Replacement Gamecube Sticks

[@mirage_ssb4264]

Why are gamecube controllers so fascinating lol

[@ravenclawluigiplaysanddraw168]

Mirage_SSB4 ikr

[@Robodragon17]

Mirage_SSB4 smash bros

[@Rugg-qk4pl]

Because nobody can just make good, cheap controllers.

[@DayDreamer-es2fj]

Mirage_SSB4 most diversity

[@Tailslol]

xbone sticks works perfectly too and they are cheap.

[@TheAlphaFlamingo]

To anyone who is wondering, the cheap knock off joysticks aren't that bad. You just need a small bit of sandpaper and blu-tack. The issue is is that the stick itself most of the time is to small and catches on the edges of the controller, the stick can also clip that solder because of it. With some fine sandpaper you can file down that part of the plastic to create a small enough notch to where it'll miss it and emulate it. The Blu-tack you can put into the insert of the joystick, a very small amount of course but it will prop the stick up enough to where it won't catch and it'll feel exactly the same as an OEM stick.

[@calebb7012]

2019 and the stick market has increased in quality dramatically.

[@spentrek3624]

Really? Where do you buy yours from?

[@Pslamist]

@@spentrek3624 - I also want to know.

[@Pslamist]

I need like 3 or more.

[@jake.speare]

@caleb b c'mon tell us where

[@Pslamist]

Everybody unlike the comment and like it again to get his attention.

[@phazon0138]

Well shit, I'm literally waiting for my knock off sticks in the mail. I wish I had seen this video a week ago lol

[@zenithSSBM]

damn, on the plus side, they work alright in Wii Nunchucks if you want to use a stick from a nunchuck you can just replace it with one of the knockoff ones!

[@phazon0138]

zenith SSBM yes thanks! That was very informative. I never even thought that was an option. I will have to try it out!

[@phazon0138]

*Update* So the sticks came in the mail and I put them in and if you actually pull up on the the joy stick after it's installed a little bit, they are just as good as the original. It makes it clicky again and not mushy.

[@Littleferris]

I put a little wadded up piece of paper in mine to prevent it from getting pushed down further during gameplay. I can hardly notice a difference now.

[@phazon0138]

Mark Ferris I thought about doing something like this. The hole is tiny, how did you get it in there? Did you push it down with a paper clip or something of that nature?

[@emin1461]

4:51 Serious Melee or Smash Brothers...We all know, thanks to Years of research, that Melee is not Smash

[@supermario64zx353]

The sticks are actually giving that "mushy feeling" because they aren't made tall enough (or the rubber grip on top of the control stick isn't short enough) so it rubs on your case. A slight error in their molds apparently either made the peg hole too deep, or the stick shorter. Putting a tiny sliver of paper or something really small pushed into it to remove a tiny bit of room for the peg fixed that problem for me.

[@keeganfaulkner1240]

I know this comment is 4 years old, but even on my official smash gc controller, the newer one for ultimate, the controll stick slides in too far. I’m gonna try out that trick, you might have just saved my stick.

[@supermario64zx353]

@@keeganfaulkner1240 understandable, good luck!

[@yoohzi]

@@keeganfaulkner1240 did it work

[@keeganfaulkner1240]

@@yoohzi I never got to try. The stick broke and I replaced it. I don’t have issues with it now

[@Back2Zack]

The increased height is actually a thing. If you've ever heard of fps freaks, its a brand that makes caps that go over your controller's sticks (normally Xbox or ps) that increase the stick height and theoretically give you more precision. So the nunchuck stick may increase your ftilt, utilt, and turnaround precision. Obviously tho practice is going to give you the most benefit but you may notice a difference.

[@SRMom]

Happy this comment is here, wanted to mention that as well. While it's not a big difference, it is one to keep in mind. Generally, if you use a lot of movement tech like perfect pivoting or dash dancing, a shorter stick makes that much easier, where the longer stick makes precise spacing easier. Maining Robin in SSB4, having my movement be a numchuck stick is great since she doesn't have a ton of movement tech and I value being able to place aerials exactly where I want them. Playing a spacie in Melee however, I'd want that shorter stick for easier dash dancing in neutral and easier wave dashes.

[@Back2Zack]

My thoughts exactly. I think once I get my thumb speed a little faster (which is my biggest struggle in melee) i might switch to a longer stick to improve my pivot uptilt consistency.

[@ErikSeastead]

keep in mind that you will have to move the stick faster in order to get smash inputs on the stick, including making it harder to get dashbacks

[@fredit123456789]

WispBae Dogima well wouldn’t it be good to have the C-stick be taller then and the movement stick be shorter to have the best of both worlds?

[@Ivao.]

people use the C - stick for aerials and smashes, sou you really don't need it to be taller since it's options are kinda binary@@fredit123456789

[@IRNatman]

Because of this video, I learned that C Sticks, regular sticks, nunchuk and Wii U sticks are all the same standard. That's amazing! Immediately went and dug out a crappy bootleg controller to steal its stick and I replaced my worn out C stick WITH ANOTHER MAIN STICK! Ha, it's just so cool, I've always wanted that. Feels good too!

[@jinwithanx]

You honestly deserve more subs. these videos are interesting way of the "review spectrum" And a good way to let people know

[@zenithSSBM]

thanks man! :) glad you like it!

[@kssb9050]

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[@Minty_Meeo]

Kinda related topic. Let's say you have two identical controllers: each with 1 busted analog stick and 1 working analog stick. The official Nintendo controllers use the same component on the board for both the C-stick and control stick, so after a quick desolder on both controllers, you can replace the motherboard component itself to give yourself 1 great controller and 1 bad controller. I did that as one of my first soldering jobs ever, so it's the kind of thing anyone can do given the right tools.

[@zenithSSBM]

thats cool man! learning all about the boards of controllers is what im gonna try tackling next

[@yarm3180]

This video helped me out so much. I bought my controller from JJGames a few months ago. The control stick came without grip and I wanted to replace it so I bought the "low tier" caps from ebay. The control stick was really hard to spin around the edge and was very grimy feeling, I assumed it was just the stick box. After watching this video I immediately realized that it was the stupid ebay sticks. I replaced them with nunchuck sticks and now it works like a charm!

[@zenithSSBM]

so happy to hear that man! glad i could help :D

[@Noc0002]

I found a solution for replacement control sticks that do not click when you move fully in any direction. You need to increase the height at which they sit on the white peg. I did this by wadding up a tiny piece of a plastic bag, putting it into the hole under the stick, and then inserting the stick on the white peg.

[@zenithSSBM]

great idea!

[@chromatic91]

Thank you for this tip! I just ordered my first wavebird (one per month, those things are expensive :P) and now i don't have to worry about the worn sticks.

[@sonicpoz]

Thank you so much! I watched this video after i installed the new stick and having it not click. I lost hope when he said that this was a side effect on replacement sticks, but this actually worked for me! Thanks again.

[@GraveVT]

Thanks for saving my purchase

[@bandeyawx9709]

One year later I personally recommend anyone on a budget to use this method. It's incredibly easy, cheap, and a way to use your custom painted sticks if you buy a set of the same colored ones on eBay without the mush that all of these manufactured ones get. Feels great!

[@otonielgarza4583]

You're quickly becoming one of my favorite chanels in youtube! You share the same passion than me for controllers and that is awesome. Have you ever considered doing a video where you just show every gamecube controller you own and a bit of history about it? I would love to see your colllection! Keep up the great content.

[@zenithSSBM]

thanks man! id love to make that video - if i can think of enough interesting things about each one. lol i used one controller for a long time and still have it so theres some history behind it but a lot of it is like stuff not many ppl would care about lol. i will def try to make it though!

[@liamplqys]

zenith SSBM I would wanna see that vid lol

[@Pslamist]

@@zenithSSBM - Did you make this video? It would be an easy upload while your hand is healing!

[@Applesgosh]

I've used nunchuck sticks for about a year now and I think they're amazing.

[@Retro_Strafe]

If you put a small amount of cotton from a Q tip into the underside hole of the knock off analog stick that the control box slots into, it actually rises it up a bit. Fixes the "mushy feeling"

[@jackdibattista2430]

I actually like the knockoff sticks more lol. I make the little cutout myself. I find the "mushy" feel kinda helps with weird angles if you don't have additional notches. I like the nunchuk stick idea. I will recommend that to my buddy who prefers long sticks. overall awesome video!

[@tashi321]

Been using third-party Xbox ONE replacement sticks and honestly Im not switching back. Theyre absolutely amazinggggg

[@Pineapple_Dino]

When it comes about increasing the grip on the left stick, the Thumb Grips that you buy from EBGames/Gamestop for the Switch Joycons actually fit optimally the Gamecube controller stick too!

[@helx9965]

Honestly I dig the look of the white Wii u sticks. If I had an all white controller I would replace the sticks with those and get white replacement buttons

[@reespawn1300]

Well. Glad those third party nunchuks I bought can actually do something.

[@ChillDans]

Did it work out well with the third party nunchucks? Do you have the click ? I want to refirbish my GC Controllers for SSBU and got 2 broken left Stick Pads.

[@cesarguerrero5630]

For anyone interested, you can actually print a joystick spacer to make the 3rd party replacements usable (main issue with 3rd party replacements is that they sit too low)

[@GenesHand]

Do you know where to find the file to print?

[@HeyoImKaGo]

Where would the link to this print be?

[@ImEcchi]

Old video but I’d like to mention some things about these chinese buttons no matter what color or if they are replica knockoffs: -Left stick: is prone to being too short, a fix would be to get some tin foil and put it in the whole and use a small tool( tiny screw driver or whatever) to push it in. Fixes it just fine and wont cause the stick to slide off the stick box or anything like that. Unless you put too much. - C stick: may have too much left over plastic in its hole making it tall and giving it a scraping/grinding kind of feeling. just get some small tool to scrap it out and you’re fine. Best tool would be a metal/wood/plastic filing set and they can cost around $8 for a set. these are very helpful for the next problems - C on stick being upside down: this can happen a lot with the laziness that is chinese made items. use that filer to make a original shape on the other side( that little nub on the stick box) and slide it in.👌🏼 - Z button: then if you buy button sets the Z-button needs some filing for it to work, as in fully removing the long peg and filing the smaller peg to be thinner. hard to explain but you get the point. If you have a wavebird and notice the Z button looking different from a gamecube controller, that is pretty much how it’s gonna look like after your filing. Nothing we can do about it but if you want to use your controller again you have to do these. Nintendo doesn’t constantly make controllers so we need to preserve them before the become extinct. I do know of people trying to make replica montherboards to be identical to nintendo’s but i dont know when that’ll be finished and ready.

[@chrisoverton8936]

I will tell you from experience. If you use the c-stick a lot (the cheap third party c stick), in any direction, the rubber cap will come off. I bought 2 sets and within 2 days of buying the, both caps came off and i actually cut my thumb on the plastic

[@toontownveteran]

I know this is an old video, but that "mushy" feeling is because the bottom side of the rubber top on 3rd party sticks will actually rub/grind on the plastic shell, so it wont fully has that clicky feeling

[@xXCid]

I've also seen some sellers selling joystick caps that are molded the same way as the ones in your knockoff controllers. However, they are fewer and they're usually a bit more expensive. I've also bought some knockoff controllers that had your replacement caps.

[@ubermenschmexa]

The replacement sticks do indeed feel "mushy" but there is a really easy fix for it that I found yesterday while replacing mine. Once you have replaced the sticks and re-aseembled the controller just pull the stick up! It will click, and it will feel just like the original too!

[@Walktrhroughgames]

I replaced my GC thumbstick with a Wii classic controller thumbstick and I honestly love it so much.

[@AdamCrossing]

Hey thanks man, I've managed to replace my old chewed up GC Controller joysticks with a cheap Nunchuck Joystick! It feels 10x better and I highly recommend to everyone!

[@legoboy-ox2kx]

Yo, there's actually an easy way to fix the mushy feeling on the knockoff thumbsticks. Just get some fine grit sandpaper and rub it under the cap of the stick around the whole circumference. Feels just like the real thing after that

[@mevpo]

Im so happy I found this video, I was in the market for a official controller and a retro game store I frequently go to had one that felt pretty good but it had no plastic grips. I have several nunchucks to use a replacements so I'm real happy!

[@zenithSSBM]

glad i could help! :D

[@gabington8990]

Hey, try sticking a tiny piece of paper into the Low tier thumbstick it will raise the stick up a little bit so the sides of the gate don't come in contact with the rubber grip.

[@MrzZReZaZz]

your channel has made me interested in melee again :)

[@zenithSSBM]

MrzZReZaZz really happy to hear that man! means alot :D

[@hunnahunnahunnas]

Same

[@bowisdom4925]

theres another thing to note with the lower end sticks is that they wear super quick like in two weeks the ridges will be completely gone

[@davidhutchins4481]

I've tried the nunchuck stick, it is bad for people who hold the control stick with their thumb only, but if you're one of those people like me who holds the control stick with their thumb and index finger then it's a pretty good replacement.

[@ScribeAwoken]

It's worth noting that the stick on the nunchuck also gives you a bit more leverage and thus makes the stick feel a bit more loose. I use one on the controller I use for Rivals of Aether, and it's pretty nice, though it's really weird when using it for Smash 4. And even though I haven't tried it out yet myself, I've also heard that Playstation 2 controller analog sticks make for a good alternative.

[@zenithSSBM]

what method do you use to get it to fit?

[@puhnx]

My gc controller control stick has the rubber ripped a little and damn does it hurt when I'm playing smash so thanks for the video 😳

[@JStech0421]

Waffles 13 same

[@jackotsc7173]

Waffles 13 I just use a glove for my left hand. Doesn't hurt at all.

[@user-ni7ui7hs8c]

bro is crazy That you use a glove to play, just get use to it, is like play guitar after a month of doing it does not hurt your fingers anymore

[@TheSimhook]

The cheap knock off ones you talk about first have that mushy feeling I believe because they have a straight up and down cross pattern internally, meaning the plastic on the bottom will press against the plastic side bits of the stick box. The OEM Nintendo thumb sticks have an x shaped cross support in them. That's just my theory tho, I can't PROVE it.

[@Dr.Smash64]

I'm glad i found your channel bro!I'm glad someone is making GameCube controller modification/how to style

[@pippin3430]

When I first saw the bootleg analog on the GameCube controller when I brought it not knowing I was shocked when this was refurbished with that. Also I have a Clear/Indigo controller similar to that but it clicks real good, the colour is the same as a regular analog stick.

[@shanebarnes4622]

Thanks for doing the Lord's work

[@IBiohazard25I]

Just wanted to say that I replaced my sticks twice one with a nunchuck stick and then I went to Xbox one control sticks I gotta say I absolutely love the feel of the xbone sticks. The indentation that it has makes easier for me personally to do certain techniques especially thing like waveshineing when I do it on a normal gamecube stick my finger slips right off and I end up flubbing a lot.

[@zenithSSBM]

you got them to work? i always heard they dont fit and mine certainly didnt. whered you buy yours?

[@deadbones123]

zenith SSBM same, mine certainly didn't

[@jaimemendoza3820]

Can you someone give me the link to the best one cuz he didnt attach ANYTHING :((

[@dredahalomaster1]

I recently bought colored gamecube sticks from a vendor called Zedlabz, and their analog sticks are pretty decent and they fit/work well...however the C-stick didn't really work too good since it felt like it would grind against the inner parts of the controller. So if anyone is looking for colored sticks or just replacements, you could check them out if you wanna be cheap. However you're probably just better off buying a controller from Ebay and scrapping it for parts

[@connorplays6263]

Funny enough the five below that I have been to a few times. I have never seen any GameCube controllers there... Though I don't know if that should be considered a blessing in disguise LOL

[@CherryPie0nRS]

This is a great video. Just wanted to add that you can use a PS1/PS2/maybe PS3 dual shock joystick caps. I have a friend who plays Tekken and prefers the feel of the Playstation grip. They fit no problem.

[@zenithSSBM]

with no modification to them? thats amazing!

[@TheGlunk]

Man watching this video got me super excited since I have an ancient third party GC controller made by GameStop that was overall trash but the sticks were amazing, but as it turns out the sticks in those actually can't be put on a regular GC controller due to the completely different shape of the hole in the bottom of the stick. Thankfully it's smaller and not larger than on a regular GC controller so if I really wanted to I could file it into the correct shape. TL;DR if you want replacement sticks don't buy a Gamestop brand GC controller.

[@ToeM8]

I hope this helps someone. I go through analog sticks like crazy. my thumbs must just be destructive. lol. so I brought 5 pairs of the zedlabs sticks thinking they would work as replacements.. but I have that issue where the head of the analog stick hits the body of the controller, and feels 'gummy' when playing. My solution was to cut a small piece of a cotton wool bud, and stuff the inside of the analog stick fitting so that it was permanently more raised off the board. Now, the only contact with the controller body is the neck of the analog stick . works good.

[@PapaJefeYT]

FYI on those first Low Tier sticks that have the 'Mushy' feel that doesn't click, I found a solution to at least make them manageable. The socket that slides onto the stick-box is actually a little too deep. If you put just a little bit of paper into the hole, and then slide it on the stick-box, it gives it the extra height it needs to not totally suck. Still not a perfect option obviously, but I was able to at least get a couple of my raw-stick, C-tier controllers a 'casual-friendly' refurb.

[@zerosubscriberswithoutsubs7542]

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[@Slipdash]

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[@Slipdash]

Awesome, I might get one now.

[@Hack3r91]

right, good solution.

[@corpJJ]

Great video man. I'm a big fan of the gamecube controller and also have a crazy obsession over them. I'm currently in the process of purchasing and trying out all the different custom button providers out on the market. All of this information is great and very well organized! I'm a big fan of the way you layout your gamecube controller videos. It's super good for those who are looking into making adjustments to their gamecube controller but don't really know what they are looking for. There's a discord out there for gamecube controller modders / specialist and I think you'd fit in just right. I know it sounds like advertisement, but there's just so many little tidbits of info in there that makes it worth the time to look through. LMK if you're interested and I can PM you the link.

[@RndomLife_Moments]

corpJJ hey i am a gamecube obsessed modder myself. i would like to join the gamecube chat!

[@corpJJ]

Oh geez, I can't send you a PM. Maybe some other form of messaging can be used. Do you have a twitter?

[@RndomLife_Moments]

yes my twitter is @rainuva_

[@corpJJ]

Just shot you a tweet man!

[@RndomLife_Moments]

corpJJ got it thx!

[@yoitslemonboy6988]

the mushy feel can be solved. you have to put a little piece of paper into the hole on the bottom of the stick so that when u put it on to the controller it lift its up slightly so no contact is made with the controller and the rubber to get rid of the mushy feel

[@andremsmv]

I know I'm two years late but I just wanted to give a quick PSA about the cheap ebay control sticks. If you cram a tiny slice of paper into the hole of the replacement stick you can make it taller so that the rubber top does not interfere with the shell of the controller (this might take some trial and error to get the desired height). This will give it that nice click and in my opinion feels a little bit BETTER than the official Nintendo one since it is grippier and more durable.

[@yungpepto]

I know this vid is kinda old but for any thumbsticks that don’t “click” an easy fix for them is cotton swabs. Taken a bit of the cotton and stuff them into the sticks. Add or take out as needed.

[@arthuroliveira03]

What do you mean? I do this to pressure the stick? Or putting the cottom on the controller? Dont seem to work out

[@Queensbloodbath]

I only have one gamecube controller and my brother got it from a friend. That friend had dogs... anyway so I need new sticks. This helped soo much. I will use the nunchucks sticks until i can get a better controller or sticks.

[@miepee4811]

Wow, so much useful information! Now I now what to do with my broken nunchuck!

[@zenithSSBM]

:D

[@swigtimefoxy4422]

What about the controller used for super smash bros on the *n 6 4*

[@boooooooga]

my gamecube is coming the 18th im exited!

[@rreprah9515]

Where would one buy official replacement sticks?

[@randytyson]

Ive had 2 controllers i havent used in ages due to bad sticks. After 12yrs ill be able to use them

[@AkiraSatou]

I was quite lucky to find a GC controller straight out of the box from 2002, I had it tucked away and found it recently after going through my old gaming stuff, playing on it is absolutely fucking sexy, the L/R shoulder buttons glide so smoothly, and have a sexy click for a digital press, the left stick feels so smooth, but it has a click for every gate corner and it feels amazing to dash forward and then wavedash back, it's the controller I use for tournament play, and practicing, I feel bad that this isn't the standard, but that's just how it is :c

[@jdemuro1]

Very informative video. Exactly the sort of examination I was searching for. Thanks a ton for this.

[@zenithSSBM]

glad it helped! :)

[@TheSimhook]

I'd also be careful with using nun-chuck or wii classic controller thumb sticks due to the width of the neck being a little bit wider then them the actual OEM thumbsticks, so it'll hit the plastic of the controllers shell before a gamecube thumbstick will.

[@davidbessex6685]

hey man. I do like your videos. they are basic and easy to watch. keep it up. can't wait to see your next video!

[@Twinrehz]

Hey, I hope this message comes through to you, because I've come across a *REALLY* annoying problem with my original Gamecube controllers. I've taken one apart for maintenance (bought the entire console with two controllers off a friend, they were kinda nasty after 16 years of use), and that all went just fine, I only needed to replace the analog cap on the left stick, no biggie). The problem is, after reassembling it, the board that the C-stick sits on feels loose when using it. I've checked multiple times, I've not missed any screws or anything, but I can feel how much the board moves around when using the c-stick. I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe this didn't happen until I took the controller apart to clean it up. I didn't need to put a new cap on the C-stick, it was just fine after a bit of cleaning.

[@zenithSSBM]

hey! would you mind sending photos of it to me over twitter? tough to tell just from text unfortunately

[@Twinrehz]

@@zenithSSBM I'll see if I can take some good pictures/clips of it.

[@getbacktotrackwithyuya2302]

I've got some third party thumb stick and yes, those gave me a mushy feeling because edges are touching on surface of the controller. So I shaved off and sanded tiny bit from the controller surface and it worked great almost as good as official ones. But those are just cheap and break so easy for playing smash. So I just got bunch and changing almost every other week. This is still cheaper than get a new controller and I don't need them because I have 7 controllers that still works but thumb sticks...

[@hajisaiku]

Well one option you have but it can get a bit expensive is making your own gcn sticks by making the molds and using epoxy resin or if possible melted plastic if that wont destroy the molding

[@devildeggz]

To be honest i prefer having a c stick instead of a normal stick because its easier to go to the dpad quickly Mainly because i play mkwii with it and you need the dpad to do tricks

[@90snathsgameplays89]

Rybellion analog stick can still do tricks.

[@SpankinDaBagel]

The taller stick on the nunchuck lets you hit perfect firefox and wavedash angles easier. You will lose some dash dance speed though.

[@Hitokiri_Ace]

fyi.. That 'click' is because the thumbstick rubber is contacting the plastic shell before the shaft hits the edges. Aka, the shaft length of the cheap sticks is too deep. Stuff a couple small bits of paper in the joysticks shaft and it'll space it properly. ..but that doesn't help how quickly the rubber deteriorates.

[@i2HClan]

I love the wii nunchuck sticks. For some reason I love the taller stick. I feel like I have more control

[@puunk_9240]

I personally love the taller sticks in nunchuclks because they are smooth in the center and i like that, also I have really poor sensory in my fingers so the taller sticks provide easier fine input at the price of longer travel times. This does help me in melee and pm but its a much bigger benefit in SSX games. Just wanted to make that clear because I assume most people here are exclusively interested in smash performance.

[@zenithSSBM]

Puunk_ they definitely have a unique feel and i actually really like them! just like the originals more haha but I definitely see the benefit they can have!

[@n00000ra]

Early 2000s nintendo had no clue what kinda beast of a controller they had made and what it would become

[@n00000ra]

Yote ur scrote

[@Jaeflame94]

Thank you so much, you helped me understand a lot about modifying the controllers and earned a subscription!

[@D3mO44]

I bought a wavebird once that had these replacement sticks in it. I wasn't very happy about the non-clicky feeling of the stick so I decided to file down the bottom edge of it. I kept doing it until every direction was clicky. Certainly no where near as good as the OEM sticks but better than the feeling before. It's too bad there isn't a vendor that makes sticks that are halfway decent.

[@unmellowthegamer8946]

why don't people 3d print a new case with the perfect angles in it?

[@unmellowthegamer8946]

yes this comment has nothing to do with the video

[@AkiraSatou]

@@unmellowthegamer8946 Costs more than just cutting away at the gates of the Control stick

[@GraveVT]

Since you said a 3rd party controllers have bad deadzones, could you be able to solder off the old analog sticks and solder new ones? Figured that would make a crappy 3rd party controllers a little better

[@HystericalHuntress]

Short of getting OEM sticks somehow, some of those multicolor thumbsticks are good. It's SUPER hit and miss. I bought three packs of black buttons and sticks. Of all of the sticks, 2/3 rub on the gate and feel awful but one of those fuckers I swear to god has as much click and comfort as the OEM stick. It's solid black and more flat up top than rounded like the OEM, but it's around the same height, clicks the same and generally feels good. I have it in one of my GCN's that had the rubber on the OEM stock stick rub completely away. It's not my main controller, but I've played a lot of Melee and Ultimate on it and I can report that performance wise it's fine. Short of rolling the dice on online aftermarket sticks, the best thing you can do is as he said in the video. Buy broken controllers and gut them for parts, sometimes people will sell 1st / 2nd Generation GCN controllers used on Ebay that are in good condition for $30-40. They usually just need a clean and are good to go. I just got one for $35, once I cleaned it I was playing Melee on it. Without UCF it shield drops fine on the left side and has decent dashback, so even without UCF it's usable. Gamestop also sells them for around $35 but unlike the Ebay method you can't actually see what you're getting. The Gamestop controller may have a worn to shit or wobbly stick, or in some extreme cases may be a mistaken identity case where they ship you one of the more aesthetically convincing knock off controllers. Ebay is definitely the best option, be it for a fully functional controller to actually use or a broken down one for parts. The next best thing you can do is gut a Nunchuk from a Wii and use that stick. Those BattleBeaver ones can ride down on the stick too far to the point of feeling awful and even when they sit right they have a TON of snapback. Nintendo could make a killing if they'd sell OEM thumbcaps and buttons, but it seems just like the controllers themselves.. they have no interest in doing so. Thankfully when it comes to buttons and triggers, the 3rd party options work out a lot better. The controller I mentioned above with the black thumbcap also has a set of extremely cheap black buttons and triggers in it that all perform about on par with stock parts. There's way less room for error when it comes to buttons / triggers.

[@Adolin.Kholin.]

I just used a broken wiiu gamepad to fix it, now it works amazing.

[@Pslamist]

Was this a good long-term solution? I forgot that I have one of those, and could really use the two sticks it comes with... Hm.

[@joe_morris]

IMO, shorter sticks are better because usually taller sticks take longer to get the control stick to 100% thus taking longer to dash dance and giving it a longer reach.

[@Javtastrophe]

So all the first party sticks you have came from broken controllers?

[@zenithSSBM]

Javtastrophe lmao no im just a loser and actually bought around that many (a few are from broken controllers tho)

[@shocknawe]

Awesome vid! Very informative. I'm Quite obsessed with controllers myself, so this really got me ideas. Thanks!

[@spicytacos_08]

The classic wii controller's sticks also fit on the gamecube controller

[@drowsemary]

i got an in package gc controller for $15 at half-price books

[@user-ni7ui7hs8c]

My friend bought a gamecube (like new) and 2 official controllers for 50$ that's crazy!

[@monkeymart]

Half-Price Books is stupid. They never have anything, then all of the sudden they have exactly what you need and they're your new favorite place.

[@red-man7017]

How resilient are gamecube sticks exactly? Like, i'm a smash ultimate player with mr game and watch. I don't wavedash or do crazy melee- esque stuff but it worries me

[@McOuroborosBurger]

I might be putting original duke sticks in one of my GC smash controllers. Want to see if it works.

[@trashlybin151]

I actually bought the first 3rd party analog stick replacements you showed off, You're getting that mushy problem with them because you pushed them down too far. If you don't force it down all the way, it will be pretty close to an official analog stick.

[@trashlybin151]

Of course official is always better, but if you need a quick fix or you just want a better feeling controller, it may be fine.

[@KingBat]

I use a nunchuck thumbstick, I like the extra hight, it feels weird playing with a regular stick because I'm so used to it.

[@ragingmex5442]

I don't play melee but I play 4 and ultimate and I can say (at least for ultimate) PDP's 3rd party controller is pretty high quality

[@ph1lny3]

How do you feel about replacing just the caps? It's hard to find ones strictly for the GCN, but I'm wondering if the diameter of other console controller stick caps can fit onto a GCC?

[@valduuzz]

People on etsy do sell caps for the sticks

[@MsShadowLugia]

Is there a link to get the official replacement pads?

[@t8wl404]

I thought I was the only one who noticed this, all my friends called me crazy.

[@RonDom1]

I've been using the Wii pro controller sticks same as the nunchuck but black for years now. I heard snapback can be an issue with them but I don't have it

[@aby1967]

I've heard of a ps3 stick also working but I have yet to see how well it performs

[@electrocast]

i didn't know where to ask something like this, but i'm interested in swapping out the gamecube d-pad for a broken wiimote's d-pad that i have. it fits in the shell, but the pad is too short on the bottom, so i want to try & create a "spacer" to make it fit. i have some thick foam board that i can cut, would that work?

[@genericfirstnamegenericlas6490]

I bought two 3rd party NGC controllers for $15 each about 2 years ago. They were pretty good, the silver one had a good dead zone but reached all degrees, and they lasted for about 9 months. I was playing with the other controller that survived and then the stick started making a crunchy-crakily sound and then the stickbox inside literally snapped.

[@zenithSSBM]

make the switch to official! you wont regret it lol

[@genericfirstnamegenericlas6490]

zenith SSBM Oh, I already have two official NGC controllers now. One of them was the one we used through child hood and the other is good too though I need to solder in a new stickbox. I think it used to velong to a melee player.

[@zenithSSBM]

ohh nice, happy gamecubing then!

[@SKsuprakirby]

I got two NGC controllers, one has the rubber, the other had is own all worn out. When people plays with me i lend them the one with the rubber and keep the worn out for myself. Maybe i'm used to play without the rubber. I never had issues with it as long the plastic doesn't break.

[@tony-_-doge]

Is the cut out in 2:46 really not important? I feel like it is for some reason

[@JackanFor]

SUPER SMASH BROS MELEE IS THE GAME OF THE VIDEO KZbin ACTUALLY GOT SOMETHING RIGHT

[@sumireneso5341]

Yo you deserve way more subs, this content is amazing

[@zenithSSBM]

Phoneguy 21 thanks man! always trying to improve

[@SanDiogoLima]

Is it possible to use the nunchuck analogs instead of the GC one? By that I mean swap the entire analog, not only the rubber part.

[@cutemimi25]

Yes it is

[@neorunic]

i got metal caps on my control sticks to stop any issues with rubber wearing down