Repairing a Cuetec Cynergy carbon fiber shaft with a cracked ferrule

[@bigdaddyrc4642]

Why did you drill a hole in the tenon of the new ferrule?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@bigdaddyrc4642 I removed a small amount of material in order to make it lighter to help keep the defection down. Thanks for commenting.

[@Dugnew]

Same question What was that vault plate material? I use black tomahawk and Hydex 202 but that stuff was very white in color

[@Dugnew]

I replaced the tip and VP on my Cynergy shaft,and was really surprised at how soft that Cuetec VP material was

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@Dugnew I used Tiger's Saber-t material. It is extremely hard and strong. The customer said that the ferrule had actually cracked twice on this shaft. After playing with it, they are very happy with how it plays and feels. Thanks for commenting.

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@Dugnew I agree, the material they use is too soft in my opinion.

[@warrente66]

is that the material from atlas supplies? ​@@MapleStreetBilliards

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@@warrente66 Yes, Atlas does sell it. As well as many other vendors. Thanks for commenting.

[@gunspool7982]

What material is this ferrule made of?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@@gunspool7982 It is Tiger 's Saber-t ferrule material. I got it from atlassupplies.com. Thanks for commenting.

[@MrADVANCEDTEK]

I'm puzzled a bit. Both of my Cynergy shafts have a very soft ferrule. Not uncommon on most low deflection shafts. My earliest Predator had a soft ferrule. All of them held up to breaking with no problem. Any alloy plastics will have stringing chip. It's not brittle at all. And he said it cracked twice? Near the CF nun the less. I'd like to have seen it and see if my fingernails would catch. I've installed all the common available materials. Only material I've seen to shave like that or similarly were Juma,Meucci,and delrin. I think I'll check their patent for info. I don't think a CF shaft would need different ferrule material just because it's CF. And a softer ferrule is what the big names are putting on it seems. The shaft can't be that old shoulda tried warranty I would think. But would take a while to get back. You got it done so all is good. I'd like to hear the hit.

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@MrADVANCEDTEK I was able to feel the crack with my fingernail. There was also a visible shift in the material above and below the crack. The hit did not sound any different to me while trying it out after the repair. My customer has also not mentioned any difference in the sound or the hit. Thanks for commenting.

[@MrADVANCEDTEK]

@@MapleStreetBilliards Then it's a solid repair. My Prather Pioneer shaft has a Aegis ll on it. Reason I mention this is over the years I've owned it 10+ I've taken down from 13.25mm to just under 11mm over that time. I break fairly hard with it and now for the last year the ferrule has multiple cracks. I've played Ivory like that and waiting for it to pop off lol. My theory is that at less than 2mm the Aegis ll is too brittle. That's why it cracked. This makes sense cause I've never seen a plastic alloy or phenolic linen ferrule on a snooker cue. If you make shafts like I do you might not know this yet. Ten years on a personal shaft. I've talked to a few cue builders here and they knew right away with a few good stories. Figured I'd pass it on. With so many new materials out now I have to keep a detailed log from now on. Well if you're interested I'll send you a picture. Right now I'm replacing a Kamui clear that separated from the clear bottom. First time seeing that.

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@MrADVANCEDTEK I appreciate the insight. Thank you very much.

[@LIFTEDbry]

Can you change out joint sizes on shafts?? Specifically a Jacoby black v4

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@LIFTEDbry You can send me an email at [e-mail]. We can talk about it there. It's possible, but it would depend on a few things.

[@allancnc]

In Denmark they use "Seconds Glue", works in a few seconds, but i use a thicker glue, i don't thrust the thin stuff, but it works faster, seconds, the thicker one is like at least an hour.

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@@allancnc I agree with you. I am not a fan of fast set glues for tips. I don't even like using accelerator for the glue. In my experience, the accelerator will weaken the bond. Thanks for commenting.

[@user-rt9rk3dw6p]

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[@rendevera3134]

Very clean work sir. May I ask what size of drill bit you used to make the hole for the tenon of the ferrule? What diameter was the hole of the tenon?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@@rendevera3134Thank you very much. I used a 19/64 drill bit to make the hole. Thanks for commenting.

[@garyc5802]

What does a ferrule do? Why can't you glue the leather tip directly to the wood?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@garyc5802 The ferrule is in place to protect the shaft from being damaged when striking the cue ball with every stroke. The phenolic resin material that the balls are made of is harder than wood. Without a ferrule, a traditional wooden shaft would be damaged quickly. Carbon fiber shafts such as this one are made of as a hollow tube that is filled with a special foam. Gluing a tip directly to it would cause the tip to be pushed into the shaft rather quickly. Thank you for commenting.

[@garyc5802]

@@MapleStreetBilliards Thanks much for the good info.

[@Crawpupps]

Can you fix a cuetec with a carbon fiber wrapped shaft and cracked Ferrell?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@Crawpupps I have never heard of a carbon shaft being warped. I would suggest that you reach out to Cuetec with that issue. The Cynergy shafts should have a lifetime straightness guarantee. Feel free to send me an email at [e-mail] about any repairs that you might want done.

[@frankelle23]

I have the exact same crack on my cynergy shaft but i csn honestly say that it's completely my fault. What wpuld be the cost to have this repair done by you?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@frankelle23 Please send me an email at [e-mail], and we can talk about pricing there. Thank you.

[@frankelle23]

@MapleStreetBilliards email already sent. Thanks

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@frankelle23 Yep, and I have replied.

[@fabienbedot9645]

Nice work ! What kind of material do you use for ferrules ?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@@fabienbedot9645 I used Tiger's Saber-t material. It is extremely hard and strong. The customer said that the ferrule had actually cracked twice on this shaft. After playing with it, they are very happy with how it plays and feels. Thanks for commenting.

[@djdommes9302]

Nice work ! Like your technique.

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@djdommes9302 Thank you very much.

[@jorose95]

Unfortunately you weakened the ferrule with the internal tennon being hollowed. No need for hollowing it and if you do hollow it it needs to be filled with a dense foam to avoid any weird sound. Using sand paper to get it to size is not an accurate method. Notice you didn’t index the shaft in your lathe, turning the shaft I 100% guarantee you it was not DP, 5,000-8,000 off from being DP that means your ferrule was not round, but maybe to the eye but in the lathe you can see it wobbling 5,000-8,000. From a video it turned out ok and customer most likely wouldn’t know the difference but side by side with quality work and you would 100% see the difference especially if I take measurements no way that ferrule is a consistent size. You need to index your shafts and not work on them until you can index them within 1,000th of DP. I’m sorry if this may offend you but it’s the truth. Hope this helps improve your method.

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@jorose95 Thanks for the advice. It is much appreciated.

[@sim672]

do you do ferrule/tip repair on regular maple shafts as well or just carbon fiber?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@@sim672 Yes, I can do that kind of work on maple shafts as well. If you are interested in repair work, you can email me at [e-mail]. Thanks for commenting.

[@jeboks777]

Was that you breathing heavily? Did yyou ran before all this?

[@MapleStreetBilliards]

@@jeboks777 I speed these videos up to make them shorter. It was me breathing, but at my normal pace. Thanks for commenting.

[@왕뚜껑-f8y]

이렇게 작업하면 완변하지 않다.

[@FrankSchmidt-il1fu]

Das Teil hat ja voll die Unwucht. Das Oberteil kannst Du vergessen. 😢😢😢😢

[@UncraftedPlays]

Most German thing you could possibly say 💀