Reni Eddo-Lodge on race, social injustice and quotas

[@osasueo]

It’s shocking - but not surprising - that there is such a level of hatred and racist bile towards someone who is telling unvarnished truths that the British society, as a whole, needs to hear and ponder. Why is there such a visceral hatred of the truth?

[@jeablumkafee2703]

Imagine white people coming to Nigeria and calling them racist because 50% of the folks on TV aren't white when whites are only 10% of the population.

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

RACISM is refusing to talk to people because of the colour of their skin!

[@saulwest8254]

Eternal victim hood at its finest. Where would she be without her social crutch to lean on.

[@Debbie-Muls]

jeablum kafee but has there been the exact quota demand you’re using hypothetically to mock truthful logistics? “ ...50% of a certain pigmentation of the HUMAN race to be demanded on TV!!!” Or do you need to phrase things differently. Please. We are all human but let’s not get egoistical and let’s be truly conducive for all. My fellow humans are hurting and that hurts and annoys society’s soul so how can we stop this as best as we can? But thanks for your comment sir.

[@SabatSch95]

Except for the fact that basically nothing of what she says is true, and she uses her platform for no other reason than to justify and spread her unwarranted racial outrage.

[@inspirationalpostbyleverso6263]

Absolutely, white people don't enjoy talking about race because they have never had to, the more we keep on the better it will be, because race is always there.

[@imnotgayyy8489]

@White Ness go on.... More details pl

[@jo18533]

'Absolutely, white people don't enjoy talking about race because they have never had to' Absurd statement.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

In my experience white people talk about ethnicity all the time. The first question you usually get is about your family and then we trade stories of foods and customs and the diversity amongst white people is enormous. I do believe that lumping us all together and not realising how we have to learn each other just as much as anyone else is a BIG part of the defensiveness that arises when race, as in black and white, comes up. I am white and live now in a primarily white culture that is so alien to my own that, for too many years, it has exhausted me. My own ex-husband turned out to despise everything about me, which are all the things that a person of my background would be. But his intolerance of that was suffocating and excruciating in every way. And we are both white skinned people. With two children who are torn between what we are and what we aren't.

[@nzilakongo1165]

Great lady and great book - don't let the barbaric haters distract you.

[@j2daart224]

Kenatu Nzinga Kongo exactly. Simple-mind idiots

[@oksanafolland5576]

no, not really

[@SubscribersWithoutAnySubscribe]

Lol, 'barbaric' non-racialists with their damn tolerance and egalitarianism.

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

Mukonga- She is not great. She is a vile hatemonger.

[@francissfukbuddy8457]

I am a POC who completely disagrees with Reni's perspective. According to her book, this makes me white. What nonsense.

[@applesugar2051]

You have a lot of white supremacy to unlearn.

[@jaspalchanna1049]

@@applesugar2051 Hahaha, and you have a lot of woke unscientific lunacy to unlearn

[@riyadougla539]

@Golden Knight She is dividing us with nonsense like this. We are all British and proud.

[@francissfukbuddy8457]

@Nat Turner The length of time something has been in existence for doesn't equate to the degree to which it exists in society. There's way more woke-ists than white supremacists, and I'm glad for it. But the woke-ists are still wrong.

[@fontainehiggins3638]

YOU !!! are all """"""entitled"""" TO YOUR obsequious opinion. Clearly your not listening or just hearing your own clouded privileged view.

[@annecronin1616]

I did not understand racism / white privilege until I watched a video of Ms Jane Elliott. I have watched a few videos now of this lady. I was totally ignorant and still am learning. Yes, the videos made me feel very uncomfortable and very saddened. I am saddened also in that I cannot even talk to my family about racism - white privileged because of their own ignorance. They get very defensive. My only hope now is that my grandchildren’s generation will be different but we urgently need to change the educational system, how we are educated on history and geography.

[@annecronin1616]

Golden Knight so yourself a favour and go play with the traffic you nerd ...

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@Jeff Spicolli Where do lynch mobs and the KKK come into your framework?

[@lunalea1250]

Based on the response to ur comment, u can see why people get defensive of 'inconvenient truths'!

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@@lunalea1250 The problem is that my response was to someone else's who was a racism denier. So that is why I put it so bluntly. The person before me said: 'White privilege (advantages) exists but only insofar as it is the advantage or privilege one derives from living in a white majority country.' So that is why I put it the way that I did. I hope that clarifies things for you. I do not see racism or the discussion of it as 'inconvenient truths' at all. I see it with urgency and the NECESSITY to take it dead seriously of of utmost importance. That is why I understand the title of her book and it really grabbed me but I also feel that it woke in me even more of a sense of white responsibility not to allow ourselves or others to put it on the back burner as inconvenient or not immediate. As a kid, my mother gave me a button that said Speak Truth to Power because i was always a bit (!!!) confrontational about people avoiding elephants in the room. I have had other white people find me irritating because, as they argue that we are all coloured or whatever nonsense it is, I will not allow racism to be minimized like that. You would think the murder of George Floyd would have woken a few people up but I guess not. I hope I have been more clear here. I wish you all the best.

[@Worst_Infamous]

She is racist, you re all crazy

[@pfscpublic]

I bought and read Reni's WINLTTWPAB book and found it thought provoking, backed up by 16 pages of reference & bibliography material. Listening to Reni online and reading the comments below nicely illustrates her point. If you've not read WINLTTWPAB yet then do buy a copy and give it a fair go

[@pfscpublic]

@NPC O'Brien Can you give me an example of what you mean NPC, a chapter reference and I'll read it again.

[@pfscpublic]

@Golden Knight A chapter, a reference, a page number Golden? Put your money where your mouth is and I'll genuinely re-read it with an open mind for your challenge. I'll make a wild guess you haven't read it tho'.

[@francissfukbuddy8457]

I did the same. It's a terrible book. Massive flaws in reasons. Bases a lot of beliefs on anecdotes. Often uses stats in an overly simplistic way. Contradicts itself with lines of reasoning. And redefines terms so that crazy things seem reasonable, but in reality they're still crazy. Happy to give evidence of all of this.

[@pfscpublic]

@@francissfukbuddy8457 can you give an example Francis and its page ref. & I'll re-read it

[@barzinlotfabadi]

@@francissfukbuddy8457 Maybe you should write a book as an erudite critique and publish it? Or link us to the video where you talk about why she's wrong.

[@FoolSofa]

Why does Krishnan start off by calling Reni angry? Man needs to read the book.

[@mariamalkadri4202]

very true

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

The book title is ANGRY. The whole thing is hysterical middle-class psychodrama.

[@FoolSofa]

J D M not gonna lie, I found myself thinking that at various points and really struggled with that narrative. I couldn’t figure out if I was opposed to her frankness or if I thought she was paranoid. Now I’m just practicing as many of my day to day actions through a someone else’s shoes lens. I believe in the good of humanity but I also know that I have developed my own classification systems and these are more often than not, wrong, prejudiced and detrimental to us as a social species.

[@esthermeya7090]

@@NothingHumanisAlientoMe How. This stereotype of black women is sickening.

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

@@esthermeya7090 Is that what I am doing?

[@pfscpublic]

Very interesting to listen to, I'm a white London male, so will probably have to buy your book now to ponder this. Brexit has unleashed a floodgate of racism, so it's time to think about this again and where it is coming from.

[@007Fusiion]

Bro, Brexit may have opened a floodgate, but dams have been busting all year round. You just live (mentally) somewhere you aren't affected by them.

[@JS-it3dx]

this better be sarcasm

[@pfscpublic]

@@007Fusiion Yes, that's why I moved to London, I feel more comfortable amongst people who don't give a damn about melanin. Where do you live that it's a big deal John?

[@007Fusiion]

Paul C Like Reni and you, I’m from London. But..there’s probably a reason why we experience London differently to you. I accept your experience is your own though.

[@pfscpublic]

@@007Fusiion which part of London John is "affecting" you so much? Do tell.

[@knockedoutloaded]

She doesn't even know how the triangular slave trade worked. In her book she claims that 1.5 million slaves passed through British ports which couldn't be more inaccurate if she tried. It was completely the opposite. She got so much wrong it's not even funny

[@Geoffrey454]

Children aren't colour blind and naturally absorb the biases which are around them

[@nizzla12]

People, all people are innately tribal. It's natural.

[@LadyJoolree]

I can certainly relate at 24:00, especially as a black female classical violinist. Doesn’t mean I don’t also listen to other types of music, but getting asked why I play ‘dead white people’s music’ really annoys me!

[@tara34952]

Anyone who says that to you is just blinkered and blinded by their own silly prejudice. It's sad because they are the ones missing out. I hope you'll keep playing and performing whatever music you like!

[@SabatSch95]

It's funny... WHO is telling you or other blacks these things? We all know it's OTHER BLACKS.

[@SabatSch95]

Also, classical music is objectively the best & most complex music ever composed & it's not even a close call. The real question is, why SHOULDN'T you play it?

[@Amanojaku8]

@@SabatSch95 Nah, nothing is "objective" when it comes to art. But if you want to labour that point, surely complexity/difficulty would be factors and if that's the case the most "objective" and "complex" music would be jazz as you are literally composing on the fly.

[@SabatSch95]

@@Amanojaku8 You have no clue what you're talking about. There's a very clear objective difference in technical skill & complexity when it comes to classical music, just like Ballet for example is by far considered the most difficult dance to perform by anyone with a shred of credibility. If you want to make the argument that people are allowed to "subjectively" prefer generic rap music for example, go ahead. I don't care. But don't tell me it's "just my opinion" that playing Rach's 3rd is indescribably more difficult to perform (never mind compose). Also, Jazz doesn't even come fucking close to the technical prowess required to play the great classical compositions of Liszt, Rach, Chopin or Bach. Jesus Christ man... Also, the idea that Jazz musicians simply make up all the music on the spot is a myth not grounded in reality whatsoever. Sure, improv is often involved, but the major themes or motifs are *ALWAYS* discussed beforehand if we're talking about band play, and if it isn't, the music is never complex. In terms of solos, it's basically the same. And if you're going to make the point that improv defacto proves the greatest skill, then why don't you apply the same logic to classical musicians, who use improv ALL the freaking time? Nah mate... Your average jazz player will do very poorly in the classical world, but the average classical musician has a lot more options. Give me one Jazz piece that's more difficult to play than Hungarian Rhapsodies or Transcendental Etudes. Just one. Good luck, cause it doesn't exist. Why? B/c as I said, classical music is by far, objectively the most difficult & complex music one could play. Period. And that's not a diss against Jazz or any other type of music for that matter. But let's stop pretending that skill is subjective & that other genres are "as hard or harder" to play. That's just not true, I'm sorry. Lastly, Jazz wouldn't even exist if it weren't for classical music so your argument doesn't even make any sense.

[@mattsniper362]

She is clearly very very conscious of the fact she is black and therefore views the world and her interactions through a racial lens. For example, if someone treats her badly she will balame it on racism. It’s an easy scapegoat because on the one hand, it gives you something to blame if you don’t succeed, but on the other hand, if you do succeed it acts like an ego boost as you can say you succeeded in spite of racism. I don’t understand what obstacles she’s faced? She’s a succcessufl author who is literally profiting a lot of money from the fact that she asserts racism exists.

[@tonycaribbian]

There is no dispute just look at your history, it’s like asking are there any Germans who don’t like Jews

[@Doomedcreatures]

I wish there was more talk about race and class, in my office its totally mixed, but everyone's from a very middle class background. I feel like people are too afraid to talk about race and class together.

[@LadyCharity]

How can there be a talk about two different issues if there cannot be talk about race itself? Let's not conflate the issues without getting clear on one issue at hand...

[@ZTGWrestling]

Keep Your Crown no issue should be minimised we should talk about race but that doesn’t mean we should not talk about other topics like gender, sexuality, class, religion etc

[@ZTGWrestling]

@@davidwilliams454 goodie to shoes

[@charliecatesby3346]

Why would it need to be discussed? Unless it was part of the job.

[@zeenuf00]

"I feel like people are too afraid to talk about race and class together." Because people are afraid they'll lose their jobs or be socially ostracized if they don't agree with the intersectional left's racial paradigm. It's not hard to figure out. People who don't agree with that paradigm will tell you privately - if they're confident you won't snitch them out.

[@johntowler4928]

She lost me at the point that goes "using stairs makes you complicit in disable-ism". This is bad intellectualism. So abstract and lacking in common sense. She started to win me back when she was sceptical about quotas.

[@QuatMan]

She was expressing empathy towards disabled people by stepping out of herself.

[@johntowler4928]

Her motivations may well be empathic, but it's simply not true as a matter of fact that using stairs makes you complicit in disable-ism. She's wrong about that point. It's over-reach, and this over-reach and lazy thinking is present in a lot of social justice rhetoric. :)

[@QuatMan]

@@johntowler4928 She didnt say that using stairs makes you complicit. She was simply sharing that she had been unconscious of a priviledge she had and had a moment of empathetic consciousness about being able to do something that lots of others cannot do. It's interesting that her expressing her own empathy towards disabled people would get you so bent out of shape. It is an overreach for YOU ( you probably like to believe that you dont have any privileges in life so that you can pretend that they dont exist at any time for anyone anywhere under any circumstances.). It is not for everyone, including her. Some people unnecessarily take people's personal accounts about their experiences as a personal attack. Wonder why that is...

[@squeakysoliloquy83]

How dare you walk around using those legs said the paraplegic

[@Esi153]

What a Brilliant young lady.

[@straighttalking2090]

She talks about the importance of research 9:09 but 'Why I'm No Longer Talking To White People' clearly shows she certainly did not thoroughly apply that to that book. A few commenters here have already pointed the glaring error she made when she wrote that one and a half million slaves passed through Liverpool docks. At 9:38 she turns a non sequitur anecdote into something like evidence [in her mind] of racism when _"a white person with similar qualifications and experience got the job"_ I stopped watching the video at that point. I believe _she believes_ she did do good research and that is what makes her product dangerous and is evidence of her bias.

[@stephenobisanya]

Genuinely shocked about the amount of comments in disagreement with her. Only drives her point home.

[@saulwest8254]

You're shocked that no one is placating her sense of victim hood?

[@robokill387]

the reason people disagree with her is that she's wrong, and is pedaling a bunch of BAAWWW victimhood BS.

[@Kashi86]

Exactly!!! Most of these people haven't even read the book smh..

[@Erin_Bee]

The negative comments about the author and the books concept are hilarious. It’s as if white people don’t understand the system they created.

[@dorcaswhitaker8746]

Erin Bailey White people understand the system they created. But, they also understand and appreciate the privileges that it offers. Therefore, they pretend not to understand as a means of deflection. Remember, they are suppose to be HIGH IQ. Even low IQ have no problem grasping the concept - why get rid of things that benefit ME?

[@rahulkemp8347]

"white people". ALL of them? Even amy's winehouse?

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

As if? No, that is the fact. And then they say we did not create this; it was done 200 years ago but it still informs the structure of our cognitive frameworks and society. But there's a reason she has given up trying. Until people HAVE to, they aren't going to develop that framework to include other perspectives. That's where the idea of white power and privilege come in. If we don't HAVE to engage or resolve the problem, it is because we have the privilege not to. I am white btw but I live in a place where I am by definition an 'other', 'outsider' and I completely understand why she is fed up. There is no point in trying to get through to a cognitive void because its a VOID!!!!! So now what,,,,? I am listening and I care and I miss being able to mention different perspectives without seeing a room full of blank faces!!!!!!! And I think that if I hear 'the race card' or similar idiocies anymore, my head might explode. There is no point if someone's defenses push you out. I know that. But now where do we go?

[@deanerhockings-reptilianhu8701]

Changing hearts and minds by writing a book called "Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race". It's just begging racists of all stripes to double down on their positions.

[@matthewgibbons4525]

Deaner Hockings - Reptilian Hunter so true. Perpetuating divisions

[@Cece76542]

Have either of you read the book or is this just another excuse to dismiss a black persons thoughts?

[@HMarsh-zg9ct]

Yes, the assholes will keep finding excuses to be assholes. Other people who aren't so committed to willful ignorance might just actually read the book.

[@noseyparker2634]

Just proving her point for her. I’m sure she’ll collate these hate filled dismissive comments and use in her next book!

[@GEOFF0906]

@@Cece76542 Lots of untruths in the book

[@Diana-gq4qr]

Tara Gorm you will not ever know what it is to be harassed while shopping. Deflection is your friend.

[@stuartcrossland1746]

Funny how Channel 4 dont post videos on the Skripal case,and if they do to disable the comments. hmmm.

[@graceboyce4912]

Arn't Asians racist and discriminate against black people have that's been my experience and many others.

[@fiat2496]

Without racism this woman wouldn't have such a great career.

[@michaelwhite8031]

So many facts in it are wrong e.g. about the triangular slave trade and Liverpool.

[@graemebooth4007]

I'm glad people hesitate when discussing quotas. You don't fix one set of percieved instituational forms of racism by implementing a whole other kind of institutional racism. Wrap bigotry in a nice package of inclusive language if you like but I'm not in for that world view.

[@chrisyb9614]

She didn’t articulate her arguments very well, she seems a little bit socially awkward. I understand what she is trying to say. All these commenter talking about race baiting, come across as the type of people who believe that if you turn your back to a house which is on fire, it will magically stop burning.

[@black76561]

Chrisy B i think she did articulate her points but became quite frustrated with Krishna's line of questioning. journalist to journalist they both know what the underlying context is but i feel krisna almost wants reni to admit to some kind of right wing tone. if that makes sense. Additionally i dont think she's an experienced confident public speaker. There's a way to deliver your message without showing your frustrations...i hope this makes sense. Refreshingly podcast.

[@DiogoMarquesAwesome]

I'm thinking of moving to Angola or Nigeria, because I heard that that is the place where the natives embrace white peopple like themselves. I predict a pretty fantastic time for me

[@OfftoShambala]

It would be great if you did go there and document your experience on KZbin and blog.

[@007Fusiion]

I will pay for your one way ticket.

[@OhMaDayzz]

You heard right. White people do have it pretty good there, particularly in Angola.

[@idesireit31]

You can go pretty much anywhere and have a great time . White privilege

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Many African cultures are community centred in a way that Western cultures are not. You needn't go so far as Angola to find this. Find your nearest Nigerian or other African community and they will welcome you.

[@kobii1]

Breaking News: Stairs are an injustice to the plight of the disabled.

[@bryanpatrickmchugh]

These people have gone utterly mad!

[@Space_Wanderer__]

She needs to learn how to properly articulate her points. You can see clear race baiting in this interview

[@ActuallyDoubleGuitars]

How come you don't understand the concept of analogy?

[@stephenowen3383]

I mean it is unfair, unless you have lifts, or ramps.

[@jamesmeow3039]

Not a great example because stairs and no disabled access is a serious hinderonce to disabled people and their real opportunities in life.

[@wobblybobengland]

Nobody needs this person to exist, has this ever embraced that philosophical perspective?

[@pablodominguez4942]

Her argument against meritocracy is very vague and broad brushed. When people get hired for certain positions they have to meet qualifications. It's incredibly patronizing and systematically degrading for me to be hired for a position because I'm a first generation Mexican American. Quotas are racist garbage.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Well, there are so many factors involved in hiring that have nothing to do with what is on paper that the issue is really are you the right fit for this particular ecosystem? I have done hiring and in one small, delicate ecosystem I vehemently opposed hiring the person with the most educational qualifications because he had the inter-personal skills of pure negativity, which might work in a larger company that could absorb it but not in the small one I was dealing with at that time. We ended up hiring the person least qualified on paper but most qualified for the environment and due to her other interests that were relevant to our needs. She was delighted about that. Social skills are highly important to employability as are diversity skills, which have become a staple of almost all MBAs.

[@igorknown8608]

her book is the best I've read lately - well done ✊🏼

[@fcrn748]

You must not read much. I can recommend you something for people with a brain if you would like ?

[@Kashi86]

I agree, it was a great book.. A lot of white supremacists seem to be triggered lol, how amusing

[@daniellove162]

Writs a book proclaiming she’s not talking about race in order to get platformed to talk about race. Cooool.

[@amy3667]

Have you even read the book?

[@africaconscientious610]

Have you actually read the book 😂😂? Or are you just a little snowflake because your Whiteness is being discussed

[@wingaard]

@@africaconscientious610 nice racist comment, idiot!

[@Drehgab]

She is amazing, I must read this book! 🙌🏾

[@Craig23McDonald]

Have you read the book and what are your thoughts?

[@francissfukbuddy8457]

@@Craig23McDonald I have read the book. It's terrible. Look at the most helpful reviews on Amazon to get a taste of why.

[@tat007]

Save your money, it's riddled with inaccuracy and falsehood.

[@mars10115]

I hope you read it. It’s informative and relatable for me so was comforting.

[@RolandBizjets]

Don’t pretend to be a victim. It’s normal that employers prefer to choose someone with native name/surname. It gives them more comfort and reassures them that people will get along with other workers much faster and better than someone with a different background. Don’t judge me, I am coming from Northern Europe, living now in the UK, facing same issue. And I am WHITE. See? It’s NOT racism. Stop calling everything racist please.

[@lunalea1250]

Ur validation her point by assuming 'others' wouldnt get along and 'fit in'!

[@alexbowman7582]

Unfortunately ever since the 1970’s almost all the ..isms have been banned except gingerism. All ginger people look the same to me.

[@riyadougla539]

Gingerism is alive and kicking!

[@mansnotbot4160]

Only a ginger can call another ginger 'ginger', just like only a ninja can sneek up on another ninja.

[@imnotgayyy8489]

Prince Harry?

[@wingaard]

Oh dear, the victim alarm has gone off.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Thank God I found this space and I want to thank the author for writing the book!!!!! I haven't even read it yet but the title immediately spoke to the part of my brain that controls buying books I must have. The dilemma is that I am a Caucasian woman, originally from New York where the nuanced skill of engaging with diversity just starts at birth. I guess I never thought about it otherwise until I married a man (now ex) and we (for academic reasons) moved to Ireland. I was 27 then and I fully expected this to be temporary. We had come down from Belfast where engaging with diversity and the nuanced skills required is basic life. So, a few years into being here.... there is so much that happened I can't write it all.... For the first few years I tried to get used to people harshly asking me 'Are you foreign?' Well, yes I am. 'Oh', they would say 'you're not.' But I am. But that's not what they meant. Is this confusing or what? People said I was 'swarthy', which is a colour tone I associate with people from Pakistan or India etc. Okay, my grandmother was Sicilian but, for the most part, my family is English. And I am the pale one of the family. Very slowly over time asylum seekers began to arrive here for the first time in history. I mean, let's keep in mind that I was the equivalent of the local black man and then actual black men from Angola etc appeared. The first time I ever relaxed and had an engaged conversation about homesickness for something or place that is no longer there, was with a man from Angola when I worked as a lawyer with asylum seekers. The number one thing people asked me there, as soon as they realised I was not local, was Is there any way we could at least be transferred to Dublin? People with horrific PTSD and coming out of terror and violence, arrived here and though they weren't in the midst of violent social implosion, they had to suffer something that does as much harm: isolation and disconnection. I won't generalise, but in my experience, Africans tend to value community as a life essential. As do i, even though I hadn't realised that until I came here. Twenty years later the levels of diversity are much more commonplace but those of us who are 'not from here' tend to be ghettoised socially. People can 'befriend' us but it is all about their cognitive framework and if we bring up our own, we won't get a word in, and if we press the issue, we come mack up against the brick wall of their defenses or, as I see it, cognitive void. I have heard people say things and seen people act in ways that are so racist my heart stops and yet they literally cannot comprehend that and, once again, I am a problem. I knew a woman here who is a Miami Cuban, 2nd generation, and one day just as my head was about to pop off she leaned very gently to my ear and said: 'We call them White People.' SLAM!!!!!!!!! Is this what you have all been dealing with for so long? How do you deal with it? How how how became my constant question. I started reading Malcolm X and am still waiting for the right moment to use certain quotes. I turned toward my own fellow Americans, African-Americans to hear every word they could express that might lead me to peace. No Justice No Peace. That is just basic math. But even as a kid I remember asking African-Americans around me 'What is this like for you?' It could be anything. Someone told me once that asking was offensive but I never found that anyone took umbrage that I asked. Why would they? We need to ask. I apologise for this novel length message. I just really wanted to say that I feel urgently concerned that this author has come to feel she just has to stop talking about race with white people anymore. I totally understand why she would feel that way and I don't know if there is any way to overcome cognitive void other than experiencing cognitive diversity from the earliest stages of neuronal development. I am interested in other perspectives and it is good that I was a full adult before I learned that sooooo many people just do not have that awareness or interest at all. I mean they haven't the capacity, which is not an excuse for them. I traveled home to NYC just before Covid and again immersed myself in the phenomenal tapestry of human diversity. I was like someone fresh out of a desert and I wanted to stop every POC I saw and ask How. How do you survive this? I also have a son, now 25 and every time he walked out the door I feared for him in this place and that made me think of all the black mothers in my own country and in the world and the fear they have to live with every time one of their family members walks out the door. Maybe there is some purpose to this. Maybe God wants me to learn this. But I cannot help but feel, in my deepest viscera, the urgent need to finally get home where reaching out and welcoming each other is the point of existence. I want to hear what she has to say and I know I need to learn and keep learning forever. I welcome it and I just wanted to say that because we are still in a world where people say things like 'the race card' and 'aren't we ALL coloured?' Thank you to anyone who read all of this.

[@xsarchitect]

Jesus H Christ, so you have a defective gene. That's all.

[@michaelnedsmar9106]

Why is it that in the UK where there are around 5% black that racism solely falls on the shoulders of black people ? Is it racist for me to ask why we do not see black people write books on other subjects,astrology or astronomy, space ,quantum physics? As a British white person i think its time that Asians should write more books on Racism. how about an Asian history month? Or a Jewish history month? Theres good and bad in all but cant help but think racism directed towards black racism it partly bought on by themselves, blaming their shortfalls on their life style, Turning villains like Floyd and Kabber into superheros Lets look British Indians or Chinese ,who as a couple will have kids, they will make sure the kids go to school, make them do their homework . instead of being a nuisance hanging around takeaways selling bits of weed carry knifes or go round killing each other. The kids will leave school with 3 straight A,s and quite often go to Uni, study dam hard and get dream jobs, then once established will marry and have kids of their own .

[@James-iz9qb]

The way to combat this kind of corosive thinking is to ask: 1. What, precisely, is the problem you are talking about? Precise means actual real events or reliable data interpreted correctly. 2. What, precisely, do you intend to do about it and what is the intended outcome? Unless these questions are actually addressed all that is happening is a useless display of individual emotion which has no part in political discourse. For example, she makes a reasonable point about CV's receiving differential treatment based on names. But she then generalises points like this to a much broader claim about a fundamentally corrupt and 'structurally racist' society which is just meaningless. With CV's we might try to introduce legislation demanding that information that may reveal a person's ethnic background is screened out. Every reasonable and non racist person (which is the vast vast majority of our apparently 'racist' society) would be on board with such things. If people were able to just state practical problems and suggested solutions rather than make vague and emotional arguments often constructed to attack and inspire guilt we might get somewhere.

[@jannerick2]

Have you gone to the effort of reading her book, out of curiosity?

[@James-iz9qb]

@@jannerick2 I have read a few small sub sections to get a sense of its style. It seems to fail pretty drastically in the ways I've mentioned. It is, however a lot less bad than other books I have seen in a similar vein.

[@jannerick2]

@@James-iz9qb OK, thanks for the feedback, but I'll get my reviews from people who've given it a fair chance.

[@James-iz9qb]

@@jannerick2 Just because I have an opinion you don't like it must obviously mean I haven't given it a 'fair chance'. The title alone is reprehensible enough that she should be grateful anyone gives her any time beyond that

[@jannerick2]

@@James-iz9qb you said yourself you'd read snippets, so even by your own admission you haven't given it a thorough reading. But to be honest, I was more disagreeing with your assertion that the book is worthless if it cannot suggest lots of policy solutions.

[@Generalscorpio]

I typically land somewhere on the political right but I read her book and understood a few things a little bit better, I can't say I agree with her on everything and some of the things she claims to want aren't articulated very well when they're introduced on the public stage so I'm not 100% certain that her representation is entirely accurate (although we all know what the mainstream media is like so who knows), but it was definitely interesting to read her perspective.

Just bc you're unable to comprehend or process what she's says your fragile ego allows you to say that she hasn't articulated herself well, wow. This woman is extremely intelligent and articulates herself very clearly. I understood and thoroughly comprehend her views. Please shut those thin pale lifeless lips when you're in the presence of, or have the honor of listening to intelligent black people. Moron

[@madiba4ever210]

Aisha Well said. Everyone hates the manipulative idiot pretending to be dumb.

@Essence Knight @Essence Knight Reading comprehension is key idiot, where in my comment did I say I agree with everything she said. I stated she articulated be herself very intellgently and clearly and I thoroughly comprehend her views. Also, if you do agree with everything someone says that equals... 'you're a sheep'. Please do us a favor and Shut the f##k up thanks.

[@francissfukbuddy8457]

I read the book too. It is massively flawed. Very superficial look at the data. Flaws in reasoning. Contradicts itself.

[@francissfukbuddy8457]

Im am a "POC" too, not that it should matter

[@johnmiller6731]

Why I no longer feel like talking to humans .

[@theodorbrinch]

I don't think its unreasonable for some people to be concerned for the shrinking size of the the cultural and ethnic majority of their country. Those are some of the things that define your national identity. I think to call it "fear of a black planet" assumes its only racism. I think its way more to do with cultural identity. Cultures throughout time have battled. Culture is literally the thing that holds tribes together and keeps people from fighting with each other.

[@theodorbrinch]

And then to go on and say that culturally and ethnically "Native" people should allow this, because their country also tried to expand and take over the word 100's of years ago. This was the way of the world back then. There has never been a justified empire, but we can't hold them all to account 100's of years later and ask individuals in the same country to repay what the empire took. how would you even calculate that?

[@noseyparker2634]

It’s values that hold people together not culture. We are here because they were there. Nothing is without consequences and the fear you mention is a consequence of slavery and colonialism. Invited consequences

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Oh, have you read Sebastian Junger's book on this? It is brilliant. It is called 'Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging',

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@@noseyparker2634 I like your name. But your first sentence is so true. Well stated comment all around.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

I have now listened to this and I think it is a very badly done interview. The author tends to retreat into vagueness when asked a direct question and that doesn't come across well. When she describes the earlier radio discussion where she brought up racism she really gets vague, lots of half sentences and nothing specific. First of all if the discussion is sexism, you have a certain time limit on air to address the stated issue. So, it is inappropriate and turns the entire discussion into a blurry mess to suddenly bring up other, though equally valid, subjects or issues. If we are set to discuss depression and I suddenly raise veganism, it will throw everything into a turmoil where, in the end, nothing gets across, least of all the message that was intended. She makes vague references to how another woman said things about her but again, we cannot judge if they are racist or due to the subject at hand being derailed. Stairs are not an injustice. The lack of more ramps is. Then there is some reference to a housemate she had at uni but what exactly is the relevance of this and what occurred to make it pivotal in her developing state of mind? It's all over the place and that is unfortunate. When she says she hates when, as an author of her book, people come up to talk with her and she is thinking 'This isn't going to go my way so I just want out of here', the lawyer in me just collapsed in a heap. This isn't going my way? Welcome to the challenges of having to make a cogent argument that will have an immediate impact on peoples' lives. There may be a reason it isn't going your way, in which case, adjust rather than back out, especially if it is during book tour or such. I am very glad she wrote this book and love the title as I have already said. I think I will watch another interview of her and give it a better chance to be articulated better.

[@iang-lb7nx]

I'm sorry but just because someone who was white with similar qualifications got the job over her does not automatically mean racism. It may well be racism, but it may not, I'd need some solid proof on that one before making presumptions.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Yes, I was poorer than the church mouse when I studied in New York years ago. My sister and I basically raised ourselves n boxes of donated food from the church (imagine tinned potatoes. WTF?). I got into an internship programme and one day I realised everyone was staring at me. I was ravenously hungry as usual and the girl across from me had a sandwich she wasn't devouring and every nerve and fiber in my body was focused on that food. I looked up and realised I was being attacked by the person next to me, a black student in the most amazingly warm down coat I have ever seen. It was even red. I look great in red. It was a New York city winter, which is like your hands will break if you bend your fingers from the cold. All I had was a thin jacket and I was so sick of all the times people said to me: 'You must love the cold. How can you live in just that thin jacket?' Oh, sure, we all just love to be frozen half to death all the time. Not to mention the hunger. She was being really vicious and accusing me of being privileged. There was a scholarship she had wanted and didn't get. I had nothing to do with that and no one knew who did get it. I surely didn't. I didn't even know about it. She fixated on me and i don't think I ever said more than 3 words to her, very politely the day we were introduced. Everyone knew she kept going to our supervisor and asking to have me removed from the programme. For what? She never even spoke to me or knew the first thing about me. And I honestly do not think it would have made any difference. But that is not about her being black. It is about her being unjust at very least.

[@lunalea1250]

By u 'wanting to see proof' is validating what she is saying, most people get jobs because of who they know, this is from nepotism, cronyism and the good old white network!

[@iang-lb7nx]

@Luna Lea You are going to need to show me solid proof if you're going to scream "White network". Can you imagine a judge in court saying by asking for evidence you're just validating what she saying. Can you imagine? Scientists don't just make claims and demand you believe them. They have to provide evidence to support that claim. That's how society works. It's tge only way it can work without descending into totalitarian madness.

[@lunalea1250]

@@iang-lb7nx Won't even read it, it's well documented, known facts, so no need to show u anything, it's not my job to 'educate ' u on race, racism or racial issues!

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@@iang-lb7nx Hi. I think you sent this to the wrong person because I totally agree with you. In my comment I told the story of the time when I was a 'poorer than the church mouse' student and a fellow (yes, black) student suddenly started to attack me verbally out of the blue because she hadn't got a scholarship she had wanted. I had not known of it so it's not as if I received it either or that I somehow conspired to take it from her. I wanted to like this interview and maybe learn from it but she was all over the place and so vague that I began to wonder if she had a tendency to tell only half a story (her own) and then make it about colour rather than maybe something personal. Again, you replied to perfection and I completely agree with you.

[@emmanuellajagha6370]

Majority of young people are fairly accepting what with migration and intergration. However, youth can be racist, mainly because the older generation may have a hold over their mentality.The older generation and far-right are the ones influencing youth too, especially with terrorism looming and illegal immigrants.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Have you met this generation? I have two kids. One is now 25 and the other 18. We don't influence them no matter what! Of course, I am Gen X and my parents got the most out of the 60s so by now, young people decide who or what they are and screw you. My daughter (18), the family cynic, calls this 'aesthetics' with an acid tongue. I think she is right. Without some thing to define us and set us apart with the advantage of victim hood always at our disposal, we are bare naked vulnerable human beings. Or Buddhists. Identity as a defense mechanism. I did my thesis on that. No wonder she turned out this way.

[@JusLivinAXA]

Its amazing how so many white people love the world as it is, when the tables flip and they soon will, i hope we are exactly like yall!

[@saulwest8254]

Tables are unlikely to flip as long as white innovation and ingenuity are prevalent.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

You know, I was thinking that since I have been away from my home in New York for sooooooo long. Right before Covid I traveled home with my two (now grown) brats (they were awful the whole time). But the number of times I found POC to be helpful, responsive when I needed help and just plain courteous really made me want to ask them all: How do you still have that basic decency in you? But I was grateful all the same. As I would have been to anyone.

[@Athirdofthem]

The white race is dying out, its slowly on the verge of extinction ​@@saulwest8254

[@malikrahman8649]

The comments on every single video of her is disabled. Surprise!! Why is she so angry that she's black, it's almost like she sees it as a disability.

[@IamBMM]

Krishnan Guru-Murthy dropped in my estimation. Very little enquiry and interjected his own ideas too often, as well as broad use of the term "white people". The discussion on quotas went nowhere. But if Cathy Newman can have success with C4, then it can't be difficult.

[@tara34952]

If white people are the main racial group you'd like to persuade to see your point of view then why give your book such an inflammatory and offensive title? It's divisive and alienating. The title tells me you've had to resort to race-baiting to get attention for your message, which is a sign of weakness and ultimately does more harm than good. Frankly I'm surprised the publisher has been allowed to get away with it. I'd love to see what happened if a white person tried to publish a book with the same title only with the work black substituted for white. The fallout would be astronomical and very telling. Surely you could have thought of a more balanced and inclusive title which would not have alienated and caused offence to such a large percentage of your target audience.

[@riyadougla539]

This is all about playing victim and wasting time.

[@hangulalukas2490]

@@riyadougla539 You guys use the word 'victim'' to override the offense. That very attitude is why the use of the title. I hope you see it.

[@hangulalukas2490]

She does mention in the very beginning that she did not mean it as inclinatory but, rather as sorrowful.

[@soniag8739]

She has every right to name her book whatever she wants. If it offends some people they dont have to pick it up and read. Telling someone to retitle their own work completely fails on all levels of reason

[@davt3899]

Good. I'd love if more people stopped talking to me about race.

[@Kashi86]

Of course you would

[@funkydanieluk]

So does she suffer any oppression that isn't just people disagreeing with her opinions?

[@roxiemcallister5808]

i mean its like you actively tried to not listen to her?

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

That's a good question. Well stated.

[@lucymooon]

Oh man, she's so awesome

[@no-oy6wq]

No she's a racist

[@lucymooon]

@@no-oy6wq Have you even read her book?

[@pinheadluke3136]

It's always the 'fresh out of uni' types with their half baked ideas. She probably hasn't worked a day in her life and attempts to call other people privileged.

[@Kashi86]

She also probably has a full time job and writes on the side.. I commend this women. A lot of white supremacists seem to be triggered about her book lol, snowflakes

[@GEOFF0906]

Reni Eddo lodge is often a stranger to the truth.

[@Banksystyle]

this woman is so naive positive discrimination is not going to help your group in the long run because you will forever depend on it , also you live in England the majority of the people in the UK are while Anglo Saxons so your "office" is always going to reflect that, its like going to china and complaining why the majority of the people in the office are Chinese or Japaneses or Arab or African, why isn't this woman complaining why in Nigeria the majority of the people in the office are black.

[@milopbrown3427]

I think the message was that the minority’s in England were not well represented well in the “office” , perhaps that’s something she did not get across well in her book or perhaps I’m misinterpreting what she said but that’s what I got from the book - have you read it ?

[@Kopite4life12]

Patrick Bateman It’s about equality of opportunities not outcome! So therefore an office could be 96 percent white British or 96 percent black/Asian British, it doesn’t matter so long as the only criteria was on the basis of what the candidates could control such as experience, presentation, character etc..

[@soulscanner66]

Kopite If there is no equality of outcome, it's a sign that there is no equality of opportunity. Equality of outcomes is how you measure equality of opportunity.

[@Blueblood1873]

Guy Souriandt You really live in a bubble. What are you a self loathing white person or an entitled individual who takes victim hood to the height of idiocy?

[@Incubus635]

@Adetola Ayodele Ohh Black boy, you think blacks are saints throughout history?

[@theodorbrinch]

I feel like the CV study probably says more about wanting to hire people with a similar culture in the workplace, than really about the colour of someone's skin. This is more a symptom of the disadvantages of being the cultural minority rather than actual racism.

[@theodorbrinch]

@Ewarton Charlton I just feel like people are looking for it where it doesn't exist, in the hopes to eradicate it. And before you know it we are deviding the world up by race again, albeit for supposedly altruistic reasons. I think often times before we call out racism, let's see if it might be socioeconomic or cultural. It might be a better way to solve the issue.

[@taragorm8097]

I am white and Irish. I have also been oppressed.

[@ZTGWrestling]

I’m white and Jewish and I join you my friend

[@ZTGWrestling]

@Nova Nanas of course I didn't say I'm not aware. if people don't wnat to respect their oipinion though

[@Србомбоница86]

@Nova Nanas there is no white privilege

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

I am white and English and grew up in New York and have been oppressed but only in Ireland. Up North I was not oppressed. In the South I have yet to stop being told how, because I am foreign, no one can get to know me. I am also not Catholic but that is another story. Pretty sectarian down here.

[@iwilldiebutineversoldmysou106]

I dont think you can change the world we can only change ourselves.

[@black76561]

i can relate to points made @ 24:00 minutes... conformity of the black stereotypes... 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@jo18533]

Statistics don't lie.

[@thewhitestboogieman6552]

We're glad you're not talking to us about race anymore. We're tired of the incessant whining.

[@britknee3343]

hahaha

[@Hello-qs3cl]

You wrote this two years ago, do you still stand by what you said today?

[@thewhitestboogieman6552]

@@Hello-qs3cl Absolutely, even more so.

[@lunalea1250]

We're tired of ur incessant whining and denials of 'inconvenient truths'!

[@Norfolk212]

WARNING : Comments below are filled with far right sentiments.

[@saulwest8254]

Not pacifying an eternal victim makes you far right?

[@mytmouse57]

Don’t be a moron. Confronting and calling out injustice isn’t anywhere near the same thing as trying to drum up a pity party.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@@mytmouse57 That is a rock n' roll epic comment! Well stated! Touche!

[@mikehunt.1609]

When people complain about white people being racist, they only seem to be talking about a very specific spectrum of whites. In Reni's case Journalists. I worked as a postman in London for 26 years and would go drinking with a large variety of different people and ethnic groups, and I was once asked by a white Canadian girl in a pub in Harlesden, where we're all the black girls? She had noticed that of all the different people we worked with it was onlly black girls who didn't socialise outside of work. So yes white "middle class" people have issues with integrating but...................

[@CaptainCharismaY2J]

Just another skintellectual

[@tm1rt2vv8i]

She lacks a lot of common sense.

[@goldeneddie]

Perhaps if you repeatedly experience the same unfortunate response from so many different people from so many different walks of life when you talk about race, maybe it's the way you talk about it. Just saying.

[@jacobs3671]

The fact there is racism is not debatable. Being from the states, the big debate here is really about what to do about it and that is where the conflict really comes in. when you get down to the bottom line, the left wing of our country wants bigger and bigger government and more and more versions affirmative action that don’t help and also hurt the economy. So here it’s much deeper than skin color. Because how can I talk to the far left if they actually think that capitalism is racist and thinks we need to go into communism to fix racism and that’s where you get the push back here really. Because now I have to argue for capitalism because I know it’s the better choice and risk being called a racist. That’s where I’m like..yeah I’m out...

[@lunalea1250]

That is because there never have to be any AA programmes benefiting whites, they have always been in positions of privilege and gained wealth due to enslavement of others! 'Inconvenient truths' are still truths!

[@english3542]

WHY SHOULD WE BE INTERESTED

[@Mel1lvar]

10:00 See this I find fascinating, they sent out cv's with African names, Asian names and 'white' names. See to me, this isn't racism but rather xenophobia (the fear of the foreign) I think often times in our society white and BAME confuse the two so much when they're in fact very different beasts. It's (imo) why people questioned Obamas birth certificate and assumed he was Muslim, it's the fear of the alien and lack of cultural common ground, I even think it's helps Ms Eddo-lodge, by having an African/English (I assume) hybrid double barrelled surname it probably helped readers relate to her, aka this isn't an 'alien' examining a society from the outside, this is someone living wthin it. Also when Ms Eddo-Lodge talks about quotas and lack of BAME people in top jobs or in an office etc (35:00) I'm reluctant to fully be on board with her. The UK is still 84% white, a company having a very high % of white workers is not a statistical anomaly, it's extremely likely, perhaps that argument I propose doesn't really apply if we're talking about London but then again I'd argue that London is not representative of the UK as a whole. Finally on an overarching topic I have firmly believed (since 2004) in the Avenue Q doctrine which is. ♫ Everyone's a little bit Racist, it's true. But everyone is just about As racist as you! If we all could just admit That we are racist a little bit, And everyone Stopped being so P.C., Maybe we could Live in -- harmony! ♫ So quite simply, I believe that Ms Eddo-Lodge is motivated in her work to some extent by racism, but in saying that I throw myself into that category too, everybody makes judgement based on race, melanin does not absolve you of that basic component of human nature, whats sad in the northern hemisphere is the correlation between wealth (or lack thereof) and race and our modern worlds desire to transpose our 21st century values onto historical actions. So I will buy this book, I'll probably hate it but I think that if you can't see an argument from both sides then you might as well put your fingers in your ears.

[@possi98]

So many convolutions ...lol... just say" I am racist " and own it...

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Oh hooray! Finally. Yes, in Britain (and elsewhere) there is a deep xenophobia and there is racism but we rarely talk about xenophobia.

[@estebansteverincon7117]

Somebody please hurry up and write: "Why I’m No Longer Talking to SJW's About ANYTHING"

[@HMarsh-zg9ct]

is it because you're determined to keep your head up your asshole and everything you say would be muffled anyway? lol

[@Kashi86]

Write it yourself

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

@@Kashi86 Touche!

[@pdc1973uk]

Racism is pernicious and real, this is obvious in the context of the history of colonialism (which is not a historic phenomenon, but the current state of the world in a neo-colonialist context). But the existence of class-based hierarchies with differential access to educational and vocational opportunities is the fundamental basis of these prejudices.

[@z2001lhcjer]

And from who did u steal that quote?...or r u "paraphrasing"? Ur a programmed p.o.s...one day u will understand what this goofy broad really is. U'll also b embarrassed af about that comment u posted...but as it stands today, you're truly ridiculous.

[@JesusIsKingAndSavior]

In 2020, we're all colonized by the corporate world. It is interesting you don't see that. It makes it a lot easier for them to do that, if they have an extra buffer of deniability. It isn't the fault of the "corporate-plantation", it's the general white person!

[@squeakysoliloquy83]

Get on with your life, live it the best you can and stop stirring up bullshit!! There's no such thing as group ID or communities, such as black, gay, Pakistani, disabled etc etc there is only the individual. Groups do not deserve attention, acceptance or rights, individuals do. Ps this woman obviously lives in a bungalow!!

[@malandz9555]

God I bs by stand this man. Here he comes with his 💩 she handled him well

[@ayato2165]

her assessment of stairs is weird

[@Matt-kt9nm]

8:54 This question revealed a lot.

[@stephenowen3383]

An interesting conversation, but she really comes off to me as someone who seems to make some strange assumptions, but her heart is in the right place. There were some fair points she made though and this will plausibly make me buy her book out of interest. My main objections, although there are elements in truth in all of what she is saying, were as follows: - Surely the white privilege is a bit too broad, given I bet without a doubt that most of the advantages you claim are to white people apply only to middle class male white people? - Whilst I agree that people claiming they are colour-blind is blatantly untrue, I think seeming somewhat angry towards something that I suspect people really don't have the free will to change (i.e. the unconscious biases that they have towards different types of people). Of course everyone can say it is unreasonable to assume that black people are inherently less qualified to be, say, a shopping assistant, than white people, but the issue is when people have similar qualifications and it comes down to broadly superficial characteristics. If you claim you are colour-blind then you are in self-denial. - I find it uncomfortable personally because largely it is people doing hot takes on Twitter preaching to white people in thoroughly discouraging ways, but also because yeah I do feel as if there is a meaning to what they are saying that I find insidious and worrying. - Well yeah the alt-right and other movements aligned with them are obsessed with demographics, and the concept of white genocide, which is always insidious and has some seriously worrying potential outcomes. I don't agree that it is becoming a colossal thing, but it might be. My counter to it is "....and?". I really couldn't care about my race in any inherent way besides the real world effects of it (i.e. what you are talking about that I guess makes me thankful in terms of at least some degree of employment discrimination not occurring), which would be irrelevant if white people started to die out as the alt-right claim. - I disagree with positive discrimination, for a few reasons, although that doesn't mean I am pro the status quo. My main issues are that first of all instead of solving the discrimination problem it just shifts the issue over to a different group of people, second it has no real end and third it is based almost wholly on a indeterminable state of fairness. I would instead say that trying to get as many blind tests as possible would really help and would actually produce the fairest system in my view. Meritocracy will probably never exist universally, but getting closer to it, not further would be good.

[@stephenowen3383]

I will just reply to each of your comments with my own individual comments. I am not sure what was unempathetic about what I said, and I find the idea of a "black community" as odd as "a white people" or "a Muslim community". I will be reading her book as I am very interested by what she has said. I am saying that I don't think some of what she said was very rational to me, but it was still good and interesting. Yeah I agree with the basic premise that most white people are tricky to talk about race with. I never said I didn't.

[@stephenowen3383]

I never said I don't believe such a thing could happen, I have said that for me in the West it doesn't happen. Of course it has happened historically with the Irish immigrants to the US and seems to be happening to some extent to white South Africans. I am saying that there is nothing inherent to me being white that is important to me, and that cannot change, so in saying that I am saying really something completely different. I am not super well up on the firm issue, so I cannot speak on it. On blackface, yeah I dislike it and yeah I definitely wouldn't do it or feel comfortable around those that do it and on what I think you are referring to is the Windrush generation that needs to be sorted out. I am not sure what this is supposed to be arguing against that I have said. I mean I am not sure what I am supposed to self-reflect about. You haven't specified it whatsoever, you have just referenced lots of things I wasn't talking about and have suggested I said something I did not.

[@stephenowen3383]

Well cool I am going to buy it. Given you largely didn't answer what I was actually saying, and seem to think I was disagreeing on her premise when I am not, on a lot of what she said which I am not and didn't really address any of my major arguments, really this was completely unproductive.

[@fcrn748]

Her perception of her life however is not the actual reality. There is a reason why evidence and logic trump empathy in discussion.

[@fcrn748]

@Stephen Owen I bet without a doubt that most of the advantages you claim are to white people apply only to middle class male white people? Could you not go further and remove race and gender entirely ? We know that culture, IQ, and individual personality characteristics all provide advantages. Its not clear at all that race plays a significant part with all the variables at play. And its also not particularly likely because when you control for other variables you dont find the same racial disparity. And regarding the Alt-right. IS it not painfully obvious that she is just the other side of the same coin ? Identitarians who make broad claims about other groups and want fascistic measures to fix their percieved problems.

[@tat007]

Stairs????? Jesus Christ.

[@luukeluketer1024]

Breaking News : Channel 4 News now rebranded to BET (Black Entertainment Television) .....

[@007Fusiion]

Name three main black tv stars on that channel

[@Diana-gq4qr]

Pablo you are practicing deflection. Good job !

[@Humannondancer]

Christ, she is so confused.

[@peterbailey4222]

+DA 329 You seem defensive, patroling all these comments, what's on your mind?

[@malikrahman8649]

Christ was a black man, please don't be racist.

[@Humannondancer]

Who knows the truth of Jesus, Malik? racism is not part of who I am. However, people making a living on the perception of systemic racism existing and perpetuating the myth is abhorrent in the west in 2018. Channel 4 are leaders in that field, unfortunately. It's as if MLK never existed.

[@007Fusiion]

i.e 'Does not see things the way I do (need to)'.

[@leylabourne3966]

34.50 is the absolute truth

[@jordane1350]

Meritocracy does exist and we live in one, that's why people of Asian descent widely outperform people of European Descent in universities and the sciences. This fact alone blows away every one of her arguments. Quotas are designed to let lazier cultures get into positions of power over harder working ones.

[@007Fusiion]

Each group has their own individual battle with whiteness. The Black & white one is unique - its colour coded to begin with.

[@xsarchitect]

Humans doing human things. When we get to the point where we can't tell race anymore because of interracial interactions then there will be something else to divide us. We really just need to accept that we are idiots.

[@darbyogill5771]

Pure evil

[@mehcol]

Oh she's a feminist as well ! How surprising, I wonder if she's a fan of The Donald.

[@everydaysaschool-day7517]

Are you not a feminist?

[@mehcol]

@@everydaysaschool-day7517 no, I'm a masculinist

[@everydaysaschool-day7517]

I think you spelled misogynist wrong 🙄

[@mehcol]

@@everydaysaschool-day7517 ' incorrectly ' an adverb.

[@everydaysaschool-day7517]

Oh I see, the old, 'correct someone's grammar in the attempt to make oneself feel superior' trick. Nice try 🙄

[@sdstern68]

Lady, there is no equality

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Well, that was simply put. And true. I think, as I age, that all of this fuss we fixate on achieving for so long just isn't real and we must find another, more effective, way of achieving peaceful co-existence.

[@Diana-gq4qr]

Whoever are offended by what Reni is saying. They are racist also.

[@zoesolanki961]

Why are they racist?

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

@@zoesolanki961 They aren’t. It’s just another pathetic attempt to shut down opposition.

[@zoesolanki961]

@@himwhoisnottobenamed5427 Give me one good reason why I should trust a bunch of guys who want you to pay £5k or something for the privilege of listening to them talk?

[@maggotmeatballz2692]

Reni is a meme.

[@MrGorobu]

Self aware.. Jesus.

[@imnotgayyy8489]

Bollox