Repairing an Atari 1984 Paperboy Arcade Game Cabinet!

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@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
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@LS1Cobra
@LS1Cobra 5 жыл бұрын
My first job back in the 80's after leaving school was refitting arcade cabinets. I would rewire old cabinets and put the newer game boards in them. Change out the artwork panel that usually came with the new game board. Test them and then drop them off at the sites. Spent a lot of my youth in arcades in the 70's and 80's. Got given a bunch of old black and white boards and parts by the local arcade while still at school and built a couple of working machines on the bench at home (Original space invaders and a lunar lander game I forget the name of). I went on to a carrer in telecommunications. A few years ago I bought a new machine with an emulator in it and now my daughter and I play the games I played at her age.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool Michael, yes I worked for an operator who did kits in games too but it was later on, he had an entire back room full of Ms. Pac-Man cabinets he was hoarding, all still the original game. Must have had 30 of them all lined up perfectly, this was in 2008 or so, he still had them. That's cool you're able to share those games with your daughter you're raising her right! See you on the next video.
@ItsaRomethingeveryday
@ItsaRomethingeveryday 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade was it Namco or the other version that Ms.Pacman was able to outrun the ghost, ? I can never remember
@d_shepperd
@d_shepperd 5 жыл бұрын
Sudden fond memories of my time working in coin-op Atari engineering (1976-2003). Thanks.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
What a job, David! I'll bet it sounds better than it was, though at times :)
@d_shepperd
@d_shepperd 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Yep, a wild ride. The company (the coin-op division of Atari) changed its name a number of times while we were all basically sitting at our same desks and working in our same labs. So there's that.
@JohnDarIssac
@JohnDarIssac 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and troubleshooting! I really love your format and your positive outlook. You always seem to go in a logical path and it's reassuring to us amateur vid & pinball collectors when we are working through our own problems.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, I hate (which is very negative) all the videos on youtube where the narrator is hating on the older games, or criticizing things, drives me crazy. I also don't like the idea that it takes an expert to repair them. With patience anybody can fix these things, i've found people just don't want to put in the time to learn.
@kingmuppet7023
@kingmuppet7023 5 жыл бұрын
Love the step by step troubleshooting you keep in the videos, even the oops moments. Keep them coming. Now a Subscriber.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks King Muppet.... Mahna Mahna
@Speeddemon3
@Speeddemon3 5 жыл бұрын
Omg this brings back some awesome memories! This game and Pole Position kept me broke every weekend!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Atari owned you!
@Speeddemon3
@Speeddemon3 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Proudly sir!
@tarusyanakopulos6276
@tarusyanakopulos6276 5 жыл бұрын
Really great vid, never seen someone explain it step by step that actually made sense the way you did. Given me a far greater understanding of using the schematics to fault find. Thank you! from New Zealand :)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Tarus, we'll see you on the next video!
@mattc.310
@mattc.310 3 жыл бұрын
" I never went to school for this...". Maybe, but you have more practical knowledge than many people who did. Like the troubleshooting particularly, and the games are just fun.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt, that's very nice of you to say!
@VideoGameMovies85
@VideoGameMovies85 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see these old machines work again. Also the trouble shooting is very educational if you're interested in such things.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it... we'll see you on the next one!
@melanatedprose9134
@melanatedprose9134 4 жыл бұрын
I never played this game but enjoyed watching the repair process. I used to work in the Newspaper industry as a Journalist. My Dad threw papers growing up. Funny how things turn out.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Life is full of coincidences, there must be some great plan somewhere, haven't figured it out yet though, but maybe one day!
@NigelMorris18
@NigelMorris18 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, really interesting to watch. How you guys understand this stuff is beyond me. Thanks for sharing.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
You just have to walk through it from the beginning, after awhile you start seeing the same things over again and you learn how to do it. You're learning too just watching, thank you for checking us out Nigel we'll see you on the next video!
@ItsaRomethingeveryday
@ItsaRomethingeveryday 5 жыл бұрын
Im so glad to have found your channel, we watch alot of vids from Todd over at Tnt, but they never really show the in depth work like you do, I enjoy aspects of both channels, so reminiscent of my teen years playing these games at the local arcade, thanks for all that you do to keep these classics up n running, Liked and full view, see ya in the next vid, Take care
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rome we appreciate that. Todd Tuckey is the grandfather of the arcade industry right now, he's the man! See you on the next video!
@gscranage4594
@gscranage4594 5 жыл бұрын
That’s so amazing watching someone figure it out like that. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks G, we appreciate the kind words, we hope people enjoy the thought process we go through when we're trying to fix one!
@adamsowers8957
@adamsowers8957 5 жыл бұрын
Double like! This game was a big part of my childhood.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam, but if you double like it takes the like away :) It's such a cool cabinet and game, wish I was better at it, might have to practice more :) See you on the next video!
@williamcooper2368
@williamcooper2368 9 ай бұрын
That cabinet is so nice. Beautiful monitor.
@christopherAwaite
@christopherAwaite 4 жыл бұрын
Loved paperboy never knew there was a arcade machine of it. Super neat
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
That’s how it started, back in the day a lot of home games started as arcade versions.
@shanefraser7764
@shanefraser7764 Жыл бұрын
Salute from New Zealand, paperboy w the handlebars from my youth played about 86-87 so good to See✌️✌️✌️🇳🇿
@TheRealScooterGuy
@TheRealScooterGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Watching two+ years later, no, I didn't see the playthrough first. lol Great work!
@dodgeman4360
@dodgeman4360 5 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this and finally admitted I wasn't a good "Paperboy" when the screen went dark and the voice said "YOU'RE FIRED!"
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
I've got it on film that I'm not a good Paperboy :)
@lobitome
@lobitome 5 жыл бұрын
Same. I love it even though I rarely got passed 3 or 4 levels.
@darrenxw3495
@darrenxw3495 5 жыл бұрын
I was trying to stay with you as were explaining(quite well) and diagnosing the sound problem,about half way through it it was doing my head in!!!! Another job well done mate. Now,where did I put those headache tablets!!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
How do you think I felt, I was here in person :)
@bandwagontheory2581
@bandwagontheory2581 3 жыл бұрын
You have helped my schematic reading SO well! Thank You!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
No problem Mike glad you enjoyed it!
@JonJon2627
@JonJon2627 5 жыл бұрын
Love playing papper boy back in the days I use to have a paper route back in the days
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Were you any better at it than me? LOL It's hard!
@JonJon2627
@JonJon2627 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcadeThat Video games was kind of hard when I have my paper route was easy remember paper boy was out for every home video game consoles I remember playing the arcade one the most bee Kool if arcade 1 up did really great replica of arcade cabinet of it
@FloppyDiskMaster
@FloppyDiskMaster 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 16 so I obviously didn't have real arcades growing up but we did have a Paper Boy machine at my Cub Scout building. My dad was the leader of the pack so he'd take me there every weekend with my brother to clean and do paperwork but my brother and I just played the game the whole time. I love the arcade version and I hope that someday I can own an original cab. Side note, I don't remember the speech sounding so robotic, it sounded much more fluent. Later revision maybe? I know the amp was broken at some point because the sound was missing 50% of the time, very quiet 49% of the time, and worked fine 1% of the time. I almost got the machine for myself but at the last minuet some guy took it, the the building was falling apart and everything was given away. I suspect the game was water damaged because it was below a leak in the ceiling.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I'd imagine it had some water damage, but the truth is most of these older ones do! A lot of times they'd get left on the back of an operator's truck in a rain storm while he moved it or various other places it could get wet. That's cool you got to play one later on, this was a tough game to keep working so I'd imagine the sound had a few hiccups :) Thanks for watching, and we'll see you on the next video!
@nomusicrc
@nomusicrc 5 жыл бұрын
It’s so satisfying to find out what was wrong with these and then fix it
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Thanks for watching Steve, see you on another video soon.
@evan__kumar
@evan__kumar 2 ай бұрын
18:06 that’s what you need to do!
@kure7586
@kure7586 5 жыл бұрын
Damned mate - been there - have the scars (bags under my eyes really). Eventually ( It took me at least 1/2 a decade as an admin ) I have started to carry around in my pockets white electricians tape and black marking pen to tag everything - religiously. It cuts down on those "non-replicable" issues like you had - and it does wonders for my sanity ;)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
There you go man, that's a good idea. Thanks for watching, and I'll see you on the next video!
@ErichH68
@ErichH68 3 жыл бұрын
I remember at the time how unique this game was! You had all the shooters, etc and here this odd game stood with a bike handle attached to it just luring you to it. I liked that at least initially it started out with a slow leisurely pace. A good game to finish on after all the highly stimulating ones.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Erich!
@ErichH68
@ErichH68 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade You’re welcome 😊
@chrisnizer1885
@chrisnizer1885 5 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, CGA allowed for 4 colors simultaneously at 320x200 resolution and EGA allowed 16 colors simultaneously at the same 320x200 resolution. EGA could display even higher resolution than 320x200 (with fewer colors) if necessary. Great video by the way. Those classic game electronics are endlessly fascinating. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with us my friend.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
No problem Chris, see you on the next video!
@SamuliTuomola_stt
@SamuliTuomola_stt 5 жыл бұрын
yep but CGA/EGA/VGA are computer video standards, they aren't actually used with arcade some just use it as shorthand for "15khz line frequency". IMO the other term "standard res" is also confusing since it doesn't define the resolution exactly, e.g. Pacman/RallyX does 288x224, Galaxian does 256x224. and colors are all over the place too since it's mostly just a function of the palette RAM being used.
@MarkMcDaniel
@MarkMcDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
The +/-15 V values going into the opamp are the rails of the opamp. They are there to ensure the output of the opamp falls within that voltage range.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark!
@TofranBohk
@TofranBohk 5 жыл бұрын
I used to play this whenever we went to the local arcade when I was a kid!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Were you better at it than me???? LOL
@alainb4504
@alainb4504 5 жыл бұрын
I Love this arcade gem 😌 Atari golden years...
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it really kind of was... their earlier stuff was legendary but this stuff in the mid 80's was what I remember....
@TheCameracade
@TheCameracade 4 ай бұрын
One of My all time favorite games! Great video
@livingdeadbtu
@livingdeadbtu 3 жыл бұрын
+ - 15 (usually 12) is usually used by the op amp to drive hi and low on the output. RS 232 output standards back in the day before we all got lazy and loosey goosey about the rs232 standard. I know it's not an rs232 chip but that's why a lot of the old op amps used + and - voltages because before TTL... those were the 1s and 0s. What is funny is they are clamping the output past r112 with the two 1n100 diodes. Into the ls04 inverter gates which they are using to clean up the signal into the ls00 NOR gate. They must have wanted to drive that oscillation pretty hard to do it that way!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
I understood about half of what you said :) Thank you as always for watching :)
@miamioverdrive1675
@miamioverdrive1675 4 жыл бұрын
you are like the sherlock holmes of video game repair! I spent a year learning to troubleshoot and repair refrigeration and AC systems...that was simple compared to what you do...A/C=power, line, switch, load.......no chips or transistors involved!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Well you have to imagine, we only put up videos that we actually figure it out on, LOL There's a lot of people out there much more effective at it than I am. Thank you for watching though, we'll see you on the next video :)
@Floattersintheeye
@Floattersintheeye 5 жыл бұрын
dang i played this as a kid WONDERFULL WORK i miss the old days when gaming was social event in a big hall with a load of other crazy kids and a bag of coins .
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth! It's gone likely forever but you can keep the memories..... see you on the next video Twig Boy!
@Floattersintheeye
@Floattersintheeye 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade yeah and people like you keep them alive see you in the next clip subs out m8 cheers
@Bendage71
@Bendage71 5 жыл бұрын
Who knew Tommy Lee Jones fixes arcade games 🤣
@jdsharp5036
@jdsharp5036 5 жыл бұрын
Pinball is my thing,ain’t a machine made I can’t beat. Buddy of mine was an ace on Defender then graduated to Stargate when it came out. He played Stargate for 17 + hrs straight on 1 quarter at a Mr Donut,they were giving him coffee to keep him alert,didn’t know it at the time but he was less than 3 hrs from the world record,and was ahead of the the guys score time wise. We were also kicked out of a number of arcades in the area for playing to long,cops even said it the owners place he can ban anyone,we never even got our quarters back lol.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
That's when you know you're winning at life, when you're so good at the arcade games they call the cops to kick you out, LOL Very cool man, I never was any good at any of them, even though I fix them. I'm decent at Galaga and Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat II but that's about it :)
@robertcollins7034
@robertcollins7034 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow remember playing that age about 8 at the sea side in holiday ! Took 10pence coins I'm in uk !
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool they made it over :) I think a lot of the Atari stuff for Europe was built in Ireland!
@DaveMcGarry
@DaveMcGarry 5 жыл бұрын
Stone cold classic! 📬🚲
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
It sure is!
@Skeemaster
@Skeemaster 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! Thanks for the vids .. I can't stop watching
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man, we'll see you on the next video :)
@clerdman1
@clerdman1 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome troubleshooting, subscribed
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks CS, we appreciate you watching! See you on the next video....
@hazysativa3045
@hazysativa3045 5 жыл бұрын
One of my top 5 favorite arcade games... I loved this game. I would get wired up on Hawaiian Punch and play this..
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
For over Thirty Years Now, we've been feeling the crunch... from the funky fruit and apple drink called Hawaiian ... Punch! Those were the times, so 80's....
@hazysativa3045
@hazysativa3045 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade The light blue can! Id have my Kangroo shoes on with the zipper pouch and an OP shirt... possibly vaurnet glasses tucked up over my vans hat... I so miss the Reagan era
@bperkins
@bperkins 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one again. Thx!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Bob!
@Slammy555
@Slammy555 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the old BASIC programming days I remember you'd program sound using the poke command and an address, like POKE(11).
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I remember that, I took a basic class in 8th grade but have forgotten everything about it :)
@firehawk6188
@firehawk6188 Жыл бұрын
My Championship Sprint had very similar audio issues. One of the amps was also bad.
@commonsensei8719
@commonsensei8719 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, I am a really big fan of San Francisco Rush Extreme Racing. Could u make a video about that one maybe one day? Cheers from Holland!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Ask and you shall receive :) Have you seen this one - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXKZpX2OhLhpg5Y
@diegoknyte
@diegoknyte 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks Ron! Question, is it normal for the decal around the monitor to not be aligned across the bottom? Looks like it needs to be shifted right an inch or 2 as the mailbox looks weird and the far left newspaper roll looks like it's chopped. Asking for a friend.....
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 7 ай бұрын
There's all kinds of other things wrong with it if you look really close. Life is like that too, the more you look for things that aren't right, the more you'll notice...
@bborkzilla
@bborkzilla 3 жыл бұрын
That voice is the same as the one they used for Gauntlet. I keep expecting it to say "Elf shot the food!"
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot about that, haha you're right though! Thanks for watching!
@sasfarmer9379
@sasfarmer9379 5 жыл бұрын
did a gd job on that one joe....your top fan :0 thank you for the video
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sas Farmer! See you on the next video!
@markt6199
@markt6199 5 жыл бұрын
Such a classic game. Great to see an "original" and unique game and not a knock off. This and Tapper took much coinage from me. lol. Great video as usual, Thanks. So you went to the school of trial and error also? Awesome.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
The only way to fix anything is to break a bunch of things like it first :)
@peterjv8748
@peterjv8748 5 жыл бұрын
Alcohol and video games weren't married enough.
@danaande
@danaande 5 жыл бұрын
18:39 Headline on the paper in the lower left is "First Victim the Unabomber Kills." How in the hell did that make it out of the factory? Or did the previous owner mod that in replacing the bezel??
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
It's an aftermarket mod, the original game just had a blank bezel.
@danaande
@danaande 5 жыл бұрын
Joe's Classic Video Games ah, that makes MUCH more sense. Thanks, and love your channel!!
@odenviking
@odenviking 5 жыл бұрын
Too me it sounds like the early sound boards for the computers late 80 ties up to the first dedicated wave soundboards Roland and later Creative labs soundblaster sound Cards. And its correct on the Yamaha. I have had good expiriances whith soundblaster. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍🙂🙂👍👍🙂
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Oden Viking, I don't have any experience in the PC side of stuff but one day :)
@odenviking
@odenviking 5 жыл бұрын
Thats not a problem since you all ready has begun. Those arcade machines are in a way pcs due to there usage of computer parts and rams and roms. In the computer world we use a thing calld bios settings for hardware settings. But on your arcade games the bios is your basic test program. So in a sence the arcades are the earliest form of computers they are forerunners on graphics and on sound. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍👍😀👍👍👍
@CelebrationOfSound
@CelebrationOfSound 5 жыл бұрын
Joe..i have a paperboy with all original parts that works and i don't live far from rock hill...it does need some restoration, mostly cosmetic i believe...id love to have you work on it...
@fitfogey
@fitfogey 5 жыл бұрын
You’re a genius hoss.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Not quite but ain't we all gettin' there?
@sagretier2689
@sagretier2689 5 жыл бұрын
Where can I play this machine? Is the arcade near myrtle beach? I’ll be taking a trip down there later this year
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it's at Players Choice games inside the mall at Myrtle Beach!
@Michigan_Tactical
@Michigan_Tactical 5 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the op-amp amplifies the difference of the inputs to whatever gain it's set to. Negative 10 and positive 5v and no gain would be 15v.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Phil, I don't completely understand what most of the chips do, I appreciate the help!
@Michigan_Tactical
@Michigan_Tactical 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade it's not very often that I can offer help so it's my pleasure if I can contribute anything useful.
@nickc7494
@nickc7494 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick, we appreciate you watching!
@lobitome
@lobitome 5 жыл бұрын
Love Paperboy. Art looks nice on the cabinet, but the paper in lower left being cut off just bothers me.
@ThomasWinders
@ThomasWinders 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard that hissing noise, I went on "it's an amp... it's the damn amp!"
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I recorded this almost a year ago, I can't remember... did it end up being the amp???
@harryballs6652
@harryballs6652 4 жыл бұрын
I mean it's fairly obvious he already knew but just padded the video to make it longer.
@pinfarmer
@pinfarmer 5 жыл бұрын
Could you repurpose an Ega computer monitor?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you absolutely could. The main issue would be mounting it in the machine so it looked good...
@shoominati23
@shoominati23 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love a 720 arcade cab, i believe the game engine was similar to Paperboy
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I've never had one in! Thanks for watching Chuck U!
@peter486
@peter486 4 жыл бұрын
is there any way of getting a prefect color & contrast display one thise besides eyeballing it? is there any "hardwhere" that exist like for the pc, , would be kind of cool trying to create it :) then again i have no ifead how to hack a arcade without screwing up the rom itself :)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
Not that I know of, you just have to kind of use the adjustments and the scales on the screen to get it as good as you can :)
@MattWolfgang
@MattWolfgang 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's TI Audio. Texas Instruments was an early innovator in synthesized speech.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
That makes sense!
@playy1797
@playy1797 4 жыл бұрын
We have a Paperboy that does not start up, it says 6502 communication error, have you ever had this and what did you o to correct it? I've tried several 6502 chips and that made no difference.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
I have never seen that particular fault but a communication error would mean it's trying to talk to something else and can't, so it's probably one of the buffers on the schematics after the 6502 or maybe a bad connection between the two boards? I would search the forums on www.KLOV.com and see what others have said about it, it's probably a common issue.
@aitorbleda8267
@aitorbleda8267 4 жыл бұрын
I am late to the comments.. but EGA to me is still EGA, never heard of "medium resolution".. yet now I see those terms everywhere! Could you not use a 19" VGA-SVGA monitor?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
The game outputs EGA, a 19" VGA wouldn't display EGA, no. It's the sync.... CGA is 15khz, EGA is 23khz, VGA is 31khz, SVGA is up to 100khz. If you hook a CGA monitor up to this cabinet, or a VGA monitor, you get an image on the screen that doesn't sync up.
@aitorbleda8267
@aitorbleda8267 4 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Thx! I stand corrected.
@timdixon3391
@timdixon3391 5 жыл бұрын
Nice Zappa reference there...one mo gen
@tourstagez101
@tourstagez101 5 жыл бұрын
So cool!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
We thought it was too :)
@rager1969
@rager1969 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, is there no solution that utilizes and old VGA 19" CRT monitor? What does that converter output to, VGA or DVI? If VGA, why not hook it up to a CRT monitor?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
You could hook it up to a VGA CRT but the problem you run into there is reliability. If the original monitor is in it, it's a brand and type that repair guys are familiar with so that's the BEST option... if you replace it with a VGA CRT then you're putting something in there that's 15 or 20 years old, but is some strange design that nobody in the world ever takes the time to fix... and if you did learn or work with it enough to repair it when it breaks (and it will eventually break)... your accumulated knowledge will never be used again since you'll never find the same brand of VGA CRT again. What they're doing is putting a LCD screen in it that's brand new and is as simple as bolting it in. If it breaks, you can put another brand new one in to replace it. So while I'd prefer it have the original monitor which is very fixable... they're putting a LCD in that's going to be more reliable long term than a Computer CRT (which haven't been made in at least 15 years)
@jimmyguy428
@jimmyguy428 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I subbed!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jimmy, we appreciate it!
@jimmyguy428
@jimmyguy428 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade you're welcome! It's great to see how these things tick, not to mention bringing back fond memories of playing them.
@mikmurphy1
@mikmurphy1 5 жыл бұрын
Schematics Question: What do those bow-tie-looking symbols mean? (One of which made it into this video.)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
I don't remember seeing a bow tie symbol but I think i've seen that on space invaders pcbs, I believe it just means a couple transistors are tied together, but I may be wrong.
@dnorman2134
@dnorman2134 5 жыл бұрын
they are an analog switch that is controlled by digital signals. It looks like they can change the volume of the Pokey chips marginally by turning on these switches (which would drop the sound level in 3 steps in this case.)
@JoseVasquez-sp3qm
@JoseVasquez-sp3qm 7 ай бұрын
Good job!
@ryanwolf7174
@ryanwolf7174 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that game it was in the arcade room when I played it
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Ryan!
@evan__kumar
@evan__kumar 2 ай бұрын
29:58
@TheMailmanOfSteel
@TheMailmanOfSteel 5 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, a Unibomber reference on an arcade game, unexpectedly dark (and based).
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I couldn't believe they put that on there, LOL
@evenberg8499
@evenberg8499 9 ай бұрын
I still have this game for the Commodore 64 on a cassette tape. It's pretty unforgivingly hard.
@tjsogmc
@tjsogmc 3 жыл бұрын
Played "Paper Boy" a few times. I wanted to like it because it was kind of cool, but I only ever got past the first screen. It was too hard and took too much money to try to get good at it. It was one of those things that probably looked better on paper, but when they actually built it then it didn't measure up.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 5 жыл бұрын
You really need the original controllers to get the most out of these old games. Tempest just isn't the same without a properly-weighted spinny wheel.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Dave ain't that the truth. There's something too about the weight of the cabinet that makes it different.
5 жыл бұрын
Read my mind !!! Has to be the factory or very , very similar in weight. That was a hot game for certain.
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 5 жыл бұрын
@ When warping out of a level, we always gave it a good spin and the momentum would keep it going as you flew down the "web," but I think the wheel on those little Arcade 1Up machines is a clicky type that only moves you one segment at a time and then stops. Where's the fun in that?
@theoriginaljrest
@theoriginaljrest 8 ай бұрын
20:58 Dare I say it's a Hokey Pokey?!? 😂
@SomeCanine
@SomeCanine 4 ай бұрын
I don't know if I've ever seen one of those in the wild. I didn't even know it was an arcade game.
@kjemradio
@kjemradio 4 жыл бұрын
He replaced the Pokey and turned the game around. That's what it's all about!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
And I put my left hand in... in the thumbnail
@TheCbone1979
@TheCbone1979 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a 1943 game available?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we don't have one in at the moment, we have it on the multigames though of course.
@TheCbone1979
@TheCbone1979 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Thank you, I am very fond of 1943 growing up. If you get one in with the original style cab in order to bring it up to original like-new condition, do you do restorations for customers?
@pezjohnson
@pezjohnson 5 жыл бұрын
So frustrating when you THINK you put in the good chip, but left the bad chip in. Good troubleshooting.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Yup! Figured it out eventually though :)
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 5 жыл бұрын
The game was probably used with the f-ed up screen orientation since the day the LCD was installed, and probably only a few people noticed and nobody cared. I'll admit I was starting to worry that the screen offset would be overlooked here, but nope.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
A gentleman informed me a few months ago that the color wasn't quite right too, it was over saturated.... so eventually this Paperboy broke again, and Adam brought it back. I've filmed another video of fixing the power, then adjusting the color better too so that video will be up on here eventually.....
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Nice. I was going to comment on the screen further, to question whether something installed presumably a while back would have a decent response time, relative to modern standards, but realized that if it absolutely must be 19 inches, the pickings are probably already somewhat constrained. Nowadays even a typical TV has good response time-an advent I waited ten years for.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
It's a real problem, on some games if you put an LCD it absolutely screws up the timing a little bit because of the lag.
@Asterra2
@Asterra2 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Right. Maybe it's just because I made a semi-hobby out of these considerations, but if it were my project, I'd probably look into the model of that LCD screen and see what data exists on its response time. Good 19 inch gaming monitors do of course exist. Better yet, the game's native 512x384 conveniently matches typical native resolutions of 1024x768 etc. Could be the installer of the existing LCD took these into consideration. Could be they didn't care about such things. I mentioned TVs before, but the irony is that with input lag anxiety being a thing of the past, other issues now pervade. For example, I got a Samsung recently, having tired of waiting for a better option (with HDMI2.1 for example). I had to discover for myself that Samsung TVs utilize two different types of dithering at almost all times, because not even the professional publications bother to mention or grade TVs on this point, even though such techniques lower effective resolution. I figured out how to force the TV to disable its crosshatch dithering, and I'm almost certainly the only person on the planet who uses a Samsung TV without crosshatch dithering. It has to be babied, or else the pattern will return. I created test images that anyone can use to know when their TV is using either type of dithering, or both.
@BRSReviews
@BRSReviews 3 жыл бұрын
CGA 16 color max resolution was 320×200 it could only display 4 of these colors simultaneously . EGA graphics modes were 320×200 with 16 colors, 640×200 with 16 colors, 640×350 with 16 colors, and 640×200 with 2 colors, all drawn from a 64-color palette, It could use all 16 colors simultaneously. I remember from the DOS days picking these options from apps and games.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching BRS!
@BRSReviews
@BRSReviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Of course, I love messing with electronics and fixing them. Would try to repair a arcade game if i came across one.
@sallyh6433
@sallyh6433 5 жыл бұрын
A job well done 👌
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sally!
@loboapaixonado5675
@loboapaixonado5675 5 жыл бұрын
I used to played it in a master system console, when i had one, here in br.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool, we get a Master System in every once in awhile, it was a great system back in the day!
@snorman1911
@snorman1911 5 жыл бұрын
Check your device for an image stabilization setting!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
I can add it on youtube but it always makes everything blurry....
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, there’s a good one.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
We thought so too, Deborah!
@DavidMadeira29
@DavidMadeira29 5 жыл бұрын
"Don't try to fix me..." 🗨😭♨️
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 5 жыл бұрын
I am 99% sure i played a sit down version. Great game
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool, I wonder if some operator got creative and put it in another cabinet?
@hubzcaps
@hubzcaps 5 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmmm thT FM. Sounds nice
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
I know right ?
@unorthdoxcleric6953
@unorthdoxcleric6953 5 жыл бұрын
gREAT VID.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cleric, I appreciate you watching :)
@pauldeddens5349
@pauldeddens5349 5 жыл бұрын
Ive never seen an arcade machine actually opened up, that motherboard is titanic!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Most of them aren't this big, this particular system used two big ol' boards.... the rest of them are about a third that size :)
@pauldeddens5349
@pauldeddens5349 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Still quite huge for relatively simple games, its amazing how much technology has progressed since then
@chuck2501
@chuck2501 3 жыл бұрын
so you couldn't convert to a SVGA 19" CRT monitor? a million of those around, it'd look closer than an lcd.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 жыл бұрын
You could but usually when people put in an LCD it's because it's easier. I didn't put it in. Thanks for watching Chuck!
@jklein17
@jklein17 4 жыл бұрын
We test the left pokey we test the right pokey we test both pokeys and we mix them all about we do the hokey pokey and mess it all around that's what its all about.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 4 жыл бұрын
In the thumbnail, I actually have my left hand in, I don't think they ever tell you to put your left hand in!
@digdoug9678
@digdoug9678 5 жыл бұрын
Kids today: "What's a Unabomber?"
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
The irony is kids in 84 wouldn't have known what a Unabomber was either, LOL They added that bezel later it's kind of weird....
@vann90720
@vann90720 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! You said you didn't adjust the brightness or contrast, but the brightness/contrast/gamma calibration screen ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/npyYp4Z9fL54ebs ) is blown out. Is that a youtube/camera issue, or is that how it looks in person? If that's the same type of calibration screen I deal with in A/V and computing, you should be able to see separate, distinct boxes all the way across the upper bar for each color.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Whoops! I really screwed that one up.
@theoriginaljrest
@theoriginaljrest 8 ай бұрын
15:55 Transmission from Mars commencing.
@rodmandealerman3297
@rodmandealerman3297 5 жыл бұрын
Great game! Seeing this reminds me of the Road Runner game I also used to play so long ago. Can't remember, was that also made by Atari? Lets see what my Google-fu can find out... Did I see Gauntlet in a response below?? Can't wait!! edit: How is the monitor wired to the board?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Those little boards allow you to wire the composite sync, ground, and r/g/b to them as an input then convert it to a vga signal out.
5 жыл бұрын
I just subbed. Now will you hire me ? Told ya , 19 years on those things.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 5 жыл бұрын
Colorado Strong we're not hiring at the moment (it's just me and my brother!) but maybe down the road!
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