Reported issues with Sprint P08 Air Filter Kawasaki ZX10R resolved!

[@erikfournier1535]

I like that idea with putting a slight mist of oil for the small particles that do make it through the filter

[@NoBSZone]

Pro tip! Lol

[@tokyorick79]

I ran the P08 in my 06 zx6r and to be perfectly honest I went with that filter because it’s the filter everyone and they mom was talking about. Proven Power and performance down here in St. Pete Florida did a comparison with the OEM, Sprint and DNA. His findings were incredibly interesting in that each were 1hp apart, and that was with the screen taking off of the OEM filter. Dude Mungus did the best comparison between DNA & Sprint IMO being he had it on the dyno, but also real world testing. So while he showed the dyno sheets to show the numbers, he also ran it with both against other bikes and recorded with dragy data. When entering this world of motorcycles most resort to KZbin to get information, and when as tuner or shop you have products that you sell. You’re not gonna talk bad about those products, it’s your job to sell them. When your a big name with a reputation, only a few would actually ask questions. I’ve seen first hand on the east coast with multiple guys having dirt in their airbox, and not just 6th gen Zx10r’s but 5th gen’s, R1’s and GSXR’s. At the end of the day it’s about your personal preference and goals. Not to mention the type of riding you do. Personally I’d suggest doing some real research on whatever upgrade you do, and ask questions, don’t just follow for the sake of following.

[@NoBSZone]

I don't sell these and are not affiliated with Sprint. I be first to call a product trash when I feel it is. I've personally installed and maintained 3 sprint filters with no sign of debris making it past the filter media. I agree oem filters are well designed these days and having dyno data agree buying an aftermarket filter for gains should be secondary. It's convenient is what they are. No need to order oe go to a dealer, simply clean it and pop it back in. I'll be opening my bikes up again in a bit. First sign of crud past it I will call it out. But until then no issues on my end.

[@NoBSZone]

Btw...i do appreciate the input

[@tokyorick79]

Sir the key in your statement and is very apparent in your videos is you maintain your bikes very well. I also recall hearing your in the Michigan area so I take it riding is seasonal. As well as I’d ask what type of riding do you do, and frequency? Those bikes that came in for service were in the PA/NY area where I seen dirt and debris in peoples airboxes. Only 1 had the F1, the rest P08. In none of those cases was that gasket you were referring to the culprit, but I’m not negating the validity of of your point. I wasn’t referring to you, as being a KZbinr who sells Sprints, I’m sure you’re very aware of Tuner/Mechanic KZbin content creators who do, and that’s what I was speaking to. I mean let’s be honest, today’s way of doing research is by way of Google and KZbin. My personal experience was with my 06 zx6r and being at that time I was relatively new to motorcycles I thought it was a common thing like wear and tear. Wiped my box down as I did the heat wrap mod blew off the filter and didn’t think much of it. One of the selling points besides increased airflow I believed was the Sprint filter requires NO oil to clean nor maintain. Brock demonstrated this point in Mike Davis’s Gixxala build 17 or 18 GSXR1k, and he cleaned Mikes filter with compressed air. As well as his site, which does have a nice write up on the difference’s between the aftermarket air filters. Maybe you are on to something with adding some oil to the airbox though, I do appreciate that insight. I’m not attempting to argue nor troll or anything like that. You seem to be a genuine creator with a similar passion for these awesome machines we attempt to tame. Like yesterday attending the TRC street kings event down here At Bradenton. It was an incredible event, but what caught my attention the most was what I felt. The level of passion, dedication and commitment those guys have to be the best at what they do was damn near intoxicating. So again sir I’m just here to learn. My apologies if it seemed otherwise.

[@cycle_Therapy]

My first 3k mile po8 filter check on my 21 S1000RR was very disturbing to me. Although mine wasn't as bad as another video I seen, it was definitely enough for me to throw it away immediately. I wish I had taken pics. I've been a metric mechanic for almost 2 decades now and have always worked on my own bikes since i was a kid. I installed it when I did the stage 2 flash and tune. I know it was seated properly. The 2 hp gains definitely isn't worth the compromise of all that grit getting past. Track bike, maybe. Road bike. Never again.

[@NoBSZone]

Installed one on a 2021 S1k a few thousand miles ago last fall. Will be cracking into is soon for service. Will be interesting to see the results. Im running P08 on my ZX14R and 10R both are filtering properly.

[@PaddleDogC5]

@@NoBSZone you know it's filtering properly how? You can't see what passed through it can you?

[@GingersKing]

@@PaddleDogC5Well, like the person that said too much was passing through, I'm sure they're doing the same thing...looking at the filtered side of the air box

[@PaddleDogC5]

@@GingersKing filtered side will look good because it was sucked in the engine 😭

[@jeremybly]

New channel to me. I enjoy your content. Keep it up. I really like these educational videos. It's mostly stuff I know, but I like hearing someone confirm my thoughts. I didn't have too much debris in my air box, with my P08 filter, but I cleaned it often. But I've heard these horror stories, so I switched to the MWR high efficiency filter just to be on the safe side.

[@NoBSZone]

I totally agree. Thanks man.....better stuff in works as warms.....some real cool unique content

[@jeremybly]

@@NoBSZone I'll be looking out for it!

[@AaronP220]

Nate at 2WDW says these filters aren’t worth the HP with the damage they cause. He made a strong enough case that I removed my Sprint filter and switched to BMC.

[@NoBSZone]

I agree the power gains are nominal but can you share some info on his angle of damage? I have one in both my bikes and literally no debris making it past. I be curious if filter was sealing correct as I pointed out on my findings.

[@MrJdgun13]

He is more than likely referring the sprint race filter PO8-F1 race filter. Most folks do not realize there is 2 different sprint PO8 filters.

[@NoBSZone]

@@MrJdgun13 agreed

[@PaddleDogC5]

@@MrJdgun13 race filters are to catch rocks 😆 because race engines are not worried about longevity.

[@megatron7811]

I have the same bike and filter, no problems whatsoever.

[@NoBSZone]

Great news, thanks for the feedback. Follow along have some real good stuff for this bike coming out once this weather breaks.

[@BassWhoopinFishingTeam]

I went MWR myself. Ricardo recommended it.

[@NoBSZone]

I'm sure those work fine too.

[@K-carbon]

Running a sprint P-08 in my kawasaki H2 cleans every 3500 miles along with the oil/filter absolutely no dirt etc inside the airbox checks with a very bright light I ran the OEM airfilter for 3500 miles when i bought the bike new and i couldn't see any different in the airbox if i did the P-08 be gone Im in Ireland so like not exactly a desert here.On the H2 its mists the P 08 with oil from the engine so that in itself would help normal enought anything running boost will oil the airfilter slightly Loves the ease of cleaning the P-08 main reason i purchased it you can here the super charger so much better too

[@PaddleDogC5]

Dirty filters work best.

[@PaddleDogC5]

Depends where you drive also. Marine engines have no filters😮

[@NoBSZone]

This is true.

[@rabbidbabies4094]

I just got one for my Triumph Bonneville and I’m concerned about using it now that I’ve been reading so much about debris getting in. I live in MN so riding conditions aren’t very different from yours.

[@NoBSZone]

Mine is fine. Also just serviced 2 other model bikes...both fine

[@rabbidbabies4094]

@BS Zone I ride my bike to MI at least once a year. Beautiful state. Sometimes nature wants to throw some rain at me. Is that OK with this filter? I only ask cuz I see there's a water resistant version as well.

[@NoBSZone]

@@rabbidbabies4094 yes its said to be water proof per sprint. The particle size it captures is smaller than kn or bmc. When installed properly work great.

[@karlcox7941]

It’s not the street filter that’s letting the dust in on the streets it’s the f1-85 my gen 5 had loads of dust in. Switched to mwr wsbk filter much better my opinion 👍

[@NoBSZone]

Yea I'm finding the 85 is the culprit one.

[@kupalisky3553]

would more frequent oil changes help to mitigate any damage that dust getting through would cause?

[@NoBSZone]

Maybe....but really it's hitting pistons early in intake process.

[@PaddleDogC5]

Yes but why let dust in to begin with?

[@TheHamlinHooker1]

Would lots of dirt roads matter much?

[@NoBSZone]

Yea. I mean the potential dirt that can enter your system the better filter set up you want. Also more frequent cleaning of it. Guys out west baddle sand...around here is exploded insects.

[@Rust_valley_adventures]

I use a sprint filter and I oil it with putoline air filter oil , never liked the idea of a dry air filter ,

[@NoBSZone]

Man, not sure that is a good idea. The material is not likely oil stable. May as well get yourself a kn or bmc.

[@Rust_valley_adventures]

@@NoBSZone polyester is oil resistant lol its also fuel resistant, airboxes get oil vapour in them and fuel vapor 👍

[@NoBSZone]

@@Rust_valley_adventures the material and weave, pattern what not by design isn't made to hold oil particularly. May not be bad, seeing the manufacturer doesn't suggest oil, and no issues used dry I'm rolling status quo

[@Rust_valley_adventures]

@@NoBSZone bike seems fine with filter with spray oil on it

[@HemiBurns]

Dude Mungus just ditched his Sprint filter because dirt was getting thru it on his GXSR 1000R

[@NoBSZone]

Damn..bummer. Love to see pics of it.

[@PaddleDogC5]

Spec's on sprint filter are?

[@NoBSZone]

On the webpage.

[@MrAlanstadnick]

So... I used the bmc, so I switched for p08. I tune my bike with woolich. So, I don't know why, with p08 the mix get riched, I lost power. I return for bmc, and the mix got lean again... I think, p08 only works on dyno, because you don't have positive pressure inside airbox...

[@NoBSZone]

Are you correcting the tune for the change from one filter to another? The air pressure intake sensor data is adjustable. My bikes are producing over 200hp with p08 tuned appropriately.

[@MrAlanstadnick]

@@NoBSZone in this example, The millisecond injection was exactly the same and the AFR changed as I said. I don't know why, but both filters at 12.8 afr, the bmc made more hp in my case..

[@NoBSZone]

@@MrAlanstadnick I'm saying intake air pressure is monitored by a sensor and the fueling adjusted accordingly. I would expect yes sprint to allow more air pressure past it. Put it on a dyno and inject air into ram air hole.

[@MrAlanstadnick]

@@NoBSZone unfortunately the map sensor only monitor zx10r until 50% tps. After this the zx10r works in close fuel loop (static mS injection). Nowadays, only s1000rr (2020+) and v4r works like a car ECU. Narrow bands are not fast like wideband to make the zx10r works in FOL.

[@NoBSZone]

@@MrAlanstadnick I'm not talking 02 sensor. We disable that on tuning. I'm talking intake air pressure sensor. This is fully adjustable with woolich or flash tune software.

[@PaddleDogC5]

Can't judge a filter by eyeballing it.

[@NoBSZone]

I beg to differ. You can by inspecting the box and intakes for debris.

[@PaddleDogC5]

@@NoBSZone fine silica can be sucked through a bad filter so nothing to see. So you see leaves and rocks and think it's working great?

[@PaddleDogC5]

@@NoBSZone what is the efficiency rating of the filter?

[@NoBSZone]

In sprint page. I run these machines on dyno annually including compression checks. No loss of performance on mine or any machines I service or test. The material filters microns smaller than oem. Proper installation is key.

[@PaddleDogC5]

@@NoBSZone ISO 16890 has been the internationally valid test standard for the classification of air filters since 2018. It completely replaced the previous industry standard EN 779. The introduction of ISO 16890 marked a paradigm shift. 

[@PaddleDogC5]

Silica will wear your engines if it passes your filters.

[@NoBSZone]

But it's not.

[@PaddleDogC5]

@@NoBSZone you know that how? Destroys diesel engines in sort order.

[@Jeiifijfhdjddjgkfnndjsxjcbck]

MWR 👍🏻👍🏻

[@NoBSZone]

Nope

[@blainehouser4354]

No Way. Check the MERVE rating.

[@NoBSZone]

Not a Spec of dust or dirt on inside my airbox. I'm sure it's got a rating as good as a kn or bmc.

[@paulduffield2102]

Crap filters

[@NoBSZone]

Not been any issues on my end so far. Will be opening up a handful of bikes to inspect them again here in a bit with some decent miles on them. 5,000 miles in on the Z10R and 14R and airbox dust free on both last i checked.

[@NoBSZone]

@@rrydinhigh2452 Not necessarily about the few hp. In many cases the aftermarket materials indeed do filter better. As well being able to simply clean the filter vs buying another is a bonus. A service check of the air filter takes a mear 20 minutes to do and I can assure you a quality aftermarket filter cleaned out every oil change is serving the bike better than a oem one at 12k+. The hp gains are simply a bonus. Not saying oem are not adequate as they are.

[@PaddleDogC5]

​@@NoBSZonedirty filters work better many times.