runs around in circles* And Clinton's STILL here since when is Christmas being moved

[@MegaUmi]

Atleast they NOW have production vallues and arent torturing theyre staff like they used to

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

??

[@futuremovieactor]

A part of me really wanted to see this one done even though it's not one of the first ones I would have named.

[@SuperMandibleclaw]

When are we going to get a Dr Seuss adaptation that doesn't suck?

[@willb.history4210]

Honestly, I optimistic about The Grinch.

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

hopefully the grinch does well

[@pundertalefan4391]

Fingers Crossed for the Grinch 2018.

[@kylemorello4787]

SuperMandibleclaw we already did. It's called Horton hears a who.

[@nikomiyozo8671]

Anyone going to forget about the 2d animated sues films cause I love them.

[@slashermaster28]

There is one point in this review that, while very brief, I do need to address. The film's director had nothing to do with those commercials he brings up, most notably the 'hypocritical' car ad. A little known fact is that directors typically have little to no say in how their films are advertised. I'm just saying it's a little unfair for so many people to use that as a point against the film.

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

But still, don't you think the marketing people should *see* the film they're advertising, so as not to send mixed messages?

[@AneonAnon]

I have a bad memory with this movie. When i was in elementary school school and this was playing in a class i was doing busy work in(not my actual class becuse i was in trouble) and kids kept saying i was watching this movie (when i never turned around) when i was drawing instead becuse my work was done. So i got into more trouble and got my drawings shreaded

[@ffjreviews9029]

The Grinch 2018 movie was also pretty much passable.

[@Asfian11]

Yeah, cause it did the bare minimum 😂

[@ffjreviews9029]

Asfian11 yeah, but it at least was watchable, unlike Jim Carrey Grinch or Cat in the Hat

[@Punykirby]

The two good things to come out of this movie: Danny DeVito and Betty White

[@ECL28E]

I still see this as the WORST of the Seuss adaptations. Worse than Cat in the Hat. Cat in the Hat is a monstrously bad, unfunny movie; but it kept to its message. "Sometimes a little fun and rule-breaking is okay, as long as it doesn't go too far". It doesn't contradict itself; but pads itself with unfunny sketches and unneeded adult-jokes The Lorax fucks up its own message from the word, go. It claims to be about saving the trees; but everything about this movie contradicts that.

[@sammyt7981]

13:10 Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Helllllllllllllll Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@paperfox19]

something that always bothered me even in the original tale and cartoon was the guys excuses, the lorax comes to him time and again warning him and showing him the damage he's causing, he makes an excuse, after excuse, what about my workers and their families. The lorax claims he doesn't have an answer but at the end the last tree falls anyway and the business died all the excuses meant nothing he doomed both nature and the people. Just a fool making excuses and ignoring the problems and the many solutions to them

[@djstockt326]

7:00 Hogarth Goldthwait

[@RavenStory71123]

Every time I hear the story of the Lorax I just think that the onceler didn’t know the first thing about natural resources, especially trees, cause if he just, replanted trees whenever he cut one down the forest wouldn’t have been completely destroyed. I know they take years to grow but come on son.

[@thetalkingstick9214]

Although I’d say the Charle and the Chocolate factory was an obviously worse film than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, Charle’s was an objectively better retelling of book by Roald Dahl. So when it comes to Hollywood bastardizing a book, Willy Wonka is the one bastardizing the book, like they didn’t even use the same name as the book and changed it, which is the most Hollywood thing ever, like Roald Dahl himself didn’t like the movie at all, it grew on him a bit later noting it having some “good qualities” but he still “didn’t like it”, mostly because he wrote a 300 page script for them and they basically ignored it and his recommendations. While with Charle, the directors asked for his family’s input with every step of the film, as to not get it wrong and be respectful to the source material.

[@diminie_chimket]

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is obviously worse? No it isn't, not for me and a lot of other people. I'd say, just cus you don't like the movie, doesn't mean that it's a bad movie. That's just rude to the people who like it, like me.

[@futuremovieactor]

Ben, flying terrifies me too.

[@mattnorth643]

I love the original lorax this feels like another soulless cast grab

[@Jarod-sm5rf]

This is one of Doug’s best reviews.

[@austinmorrison6953]

Look up the song “biggering.” It’s the beta version of “How Bad can I Be?” And it’s a lot better. Would it have saved the movie? Hell no! But it would’ve saved the Oncler as a character. Instead of being dated hipster vomit the song would’ve made him human.

[@akumavinsmoke9608]

You guys should check out the cross over between nostalgia critic and cinemasins (cinema sins the Grinch) PLEASE

[@HighPriestPlays]

...Has Ben heard of the Dark Science webcomic? Because Bens dead Author generator is literally from the first page of that.