Replacing the Amecal meter (and others) rotary selector plate.

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@Northern5tar
@Northern5tar 6 жыл бұрын
It needs at least a USB3 to get Dave interested. Love your "It's okay to break stuff" philosophy. How many childhoods would have been so much better if all parents understood this.
@anidnmeno
@anidnmeno 5 жыл бұрын
It isn't so much that we were breaking stuff, it's what we were breaking.
@absurdengineering
@absurdengineering 4 жыл бұрын
My kids know it well: you break it, you fix it, or at least actively participate in the fixing. It worked thus far as a strategy :)
@stephenlamley541
@stephenlamley541 2 жыл бұрын
Mine had to i was breaking so called unbreakable toys at 6 tonka. I was hard work.
@stoffol1
@stoffol1 6 жыл бұрын
7 seconds into watching this video, I've got coffee coming out my nose. Thanks Clive 👍
@ZaphodHarkonnen
@ZaphodHarkonnen 6 жыл бұрын
I did have to pause to let a giggling fit pass.
@nemisis010
@nemisis010 6 жыл бұрын
You come to expect a few quips like that but that one caught me by total surprise.
@jafafa
@jafafa 6 жыл бұрын
So you're saying weakness in your shaft made your knob go limp. It happens to us all eventually, Clive.
@mattakudesu
@mattakudesu 6 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it. I was going to say almost the same thing.
@alanhunter2051
@alanhunter2051 6 жыл бұрын
My knob fell off when it fell face down on a concrete floor. lol
@pulsey2001
@pulsey2001 6 жыл бұрын
@@alanhunter2051 What was you doing in the garage with a full m~watt?
@Chlorate299
@Chlorate299 6 жыл бұрын
Springs are quantum objects, if they gain some velocity it's impossible to know where they are.
@brk932
@brk932 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, a particular pseudo scientific field of mathematics claims it might transform into a Scotsman cause the extra dimensions are "wrapped" up on themselves. Everybody knows a Scotsman have more than four observable dimensions after an unwrapping and uncorking.
@aserta
@aserta 6 жыл бұрын
Managed to find one about the same size that took off when i took apart a complicated pen once. That was the highlight of my day.
@gordonlawrence4749
@gordonlawrence4749 6 жыл бұрын
Elderly physics professors are also quantum objects. They know where they are or what they are doing but never both at the same time.
@gordonlawrence4749
@gordonlawrence4749 6 жыл бұрын
It has been postulated that a Scotsman after a sufficient amount of scotch can be observed to be nearly in two places at once though there is some overlap.
@gordonlawrence4749
@gordonlawrence4749 6 жыл бұрын
I have an alternate postulate. Movement needs energy. A compressed spring has potential energy. Therefore it is possible that they use this potential energy to go at very high speed to wherever all the bic pens and teaspoons end up. It does seem to fit with the evidence because wherever the teaspoons and bic pens end up nobody knows.
@Whigu
@Whigu 6 жыл бұрын
I like to watch bigclive videos because he is honest and humble. If knobs get limb he doesn't scare to admit that and he shows us all how to fix it. What a nice guy!
@blurredlogic916
@blurredlogic916 6 жыл бұрын
"I was playing with my meter when suddenly my knob went limp" Perfect. Opening. Ever.
@TDG2654
@TDG2654 6 жыл бұрын
"... when my knob suddenly went limp." I think you should see a doctor for that.
@Whigu
@Whigu 6 жыл бұрын
No need if you are like bigclive and you can fix it yourself...
@Kineth1
@Kineth1 6 жыл бұрын
Just jam some PCB around your shaft and between your balls, slather it with epoxy and you're back in business!
@inspiringengineer
@inspiringengineer 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!!!:)
@BEdmonson85
@BEdmonson85 6 жыл бұрын
The easiest way I have found for placing little ball bearings and springs like you show around 11:00 is to apply a bit of thick grease to the locations they're meant to be and then put the bearing/spring into the grease. That will hold it there long enough for you to get the cover back in to place without them rolling all over the place. Hope that helps someone! :) Thanks for another fine video! Take care.
@salukispeed93
@salukispeed93 6 жыл бұрын
Both Clive and AvE have broken knobs? What are the chances
@twotone3070
@twotone3070 6 жыл бұрын
Greater than you think, sadly.
@Electronicle
@Electronicle 6 жыл бұрын
Some vaseline usually helps to hold the balls in place until you can get the top put back on.
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 6 жыл бұрын
So you’re putting Vaseline on your balls so as to insert your knob.
@Electronicle
@Electronicle 6 жыл бұрын
@@JasperJanssen lol
@WaltonPete
@WaltonPete 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't put Vaseline on plastic as it can cause degradation due to the petroleum content. Better off using some silicone grease.
@carldavis8228
@carldavis8228 6 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha, some folks thought you were talking about the meter!
@robertgaines-tulsa
@robertgaines-tulsa 6 жыл бұрын
That sounds gross for some reason. Now, they are talking about using silicone grease. I should get some of that. Not for my balls. What is silicone grease used for? I assume it's for plastic gears. I wouldn't know if that is for motors or the like.
@brendafantastic2259
@brendafantastic2259 6 жыл бұрын
Stop when the knob goes soft. Always good advice
@problemwithauthority
@problemwithauthority 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Clive. One tip that I learned over the years is when working with a spring and ball detent I dab a tiny bit of silicone grease with a toothpick to hold the ball on the end of the spring. It helps. And don't forget the magnet to help find springs that take flight.
@ljprep6250
@ljprep6250 6 жыл бұрын
Feeding a little blue pill down the 10A hole didn't stiffen your knob? Oh, well. Best you do the vas. // I've torn bits of electromechanical stuff apart ever since I was 4, and I couldn't help but notice that we tinkerers have something in common: prehensile digits. We hold things in one hand with 3 fingers and use the other two to dab the solder in while the other hand brings in the iron. And the fingertips learn how to thread things right side up, upside down, backwards, and sideways while another holds down the washers. It's truly a blessing to be able to do this, and it amazes people who watch us. I get a knowing grin watching others do this. // Thanks for all the years of wisdom earned that you put into the videos as tips for us. We do appreciate it.
@locouk
@locouk 6 жыл бұрын
How many double ended entendre’s can fit in a short video? 🤔😂
@gazzaka
@gazzaka 6 жыл бұрын
Or, go for gold and throw in a couple of triple entendres....
@BRMBug
@BRMBug 6 жыл бұрын
HA-HA! Multiple entendre! [/PhilKenSebben]
@adamsfusion
@adamsfusion 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that finds Dave to be a complete knob. I just feel like it's less of the art of the craft to him and more about showing off his silver spoon collection. That's fine if you like those things, but it snobbery at best.
@absurdengineering
@absurdengineering 4 жыл бұрын
Dave also seems to know surprisingly little about the world at large - he unapologetically mispronounces place names, for example. In the age of Google and KZbin, there’s little excuse not to at least attempt to sound like giving a fuck or two. Meh. The technical content is also spread fairly thin. I still watch it occasionally because I can suss out the little nuggets of worthwhile knowledge, but it is becoming more and more in poor taste. “Noblesse oblige” used to be a thing - the higher you get on the ladder, the more you can afford not being a prick…
@lloydgarland4667
@lloydgarland4667 4 жыл бұрын
Dave may be a Fluke fanboy but he's a professional engineer and he makes his living with them. Great video Clive, lots of useful information as usual.
@magic.marmot
@magic.marmot 6 жыл бұрын
I love that you found the design weakness and fixed it. I also love that you and AvE managed to come across similar issues on the same day. :)
@BritishAdam
@BritishAdam 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see the AMECaL resurrected, watching your videos made me go out and buy the ST-9905 for myself as it seemed so robust and suitable for pretty much anything, best multimeter I've ever bought!
@namespacetoosmall
@namespacetoosmall 6 жыл бұрын
Same here. I love the Amecal (and the fact that it turns off automatically).
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 6 жыл бұрын
@Adam RDL Yup, me too. My wife and sister-in-law clubbed together and bought me an ST-9927T for my birthday. I asked for it specifically because Clive had shown them to be such good value for money.
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 6 жыл бұрын
@@wjb2 Touch wood... oh, my!
@MrChief101
@MrChief101 5 жыл бұрын
I *did* enjoy seeing that little spring vanish-- such a warm and familiar feeling! That's why I always pick up springs with tweezers.
@Loscha
@Loscha 6 жыл бұрын
I used a $25au meter for a long time. I got a 2nd one, exactly the same, because I wanted redundancy, and sometimes you want current and voltage. When one of those was stolen, I went and got exactly the same meter. I was given an $80 meter for my birthday later that year (from the same company, Jaycar's house brand), which didn't have autorange, and didn't have nanoamps scale, and didn't have the same higher range on the frquency counter. It was mostly just that I didn't get a more name brand one (but, at that time, 13 years ago, you couldn't get meters that were name brand and in my hobbyist budget in Australia). I'd've loved a really swish brand name multimeter, but for my basic home keyboards, synthesizers and guitar pedal tinkering, having 2 cheaper meters was better than one expensive one. I still have those 2 cheapy meters, though. They've lasted over a decade, so I'm happy with that.
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner 6 жыл бұрын
It's all about getting the most bang for your buck. When your equipment earns an income, it's different from when it's nice to have. Cheap meters can be handy in any case, especially when there are several places you might need one. Heck, for a lot of purposes, a bulb, a wire and a battery would be perfectly sufficient.
@greaser5691
@greaser5691 6 жыл бұрын
The only real advantage to the 'big F' is that you can get a calibration house to calibrate them and give you a certificate that allows you to use them in AS/NZ9001 environments. In that case you can afford to wait a while for the reading to come up :) All 3 90's vintage F'87s I had anything to do with had display problems. We'd send them away and the service agents would replace the zebra strips ($arm+leg), they'd maybe last another year.
@noelj62
@noelj62 6 жыл бұрын
In Clive's video we have: a shaft, some nuts, and a tight screw. Educational on all levels.
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner 6 жыл бұрын
Would it be worth reinforcing it while new rather than waiting for it to start failing? Especially if you have it all apart anyway. Oop. 8:52
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 6 жыл бұрын
@Против Глобал Yes, a zip tie, or wrap with wire and some epoxy drizzled.
@ZilinaSK
@ZilinaSK 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a manufacturer supplying spare parts... this should be the norm rather than a surprise. All the stuff that ends up in landfill due to a small but necessary part breaking is criminal. I always attempt to fix any broken, damaged or faulty stuff... and with a little ingenuity there's not much that can't be fixed :-)
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I do the same. You can even make spare parts yourself if you have to with a 3D printer.
@lloydgarland4667
@lloydgarland4667 6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes Dave and his Flukes! He's using his own branded meter at the moment though, not seen him use a Fluke for quite a while. Great video Clive, floppy shafts etc always make me smile :)
@boonedockjourneyman7979
@boonedockjourneyman7979 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the way you lower the entry barrior for young people. EEVBlog is useless to that group. Snob is not the word. Arrogant, cynical and self-absorbed are better choices. Please keep it real for newbies and us old farts.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
That sums up this channel. Cheap affordable stuff to play with. And if we break it we can either fix it or scavenge it for bits.
@AttilaAsztalos
@AttilaAsztalos 6 жыл бұрын
Certainly all of those things, but snob fits very well too - the value of anything is strictly proportional with its price and nothing else according to Dave, which I find laughable. Also, just listening to him makes my blood pressure rise whereas Big Clive voice is positively soothing...
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
Boonedock Journeyman I couldn't agree with you more- I finally stopped watching when he did the lame tear-down of a coffee maker and sneered and sniveled all the way through (at least to where I stopped- I couldn't finish watching). Clive is the best!
@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994
@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994 6 жыл бұрын
@Scott Lichtsinn So South Korea is the same as China? Clearly Geography is only one of your failings.
@covishen
@covishen 6 жыл бұрын
Then I don't feel bad for my $25usd meter I picked up at a cheap tool/hardware store that has the initials HF. Here in the US. I've been tempted to see if Clive would be willing to take one apart someday.
@chrisa2735-h3z
@chrisa2735-h3z 6 жыл бұрын
Spare parts for a product in 2019? Surprising right? It Sure surprised me.
@SammyInnit
@SammyInnit 6 жыл бұрын
You try getting one. They wouldn't sell me one.
@Orxenhorf
@Orxenhorf 6 жыл бұрын
Good timing on this. It got me thinking of my own multimeter that I've not used in a while and I just checked it out to find the 9V battery bulging and in the very first stage of leaking. I got it out of there before it burst and made a big old mess.
@CyclingSteve
@CyclingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Pay no attention to Dave. I'd probably watch him if only he could come down a few octaves.
@Fuogor
@Fuogor 6 жыл бұрын
I used to be amazed that certain video players (youtube included) could keep the same pitch when speeding up the video playback. I wish on Dave's that I could speed it up to 1.25 but pitch it down to 0.5 or so!
@FindLiberty
@FindLiberty 6 жыл бұрын
@@Fuogor EXACTLY
@gazzaka
@gazzaka 6 жыл бұрын
I once tried lowering the pitch using audacity, but it was still as annoying....
@Laziter73
@Laziter73 6 жыл бұрын
Oh well.. That's what happens when you get neutered to early in life :D I don't dislike Dave, his voice is just not very headphone friendly. On the electronics part, he's quite good.. Snobbish, but good.
@BrettCooper4702
@BrettCooper4702 6 жыл бұрын
could magnets be used to hold the spring and ball bearing from the other side?
@raymondmucklow3793
@raymondmucklow3793 6 жыл бұрын
That was expert shaft handling.
@lukefitzharris3398
@lukefitzharris3398 6 жыл бұрын
Great opening line Clive, glad you got your knob sorted....
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
I finally had to stop watching EEV (Dave Jones)- just too much whiney pretension to be entertaining. Clive is the exact opposite- charming, mellow, and funny.
@FindLiberty
@FindLiberty 6 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY
@MD4564
@MD4564 6 жыл бұрын
Clive's voice sounds better too.
@kevywevvy8833
@kevywevvy8833 6 жыл бұрын
EEV blog is fine if you mute the sound. You can still pick up the gist of the video
@BenjaminEsposti
@BenjaminEsposti 6 жыл бұрын
I don't like him any more either. He went from actually doing electronics tech stuff, to just reviews and yes, whining and crap like that. (I'm okay with some whining, but he whines even more than your average woman! XD) BTW, he doesn't make as many videos, but "DiodeGoneWild" is great too!
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 4 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminEsposti DiodeGoneWild. I will have to check that out. Thanks, Ben!
@ConstantlyDamaged
@ConstantlyDamaged 6 жыл бұрын
It was Dave's attitude that was the main reason I unsubscribed from his channel. I believe it was the one where he was building his computer and kept ranting about not reading the comments because everyone's an armchair computer tech WHILE he was putting the CPU cooler on backwards (compromising airflow). He knows a lot about electronics, sure, but gosh does he think that makes him the duck's guts at everything. Rant aside, thanks for another wonderful video, Clive. I recently ordered a new soldering station based off your suggestions in another video.
@DiskFoxo
@DiskFoxo 6 жыл бұрын
Darthane ducks gut is now my favorite phrase So thank you
@PvPbomber009
@PvPbomber009 6 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoy your videos and a lot of times they inspire me to go and tinker with electronics on my own :)
@cathalpoon6341
@cathalpoon6341 6 жыл бұрын
You mentioned in a recent video which one specificities?
@charlesperry1051
@charlesperry1051 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see a meter that can be repaired with spare parts you can actually buy! I have a 25+ year old Fluke 87 that is still running strong. I don't mess with the current measurement capabilities, I use clampon CTs!
@charlesperry1051
@charlesperry1051 6 жыл бұрын
I did buy a cheap meter a few weeks ago. Our local Sears is closing and I picked up a Craftsman branded meter for $10. It is not autoranging and is not true RMS but it will do what I need. I actually used it a lot last weekend when I converted my ATV winch from remote control to use a handle bar mounted switch instead. The remote control was horrendous. Way too much lag.
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 6 жыл бұрын
Ye gotta hate when your knob goes limp.
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 6 жыл бұрын
Mm, sloppy shafting action
@stephenlamley541
@stephenlamley541 2 жыл бұрын
And limp knobs. A couple of times i had to look up. Like whst did he say.
@dhanielagung7381
@dhanielagung7381 6 жыл бұрын
the copper spring of selector is break, how to fix it or replace from what device that has the same shape ?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
The best repair is to use the correct replacement component or replace the meter.
@jaylittleton1
@jaylittleton1 6 жыл бұрын
Is this a coordinated effort with Canada? AvE also posted a video today about his Fluke flicker feeling floppy. He seemed to have had bits fall out while some other fellow was fondling his Fluke.
@stevewebb5735
@stevewebb5735 6 жыл бұрын
Great video - I was once distraught blowing up my first meter..... 1kV 1kJ capacitor bank, no series resistor, 1kV max range. The meter elevated 6" when the triggered spark gap fired the steam gun. The only thing left working was the PP9 battery, completely vaporised PCB traces. The steam gun used to do 1/2" of telephone directory on 177 pellets.
@maciekkawalkqcwski8616
@maciekkawalkqcwski8616 6 жыл бұрын
I have an EX530 that has the same issue . How do I get in touch with Amecal to buy the spare switch ?
@maciekkawalkqcwski8616
@maciekkawalkqcwski8616 6 жыл бұрын
Replying to my own question : www.standardinst.com/ seems to be the OEm for all these meters . Check them out.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 6 жыл бұрын
I broke a Fluke once. Dropped an electrical panel on it edgewise. Sliced right though the case. I was just glad it was the meter and not my toe.
@Slikx666
@Slikx666 6 жыл бұрын
So glad to see that your nob is working properly again, it's amazing what so much screwing can do...
@bakonfreek
@bakonfreek 6 жыл бұрын
First meter I ever used was the meter we had in digital electronics class. Teacher straight up said he expected someone to be dumb enough to blow up the fuse so he swapped it out for a breaker switch. Being the little shit 17 year-old me was, I thought "challenge accepted" and before the trimester was over, I not only managed to burn the switch, but I also blew tracks right off the board and cracked the resin blob. I now have my own Klein meter (bought in preparation for HVAC classes before I knew they would supply tools for us) and a $20 centech one from Hazard Fraught tools (I don't think it is RMS, but its insides look very similar to my Klein RMS meter).
@hommie789
@hommie789 6 жыл бұрын
Did i miss it or are there no battery in the amecal? How does it do continuity without a battery?
@bernhardreinel
@bernhardreinel 6 жыл бұрын
15:35 The battery is in the back half of the case.
@hommie789
@hommie789 6 жыл бұрын
@@bernhardreinel wow not sure how the hell i missed that, Vlive even mentioned the battery. Thanks for the eye opener.
@LongPeter
@LongPeter 6 жыл бұрын
Best - cold open - ever.
@randynovick7972
@randynovick7972 6 жыл бұрын
Aaah, those springs are great big huge things, really. Easy to find. If you want a real challenge, go looking for a clickspring from a wristwatch, you'll learn secrets about your flooring material that you never expected (or wanted) to know, and a better understanding of how blind dogs navigate a room.
@gordonrichardson2972
@gordonrichardson2972 6 жыл бұрын
Randy Novick My late father used to repair wristwatches. We spent many hours on the floor looking for springs!
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 6 жыл бұрын
If you really want to know about tiny springs, get into lock sport.
@abecoulter18
@abecoulter18 5 жыл бұрын
What's the Bat solder pads in the middle
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
They connect to the spring loaded battery contacts when the case is closed.
@bernhardreinel
@bernhardreinel 6 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on that current shunt almost shorting out the fuse? Did you bend it over for access to the screw? The OEM of these meters is CEM Instruments ( www.cem-instruments.com/en/ ). They are often manufactured to client specifications while sharing some common sections (e.g. input protection). But maybe they are also selling just the cases for clients that run their own PCBs, idk. My first meter was a PeakTech 3360 DMM ( a look inside: www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/200782 ) from 2010 which is a rebadged CEM DT-9919 (printed on PCB) that came for ~100€. It is based on a Cyrustek chipset, accompanied by an Atmega32L. Been quite happy with it, but nowadays i am almost exclusively using the cheap DTM0660/DME1106 based meters from Aneng, Victor, Uni-T, etc., for hobbyist SELV applications. I believe your ST-9927T also has a CEM model number printed on the PCB, but i am not able to read it from your old teardown video.
@tasmedic
@tasmedic 6 жыл бұрын
It's the BigClive Jagermeister show! More please!
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 6 жыл бұрын
I have several of those VERY cheap Yello Peril meters for occasions when I don't know what I am doing (always). My 'soddering' (just for our friends across the pond) iron slipped off it's stand and melted right through to the works. There are no balls and springs now and it's very air cooled, no fuses but it says it has. Still works and readings close enough to a Fluke for most things.
@fabimre
@fabimre 6 жыл бұрын
LOL. "Now I am older and wiser"? Older? Doubtlessly! Wiser?... Never lose your childish curiosity, Clive!
@bobmat343
@bobmat343 6 жыл бұрын
Poundland have wireless chargers for £5 each, in their Power Geek range (asuming it's their range). Wondering if you've seen them? Picked one up? I have one as of a few hours ago, it works but i'm curious to know if it's safe to leave plugged in ready to be used as needed? It does seem to get pretty hot during charging, hotter than my charger usually gets! (Charging an S7 Edge)
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
I've got one. I don't think it charges at very high current. QI charging is notoriously inefficient.
@bobmat343
@bobmat343 6 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom thanks very much Clive!
@gordonlawrence4749
@gordonlawrence4749 6 жыл бұрын
I've had a Tandy/Radio Shack analogue meter that still works right as rain since 1981 or maybe 1982 (bar a bit of drift accuracy wise). I definitely used it in my A levels as on the most sensitive setting it was more sensitive at FSD than the school's light spot galvanometer. It was very expensive back then (£83 in todays money and it was half price). I have though had meters fail like this after 6 months of hard use. Nice to find out you can get replacement rotary switches though I doubt there are any around for my first meter.
@Ni5ei
@Ni5ei 6 жыл бұрын
1:08 This has "like" 6 connections... Been to California recently?
@PhilipBallGarry
@PhilipBallGarry 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid again Clive thanks. I'm in the market for a new meter of reasonable quality (if I could afford an expensive one that would be a total Fluke). I've been looking at this model and like the fact that floppyknob syndrome can be treated rather than just binning the whole thing. Quick question though. When replacing the selector module would you suggest cleaning the tracks and wiping contacts (on the new module) with a little iso on a cotton bud - or just dropping the new part straight in?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
I'd leave the original coating on or clean them if they were uncoated. There are a lot of meter options these days.
@mikeworrell1316
@mikeworrell1316 6 жыл бұрын
That first comment was so loaded, it's banned in 7 American states.
@tybo09
@tybo09 6 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one that enjoyed sipping Jagermeister. Glad to know I'm not alone.
@nickbiss39
@nickbiss39 6 жыл бұрын
I blew up my first meter by accidentally exposing it to the field collapse from a 240/12V transformer. It now displays hieroglyphics and I still haven't thrown it away years on.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing 6 жыл бұрын
On Fluke meters, these rotary contacts are notorious for becoming intermittent, and result in the wrong mode (AC V instead of DC V), the display going blank (power off), or reading of 0.000 no matter what is connected to the input terminals. It might be CAT IV / 1000 VAC, but still not a fail-safe design to read 0.000 when connected to mains voltage!!
@johnrehwinkel7241
@johnrehwinkel7241 6 жыл бұрын
I bought one of the nicer low-end meters they offered at Radio Snack here in the states and used it for a while, but then I failed to notice that the clamp covered some digits in the voltage specification for a capacitor and attempted to meter it when it had maybe 2000 volts on it. Luckily, I was unharmed, but that meter was instantly destroyed. Luckily, I had (uncharacteristically for me) bought the extended warranty, so I took it back and they gave me a new one. I have better meters now, as well as an assortment of the cheap variety. Clive's right, they're useful when doing dodgy stuff (just make sure you don't depend on the meter to protect you), and also for those situations where you need to measure 5 different things at once.
@GadgetBoy
@GadgetBoy 6 жыл бұрын
0:06 Ahh, it's heck getting old, isn't it? On a tech note, does the Amecal have a manganin shunt?
@jayzo
@jayzo 6 жыл бұрын
I had a four pole rotary switch which for some reason was manufactured with one of the poles having the contact mechanism the wrong way around compared to the other three poles, and it happened to require me to take all of the other poles apart to get to it to fix it. Springs and small plastic parts went pinging off everywhere and I'm pretty certain that during the attempt to fix it I've raged harder than I've ever done and ever will do. Oh, and my first ever multimeter failure was accidentally shorting mains AC (left it on current mode trying to check the voltage, the meter was one that shared a probe connector for both Voltage and lower currents (200mA)). At least it was only the fuse inside the multimeter and weirdly also the higher rated fuse in the plug but I didn't have any spares at the time. Less of a failure on the meter's part, but more on mine. I've learned to double check now.
@garner6583
@garner6583 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how the color changing led's work?
@MrBanzoid
@MrBanzoid 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Clive. I've got one of these and an autoranging one as well. (And a varying number of cheapo ones depending on whether I can remember where I had them last). It's good to know you can get parts from Amecal. You can't have too many meters.
@RedQuasar13
@RedQuasar13 6 жыл бұрын
I'm envious of you since you received the Wera 2017 Advent Calendar - it's a handy set...I wish I had not missed it.
@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266
@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266 6 жыл бұрын
Finally got my Fluke T90 voltage tester delivered after sending back a Fluke SM200 in November to them, after you mentioning in one of your vids that they were being recalled. Took several emails to get them to send 1 the returns label for the SM200 and emails asking where is the T90. Any chance of you doing a video on using such probes. The ones on YT aren't in english. Thank you ! Also have a Fluke 23 meter which I am still 'borrowing' for the last 20 + years and it's never let me down.
@alexmarshall4331
@alexmarshall4331 6 жыл бұрын
hahaha ...I absolutely love your videos mate..I'm never gonna own a meter worth repairing but I've had my monday evening enhanced by a big Scotsman on an island in the Irish Sea mending his one...someone will put your narrative to music one day!!
@tyttuut
@tyttuut 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't had any of my knobs go limp, but if they do, hopefully I can do a similar repair to get them nice and stiff again.
@obsoleteprofessor2034
@obsoleteprofessor2034 6 жыл бұрын
It usually happens when you're right in the middle of something. It will scare the shit outta you.
@wood0366
@wood0366 6 жыл бұрын
There's a joke here about clicking plastic sounds when turning the knob, but I haven't the heart to make it.
@noakeswalker
@noakeswalker 6 жыл бұрын
If your old glue/pcb fix for that hex socket was still good, won't it likely last longer than a new replacement switch ? If I had an Amecal, I'd be reinforcing that collar before it broke, now you've kindly pointed out the weakness for us :o) (a round hole in a piece of FX4 pressed over the moulding and glued in place, or summat similar) I won't do any knob gags, as everyone else has already done that to death I believe ...
@seannot-telling9806
@seannot-telling9806 6 жыл бұрын
ThankYou forMeter repair 101. When I have something that has a lot of small parts I like to work with the item in a short sided box that is white. Not much help when the spring decides it wants to go out on an adventure. But as we all know. Springs LOVE to go out on road trips and looking for adventure.
@SammyInnit
@SammyInnit 6 жыл бұрын
They weren't willing to sell me a spare and insisted I send it to them and cover all costs which after VAT and return postage made it too expensive to be worth while so I bought a Vici instead. I could have had two Vici metres for the same as the cost of repair amecal quoted me. Ever since it's sat in a box in bits.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
That's a bit disappointing.
@SammyInnit
@SammyInnit 6 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Glover I asked for a spare and they said no, you'll have to send it back at my expense. It was out of warranty so I couldn't see the problem but as mentioned it wasn't worth it financially. If I'd have paid the repair costs including the cost of it new I've pretty much bought a fluke 113 and some how I doubt this would have been an issue.
@simonhopkins3867
@simonhopkins3867 6 жыл бұрын
I got a vici as a second meeter but it soon became my favourite. For a hobbyist it's hard to beat.
@webchimp
@webchimp 6 жыл бұрын
I got the Vici VC99 and been quite happy with it, perfectly fine for my hobby needs. The temp probe was handy for testing the arduino clock/temp/humidity project I've nearly finished building (nearly being got it mostly working over a year ago and really must finish it one day)
@arva1kes
@arva1kes 6 жыл бұрын
if it's going to break anyways then why not 3dprint collar around or put a metalring around it when replacing?
@jamiejoker118
@jamiejoker118 4 жыл бұрын
How much was the replacement part in this Meter
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 жыл бұрын
They supplied it on request.
@PaulSteMarie
@PaulSteMarie 6 жыл бұрын
Friend of mine from college fried his Fluke 77 of about the same age as yours by trying to measure a Discwasher static gun. Amazing how that works.
@namAehT
@namAehT 6 жыл бұрын
why didn't you 3d print reinforcement parts for it?
@vd8642
@vd8642 6 жыл бұрын
“Carry on electronics” today with professor probe and nurse shaft. Ooooooo matron
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 6 жыл бұрын
professor shaft and nurse probe
@Barracuda48082
@Barracuda48082 6 жыл бұрын
A tad bit of petroleum jel will hold spring ball pieces during reassembly while doubling as track lube. How about a breakdown and rev engineer of a quality home xenon strobe lamp..how the charging and trigger circuits work??
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 6 жыл бұрын
"when my knob suddenly went limp" ... "a slight design weakness in the shaft" Happens to us all at one point or another :)
@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266
@arthurtwoshedsjackson6266 6 жыл бұрын
Technical references - 0:04 Clive's knob suddenly went limp - 0:22 Weakness in the shaft - 0:57 Turning the knob to the extreme left - 6:22 As soon as the knob goes soft, just stop, right there and then ! - 15:46 Thick Lip around it
@paulgrimshaw6301
@paulgrimshaw6301 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, the sign of a true engineer - only tightening the screws after all the screws holding something together have been screwed in loosely.
@Tiger800xr
@Tiger800xr 5 жыл бұрын
Hello from NYC! Clive what happened to the original AMECal ST-9927T? The FIRST AMECal you bought. WHAT is the price difference between the two ? Thanks for instilling ambition to get off the couch and get my Life back! Chris NYC
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
I switched to this one because of its bigger display. It's better for videos.
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 6 жыл бұрын
Hasn't Dave got his own range? Pun intended.
@johnbouttell5827
@johnbouttell5827 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive, please review a Bang Good Hand Grip Dynamo meter. Thank you.
@divewizard
@divewizard 6 жыл бұрын
In the US this meter is sold as a Triplett 9007A
@thomasvlaskampiii6850
@thomasvlaskampiii6850 6 жыл бұрын
So I took an electronics class in college about 10 years ago. Part of that class was building a meter like this one. I, being an absolute boob, stuck the meter into the 10A mode and stuck it across the hot and neutral of an electrical outlet. Blew the 10A trace. I took it to class the next day and asked my professor how to fix it. He said, "just stick a 1/4 watt 0 ohm resistor across the trace." so I did. I've since lost the meter. Was this a proper fix?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
A bit of wire would have been a better rated fix for a blown track. But it would have worked.
@ssmedia
@ssmedia 6 жыл бұрын
I had to replay the first 6 seconds of this video a few times! haha this really caught me off guard!
@bojackh5812
@bojackh5812 6 жыл бұрын
Clive, I am wondering if Amecal did deliver that Sparepart for free? Or did they charge you for their design Fault?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
They sent it free. But I may have got special treatment.
@R4MP4G3RXD
@R4MP4G3RXD 6 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on sanwa meters?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
If actually made in Japan they should be good. But probably much more expensive than an equivalent Chinese made meter.
@R4MP4G3RXD
@R4MP4G3RXD 6 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom My thoughts exactly. Just asking for opinions since here where I live it's basically impossible to get fluke meters(even if you could they cost more than they should), and my pops said that it's a reputable brand but I haven't seen many videos of them online.
@drteeth7054
@drteeth7054 6 жыл бұрын
I come here for electronics and what do I get? A tsunami of penis, proctological and gynocological double-entendres! BC does it so often these days (ooer matron), he says them with a straight voice. I lost count after 10. Thanks mate, ROTFLMFAO!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
I'm probably being inspired by things like the classic British sitcom. The original Are You Being Served comes to mind.
@drteeth7054
@drteeth7054 6 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom Funny story about that series and British humour. I lived in Israel for a few years and Are You Being Served was a BIG hit. When Mrs Slokum said “pussy”, the literal translation, viz the Hebrew word for cat was used, which does not have a rude meaning. I always wondered why the Israelis loved it as our humour does not translate at all. Oh, you are not inspired as such, us Brits are just naturally attracted to toielt humour, especially engineers and dentists ;-))!
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 6 жыл бұрын
bigclivedotcom that’s such a weird show. The actress who plays mrs slocombe is on record as not having any idea there might be a double entendre to “pussy” and the actor who plays mr humphries is on record as being very sure that character is straight.
@yambo59
@yambo59 6 жыл бұрын
Ive worked on a lot of different styles of these ball bearing range switches, this looks like one of the more difficult to reassemble. Ive run into some that are a genuine PITA. Im one of those rabid collectors of budget and other meters, always looking for the next best design or deal, kind of a hoarders hobby--lol As a result ive had a lot of them apart to repair a friends or just to satisfy my curiosity as to the design differences and I often use grease to hold the balls on the springs - its depending on the design of course whether or not that works. Assuming theres room, I wonder on your style of range switch regarding the weakness issue with the center area if one couldnt use one of those chrome spring steel slip fit key rings for house keys to add support to that center area that wants to break. Find a key ring of just the right inner diameter that has a good snug tight fit and push it down tightly on that weak boss area using a socket maybe and epoxy it if necessary. The steel ring should add lots of support to the breakable area and take some of the torsional load off it -??? A hardware store near me happens to have the most amazing selection of sizes in these very strong spring steel key rings, some are even as small as the breakage prone center on your range switch. Thats how I picture it might be modified for added strength, but I know it might not be a workable option on your design for one reason or another as I cant see it first hand. Good video, I just subscribed - best wishes from the U.S. -
@patrickdevine6494
@patrickdevine6494 6 жыл бұрын
Clive do you fix or repair solar garden lights 😀
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
I fix my own from time to time. There are a few videos about it. These days it's often cheaper to buy a new one.
@simonsackett
@simonsackett 6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for another double entendre and you gave me one!
@BrucesWorldofStuff
@BrucesWorldofStuff 6 жыл бұрын
Yep Clive! The Video just went nuts over the limp knobs..... Lol You know that would happen... Lol As far as EEVBlog, let him buy the $1000 dollar stuff my $20 dollar meters does the same stuff... Yep I have the cheaper chinese ones and the free ones from Harbor Freight.... They all have there uses.... >:-) Great Video!!!!!!!!
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what had caused the presence of the Fluke recently. Nice video!
@Gossamer2
@Gossamer2 6 жыл бұрын
The dust specks left behind on the LCD screen... Noooooooo! 12:13
@Optrixx
@Optrixx 6 жыл бұрын
Clive I'm not certain but I do believe that a proper sized Thomson retaining ring would be just what the doctor ordered to hold the split in place in order to properly egoopulate resin upon? That's what they're called here stateside I'm certain that across the pond you have a much more charming nomenclature for such a mundane device. Cheers!
@digitalpertama1891
@digitalpertama1891 2 жыл бұрын
sir, need help selector position for sanwa pc5000
@diddyman1958
@diddyman1958 6 жыл бұрын
I missed the first 5 minutes of the video because I was laughing so hard . Had to rewind and watch again!!!!
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