Replica Rig Rundown - Trey Anastasio's 1999 Live Rig

[@Tognar]

You’re doing the lords work, I swear. This is the Trey rig nerd level we need!!!

[@jamesrategan955]

You are a madman. In the best way possible. I mean you replicated the rack case. Thank you for all of your research And passion. I could geek out on this all day.

[@jdpower6360]

Just your microphone layout alone is unreal.

[@user-jh5ou9nb2q]

As a fan of Phish and Trey for 30 plus years and a guitar player and gear enthusiast this was so incredible. Have loved your instagram and pumped for more here.

[@reeserichardson]

No octagon rug?!? Are you even a fan???

[@Daggy007]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DannyJ_2003]

Don’t you mean…a PHAN.. smh

[@b.w.22]

This is such a trip.

[@Daggy007]

This is insane... And I LOVE Every minute of it🤘🏽🔥

[@uhhmaybe]

Killer rig rundown. Can't wait to see more!

[@kevinmurtagh4996]

Man, that Leslie sounds so great. There are digital pedals now that do a great job of modeling that sound. But there’s just nothing like the real thing.

[@jez443]

I love that you chose 99, that's my favorite year. I'd love to play through this rig one day haha. Big Cypress was the best Trey ever sounded

[@crazylegscabs5659]

This is great! Fantastic job recording, filming and editing this video. I’ve often wondered about the wah mystery. RMC certainly has sold a lot of units to the tone chasers (2 to me hahaha) but in the end I think you’re probably right, it’s just a stock cry baby. Looking forward to more. ✌️

[@adamf.4823]

Someone needs to get a link to Trey. He’d love this so much.

[@hazemoss7942]

Incredible. Thank you for sharing

[@TK-fk4po]

I mean how do people obtain not just one but two languedocs??? Money aside. They’re impossible to find. When did you place the order with Paul back in 99??

[@rgvt5638]

I know a guy who owns two as well, and he said when he went to pick up the second one, Paul had like 20 husks (bare guitars with set necks) that were about to be customized. I guess he can crank them out still, which is insane. The guitars play as nice as they look, too!

[@TK-fk4po]

@@rgvt5638 I just checked his website again - unchanged since 2009!! I guess you just have to email him and EVENTUALLY you will get on the waiting list and then eventually you can get one. Kind of a like a King of Tone.

[@rgvt5638]

@@TK-fk4po right. you know, I personally play a hollowbody (core) PRS, and although it’s different, I can dial in a very similar tone with a compressor and into a Mesa amp. 25” scale is close enough to the Strat scale of 25.5” like the languedocs. And no waiting list! Still an expensive rig, but nowhere close to this replica rig lol.

[@TK-fk4po]

@@rgvt5638 Cool. My son has a PRS hollow body II (but it’s an SE.). We have a 65 bandmaster amp through a ceramic speaker and with the right settings, A Keely compressor, a tube screamer, and a whammy pedal, etc., he can get fairly close.

[@jage71]

He doubled the price recently.

[@joelmiddlecamp7185]

The series switch puts both humbuckers on at the same time. Fat dark sound. A big boost!

[@obiwanudonnome814]

I knew I'd enjoy this, but WOW is this rad! Very well done. I don't think I'd ever be able to put that '20 Languedoc down (the copper is sweet, too!). Staying somewhere with bed space for only one? Well, looks like I'm on the floor for the night.🤔🤣 Your attention to detail is definitely appreciated and I hope we get to see a whole lot more of these.

[@Sco3000]

Never realized the tractor beam sound (knob twisting) was also the DM2000.

[@zakmoon7065]

Neither did I! Assuming that it was done by twisting the nob on a small stone phaser that he had in the rack briefly in 94

[@CosmoNaptown]

This is awesome! Thank you for sharing.

[@mantashaft]

My first show was '99... so please recreate the Chula show :)

[@grosebud4554]

That baritone is insane

[@binkieruby2191]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing

[@benjaminrhule2744]

Best Rig Ever 98,98,00 Hands down

[@grant5603]

That was rad. Thank you!

[@tomblaze2]

The ‘99 Trey Museum 😅

[@cleantones]

Wowsers! Nice rig man.

[@aliensporebomb]

Do you like the natural one better or the darker wood one? Sort of like "what lambo do you like to drive the best?"

[@overlook77]

How wide are the necks on those Languedocs? Is it similar to a standard strat width or is it wider? I have also heard the fretboard radius on them is pretty flat, is that true?

[@NewPraetorianBlues]

Not sure if anybody mentioned this yet, but he mentioned in a video with Goose that for Divided Sky he would use the lead channel of the Mark amp (not sure if he mentions particular era though)

[@dcshred2]

How’d you end up getting a hold of Paul to get one built? Been on the rabbit chase for a few years!

[@BrewBlues]

That was awesome.

[@dnortonames]

Great work! I've been following this on Instagram for some time now. Thanks for doing the rundown. I have a quick question about the trance loops/whale sounds. I guess I didn't realize he was doing that with the hold setting on the delay. It seemed to me that he would use the delay to let it repeat a time or two, then use the boomerang to get them to repeat so he could stack several on top of one another and control the level relative to what he was playing with the Boomerang's volume roller. That was how I found it easiest to do it in my old, not nearly as accurate, cobbled together setup. Loop off the main rig into a whammy->Digital Delay->Boomerang. Trigger the loop to make whale noises, use boomerang to loop and stack them, get out of the loop to play over it. This was 20 years ago though, and our information about what he was doing was a lot more limited. Keep the videos coming!

[@zakmoon7065]

I still haven’t figured out how he controlled the CAE super tremolo on and off. is it in DIJ CRAP? I’ve seen recordings where he seems to activate it from the RS-10 and other times from the pedalboard right of the boomerang is this a mode selector for the tremolo or on/off switch or both? The RS-10 shows 6 labeled loops DM2000, MOD,HOLD,MICRO,DIJCRAP, and UNIVIBE. He also had 3 blank loops bellow those possibly left over from the CAE 3+ preamp and one on the top left. so I am wondering how many effects can be in one loop and I am referring to Trey’s late 90s early 2000s rig you replicated

[@trey99rig]

Good question. The DIJ/CRAP loop, I believe, wasn't put into place until Phish 2.0 started in 2002/2003. When it was put in place, he moved his Whammy and Boomerang into the same loop as the Super Tremolo. If you think of a loop as just a send>return, you can stack multiple effects into one loop as a chain. In this case the effect order was Tremolo>Whammy>Boomerang in that one single effects loop. The Tremolo and Whammy each have their own "Bypass" controls so that's probably why you seem him engage it differently in the 90s vs post-2000 (ie he had to first turn on the DIJ/CRAP loop on the RS-10 then hit the Ch. B button on the little Trem control dual footswitch to un-bypass the effect when he wanted it. They repurposed the footswitch labeled Ch. B to control the Bypass function). In the 1999-2000 era, the Trem had its own loop and the Whammy and Boomerang were actually the beginning an end of the full signal chain pre-amplifiers if that makes sense. Hope this helps!

[@GhostofPostulation]

Anyone know if he got rid of his once pedal for “Heavy Things”?

[@benjaminrhule2744]

I know some one has a Ross Compressor laying around that work’s original in box

[@michaelbanach9972]

I always come back to this for reference. Nice work! Curious what speaker you have in the DR. Thanks

[@aaronmellott7853]

Celestion Cream Alnico. If you pause at 18:17 you can see the logo's shape, but not what it says.

[@Daggy007]

I've been chasing that tone of the Leslie/Amp blend for YEARS! Do you have any recommendations on a "Leslie/Rotary" effect pedal that would allow me to step closer to that sound without buying and modifying an actual Leslie head?

[@TylerPenn]

If I were to do it, get yourself a good stereo Leslie sim pedal like the Ventilator, find a way to buffer a split your main signal post effects so you can send one to your main guitar amp, the other to the Leslie effects pedal, then use the stereo out on the pedal to a stereo power amp and get two big speakers placed on either side of your room for a nice big stereo effect. Would sound killer!

[@Daggy007]

Thank you for the reply! I'll give it a try!

[@WW-sj7zk]

I prefer cable straight to amp.

[@Sco3000]

RMC 3 put into a Cry Baby case.... the wah builder is Geoffry Teese, RMC is his company. Some of the best wahs out there imo.

[@nicof4626]

This is also what I remember reading a while back.

[@trey99rig]

Yes that's been the long standing story, but it's never been 100% confirmed by Trey or Brian Brown (Trey's guitar tech from ~1996 to 2018). It's possible he used an RMC3 in the 1994-1995 era but still never fully confirmed.

[@Sco3000]

@@trey99rig you're right it was never confirmed from Trey or Brian but the story was confirmed on analog man's website via Rudy's music shop in NYC.

[@christopherwelch5568]

How about a video on Trey's musical education? He's so advanced in theory it would be more interesting to people where he got his education in music from. His guitar isn't that groundbreaking it's just a hollow body with split coils for strat and Les Paul tones.

[@trey99rig]

Go for it!

[@drewwhitten4472]

Two questions: 1- what chord and setting on whammy did you use for the ghost loop you did? 2 - same question for jibboo loop?

[@trey99rig]

For the funk siren loop you generally use the upper right hand setting on the Whammy which is just straight octave pitch shifting. You usually just pluck any note within the key you’re playing, usually root, octave root, third, and fifth but you can mix it up.

[@GhostofPostulation]

Ahhhh the digitec 2s how he did the intro to “Light”!?!?!? Prove me wrong!!! 😂😂😂

[@skibbet21]

this old house vibes

[@woodyb3371]

wear do you buy one of those guitars by paul?

[@LichenAndMoss]

What do you mean "play us out"?!?

[@isseisherman4990]

I’ve been using DR tite fits for a while. I see mixed results for what he used. Any idea?? Crazy rig man.

[@SeanPNYSDIDA]

How much do you think this cost in total to make in completion??? Amazing stuff guys, might as well start another Phish cover band,

[@chrismichelsmusic]

purple shirt guy has 2 docs?? damn

[@brian-baker]

Need an old ClipLock strap from DiMarzio to really tie it together.

[@trey99rig]

instagram.com/p/Chvqkeru7yu/ Done!

[@brian-baker]

Haha, Awesome!

[@markwilliams142]

I enjoyed this video, but I’d like to make some corrections if you don’t mind. Here’s the actual order of effects back then. - Crybaby Wah > Ibanez TS-9 > Ibanez TS-9 > Ross Compressor > Ernie Ball Volume pedal > CAE 4x4 audio switcher (more on that later). The Ross was indeed always on, and the Tube Screamers were in front of it. Because of this order, the Tube Screamers only affect how much dirt he’s getting. They have no effect on his overall Volume (in photos from that era you can see that the volume knob is maxed on Both Tube Screamers). Because of that order, he puts the Ernie Ball Volume after the compressor as a master volume and he used the volume knob on his guitar to control how dirty the Tube Screamers were. Now I’ll get to the Rack. From the Volume pedal, the pedal goes into a CAE 4x4. The 4x4 has 4 audio loops and 4 control switch outputs. The rest of the chain is kind of odd, but I’ll try to describe why that is. There’s an interview where he explains it. -Loop 1 Input Jack > Loop 1 Send Jack: (labeled dig/crap) Digitech Whammy II > CAE Super Tremolo (the tremolo was controlled by an external foot switch next to the expression pedal for its speed because the 4x4 only has 4 loops) > Boomerang Phrase Sampler > Loop 2 with Ibanez DM200 in it > loop 3 with Alexis Micro Verb set to Reverse > back to the return jack of loop 1. From there the signal went to loop 4 containing a CAE Black Cat Vibe. He explained that the reason he put 2 of the other loops inside of loop 1 was because he wanted to be able to turn off everything inside it with one switch on his CAE RS-10 midi controller. This served 2 practical functions; he could have loops going on the DM2000 and Boomerang while his Whammy was on, and with one switch he could turn it all off. Those old units are finicky too, so loop 1 could be turned off if any of that gear had issues. And the Black Cat Vibe was after all of that because he wanted access to his Vibe even when all the digital stuff was bypassed. The switches on his RS-10 controlled the “dig/crap” loop, the Ibanez DM2000 bypass, hold and modulation functions, Micro Verb Bypass, and Black Cat Vibe bypass. The main reason for this setup was that he wanted all of his rack gear to fit in a single 8-space rack. Before this period everything, even the Tube Screamers and Compressor, was rack-mounted and everything had its own loop and corresponding switch on his RS-10 (except for the compressor and volume pedal because they were always in the chain and didn’t need loops to bypass them). This was possible because he used several 4x4 audio controllers and his RS-10 had an expander on it which gave him 6 more things he could control. He also had more gear to control. He had a rack-mounted CAE Preamp, a Peavey Valverb, and he used all 3 Microverbs. The 16 foot switches in that rig controlled 1: preamp channel 1 2: preamp channel 2 3: preamp channel 3 4: TS #1 5: TS #2 6: Digitech Whammy II 7: Ibanez DM2000 bypass 8: Ibanez DM2000 Hold 9: Ibanez DM2000 Modulation 10: Alesis Microverb (vast) 11: Alesis Microverb (full) 12: Alesis Microverb (reverse) 13: Peavey Valverb Spring Reverb 14: CAE Super Tremolo Bypass 15: CAE Super Tremolo “Chop” 16: CAE Black Cat Vibe I hope you found this informative and possibly useful. I’ve been down this path in my past and owned almost every piece of gear listed. I ended up selling most of it because the huge racks were not practical for the gigs i was playing, and I have my own sound and style that doesn’t require most of what Trey used. I love your dedication and I’m a bit jealous because I’ve still never played a Languedoc, let alone OWN one! Be well, and keep having fun!

[@kdub0529]

How did you get Paul to build you a Languedoc? I heard they are virtually impossible to get.

[@adamf.4823]

$$ lol

[@snap784217]

Tyler, what settings do you have on the Dm2000? Been working on the siren sound but it just seems off a bit. Guessing you have the whammy set to 2OCT? Any feedback you can provide would be much appreciated!

[@TylerPenn]

Input 9 Delay Time 1023 Width 10 Speed 0 Feedback 9 Dry 10 Delay 9 On the Whammy II, Trey used the upper right hand mode for 1 Octave up and then pitched it down for the Funk Siren loops. I'm hoping to have a deep dive video on this technique out by the end of Jan so stay tuned!

[@snap784217]

@@TylerPenn Thank you! I think I have it dialed in now with that info. I have the wrong year DM2000 which i think is bringing some challenges also cannot figure out how to make it slower; I think the siren is too fast but that could be user error. Pressing hold at the right time seems to be hard as well, hah. here is my version...kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaiWhIyIbbSlbNk. Looking forward to your video, I am sure it will answer a lot more questions that not only I have but the rest of the phish community!

[@scottpreizler8083]

@@TylerPenn when i set my delay time to 1023, it seems the siren is wayy to fast; how the heck does he slow it down?

[@benji6561]

What model is the cry baby wah? Is it the standard GCB95 or is this one an older version?

[@trey99rig]

Stock GCB95

[@jgfunk]

Old way...."1997". Ha. It's true though. I'm old!

[@GucciPonderosa]

Can you provide some details on the platform wood? Size? Installation?

[@trey99rig]

The one the Languedoc speaker cabinet is sitting on? I just built a 12x12x12 cube out of 1/4" birch plywood, spray painted it matte black and covered the edges/corners with black gaffers tape. Basically what Trey had, though the second box I recently built is 14" wide/deep, the one in this vid is a bit too slim so I'm going to replace it with the larger version.

[@GucciPonderosa]

@@trey99rig very helpful but I was actually curious what the platform (on the floor) that the ts9s, volume, wah and Ross are on… Also, do you still put your volume pedal first? I saw something that showed its after the ts9s Thanks for sharing!

[@trey99rig]

@@GucciPonderosa oh yeah, that's just a piece of 1/2" (I think) MDF that I bought from Home Depot, cut to size, and spray painted matte black to match what Trey had back then for that specific pedalboard. As for the volume pedal, yes, I moved it to the end of the chain so it now goes: Whammy >Wah>TS9>TS9>Ross>Volume

[@GucciPonderosa]

@@trey99rig thanks! Approx 16X24 inches?

[@trey99rig]

16"x21.5"@@GucciPonderosa

[@slickbb7]

Get your own sound from your own rig be original

[@keithadams1]

really cool stuff, thank you for sharing this. BIG QUESTION -- any idea what combo of effects creates that classic trey 99 tone from the Big Cypress Sand kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJLccnyIpqumfrs (from around 8min in) and so many other jams of this era? what are those secret ingredients? and thanks for the detailed explanation of the ghost siren loop! that is a keeper!

[@trey99rig]

Big part is the Leslie, then the octave split setting on the Whammy II. Probably a Tubescreamer and Microverb reverse effect in the mix as well. Just the best

[@keithadams1]

@@trey99rig oh, amazing man, thanks! I will try and dial that in with the stuff I have! I use an M9 for my whammy, but I am sure this is an octave split setting. would love to see a future post detailing just that sound! it really is the best. I wish trey still used it. but I respect that his rig is ever evolving and that is part of the journey he's on! thanks again!

[@keithadams1]

is that fast Leslie sound or slow? hard to tell... must be fast yes?

[@TylerPenn]

@@keithadams1 Slow for sure. Like I say in the video, I'm 99% sure Trey had the Leslie slow mode on (ie unmuted) for most for the shows in 1999. It's the secret sauce of his unique tone that year and a lot of people have speculated why it sounds that way, and I believe after having built this rig, the Leslie is the key.

[@javierjalisco17]

I call it the millennial sound(for millennium not kids w bad taste). The band is half a sphere and trey is the lazer beam of light shooting out. Although the siphoning channeling sound of 99-00 is prob my least favorite sound, he still does it occasionally I think part of fuego has it too.

[@Schlumbucketreturns]

No tone.

[@princenabby1]

Nice DDLJ to close out the rundown!

[@AP-ui7oi]

I don’t understand why people clone other peoples s rigs.

[@modelcitizen1977]

I mean, it’s a great sounding rig in it’s own right.

[@calvinbaxter7151]

You don’t have to understand why, but you should probably understand that some ppl do and like things that you don’t and just live with that:) I personally enjoyed this journey learning about the rig. V thankful

[@Fatty_Margo]

I don’t understand why you even care.

[@brian-baker]

Party pooper alert

[@Daggy007]

Because of The endless Pursuit of Tone! It's awesome!