Replacing a Hydraulic Loader Valve

[@TechGorilla1987]

I'm really happy that you're one of the KZbinrs that don't burden us with crappy montages full of terrible music in the interest of theatrics. You're more about the knowledge and I really appreciate that.

[@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin]

I will emphatically and whole heartedly agree! (Just what is it that makes some youtubers dub crappy music over everything? Do they think they're gonna get to direct the remake of 'Gone with the Wind' by using crap youtube music to blot out what little they had to say?) Can't count the number of channels I dropped solely for dubbed over music.

[@imdeplorable2241]

A--men to that.👍

[@LinuxJedi]

i hate it when people do that on paranormal investigation videos and you can’t hear shit ..

[@sampatel5509]

Yes, I Fast Forward or move on.

[@greggb1416]

I have loved Wes’s “describing hands” (as I call them) since I first started following the channel. Of the many others things I love about Wes, is his excellent ability to describe function, flow, etc., of equipment, parts & pieces..., so that “even a caveman such as myself can understand it”... Had to “chuckle” when the phone went off, and Wes was frustrated... He has had many other situations relating to repairs that would have had me cussing like a sailor, and the phone call brings out his frustration... Great video, Thank you sir.

[@SeersantLoom]

Not just a phone call, it was from a different country on the other side of the ocean. Something must be up (collecting/mapping/hacking phone numbers?) because I've got 3 similar calls in about 2 weeks. One of those was +33... code as this one here, not the same number though.

[@adamdnewman]

@@SeersantLoom French Whine Scam? Maybe exploring a new scam

[@Bobsutubes]

New control valve - $265, installation cost - $$$, electrical tape holding bandage on - priceless. Great video Wes.

[@chrisw73]

Being an electrician for the last 16 years, I've made plenty of electric tape band-aids and can attest to their effectiveness. Great vid again Wes, love the engineering on the valve mount!

[@fixins]

Lots of field experience has proven to me a paper towel wrapped in electrician's tape is the best band-aid there is. Functionally anyway.

[@WoodNMetalWorkshop]

@@fixins been doing that for years, actually more years than I care to admit.

[@douglascunningham9196]

Thumbs up!👍

[@TechGorilla1987]

I am allergic to most band aid products, so paper towels and electrical tape still rule with me.

[@LisaMedeiros-tr2lz]

Another interesting edition of Watch Wes Bleed.

[@ramosel]

Thanks for taking us along on this project. Quite a transition over the last year from barely running, only turned right, drawbar tractor to a fully functional little earth mover.

[@jeanclaudevandam4974]

I love the electrical tape on the band-aid to keep it from constantly falling off. Such a simple idea but so effective.

[@DarkFlamage]

You must not work on much stuff. I've done that for years, but who has time to ask mommy for a band-aid?? Grab what-ever tape you have close at hand, and man-up!

[@jeanclaudevandam4974]

@@DarkFlamage I would say I don't work on stuff too much man. I just didn't realize the good idea. But thanks for commenting

[@jeanclaudevandam4974]

We got a tough guy here

[@bobleeswoodshop7919]

I always put the band - aid. First than used the electric tape to hold the band - aid on ! I was electrician .

[@mobileu47]

REVstoration had a similar issue on a Ford V8 blowing out filters. They changed the oil pump and it fixed it. The relief valve had stuck and causing over pressure.

[@denniswilliams8747]

I have seen the same thing on a Ford pick up, I dont remember the year.

[@wssides]

@@denniswilliams8747 Chrysler 2.2 litre had the problem briefly. Mopar filters could stand the pressure but some other brands failed and leaked.

[@siemenstraffic]

The early Isuzu Troppers and Rodeos 4 cylinder gas engine had a problem whit the bypass valve getting stuck in the oil filter adaptor and blowing out the o-ring on the oil filter. Replacement of the oil filter adaptor solves the problem.

[@ionracer24]

Interesting 🤔

[@wilbertbirdner1303]

Well then, This may not be the last video on the Oliver OC46...

[@anthonydefreitas6006]

I didn't understand anything you said about the pump and still enjoyed every minute of it. Excellent work Wes.

[@ronaldheit196]

Another awesome get around the problem vid by you Wes. You certainly have a Saints patience working on some of the vehicles you repair. That one was one long headache after headache series we subs sat back and enjoyed watching. You control over not having to beep every other word is outstanding

[@littlewingpsc27]

I was waiting to hear Mrs. Wes call out into the shop, "Hey Wes, have you seen my new nonstick brownie pan? I can't seem to find it". Thanks for explaining how the valves work. After using electrical tape on the band aid, I half expected to see duct tape on the welding glove to seal up that split seam.

[@mikenonameneeded3485]

Hey Wes, the lighting in your shop looks great! Im watching on a 65" and the picture is perfect. Great camera

[@srlstephen8465]

For somebody who doesn’t like hydraulics you sure seem to know a lot about them. Very good explanation of the function of that valve. Thanks for posting.🇬🇧

[@WatchWesWork]

Comes with the territory.

[@BrodieBr0]

When I retire soon I'm going to start restoring vintage/antique earth moving equipment and tractors. Something I always wanted to do but working to to pay the bills never gave me the time or energy. Videos like yours Wes are going to be a god send for me when it comes to fabricating and repaing them. Thanks so much for the videos!

[@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin]

Just buy something from the last century. You'll enjoy the particularly blank stare you get at parts counters.

[@jasonstinson1767]

Check out Squatch253

[@BrodieBr0]

@@jasonstinson1767 haha yep Already subscribed to him friend! Also letsdig18, Andrew Camatra, Halmiltonville Farms, Diesel Creek, Jpaydirt, MartyT, and HeavyDSparks. if you know any others feel free let me know. Take care and stay safe!

[@BrodieBr0]

@@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin I'm a farmer and fabricator. Through my life, Ilve built the means the means to get or build parts for pretty much anything. Bying something newer and functional would totally defeat the puropse and statisfaction I'd get from bringing an old piece of equipment back to service. We all enjoy what we enjoy. You do you, friend.

[@jasonstinson1767]

@@BrodieBr0 mustie1

[@Rmasters33]

I like the idea it's a stuck pressure relief valve. I've had success cleaning up old motors, gradually, using Rislone additive. And the Fram filter could be a contributing factor or all of it. In my opinion, they have the cheapest of the cheap construction.

[@Boga217]

Orange can frame is definitely junk especially the old ones, but modern fram gold and silver filters are actually quite good. Quite a bit of independent research out there on those teams and it all comes back pretty positive.

[@charlierumsfeld6626]

Filters have valves in them too

[@FishFind3000]

@Joby Fluorine they tend to have more pleats of filter material inside and to a finer micron rating. That is what the difference between wix and wix xp filters are at least. You can find this on the specs of the filter.

[@999torino]

@Joby Fluorine I have to strongly disagree with you on this. There are a bunch of KZbin videos where people tear down, measure, and inspect various filters and the difference in quality is plain to see. I don't know who makes the filters for WalMart, so I can't comment on that, but there is a huge difference between good quality and ElCheapo filers. I also make it a habit to ask professional engine builders about their opinion, they dont use WalMart or Fram orange death filters...

[@bluegrallis]

It was a stuck by-pass valve on the oil pump. It went over 200 PSI when it was cold. I put some Sea Foam in the oil and it has helped some, but still goes to 160 on a cold start, but drops back to 60PSI after a couple minutes of warming up. I may end up dropping the belly pan and oil pan to get that fixed. The by-pass oil is what lubes the timing gears.

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

Great job on replacing the two control valves. Explaining open center & closed center.👍 I quit using those two, three spool valves. One spool quits you need to replace whole thing. I use the individual banks now. I know that two spool valve will probably out last the machine because it not being used 20 hrs a day.

[@jrbpit1]

The Oliver excavator has become like an old friend. It’s like a good friend from college or high school that you see just a few times a year. Glad to see hit your shop. Awesome work fabbing up the mounting bracket. It’s a pleasure to hang out with you in your shop.

[@tomdecker2185]

Love the the way youbtook the time to explain the different systems. In my shop when you get scrapes and cuts it costs more on the bill. $100.00 for cuts, $200.00 for scrapes, triple if hydraulic are involved. I agree with you. You are going to get the fluid everywhere but where it suppose to be.

[@CJS6611]

Hi Wes, Chris here from UK. Your explanation is an inspiration to people like me doing work. Keep up the shows they are extremely useful.

[@MoraFermi]

If it continues like that, you'll need to build a dedicated garage to house that poor lil' thing! Very nice and informative video, Wes.

[@flstf96b]

Your tutorial on open versus closed hydraulic control is very much appreciated! Short and succinct, perfect!

[@malanvogt]

I've said this before but I wish I had a mechanic like you in my area.

[@pipefitter1728]

A couple of things, 1. First time experiencing a blown oil filter and using a funnel without remarking how much you hate funnel’s! 2. Good use of electrical tape on the boo-boo, duct tape is for the stitches required cuts! 3. As usual an excellent and informative video! Keep up the great work, can’t wait to see your next one!!

[@mikec6831]

Once again, a great project! I have two tractors with hydraulic loaders and had no idea how the valves actually worked until your explanation with in this video, so thank you!

[@transdimensionalist]

good old fram living up to its reputation!

[@daveatman2989]

Loved watching the Oliver come back to life. Great job!

[@giggiddy]

You may not know how fortunate you are to still have your dad to go to for things. Enjoy every minute with him my friend...

[@greavous93]

The folks in France have been trying to get a hold of you because the warranty on your red pickup is going to expire and you will be responsible for all future repairs.

[@WatchWesWork]

Hmm. That would be a bad deal. I'll call them back.

[@daverunion2162]

@@WatchWesWork Not to worry. They will call again… & again… & again… etc.

[@JosephArata]

@@daverunion2162 And send you spam mail to your house month after month after month.

[@greavous93]

@@JosephArata they called me for the billionth time last week. I played along and let the guy "verify" my truck so I made up a fairly new vehicle and they guy "approved" me then forwarded me to one of their "specialists". So I held on. This chick with an accent named Julie came on the line and tried to get me to buy the extended warranty and when she stopped talking and waited for me to reply I said "Julie, what are you wearing?" I thought it was funny. She hung up on me right away. I figure I can waste their time just like they waste mine. Hell, when my phone rings and its them my called ID say SPAM THREAT

[@michaelferik8060]

I am surprised you have not been notified by several different people that your Norton antivirus subscription has been automatically renewed and your account will be debited.

[@russorpcom]

Your explanation of open and closed systems was very easy to follow. Nice to see that old machine more usable now with the new valves.

[@mikeaho4143]

Great vid Wes. Love the education on valves, very useful information. On a side note, you might look at horse stall floor pads to prevent crawler type equipment to damage your floor. A local guy near me uses them and they work great at preventing damage to the cement floor. Thanks for sharing

[@ohcrapwhatsnext]

Why i enjoy your work is because, you are very clean when working and or your shop in general...Organization is important when fixing anything... Clean environment to me is priceless....Good work....

[@robbybachmann332]

Thanks for taking the time to explain how the valves worked, it helped me learn allot.

[@David-bs6bv]

As someone who was familiar with hydraulic systems on a fundamental level, this was very informative! I know what the pump and swash plate do thanks to AvE so that was easy to follow.

[@leegoetsch8335]

Props for taking the time to explain hydraulics.

[@kellygb9278]

Whenever you present us with the task, I try to second guess you on the fix & I always fall short (Nice Bandaid)

[@tutekohe1361]

Despite your claim of disliking hydraulics, you have done a beautiful, tidy job on this Wes. I personally dislike BSP fittings and far prefer JIC, but sometimes it’s better to stick with what everything else is on the machine.

[@montestu5502]

At the end when you were moving around dirt I had memories of playing with Tonka trucks in the sandbox as a kid.

[@markdavies9912]

Maybe Bend the control levers a little to stop them interfering with the hose when in the float position? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@douglasjreynolds]

Nice job on the Oliver. Thanks for describing the control valve configuration.

[@phooesnax]

Great work Wes. You have an amazing amount of knowledge!

[@jackrichards1863]

That explanation about the hydraulics was worth viewing. I'm almost a complete novice, and with your help Wes I can understand well enough to fit an open centre system to my tractor now. The hardware is another matter, but we have the circuit nailed.

[@ronaldsimmons8346]

Love it. I sent you that hoodie last year with a note that said green for Oliver, and ironically the first outing is on an Oliver. I know you probably didn't get the note from the shipper, but glad it worked out and you can put it to use. cheers.

[@WatchWesWork]

Well thank you! There was a note but I guess I forgot about it.

[@DarkFlamage]

Where can I get one of those? I heard they work great for mopping up oil spills! 🤣🤣

[@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin]

@@DarkFlamage Just filters the hydraulic sun-block before it self-applies to the wearer.

[@jcanzurlo]

Oil filter blew out never seen that before? Oh wait, its a Fram. Thanks for the explanation on the valve learn something new every time I watch you.

[@bluegrallis]

I figured out the problem and it wasn't the fault of the filter. The relief valve on the oil pump was stuck, letting the oil pump build enough pressure to blow out a 60 PSI gauge. Instead of removing the skid plate and oil pan to fix it, I added some seafoam to the oil and put a 200 PSI gauge on it. It still pegged the gauge out (well over 200 PSI ) on a cold start (below freezing), but after it warmed up, it would run 25 PSI at idle and 40 at WOT. It no longer peggs the gauge out on start up, so I figured, setting in my shed for 14 years may have had something to do with it sticking.

[@butchbailey8565]

Great fix to replace spool valves. I’m surprised at only $200 + cost for new valves. (($1000 real cost in labour} This OC46 is My all time favorite project. I want You to do a follow up show a year from now to see the machine in action. Thanks!

[@bluegrallis]

Maybe I'll invest in a decent vid camera, and do some clips of Scoopy working for my channel. Or Wes, can come over here and do a video when I get a little bit of practice. He's home here and tucked in the shed for now 😁 Canardly wait to push something over 👍

[@davedemo8229]

nice paint job. Leonardo de Krylon. i worked on unimate industrial hydraulic robots for years and learned more from you on hydraulic theory. great video

[@Chr.U.Cas1622]

👍👌👏 Extremely well done again (video and work). I like this little crawler. As always: Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health to all of you.

[@donaldbassett9748]

Wes hi i was a mechanic over 40 years before all these new stuff was around for tools what I, am getting at is you got your shit together don't let the pea on,s bust your balls they have no right your live on tv there not i watch your channel not to learn but it brings back memories Great job quality work WES [ WEAR SOFT SOUL BOOTS CONCRET ROUGH ON THE KNEES ] TAKE CARE

[@danhunik7949]

I have found that an ultrasonic cleaner works great to clean up all the carbs on my small engines.

[@imacgst27]

Great video as always Wes. I can only imagine what the cost to fix the old girl was between parts and labor 😳. Luckily someone wanted to save it and let you give it a new life. Thank you again

[@fredericnorthrup9246]

Float feature is good for back blading. Thank you for explaining the many pieces of iron that has been apart of 60 odd years of my life.

[@davetaylor4741]

I didn't know I wanted to learn how different hydraulic systems work. But after your instructional video I now understand the basics. Helps with my never stop learning ethos. The only problem might be that I am coming of the age where my thirst for knowledge may be over powered by my ability to retain it. Now what was that video about.

[@richardspees841]

It's a Fram filter. I've seen them with split seams on many occasions. I would use old socks stuffed in a tomato can before I would use a Fram filter on anything. [Edit: Thanks a lot for the explanation on the different types of hydraulic systems - closed center and open center. ]

[@WobbleMatic]

Super video, education, sarcasm and oil on the floor. What more could one want?

[@michaelblaszkiewicz7283]

I remember the days when Fram was good.

[@randeesreality1]

Blood,burns,& misaligned holes. Thanks for keeping it real. 👍🏻

[@dennisburcaw7158]

Love the fact that even though you were working inside, you capped the lines. I have a box of caplugs just for that purpose. Like the tape bandage too!

[@drue6360]

I keep watching waiting for the day Wes really lowers himself to the level of the rest of us techs and uses full out cuss words when his project hurts him. I have created some of the best cuss words from working on projects that bite back.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Very cool information on Hydraulic Loader Valve systems @Watch Wes Work

[@TheFurriestOne]

I had a filter-seal pop on my grandpa's truck once years ago, not because of an issue with quality of the filter, but because a technician at a cheap/fast oil-change place didn't remove the seal of the previous filter from the block! They cranked it down hard enough that it sealed and went down the road for a good long while, only to blow while climbing a long steep hill going out to the dump one day. So it blew, dumped every drop of oil, and my mom (who was alone in the truck at the time) kept on driving to the dump, got there, and called me to ask whether she should shut it off! I told her yes, we had it towed home, I refilled it with oil, and it started up just fine! Then oil gushed/fountained up from one side of the engine and we shut it off quickly. It took one more trial-run with me looking underneath but I finally saw where the oil was spewing from. After that it was a simple matter of replacing the filter, peeling the doubled-up seal off of the block, and topping off the oil. Shockingly, it ran well for years after that! That old '83 F150 worked hard on minimal maintenance for years! But yes, Fram are cheap junk. Still, better the filter that pops than the lines!

[@rockcrusher4636]

I always put new clothes in the closet for 10 years, then I always have something new to wear if I die. In my 65 years experience, Monkey INC. parts hardly ever work as well as original, always worth the extra buck, you have to pay for the original engineering. Love that educational mechanic language. Cheers.

[@toolwarrior1773]

.....and when the stash of band-aids in the house is just a little too far away, break out the Scotch Super 33+. I typically reach for the painters tape, myself since it unwraps easier, but electrical tape is more flexible for all day work. I love how you are just "one of us guys" Wes.

[@ksokie63]

Good little video to watch and eat supper too. Thanks Wes, Have a great weekend 👋

[@jazzerbyte]

There's nothing more satisfying than a clean surface after oil leaks are sealed.

[@lsxbird7874]

I work in the vacuum truck industry, building new equipment and deal with hydraulic systems every day. Its all fun and dandy when its dry , and your neatly routing hoses . But wait till you find out your brand new hyd pump, motor, or the worst a spool valve is defective or was incorrect/ non suffucient part loaded out in the bill of material by a wonderful engineer, and all the oil in the world spills out on you, your tools, and a nice new truck you just built 🤣😂. I really do love hydraulics though, making all my hoses run so nice and neat, and seeing a pile of parts do things is awesome

[@phooesnax]

Great work. Is there a stuck relief on oil pulp maybe that was supposed to dump to pan or was filter defective?

[@stxrynn]

I always learn something watching you. I was tickled to hear of your disdain for hydraulic oil puddles. Just like the 'splody oil filter finding a new hoodie, oil puddles find my clean floor. Like clock work. Thanks for the quick edumacation on hydraulics. An old mentor used pulleys and wire rope but that was long years ago.

[@robertbullcarmichael9856]

Its called the "Orange Can of Death" for a reason. Awesome job and great to see it working good.

[@masseymm]

awesome job, just binge watched the entire series

[@kayneahnung3661]

I love this oliver project. Simply because it shows off your skills - it is not just about replacing parts with this and that....

[@josephclark9087]

Hey man thanks for uploading this video--not only did you help me gain confidence in my ability to replace the hydraulic valve on my JD 950 tractor, you also taught me a bit about basic hydraulics operations. Can't wait to have a dry garage floor soon myself!!

[@governmentcheese2257]

I learned more in this one half hour vid than i did in the last 10 years. Thanks for sharing!

[@Republic_ofTexas]

I love your channel. Great content. I watch and learn. Trying to get up the nerve to change PS pump on my 65 Tempest. Love your brutal honesty, your family values and your dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@richardpeoples2887]

Great series on bringing the Oliver crawler back to life, I realize it was probably not cost effective, today's skidloaders would outwork the crawler, but it is what the customer wanted and he was willing to pay you to do the work. I have been working on and using Oliver tractors for 50 years, but never spent anytime working on crawlers. I think I will stick to tractors.

[@handyhippie6548]

i've built two log splitters, and replaced the hydraulic valves and hoses on my '54 massey 33 using parts from the surplus center. prince valves are definitely the way to go, and you can look for a month of sundays and not find a better price on hydraulic parts than theirs. you can't beat'em with a stick. i love those guys!

[@robertdominiczak6523]

Your face when your driving that loader is priceless fantastic video again.

[@corbingray9330]

That's a classic fram oil filter move, blowing out the seal that's never supposed to blow out😂 as a fellow Illinoisan, I relate to your vids and have learned so much. Keep up the great work wes!

[@willbesquared6260]

I sand blasted the oil filter housing on a 6.9 diesel I rebuilt back in the day..didn’t get the check valve sealed off well enough and got sandblast media in it..that sucker would pop an oil filter like it was bubble gum..great video on the hyd. valve!

[@woodstock048]

Interesting that you mentioned Baum Hydraulics, I used them for sawmill hydraulics in the ‘70s. I had lost the contact but when you used the name, BINGO. And, years ago I built my own trailers, same supplier. Thanks and BTW, they have been in business 140 years.

[@TheJstewart2010]

Thanks a lot for the very clear explanation of how the hydraulic control and valving works in both open and closed center systems. I always learn something cool and new with every one of your videos.

[@akfarmboy49]

Thank you for explaining all different flavors of hydraulic valve controls I think I have one of those projects in my horizon. Good video thank you, I woke at 3 am could not sleep. I’m in New Zealand on my way to Antarctica again.

[@WatchWesWork]

Wow. That's a hike!

[@rennkafer13]

@@WatchWesWork and a fair bit of swimming.

[@jensschroder8214]

The little caterpillar is now really fun. This is good for small projects or where the big ones don't fit.

[@bobcarry4820]

I love your band aid, same type I use. Normally only use when blood keeps getting on my work and tools.

[@The-Deadbolt-Deputy]

Great explanation of open and closed center.

[@arthurbiringer5676]

Great job! Just seems like the Oliver doesn’t want to leave your shop! It loves you!

[@Jay.Tee.H]

Great deer blind sittin content! Many times I've used electrical tape for a bandage.

[@michaelseymour3534]

Excellent work on the bracketry adapting the new loader valve.

[@farmerpete5936]

I like the black electrical tape band aid. I've used them a number of times while working in the field.

[@scottgm321]

Your shop is just like mine. Nice and clean floor then open the overhead door and every leaf in the county get sucked in.

[@jimdieseldawg3435]

Excellent stuff, Wes 🙂 Another Ollie lives to work another day. Your hard work and ingenuity paid off in spades 🤟🏼

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

I thought you were going to say the guy wanted the original controls mounted on that new value. What the hell Wes you might as well do it. I'll give you 👍👍' s for that video.

[@ernmeister54]

Nice fab job. That's how you make the older equipment live again;)

[@Farm_fab]

Wes, there's just nuthin' like rustproofing under the hood.😜 I recently bought some parts from an older Hustler mower, so I'll need to go through and remove all the old hydraulic hoses as the pumps and motors will be repurposed for my tractor.

[@neiloconnell2120]

Go on admit it. You really wanted to call the channel Watch Wes Play, right? I am so jealous. I don't need a little diggery thing, but if I did I would have done just what you did. Have a play in the sandpit. Loved the explanations of high flow versus high-pressure valves. You know your stuff Wes.

[@gillgetter3004]

Nice valve mount, thanks for the explanation of how they work. I’ve used them for years but had no idea how they worked!

[@chrissmith513]

I really like that little jig you made for the Hydraulic Valves !! 👍👍👍 I use to make contraptions like that for the Golf Course !!! ⛳

[@htownblue11]

Wes if you simply wouldn’t put so much pressure on that little excavator to perform, it wouldn’t blow out filters. Hahaha. Another great glimpse into the story that is your daily life, and the skills and humor you use on the journey.

[@BigFarles]

Very cool video. Thanks for showing us that process.

[@BlackCoinCrypto]

Great video, Ripped thumb, scam calls, holes not lining up.... the fact that it's Friday keeps me going.

[@TimMcArdle]

Nice explanation of hydraulic operation. It can be a very overwhelming and confusing topic.

[@darylnicklen242]

Thanks Wes great to see the project finished. On behalf of those of us not overly familiar with hydraulics thanks for your total explanations makes us feel totally included. Always hanging out for the next vid. Injured finger and welding burn Just little reminders that you did the Job.

[@joehill1538]

Awesome work man. I was looking for some guidance on replacing a valve on a 730 Ford loader. This helped me out.