Replacing My Trek Remedy With A 2023 Fuel EX?

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I've been a Trek fanboy for a while. I seriously love my Remedy, and have been riding Remedys for a few iterations.
So when I found myself dreaming about big wheels, my first thought was to get the Slash. But every description of that bike boasted about its race capabilities. I wanted something more playful. I wanted a 29" Remedy
And then BAM: Trek dropped Parallel II.
If I paused the video at just the right moment, I could see that Brandon Semenuk and Kade Edwards were riding something special: a yet to be released bike, obviously capable of big hits and playful antics. That bike turned out to be the 2023 Fuel Ex (Gen 6)
And somehow I convinced myself having never ridden the bike that it would be my next bike.
As the video says, I'm still not so certain how I feel about it. I still have to dial this bike in before I can make any decisions. In the past, I've hopped from one generation of the Remedy onto the next, and immediately felt at home. Thats not the case here.
But I am excited to try and dial this thing in.
As it's shown in this video, I have the bike set up as a 29er front and rear. I have the Yellow token in the rear suspension (set at 24% sag) and two tokens in the front (set at 24% sag).
I've since mulleted the bike out, dropped a larger token in the rear and removed one from the front. I'll keep you posted on my feelings toward the bike as I continue to get more rides in!
In the meantime, let me know your thoughts? Remedy vs Fuel vs Slash?

[@anthonypooran8566]

I have the gen 6 9.8 xt on order at the moment, due date is 05/12/2022 at the moment so in the mean time I’m on my giant trance x advanced pro 1 live. Looking forward to the arrival.

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Oooh! What color did you get!?

[@anthonypooran8566]

@@DustyTrailsMTB it’s coming in mulsanne blue.

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

I saw the blue in store. Soooo jealous! That's gonna look 🔥

[@anthonypooran8566]

@@DustyTrailsMTB haven’t seen colour in the flesh, will be changing brakes to tech 4s and possibly tyres. Can you give an honest opinion on the bontragers? Current uk conditions in mind are damp/wet and muddy. Tempted to try them first.

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

@Anthony Pooran I tossed my Bontragers pretty quick. I wasn't liking them on the loose sand covered rocks of Moab. I tossed in some cushcore and Assegai tires and am much happier. Took me a bit of work to get this bike feeling the way I wanted. My experience with the Rwmedy was that it always felt good right off the shelf. I was expecting the same with the fuel. But im starting to understand and like this bike!

[@dakotapettit4544]

Both videos… great riding bro! Just ordered a Fuel Ex 8 Gen 6 today. Got it for $3,800. They hooked me up!

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Hell yeah dude! That's a hell of a deal! You gotta be stoked. Where are you taking it first?

[@dakotapettit4544]

@@DustyTrailsMTB heck yeah man, put a few nice upgrades on it with the money saved. I live in Wisconsin so just some local trails to break her in. Then out to some ski hills a bit north of me

[@no11477]

hehe 3064$ here 😅

[@plmn93]

@@no11477 Just paid $2800 for mine. Too good of a deal to pass up. Not convinced I'm going to keep it though. I am still kinda partial to my Gen 4 which is lighter and more nimble with a plusher ride.

[@elliotgaulin5217]

Hey man, I'm kinda curious what do you think about your Fuel Ex. I know you weren't sure about it in the bike park at first but you also said that you needed to ride it more. In the end, what's your opinion about it and what setup did you go with ?

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

I'm thinking about putting out a video on the topic, but it's hard to put my thoughts together. I constantly find myself saying "this is the best bike I've ever ridden". The bike is a beast. It does climb really well, and feels like a true trail bike. It's just so much more capable than the Remedy all around. But I do sometimes feel under-biked. As I charge harder, I sometimes wish I had something like the Slash - Especially in the Whistler Bike Park (and I'm not even riding the big stuff). I love the bike enough to have talked Anna into buying one (she rides hers in a mullet configuration and loves it). I would buy this bike again. But maybe I am a two bike kinda guy? Anyway. Hope that helps for now.

[@mbilly333]

SICK!

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Ol' Faithful! Much appreciated!

[@ashwinamanna2465]

For small person who wants 27.5", any thoughts on the XS/S 27.5 Gen6 compared to late model Remedy for do-it-all nimble trail bike?

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

How small are you? My wife is 5'4" and on the XS Fuel. She opted for the 29" wheels and has been riding it as a mullet, and really loves it.

[@ashwinamanna2465]

@@DustyTrailsMTB I'm 5'4" but long legged short torso..I'm on a small 2023 5010 MX. I don't really like the mullet and miss the snappy cornering of full 27.5. Also I don't feel very confident on the 5010 when it is steeper, rougher. I'm not sure if it's the MX or the modern geo. Which is one reason I'm looking at remedy.

[@ashwinamanna2465]

​@@DustyTrailsMTBI just looked at the geo charts of the small 29er with mullet. Didn't realize how the reach is so much less then the regular small 27.5. I'm going to look into this config more. Thanks for the idea

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

I would always recommend demoing a bike to check out sizing and fit. But the fuel does handle all types of terrain better than the name Fuel would suggest. I would have NEVER contemplated buying an older gen Fuel. But I LOVE this one

[@logankurtz1933]

You really think it’s a dad bike? 🥲

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Haha. I dunno. I'm just trying to be out in front the trash talking! It's hard to be cool at my age. Regardless, this bike rips!

[@jonthesailorman]

Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing some long term Fuel EX content. Sick footage so far 🤘

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Thanks bud! Do you own one, or are you thinking about getting one?

[@jonthesailorman]

@@DustyTrailsMTB I’m running an overforked Top Fuel right now that’s a ton of fun, but I’m really considering going FEX

[@TwoHeadsBrewing]

I had the same thoughts after having a Remedy since 2010! Still have my 2017, but I ended up getting a 2021 Fuel EX 9.7 (130/140mm). It was a great bike for trail rides, but on the rough trails and big hits it was a bit of a handful. Almost the perfect all-rounder! Then I moved to a Ripmo AF which is my current ride, and what did Trek do??? Yep, more travel on the Fuel along with ditching proprietary stuff and updating the geometry. I love my Ripmo but have an eye on the new Fuel...thanks for the stoke!

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Hahah. I know that feeling. I love my bikes, but I always have a wandering eye!

[@mariopazmino160]

Dude, I watched both videos and those are fast and gnarly trails were you ride.. but you looks very confortable with the new Fuel Ex. I think IS the ONE bike for everything, What do you think?. I usted to have the Slash and is just a superenduro bike, too much for me. I has a remedy, but I prefer 29 wheels. Do you recomend this bike?

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Thanks bud! These trails are sweet! I can't say yet if I recommend it or not. I'm still working through it. I miss that extra 10mm of travel in the rear that the Remedy Had. But I'm working to dial in my suspension to see if that makes a difference. Most of the time I felt like I was on a super capable bike. Felt amazing! But I was always disappointed when I felt that bottom out.

[@mariopazmino160]

@@DustyTrailsMTB thnx for the giving back... I sea you can also try a Coil shock un the rear, maybe that help..

[@tntexplosivefighter]

@@DustyTrailsMTBNice vid! Did you found the ideal suspension set-up yet to prevent the bottom-out?

[@joshking3267]

Did you mullet the bike out?

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

I did after this ride for a short period. I found the benefits of the smaller wheel didn't outweigh my love for feeling that big rear wheel claw its way up and over obstacles. So I'm riding it as a 29r now. My wife rides her size small as a mullet. But she took my wheel to do so, so now I don't even have a choice!

[@joshking3267]

@@DustyTrailsMTB did you add a coil?

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

@joshking3267 I didn't. I've considered it, but the suspension is one of the places where this bike shines. The tune of that rear shock is so good, I am afraid to spend the money to potentially make the bike worse. Know what I mean?

[@joshking3267]

@@DustyTrailsMTB you have the float x on there?

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

@joshking3267 yessir!

[@AlbieVas]

I have a 2020 Fuel EX with DVO, I just added a Yeti SB150 and it's only a tad bit better ... The Fuel Ex is the all mountain king

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

You should try this new EX. I think it's way more capable than the previous iterations. I mean, that's my 2 cents

[@AlbieVas]

@@DustyTrailsMTB i saw it a few months back... it's looks sick.... put the EX into the lower position and it is Rowdy

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

@AlbieVas heck yeah bud!

[@AlbieVas]

@@DustyTrailsMTB this was after 9 long runs lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGXYhJ2CfNV7otk

[@javierbarrientos1082]

Hi! I'm about to get my new bike, and right now I'm between an used Trek Remedy 9.8 2020 and a brand new Fuel EX 7 Gen 6, I see that those models are exactly the ones you have. What would you recommend me to choose?

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Can I ask how much you're spending on the used Remedy? I love my Remedy. But this Fuel feels like an evolved version of that bike. I'd go with the newer bike for the more modern geometry with the knowledge that you can always upgrade components as needed.

[@javierbarrientos1082]

@@DustyTrailsMTB sure! the used remedy is about 4,000 USD and the new Fuel EX 7 Gen 6 is in 3,699 (not sure if that is the one you have but is the one under my budget), I'm also looking at the scott genius 940 2022

[@douggore1431]

Which build did you get? I'm torn between the ex8 and the 9.7.

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

I got the 9.8 because it was the only build available. But i swapped out enough components to make me wonder if I should have built up a frame - but that was also not an option as they were unavailable as well. For you, it depends on whether or not you like the idea of carbon and how long you want to hold onto the bike. If you're the type of rider who will hold onto this frame for years, you could always go with the 9.7 and upgrade components in time.

[@MrSupermugen]

The new Fuel Is a considerably better bike than the remedy, remedys sizing is all up to F. I tried riding my remedy after buying a fuel and it just feels totally out gunned now

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

What kind of settings are you running?

[@MrSupermugen]

@@DustyTrailsMTB on what? the fuel?

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

@@MrSupermugen on the Fuel. I'm running it in the "more progressive" setting. I'm 200lbs and have always run my Remedy at my weight. But the Trek calculation says I should be at 213lbs of pressure, so I'll try that on my next ride. I'm in a mullet conversation now. Still debating if it's worth losing that rollover of a 29" wheel for the added playfulness.

[@MrSupermugen]

@@DustyTrailsMTB Im about 210lbs, running pretty much bang on Trek's calc. Im the same, progressive but am running mullet. Best change was upping to 160mm in the front with neutral setting in HT and high in the rear. on the 9.8 with grip 2 damper upgrade.

[@swimmer751]

Listen at 1.25 speed. Normal x 1.00 speed sounds unusually slow.

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Ha! Sorry. I'm a bit slow. That's just me I guess.

[@swimmer751]

@@DustyTrailsMTB Bro I'm so sorry i thought is was an audio glitch! >.< Love the video info :)

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

No worries dude! I wish I could ride at 1.25x the speed!

[@swimmer751]

@@DustyTrailsMTB Bro thank you again for your great video. Took the plunge and ordered myself a Trek 9.8 GX this morning. Much appreciated! Going to upgrade the dropper post to an AXS.

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

@Sebastian R. I think you're going to love it dude! This bike is feeling pretty good in the Arizona/ Utah chunk!

[@mtbjunarell1545]

Nah. I like remedy better.

[@DustyTrailsMTB]

Yeah. Not sure how I feel. I don't think I'd tell anyone to go sell their Remedy for the new Fuel, thats for sure. Have you ever had a 29r? Or ridden the Slash?

[@mtbjunarell1545]

@@DustyTrailsMTB Nope. I love my remedy with upgrades. Will probably change my tire thickness to 2.5 that would change the speed a little bit. Im a short guy 27.5 really fits me if ever probably mullet.

[@ashwinamanna2465]

@@mtbjunarell1545 I'm on the small side too (5'4"). I am so on the fence for Small 29er Fuel Ex gen 6 in mullet config, Small Fuel Ex Gen 6 in dedicated 27.5 with 160mm fork, or late gen Remedy Small