Resident Evil 4 Remake is LAME and Everyone Will LOVE It.

[@KingEgyptian]

What really annoys me is how people are now trashing the OG RE4 despite praising it for almost 2 decades and it's not because opinions change over time, it just feels like bandwagon and jumping on the hype train for yet another modern remake game that will not be talked about after a couple of months.

[@wonderwonka1774]

Yep, the honeymoon phase is strong

[@desireless4092]

It's because they sucked in RE4. Knife parry there is harder, headshots mastery is a must and you have no ez duck move to avoid strangling.

[@suparibhau]

people are trashing the og re4?

[@bruhtholemew]

@@desireless4092 Knife parry didn't exist...

[@dez87]

Cope this game is better

[@grahamallan6314]

i cant believe how many people I see saying the remake is a definitive replacement. No thanks, bro.

[@sebastiankulche]

Even for remakes that are arguably superior to the originals i wouldnt say it reemplaces it, unless the original was... well, damn terrible (but what bad game has a remake anyway).

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

if they doesn't put fire grenades and the RPD uniforms for Leone as well as the black outfit for Ada as bonus helds , it sure doesn't feel like a definitive version of RE4

[@TipoIrritable]

It definitely does

[@grahamallan6314]

@@TipoIrritable see if you feel that way when the remake of the remake comes out

[@karpai5427]

As good as Resident Evil Remake is, it does not replace Resident Evil: DS or Resident Evil Director's Cut. Those three are very different games. I also heard that PS1 Original Resident Evil for US was way harder than later versions of the game. I need to check it out. @@grahamallan6314

[@markcollins2704]

Modern developers have no appreciation for "gameplay mechanics". It's all about "realism". It sucks.

[@kazaastank]

Totally agree with you. Everyone who don't like games the way we do are subhumans at best

[@TipoIrritable]

Thats not the case tho? This remake completely upgrated the previous gameplay mechanics

[@jesseroberts1041]

@@TipoIrritableNo, it didn’t. Aside from being able to move while shooting, the melee is even worse, and ducking is absolutely unreliable/bs

[@Dqpeanutbuster]

@@jesseroberts1041Ducking in this game is good. You can duck the ganado grabs, you can evade attacks and you can duck arrows and hatchets

[@jesseroberts1041]

@@Dqpeanutbuster Eh. It’s hit or miss I found in the Krauser fight. But yeah it can have more uses if you get used to the timing for normal enemies

[@samuraispiritsx]

Thank god some people feel this way, I feel like I'm going crazy with all these people saying these remakes are peak gaming.

[@sebastiankulche]

There are a few remakes that i kind of love but most of them at least nowadays seems to be incredible unnecesary. Even the best remakes i can think off fail in a few areas such as N Sane Trilogy. The only games that should need remakes are the ones that aged poorly, but those of course wouldnt be worth it for a sales perspective.

[@christophersims6836]

The knife durability killed this game for me. The fact you have to play through the whole game and collect items only to THEN be able to unlock his original unbreakable knife is absolutely ridiculous.

[@AnakinSkywalker-u5b]

Well, they have to pad it out some way. It's also one if the laziest additions to the game. Instead of doing or making anything good they opted to go with this shitty knife side quest.

[@trashcanonhead]

Its nice to see someone talk about all of the things that make RE4 original so good. Sadly for a majority of people who play video games, the modern control schemes are essentially a requirement to get them to play, I have so many friends who have tried to play sh1 or any of the original tank control RE games and they drop them within the hour because they refuse to adapt to or learn how to improve with tank controls. I firmly believe that tank controls have their place in games and aren't just "clunk for the sake of clunk", you can't do SH1's iconic alleyway scene, or any of RE1 with static cameras with non-tank controls. All it takes is playing RE:Make with analogue controls to know this, too, you move to another camera angle, accidentally nudge the joystick even SLIGHTLY and you get stuck in a fun little 360 movement trying to fix your direction. RE4 Original is an incredibly Arcade-y experience, where you have to adapt to the mechanics they give you and learn to improve within them, and sadly most players want to be good at a game instantly, and have those skill transfer over to the next Copy/Pasted Action Shooter they play. This isn't to say that RE4R is bad, but it definitely abandoned everything that made RE4 Original so special. With every new RE remake they ship out, I'm constantly reminded of how glad I am they remade RE1 when they did, where it still stays incredibly true to it's roots, with a few quality of life improvements, instead of just making a new game inside the shell of the old game.

[@sebastiankulche]

Im mostly a modern gamer and the remake which is suppose to be for the modern generation of gamers i ended up not enjoying it at all, while the remastered on PS4 was the masterpiece everyone recommended me to play. When the OG feels more playable (especially for the modern gamer) than the remake, that says something.

[@Jack_80]

i love playing a new style of game that i suck at at first and have to learn to get good at. i recently began playing doom eternal for the first time on nightmare mode, and it's unlike anything i've ever played, and took some time to get the hang of it. it's a fps but it's own unique genre of fps. but yeah, they have many gamers wanting nothing new, just the same copy and paste style games and remakes of older games, nobody cares for something new and unique. i'm glad we have indie developers now, they are actually more willing to take risk than the aaa devs. i honestly feel like indie games are starting to surpass the aaa market. we got games like hollow knight and dead cells than are more fun and more polished than many aaa games made by billion dollar companies with thousands of employees.

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

i don't respect that kind of comment. why would you force someone to enjoy more rigid controls?

[@iamanavyvet919]

I had a problem with navigating the different areas, which were designed to confuse (and frustrate) players, I believe. In some areas, like the village, the farm, the maze in the courtyard, and the worst: the castle embattlements?! I spent way too much time backtracking, (especially while treasure-hunting) and running around like a chicken with no head, trying to figure where to go, or what to do next, especially with some giant monstrosity bombarding me with stones and wall fragments. Haha. I gave up trying to find my way to the cannon to take him out, and went back to the merchant for a rocket launcher- problem solved. (There's a reason they put the merchant and typewriter right across the walkway from where the battlements begin. They KNEW some of us would run into difficulty.) The rocket again saved my behind with Verdugo, and the blind warriors in the castle dungeon, and the two Colossuses in the furnace, AND Salazar, AND Krauser, finally Saddler's mutant form as well. Though they cheated me on both Krauser and Saddler, because they didn't die after one shot, and I panicked my first playthrough..What fun! Now trying to buy enough first aid bottles to resell later and get the IRL..YES!!

[@GenesHand]

@@daegnaxqelil2733then play other games then? not every single game needs to cater to your likings.

[@Rosa_Canina]

RE4 Remake is the hot new game right now. Give it a few months or so and people will start to love the original again. But I agree. After putting around 10 hours into the Remake I just... dont want to continue playing it. Its not BAD, but its bad in a lot of very little things, which makes me personally put down the game after every chapter and not turn it back on for DAYS, wishing I had just restarted the GC/Wii or HD Versions.

[@BWMagus]

It's not satisfying, unless you just really like challenges, like parrying the shit out of everything. The awesome, campy, enjoyable fun is removed for a game that's...fine. It does the things.

[@HorrorFan0]

Well, probably I will disappoint you because after more than a year I still play the game

[@ImAkira..]

@@HorrorFan0play better games 😂

[@HorrorFan0]

@ImAkira.. idk, I just don't get bored by the game. I am not kidding that I have more than 250 hours in it

[@Rosa_Canina]

@@HorrorFan0 Everyone's tastes are different. I haven't touched it since release but I played the OG just recently.

[@brightsuperstition]

One thing you didn't cover in this video is the remake's visual clutter. In an attempt to make the game feel more immersive and realistic, the devs added so many unnecessary environmental details and post-processing effects, whereas the original RE4 had a very simple and clean artstyle and sense of environmental design that prioritized visual clarity.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Oh yeah that is a good observation bright, there is a lot of crap all over the place in the game. Busy work basically. Yeah it's interesting because you want a detailed environment but if you just cover all these areas with random stuff, it takes away from the overall design.

[@Ocean5ix]

Which all makes the game a lot more scary and immersive. Like the Dead Space Remake. You're not supposed to have visual clarity. This is what they wanted RE4 to be but couldn't at the time. Nobody wants to make a horror game with a brown forest that you can literally see everywhere and every corner. The point of this remake is making this game better as a horror game and modernize its action mechanics.

[@ChrrolloDI]

​@Victor Vasconcellos Your point demonstrates exactly why Silent Hill 2 stands head and shoulders above most other horror games and stands against the test of time.... precisely the FACT that we couldn't see much of anything is why it had that immersive, scary atmosphere.

[@Mr_Mistah]

​@@Ocean5ix You are schilling so hard for this remake. "You're not supposed to have visual clarity" then why would I ever play the game numb nuts? Why would I spend $70 on a game that I can't see?

[@moderndespair9922]

@@Mr_Mistah calm down soy boy, just because you can't play adult games doesn't mean you have to whine and cry about them.

[@UofACG93]

Modernization is just a lazy way of saying "we want to reach the broader audience and we're probably going to cut content that you old fans liked" for babies who think realism is the only way forward in the RE franchise.

[@Psych0boost]

Capcom’s done a similar thing with Monster Hunter where they design themselves into a corner by giving the player character OP options that they didn’t need in the first place, and water down the game’s defining traits for mass appeal

[@aureateseigneur5317]

That's funny because that's exactly what RE4 did to the OG RE formula.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

yep it turns out you can't just pile on trendy mechanics to any game's design and have it work.

[@TonyTonyRedgrave]

hoping they dial the fuck back on that stuff in MH6. I have faith that most of the stupid shit introduced in Rise probably won't stay, at least - it's an experimental side game like X after all. But I also wouldn't be surprised if they stubbornly push forward with bad decisions like giving longsword multiple insanely OP counters because people who got carried by this stuff might complain.

[@yagami999913]

​@@TonyTonyRedgravething is, you're still gonna get your ass kicked in Master Rank unless you really git gud. This is why Monster Hunter is the best. The base formula is SO solid it makes it very hard to ruin the game even when they add questionable mechanics on top (looking at you grapple claw).

[@superpowerman4354]

Which MH game are you talking about specifically?

[@tomholt1080]

My biggest issue with the Re4 remake is that fact that it even exists. Can we please get new games, enough with the remakes. On a side note Re4 is still fun to this day.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Agreed 100% tom. And it's because remakes are completely paradoxical. Because the situations where remakes would make the most sense (artistically) are for games that weren't very good and needed some serious improvements (like resi 6). However, the way it works is that devs select games that were already successful that way they don't have to do as much work, the marketing is baked in, and they can just pile in whatever changes they want with pretty much no bad outcome. Sure I'll complain about it, but who am I other than just another fan. The review sites lap this remake garbage up like brandy

[@Soap010]

​??? I waited my whole life for re4 remake wtf you on about?

[@BlackThief843]

​@@Soap0104demake sucks tbh

[@TipoIrritable]

Doest change the fact that the game is better

[@BlackThief843]

​@@TipoIrritabledoesn't change the fact that you are only saying an opinion

[@hombre-lobo5673]

As expected, og RE4 is still untouchable. Mikami managed to create one of the greatest action games with tank controls and the greatest beat em up of all time (Godhand) what a genius!👏

[@Tony-ol9ru]

The tank controls in the OG weren't for black of vision with mechanics, it was a baked in feature. Give me snappy, responsive, stop and turn on a dime controls over anything "modern."

[@TipoIrritable]

Tank Controls are horrible, and i played the game 2 times.@@Tony-ol9ru

[@TipoIrritable]

RE4 is not still untouchable. The Remake is better

[@sebastiankulche]

​@@TipoIrritableYour lack of brain is better.

[@hachelyd_i3232]

@@TipoIrritable😂😂😂😂OG RE4 is still the best💪🏼Remake is cool too. The grabs & Leon getting stunned by everything need to be fixed

[@greatbigeyeball]

One thing I've learned working in this industry is that very few people consume games at a level far enough below the surface to really notice any of the underlying mechanics. That stuff tends to be reserved for long-term games like esports and competitive stuff that sticks around for years. Single player games like this, no one notices. They've moved on long before hitting the nuance. Great video though.

[@hairyballs089]

I think fighting game players and people who play competitive multiplayer and arcade games really try to understand mechanics in a deep way. More people should watch Mathiewmatosis to see how you should be reviewing video games as an artform. People play video games like bootleg movies.

[@Chaso-1124]

I notice this by looking at achievements. Even the most basic achievements in a game like "finish chapter 1", half of the players didn't even manage to do that let alone actually finish through the whole game

[@gilgandantomega2796]

The things that’s made the original fun don’t work with modern controls. This game doesn’t replace the original. It has its own identity. My only gripe is the way Leon feels moving around and how terrible his kicks are. The best part of the original was the impact of the melee imo

[@jeckek9936]

Modern controls? Theres no difference between the dualshock 2 and dualsense outside of gyro and pressure sensitive triggers.

[@SpadeDraco]

I somewhat disagree. They absolutely could have kept the general consistency and "feel" of the original game with the remake's current controls. They just didn't.

[@Tony-xs4eg]

They could have easily kept tank controls in. Just look at re5, which was amazing.

[@killzekat]

​​@@jeckek9936 (woaaah sorry for the dissertation)The problem is not the controller but how Leon moves. "Modern controls" here opposes to "Tank controls"... As paradoxal as it is, Leon used to have better movements in vanilla 4, even with tank controls he felt less weighty or heavy. To the point that in RE4R he feels as heavy as Isaac from Dead Space remake with more inertia when you stop or change direction but with less reasons for it to be that way... It brings a very different feeling to the remake which brings many random elements to the gameplay : shots can miss even if you aimed properly, staggers for headshots are random and mobs can tank 2/3 headshot while still advancing,etc). The Remake is cool as a recent third person shooter, but i also think it lost a little of what made the Vanilla special. It's less...Rewarding. If i had to compare it to another franchise it would be Max Payne. 1&2 had a specific rythm, Max was fast, aiming was even faster, etc. The 3rd Max Payne is a cool game but the gameplay definitely changed to a heavier, slower pace with more tools(cover system,etc). And for many i can understand why people prefered the previous ones. Recent or actual mecanics do not necessary lead to a better games.

[@BARONN671]

I think it's not even MGS elements that they try to include in remake, they obviously trying to hop on TLOU popularity. HUD, stealth, melee durability, graphics, crafting system and overall boring "cinematographic expirience" instead of fun over the top action game. So normies will buy it obviously, just like they buy sony soap opera exclusives every year

[@Ashtasticle94]

Exactly this, the 4 remake feels so bland and safe compared to previous titles in the series

[@DeadEndScreamer]

Enemies rushed you all the time on professional in the original, the reason the remake sucks is the random amount of heatshots to stun or even flinch an enemy making your guns completely unreliable, while in the original you were always one well placed shot of a pistol from turning around the situation in your favor.

[@levimachado]

The rushing with no stun is annoying... but it's the grabs... the grabs make no sense Only attack you can't parry or dodge is the stupid grab

[@DeadEndScreamer]

@@levimachado For sure, and then there's how much Leon gets stunned by everything, enemies climbing over cover, jumping off ledges and even running into him, it looks so stupid when enemies cassualy run into Leon stun him and right after they shove him again followed by a grab with him being stunlocked the entire time like he's some nerd in a locker room getting shoved around by his bullies, except his bulles are a bunch of senior citizens.

[@iamanavyvet919]

There's a delayed reaction in the middle of every melee fight (you get stunned, and frozen, and can't move out of the way) causing Leon to take unnecessary damage. That's BS. And BTW, the ONLY way the enemy hurts you is by cheating: nasty little surprise attacks from behind, or explosive firebombs, molotovs, or axes, thrown from enemies you can't always see at first, or the worst: you down an enemy and he transforms and STRIKES you with his tentacles before you can back up. And WHY do you ALWAYS run out of ammo at the exact wrong time: before you can finish off an enemy from a distance- Again, bs, in my book. Overall, I still love it- primarily for old times sake. Must have played the original at least 25 times on different difficulties.

[@MikeyJ1572]

@@levimachado can't you duck the grab?

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

@@MikeyJ1572 Not reliably.

[@jpain5986]

There's still no game that can compare to original RE4's replayability

[@TipoIrritable]

Its the other way around. This remake's replayability is better

[@coys.3677]

@@TipoIrritablefr

[@sebastiankulche]

Ratchet And Clank trilogy. Both makes obtaining, upgrading and using weapons so much fun.

[@AnakinSkywalker-u5b]

​​@@TipoIrritableIt's really not. And I'm not even a big RE fan nor played the OG first. The Remake is only good on surface level. But there are many problems in it that kill the fun for me from the mediocre voice acting (especially for remake Ada), inconsistent tone that is desperate to mimick the original while also wanting to be serious, and change/removal of scene from the original that make the Remake blatantly inferior and even dumber. And i only realized all of this after playing the OG RE4 which I've replayed like 7 times at this point while i had to force myself/could barely finish the remake with lack of knowledge on the original and how good it is.

[@omarpacho630]

The whole point of Krauser’s battle is to reward those who use the knife a lot as well as a nod to Leon’s training in knife combat

[@KingMcKerchar]

Found this video shortly after refunding RE4 Remake for the exact same reasons you talk about regarding combat. Glad to hear I'm not alone, but I'm sad my fav RE game now feels frustrating and boring to play, the combat is stiff and every enemy feels like a huge sponge. It's artificial difficulty at it's finest. I'm envious of people who never played the original because they might enjoy the new one, but I think I might be done with this series after so many years, it just feels bad to play :(

[@chaffeur]

So I ended up watching one of my friends replay a certain section over and over again in this remake, because we were trying to figure out if the game truly has stealth mechanics, or if it was merely giving off the false “illusion” of stealth, and as it turns out, it does indeed fall into the latter category. Having the option to completely circumnavigate huge combat situations could have been interesting, as it would not only prevent the player from using up resources, but you may come out of certain segments of the game with an entirely changed experience. Unfortunately, it seems like the stealth was included to make it seem like the game is deeper than it actually is, because you’ll only be able to take out a couple of enemies before you’re thrown into a forced alert mode and are quickly swarmed by everybody. One argument I can already see coming is that the “stealth” in the remake allows you to thin out the herd before entering combat, but the problem is that those few stragglers you managed to take out are immediately replaced by others that spawn in to take their places, so now I can’t help but wonder why the game implemented stealth at all. It is literally useless.

[@desfefe]

If you want a superior game and what RE should really be in the modern era, just check out Evil Within 1 and 2. Evil Within 2 especially did the stealth thing really well. And it is really modern and kept with the times. Remake 4 seems a little rusty and out of place in the modern era. Never was going to live up to the original.

[@trontosaurusrex9532]

​@@desfefe it's interesting you mention them,because when I saw the "stealth" in RE4 remake,I immediately thought of Evil 1 and 2. It was handled quite well in those games and helped save resources on my Akumu difficulty run.

[@depressedcheems9961]

You thin out the herd of a limited number of spawns, while also being given the opportunity to gather supplies to make the fight easier. So it's beneficial for people that are patient/struggling with the game, while still giving you the option of playing like a psycho. You can even insta kill certain enemies that are much harder than common fodder such as the dude with the cowhead. How about actually playing the game before you develop such a viewpoint?

[@chozochiefxiii3298]

​@@depressedcheems9961 I did play the game, the stealth is half baked like the rest of the game.

[@bruhtholemew]

I'm not even sure it's stealth sometimes. Yes you can duck behind an occasional wall, but so many other things scream that it's just a crouch. For example the only way to suplex is to stun an enemy, crouch behind them, and melee. Crouching can also dodge certain attacks. I haven't noticed any any perception changes when crouching either. In fact, you can run right up to enemies and do the "stealth take down", which by the way, can be done on any stunned enemy if you walk behind them. Honestly I'm kinda glad stealth isn't real, else the contrarian squad would complain it's not in the OG.

[@AtomicToast15]

Great video! I just recently finished the remake, and found this video via searching "Resident Evil 4 controls" lol because I figured someone HAD to have experienced the same issues I did throughout my entire playthrough, and you pretty much hit the nail on the head in every aspect. The entire combat flow is just flat out not fun and frustrating, especially a lot of the bosses. What's worse is I probably made things even worse for myself by playing Hardcore for my first playthrough. But then why the hell does the game literally advertise Hardcore as being a good choice if you were a fan and/or veteran of the original, when as you pointed out, trying to play the game in the style of the original just gets your ass kicked nonstop?

[@sebastiankulche]

Now that i played the remake again i can notice a few more things: despite the more smooth gameplay the feedback is somehow way worse than even the damn PS2 version. The guns doesnt feel nearly as satisfying, the sounds of the guns, especially the pistols feels more like toy guns and every pistol has the same lazy reused sound, and the shotgun doesnt spray and have the crazy knockback nearly as much as the OG. I also dont like how Ganados doesnt react as nearly with every gun shot. It lacks the strategic feel of the OG. The aiming also feels a bit wonky, enemy AI is strange, it just doesnt feel right to play and somehow is harder than OG professional in the default difficulty... People may say im nostalgic, but when the OG does things better that says something. The remake does a few things right imo, but the thing is everything should be better.

[@BWMagus]

Because, like you say, it plays rather different; lack of stun, lack of invincibility frames, reliance on parrying fucking everything, etc. It IS harder, but harder isn't always better if it relies on cheap bullshit like enemies randomly tanking shots, so you never know if your strategic attack is going to work or not.

[@TheCompleteMental]

The remake just feels more _mushy_ Everything is slightly off, and it's always slightly off in a different way. It just feels so sanded down, in a weird sorta sense.

[@Lumlakecrest]

Thats the last remake for me and no more. NO THANKS BRO 😎

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Damn right brother :-)

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

It's funny how fixing one thing that wasn't broken caused a wave of butterfly effect like garbo changes.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Ironically the original Resident Evil was meant to be a remake to Sweet Home, then they changed it so it became a new IP, but they didn’t with Resident Evil 4.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Yeah resi 4 was also heavily inspired by beat em ups, which was a pretty big step away from the old school survival horror of just running away from enemies.

[@Apurbo_]

Sweet Home, the webcomic?

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@Apurbo_ no Sweet Home is a Capcom RPG released in 1989 for the Famicom

[@artorias-24]

Pretty informative video and I appreciate the different perspective. I just beat the remake and I completely agree with the sluggish movement of Leon. It just feels like I am running in quick sand constantly or that Leon isn't running his full speed that he is supposed to. I always felt the combat felt more off compared to OG RE4 since playing the demo, nice to know I wasnt alone in feeling this way. I also want to add that the characters in the remake have ZERO personality and I didnt really like any of them except for Louis. It would be cool if you made another video after you play through the game and give a full in depth analysis or review.

[@Lusorxx]

The Story is awful in the remake and so is the Game for me

[@fazelfarrokhi1998]

​@@Lusorxx yes right re4 OG is better than remake

[@maximilian3544]

You're bringing up a very good point I think about often with this whole reboot and remaster stuff that rarely if not at all gets brought up: the "what makes you think you can improve upon this?" point, when they start changing up something that has stood the test of time. Like if you're starting to change up genius stuff you better be a real fucking genius yourself.

[@frankbasile3662]

Thankfully the remake is pure Fckn genius,they actually improved a masterpiece,who would of thought...

[@isshryu1730]

@@frankbasile3662 In what ways is it better?

[@frankbasile3662]

@@isshryu1730 So many to list...

[@isshryu1730]

@@frankbasile3662 It's funny because you didn't even give one example. Way to prove your point!

[@frankbasile3662]

@@isshryu1730 Unfortunately was busy at work,..I find the pacing,controls,enemy AI,added areas to the map,new enemy types and changed enemy encounters,the deflect mechanic,of course graphics and sound,The lighting ,especially the night time village sections,the Added side content,Ashley not being as vulnerable,more fleshed out characters,Good and bad...,Plenty of improvements,..Resident Evil 4 is a masterpiece,that the remake still improved on,I like how both are great and different enough to enjoy both in my collection.But I'm not a pretentious wanker in mommy's basement with too much time on my hands, whining like a confused Fanook..,Wake up my lil son

[@btrapskills5997]

Leons movement in the og: Smooth as an Asian girls feet RM: he moves like an 8th grader in class paired up with his crush and moves like he's trying to not stumble and

[@TipoIrritable]

No? He moves like everyone would've. Thats an sprint, not a walk. RM walks smoothly, aims smoothly and moves silently. RM movement > OG4

[@TheCompleteMental]

​@@TipoIrritablebrother, I'm overweight and half a foot taller than Leon and I have faster feet than him. On god. This man should not be wading through thin air like it's mud. Get him a physical therapist and some water.

[@josesosa3337]

It always made sense to me that a trained professional would plant their feet for accuracy.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Agreed Jose! yes, that's very true

[@jjj-sj1lx]

And thats why you have à better précision when you d ont move in the remake lol.

[@BWMagus]

@@jjj-sj1lx Barely.

[@TheCyclicGamer]

​@@jjj-sj1lx Ethan Winters in both RE7 and Village has better precision than Leon Kennedy, and he's not even a trained professional in the former.

[@mattjindrak]

Totally. And why would they disarm someone coming at them with a melee weapon? Or pick up that melee weapon and use it after the attacker is down to save on ammo. And of course they'd be picky when they dodge! Gotta wait for just the right time which, as it happens, is very inconsistent!

[@nunuarthas8680]

While I personally enjoy the game, I see some of your points. The remake culture is going to bite itself in the ass eventually if they go down the road of blindly mordernize everything without realizing the soul of the original.

[@Tony-xs4eg]

It’s a shitty remake, don’t know how you can enjoy a disgraceful game.

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

that's being stupidly demanding.

[@joeyxl3456]

The 'magic' of the original is that after about an hour you gather that game up to your chest and say myyyy precious, the new one was uninstalled after I realised how bad it felt.

[@RamssCoreM]

Ppl before remake: RE4 is the best game ever Ppl after: OG RE4 is trash, wtf is that? An obsolete game?

[@HorrorFan0]

Who the hell is saying that? Literally everyone finds something to complain about the remake. AndI don't mean now. Even 1 ago when the remake released

[@RamssCoreM]

@@HorrorFan0 Aah nah, don't come up with that, people have complained about the remake as there are people who have also called og re4 obsolete and an unplayable game. Both sides have been shitting on both games since the remake was released. There's no group that's gonna 100% like the remake or the og game, that's for sure. Wanna know what problem I have with it?, there's no second chance of getting an actual remake with new content to the story that's not an expansion of the already known one (RE4) or a remake that doesn't cut off content and doesn't even add anything new to make up for what they removed (RE2, RE3). You'll have your reasons to like them and that's fine, but it's also fine if people don't like it, that doesn't make them 'nostalfans' (the only arguement most remake fans use).

[@HorrorFan0]

@@RamssCoreM can we just say both games are great? And about the cut content in the remake, it appeared in the separate ways dlc (U3, the laser room, that ride om the island that was in the village in the original). And the dlc even added a new enemy that is OK

[@RamssCoreM]

@@HorrorFan0 I mean, Capcom did a pretty decent job with this remake only (talking about recent remakes from 2-4), but I'm pretty sure it would've been greater if they would've added a new story like Resident Evil remake did with Lisa Trevor. And it's not only that but I'm amazed at how Shinji Mikami added that story in between the base game. It wasn't even a DLC and it showed us how miserable Umbrella could be by experimenting on the mansion architect's wife and daughter and how the kid lost her mom little by little. Those little things made me love the idea of a new remake for the next titles, but that didn't happen and it won't happen again since there are no second chances.

[@Kiziz0l]

This remake feels so cheap, they took away the essence of RE4 on every levels. They've just cashed in on nostalgia and people's consumerism.

[@macmicro3778]

Damn you definitely the type of guy to shove fentanyl up your bum bum.

[@Leonardo_ok_]

I am a OG re4 and play it a lot, and just finish the remake 2 times, one in hardcore and other in profissional (this remake is easier imo). You are absolutely right about this. Great video. Make more, really in depth with the full game, people will like it.

[@leonardomatheus1888]

Are you fucking for real? OG re4 is so much easier man, what are you on about? The pro difficulty in the remake is even unfair at times

[@Grac3AndP3ac3]

As an og re fan, I agree. The remake is fun, and I like it, not as much as the original, but still. I also agree that the remake is really easy, I'm just annoyed that they make you speed run the game instead of letting you enjoy it. I like playing leisurely instead of feeling like I'm racing a clock and okay, I'm fine with speed running once, but FOUR TIMES to unlock all the S+ stuff is just ridiculous And here silly me thought getting s+ on hard-core right away would save me the trouble of going through assisted and standered mode so that I can jump back to professional again (which I already did once, I did it with a new game plus to unlock Ashley's armor and the sweeper which is a serious downgrade with how terrible the accuracy is even with the aiming assist helmet on, like what? Isn't Leon supposed to be working for the president? Shouldn't he have better aim than that? Like with the pistols, I'm getting head shots all day, but the special weapons are just terrible compared to the original) and as someone who doesn't like speedrunning this game is starting to feel like a chore, but once I get standered done, I'll be able to chill from speeding through the game for a bit, which will be nice because I enjoyed it more when I was able to just play it and not run and bash my way through it

[@Tony-xs4eg]

@@Grac3AndP3ac3t shouldn’t be about fun, but about giving us something special. That’s the thing with the OG re4, it wasn’t a game, but an experience. The remake on the other hand, is just a mere game.

[@Grac3AndP3ac3]

@Tony-xs4eg I couldn't agree more, the original was an experience, I still remember when I was little watching my dad play it. The game managed to entice me while scarring me while it made me laugh at the same time. I've never seen a game balance the horror with cheeseyness with such action before and since

[@thegoodeboy2016]

@@Tony-xs4egyou’re literally just saying that because nostalgia. This whole video is just a boomer raging at new thing.

[@bisdakaraokeatbp]

What I love about the OG is u can use the doors to attack enemies. Fun times.

[@VariousMethod5]

The demo just made me want to go back and play the original instead.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Exactly the same here, in fact that is exactly what I did ha and the difference is immediately noticable

[@SupremeVictory420]

It’s sad how a lot already think the remake is better thu… the game is out for about a week and people are already saying its a masterpiece. I try to voice my opinion but immediately get called out for being “nostalgic” or “nitpicky”

[@LuccatielD7]

@@SupremeVictory420 both are great in their own ways. I absolutely love the original but I’m having a blast with the remake.

[@SupremeVictory420]

@@LuccatielD7 well im into the og ways then lol

[@Tony-1971]

@@TheElectricUnderground Same.

[@meropticon_1651]

The remake is soulless, style over substance slop. The improvements are all graphical, nearly everything else is worse. The weapons have been neutered, the kick is outright shit, you stumble like a drunk, and the mechanics are sloppy. Mendez phase 1 spams a grab move 90% of the time and you can literally stick to him while crouching, and he can do nothing. Poorly thought out, actually embarrassing design.

[@amuroray9115]

The original never had a soul. Even Mikami admitted the story was trash. It turned Re into an action shooter instead of Survival horror. The series charm was thrown out. There was never any substance Tank controls are also far more inferior, stiff, and annoying to use.

[@sahrmalik521]

The gameplay is SO sluggish. How did they make a remake game feel more outdated than the original?

[@VincentBrooks437]

I’m snapping this remake into two 😡

[@joeyxl3456]

lmao

[@albertdaniel4444]

Make a new game there is zero point to any remake except that they suck at making games and cant make a new one to make money or save their lives, so they need a cash grab. There is a thousand amazing sci fi and fantasy stories they could use to make a game off of, even if they are brain dead dumb at stories. If they cant make game mechanics for an amazing story that is fun, then let's be honest they don't know how to make games. Games are swiftly becoming society educators and propaganda reprogramming, and we just want F@ing games. We all go to school and college or some type of therein, so we have all been properly programmed, please leave it out of games.

[@brettsmith5903]

Please don't remake the remake my god. That games fucking perfect. These remakes of 2 3 and 4 are fucking awful.

[@frostyredoc2120]

I actually want a remake of Code: Veronica.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

the way it works frosty is that the games that artistically probably need remakes the most (like resi 6) are the ones least likely to be remade because that would be more risky and more work. The meta of these remakes is to take games that are already well established and then jam in a bunch of trendy modern design elements ha.

[@hexagonsun33]

i never finished it on the ps2, but no way in hell with the political soy boi climate with that ever be remade intact. the mansion section gets way to brian de palma that in todays modern age it would be called more problematic than re5 ever was.

[@Squalid]

I just want a port of Veronica for pc, just some fan mods and the game would be perfect!

[@darassylmoniakam]

blame the RE4 fanboys they make a lot of noises than Code Vero ones

[@kujo4388]

Omg you’re so unique! Literally no one has every said that before

[@junker154]

A bit late to this but I got a new rig and was pondering about getting this remake because I absolutely adore the combat of RE4. Honestly, the precise and exact nature of the combat made it so rewarding, especially targeting different weak spots and performing melee strikes. It's a design choice that works so well with the gameplay and setting. I never cared about the "oh it's unrealistic, why can't he move while shooting?" argument, the controls might not be as free form but it works so well with the way that enemies outnumber you. Adding tension and a methodical/tactical way of disposing threats. Honestly, RE5 improved upon this tremendously but the campaign itself is far weaker which was as shame. Although it's unpopular, I think that the combat mechanics of RE6 are amazing as well when paired with traditional zombies. The additional dodges and super cool moves of characters added so much to the game, unfortunately it also suffers from a messy campaign with incoherent gameplay and awful level design. But the game shines so much at Mercenaries. I wish we could go back into a RE5/RE6 hybrid thing. It's a shame that the remake goes for a different gameplay style, I liked the arcade and efficiency of the original RE4.

[@BeybabaEfendi]

14:00 i cant give you enough credits for pointing that out. i did not play the demo, cuz i didnt want to get spoilers. I bought the remake today, and could not play more then 2h. The changes that they did, made a different game for me. I loved downing the enemy to slash them with the knife. but this style of game play does not work in the remake. And thats where the game lost me. The gamer from today has no idea how satisfying the knife felt in re 4 classic. Now you got a new shooter game, congrats capcom. Maybe you get more players, but you lose veterans.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Yeah exactly and now we have to listen to a 1000 vids talk about how the remake is a masterpiece and so forth ... Ugh

[@chancepaladin]

@@TheElectricUnderground same shit that happens with every remake now. the algorithm is basically paying streamers to 1-up each other with how amazing a game is. it happens every game now and its fking disgusting. until the algorithm decides its okay to shit on it, then it incentivizes everyone to shit on it, and its disgusting. keeps elevating absolute dogshit games.

[@elviokill]

The comparison with Metal Gear Solid is not accurate. Resident Evil 4 Remake stealth system is identical to Evil Within 2 stealth system. RE4 remake copied exactly what Shinji Mikami did to distance his game from the Resident Evil influence.

[@kazuhira7777]

not being able to move horrified me, made it scarier

[@atrocity3010]

If I had to put together a list of worst possible games to remake, RE4 would probably be #1. It's one of the most meticulously designed games I've ever played, where every mechanic exists on a very delicate balance with all the others, and one of the very few games where I genuinely struggle to think of any way to improve it. The ridiculous rebalancing domino effect required just to allow for shooting while moving illustrates how well thought out the original's design was. The decision to remake RE4 strikes me as arrogance, it would be like if Nintendo said they're going to remake Super Mario Bros 3. I 100% agree with your bit at the end about selecting masterpieces for remakes being the exact wrong approach. Final Fantasy 7 is an even more egregious example of a remake gone off the deep end because they straight-up changed the genre of the game to be an action RPG. The games that should be remade are the ones that could have been great, but didn't quite reach their full potential, maybe because of lack of polish, bad controls, or something else holding them back. Not taking a beloved game and saying "Alright, that icky turn-based combat or those antiquated tank controls, they gotta go because it's the 2020s and everything's gotta play the same and have no unique characteristics whatsoever." I played the hell out of RE4 and as soon as I heard about a remake (and not a remaster) I was rightfully skeptical. It sounds like all this remake will do is make me want to play the original again.

[@desfefe]

Can confirm after finishing remake 4. I will go back to play OG because it is soooo much better LOL.

[@DoctorMinjinx]

I feel like "lame" is a harsh way of putting it, but you are making some valid points. I do think while the gameplay is pretty fun here, it will never really live up to the original. The original has such a legacy for a reason. That's kind of the issue you run into when you're remaking a game that so painfully doesn't need a remake. Which has been my main critique with this remake since the idea of it has been brought up. HD Project is my kind of RE4 Remake lmao.

[@viruschris3160]

I never played OG RE4 until the week before the Remake came out, seeing as I brought it and did a recording for a Let's Play (which I haven't got around to editing yet). And I played the Remake 4 Demo first to see and playing the OG soon after. For those few short sessions, I prefer the OG controls move. Something about the Remake controls... awkward and awful for me. And I just recently beat RE4 for the first time and I love it. Looking forward to unlocking everything now, but I do wish with the Remake it just took the OG and made it similar to the RE1 Remake being near faithful with mechanics and such and updates. Like being able to rebuy your Weapons with all their upgrades and getting Infinite Ammo for all of them except for a few like in the OG and maybe make Leon move slightly faster when walking backwards. The Remake... nothing about it interests me. I love the campy tone and the vibrant colors of the OG and the character interaction were amazing. From what I hear they removed the banter with Leon and the bosses and that kinda sucks. And this whole "serious", "dark", and "realistic" tone take with the Remake... ugh. It feels like other horror games now instead being the B-Horror with Cheesy dialogue since the OG RE1 game. And even if you have the "cheesy lines" in there... it feels more obligated than genuine in my eyes. Nothing wrong with people liking the Remake too, but they keep saying we have two games of RE4 and I can't help but think... why? Why have two different versions? Might as well make a brand new RE game than remaking one. And honestly RE Code Veronica or RE0 I hear were requested the most for a remake... not 4, yet I read topics in Forums they were and I'm thinking when? Also, remakes like Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D is considered the definitive edition of OoT as it's the same game with QoL improvements that make it better to play and you get to enjoy the same game again portable. I like both OG and Remake OoT, but the 3D one definitive the one to go. MM3D I didn't like as much with certain changes I didn't like and felt like they didn't understand why fans love the OG MM. And Remakes that are different from the OG, like FF7 Remake, really split the fan base. Was it hard to just keep the original story and expand on it? From what I hear it's like a mix of a sequel and reboot and I'm sure a lot of people didn't want that for a Remake. And yet people will say "You want a Remaster then?" and I want to smack these people. No, I want to have the same game again with improved graphics, QoL improvements in game mechanics, while keeping the core essence, story, and characters the same. Which is why the Remake of RE1 is regard as the BEST RE remake for that reason. Why remake an old game, but fundamentally change so many things about it? Might as well as be a new game. I only got into the RE series with RE7 and playing it in VR for the first time made me love this series soon after. But, I'm noticing a trend lately with these Remakes and... yeah I'm not interested. They're not appealing to me and I never played the original versions before. I didn't mind RE2R, but I wish they kept the Zap and A/B scenario from the OG as I never experienced those and they sound AMAZING. I played the OG RE3 for the first time after the RE3R came out and hearing how fans with disappointed with cut content and changes and playing the OG... man it terrified me and I played RE7 in VR. Seeing how Nemesis chased you. I don't get that same... fear, but fun gameplay. And the characters come off as boring nowadays. Oh well. That's gaming for ya.

[@حسنحيدرحازم]

There is still banter between leon and the bosses it is just during the boss fights also leon controls like a dream compared to the original in the original he feels very awkward and awful to control .

[@viruschris3160]

@@حسنحيدرحازم Absolutely not does he control like in dream in Remake. He moves so awful from the demo I played and I just finished playing the Original version and I can say I VASTLY prefer it over the Remake. And there's LESS banter. Not making it as personal as it was in the OG. I really like the comm hack banters and the way he controls is so fluid and better game design in mind.

[@حسنحيدرحازم]

@@viruschris3160 no he controls better he moves when you want him to move he turns around very quickly and he stops when you want him to stop also how would you know the banter if you just played the demo? and the proof that they knew leon controlled awful In the original is that most of the boss attacks you dogge with quick time events, I don't know what are you people on but you are the only ones to say the original movement is better, I watched a lot of fans of re4o play the remake and no one complained about the movement.

[@حسنحيدرحازم]

@@viruschris3160 Also your grammar is horrible.

[@viruschris3160]

@@حسنحيدرحازم Faceplam. I played both the Remake Demo and the Original. Leon moves better in the OG and is more responsive. There's a weird delay in his animation when doing moves and his running feels weirdly sluggish. And the aiming and moving at the same time? That game design MESSED UP the original game design of RE4 which is core. Because of that with how faster enemies are. In the Remake he plays like current shooter games which may be why people aren't too bothered by it as they played games similar. However, it messes the game in my opinion and I don't like it. The tank-like controls from the OG work well with the game design and how enemy AI and movement worked. It had better balance. Leon can do a quick 180 turn in the OG as well and his immediately goes into a sprint when you hold the action button. And I just finished OG RE4... only like a small amount of bosses had QTE in them. Mainly Krauser and U3. The other few times is for dodging and I didn't mind it. I played many games and having experience playing and checking out the Remake Demo and Original Game... something is off with Leon's movement in the Remake.

[@agamaz5650]

it is so sad people actually disagree

[@Mister_Don888]

So I can’t be free to criticize?

[@mgg7756]

As in general?

[@TheAlienFromToyStory.]

This isn’t sad you dumas this is great

[@saimalishahid1406]

Finally someone gets it about OG re4 and how re4 Remake is no proper replacement or substitute for it.

[@mandrake904]

They screwed us re 3 remake only to give us re 8 and 4 remake. I’m not buying next gen for playing the same games whether its a remaster, dlc or even a remake. THINK AHEAD AND REMEMBER THE PAST should be their motto but its more like try this its the same thing but more powerful. Like graphics and system performance.

[@Mike23443]

there is a mod that addresses every single issue. I downloaded perfect accuracy because I want the old laser sight aim, and I hope that both a laser on every weapon + an increased aim sway rebalance will be released eventually, added in one shot stun to head and legs like it was in the original regardless of difficulty, added in increased crafting gain to fix the tediousness of resource gathering, added a dodge roll because why not. There are increased parry windows for knives, infinite durability for knives and armor, adjusted cost for repair and gain for gem bonuses. With a few tweaks, the game plays almost exactly like the original does. I highly recommend it if you think the adjusted gameplay isn't cutting it for you. Personally I like either so it doesn't bother me.

[@sebastiankulche]

When a game or in this case a remake, needs a mod to be enjoyable then the normal experience may not been very good to begin with it.

[@Mike23443]

@@sebastiankulche the base game is enjoyable. I just tweaked it to so it plays exactly like the original. In case your dumbass didn't read my initial comment properly, I said that I have no problem with the gameplay or balance of the unmodded experience. The fact that the game has the flexibility to be modded is only a good thing. Trying to paint that as a negative is some mental gymnastics brain rot. The people who don't like this remake are some salty ass boomers who are the same kind who ruined the star wars reboots by being impossible to please and overly negative about the most minute of details.

[@sebastiankulche]

​@@Mike23443Trust me, i seen plenty of people who, at least with other games, tried to justify the base experience flaws just because they had mods to fix it, when that should be a problem of the developers to do it in first place. And no, i dont like the remake and i dont care, good for you, lol.

[@BWMagus]

@@Mike23443 Ah, I appreciate you mentioning the new Star Wars; now I know you're an idiot who will applaud anything flashy on a screen.

[@desireless4092]

Alright, so after I got the remake and played a decent time with it, I dislike the heavy feel of Leon's movement so the old balance is out the window. It's like he's running with weights on his legs. Feels off. The most annoying part is that sometimes when I recover from kick animation I get stun locked by a ganado that raced to get me by the throat. As you can imagine it is frustrating and annoying, happened to me when I also jumped down and the ganado suddenly goes for the throat while being docile. The example you gave with the short bursts they do is true. Instead of only shortening the distance the go full rush on your throat and I cannot counter it as in the original with the shotgun since the stun and spread have been nerfed. Still I follow my old strategy for the most part and now in the castle I have almost maxed my starting 9 mm pistol, the automatic sniper is halfway there and I am saving up for the Striker shotgun hence why I ride milk the starting shotgun. The original had extremely fair and tight system and controls that gave you everything and if you fucked up, you know you fucked up. Here - I only pray that I won't get stun locked when I exit from my kick animation. It's a decent game, but the original still has that fun vibe. Oh, and the story is no longer this B movie style fun horror. Instead of being the Evil Dead 2, the game takes itself too seriously like it's fighting to keep its viewers on Netflix.

[@Kevin-zc4sp]

I also hate how the stun is inconsistent at times.

[@Spore1018]

I started playing the Remake and the original to kind of feel out the difference The remake just feels like a clunky ass combo of RE2's remake's movement, shooting & tankiness with RE8's aggression. not to mention how they take so much to stun compared to the original. also the random spread pisses me off to no end when it keeps me from 100%ing the shooting galleries on skill alone

[@TheCyclicGamer]

It's worse when you realize that they just ported Leon's character controller from RE2R over into RE4R, adding the new systems, but didn't consider the fact that Leon now has worse movement controls and gunplay than Ethan Winters, the most average guy protag in the whole entire series.

[@Spore1018]

@@TheCyclicGamer It's weird and antithetical to the whole feel of RE4

[@qazxsw13]

I don't see how anybody could look at the shooting in the remake and not see the problems it has unless people are just playing it on the easiest difficulties. The game just looks like it absolutely falls apart on hardcore and above, especially since you can have situations where a ganado will be climbing a ladder, and you can shoot that ganado 3 times in the face and they won't fall off. That perfectly encapsulates the core problem with shooting in this game. This game has a serious inconsistency with shooting feedback and how enemies react that I think overall it has worse shooting than the original because enemies just don't really react to the way you shoot, and in a game where you do a lot of shooting, if your shooting feel sucks, then you've failed as a game as far as I'm concerned. Especially since RE4, RE5, and even RE6 all revolve around the reactions of enemies to your shots, and all three of them carry over the same patterns and consistency. The remake doesn't, and it boggles my mind how you'd remake a game like 4 and not understand the importance of that aspect. Who cares if you can move and shoot if the shooting feels like crap. The game even has the even dumber choice of having the focus shot mechanic that RE2R has where if you aim and wait for the crosshair to focus, your damage and critical chance increase, except in RE4R, it's just critical chance and now stagger chance. But it's utterly stupid to have this mechanic because not only does the crosshair focus reset if you even slightly move your crosshair (which is unlike RE2R where your cursor movement doesn't cancel it), but a crosshair focus mechanic in a game where enemies move much faster than zombies is completely contradictory game design. It just doesn't work because there's almost no scenario where you can easily take advantage of it when enemies are constantly in your face within seconds. I just get this feeling people have low standards, especially the people who think the remake is better than the original, which I just can't see. All people seem to care about is bombastic presentation, and even the whole parrying thing is a mess. Knives having condition was just another aspect of RE2R that should not have not been carried over, and it's bizarre to me that people are averse to the idea of just having a knife as a backup weapon, not some fancy escape tool that breaks after a few uses. There was nothing wrong with the old school low-damage knife because they were reliable backup and just additional free damage, and the remake has done a bad job convincing me what we really need are glass knives that break after a handful of uses. Just give Leon a timed evade instead of a parry.

[@huevonesunltd]

Most people do have low standards for certain things but weirdly enough, at the same time they have high standards for pretty silly stuff. But let's not pretend that the original had no flaws like how a lot of people pretend that games like SoTN or Super Metroid had no flaws, a lot of the flaws had a lot to do with how easy it is even on professional because the cheese is way too strong such as killing a bunch of them with your "decent damage for a knife" weapon when they are down, TMP their legs or faces for an AOE kick, wait for them to cross a window or after they go up a ladder, etc, they were so good that these became pretty much "the way you are supposed to play" I agree that it is weird that they do not flinch when you shoot them in the head with a handgun but what's the other option really while at the same time keeping it challenging and keeping it fair?. Don't get me wrong i am in the team where i firmly believe that most games hold your hand too much or are made too much to appeal a very casual audience, but i find that some people just cannot accept it when the cheese is taken away from them or when they are forced to play in an entirely different way, i see a lot of casual players complain a lot about difficulty in retro games for example but at the same time i see similar complaints from retro/veteran gamers when they find something difficult in newer games and shout "bad game design" immediately, i find it weird because these are usually the same people who say that casuals complain too much, honestly most of the complaints i hear are difficulty related complaints disguised as something else, a lot of the aiming complains come down to the fact that capcom didn't make it too easy to aim so it would be a "clicking heads simulator" if you're playing with a mouse, it's not inherently "bad" you just have to get good at it, it's a skill you definitively can get consistent at, instead maybe these people should keep playing Standard difficulty or play the original, i feel like these people expected more of a remaster than a remake and do not know the difference. Still, i won't pretend either that the remake doesn't have flaws , but i am open to the idea that i just suck at the game, for example in profesional or hardcore the Salazar boss fight feels very cheap as he hides from your camera and hits you from god knows where, but still, open to the idea that i probably do not understand the proper way on how to deal with that boss.

[@qazxsw13]

@@huevonesunltd I'm not saying any game is perfect, but what I can definitely say is that the original RE4 was very intelligent with how it handled most of its combat scenarios and environments, and everything just kinda worked and fell together most of the time. The overall design is still as ingenious as it was in 2005 even today. These criticisms aren't just some 'oh it's too hard' or 'you're just stuck in the old mindset'. They seem like very real critiques or just contradictions in the way the game flows to me, and believe me, I am not averse to new or changing things up. In fact, in your own mention of how they could keep it fair, it's been done already. They were games called Resident Evil 6, and the Revelations series, which both had moving and shooting. And as much as people knock RE6, it understood how to balance the player's abilities and the enemy abilities or strengths, and you are far more agile in Resident Evil 6 than you are in RE4R, but enemies definitely react to what you're doing nonetheless. They don't stonewall your shots, they just hit really hard on harder difficulties as they should. And honestly, I'd go out on a limb and say if we're really gonna talk about skill issues, or things like aim encouragement, Resident Evil games have probably been easier than they've ever been. While autoaim has been a feature in classic games, RE4, RE5, and RE6 were games that didn't provide controller uses any aim assistance like the modern games give players now. You were actually expected to know how to aim. Today though? they're certainly keen to give you a little helping hand which says a lot about how much games have grown and target larger audiences who may not even really play many games. Capcom can't even stop using yellow tape or paint to denote what direction players should be heading. So if people are gonna play the 'it's harder now' card, I think they're barking up the wrong tree just on how Capcom works now.

[@meropticon_1651]

@@huevonesunltd The fact that damage has RNG mechanics is an absolute failure of game design, period. The fact the I can shoot the same enemy in the head 3 times with the same weapon, and have 3 different results each time is unintuitive, and NOT FUN. And by the end of the day, that should be the only reason you play games, fun. The souls games are hard but fun, because there is no bullshit rng in the way to make the game artificially difficult, which is something re4remake fails miserably at.

[@TheCyclicGamer]

"I just get the feeling people have low standards." After playing both Bendy and the Ink Machine and Resident Evil Village and seeing the amount of high praise those games get online despite being the worst survival horror games I've ever played, standards haven't got lower, they fell through the earth and are melting in the core.

[@amuroray9115]

@@TheCyclicGamer RE village doesn’t get high praise online. A lot of people fucking hated it. In fact RE village isn’t even survival horror. Like at all. It got mixed reviews by the fanbass And them being the worst survival horror you’ve played is a personal issue not pertaining to people’s own standards. Whatever you enjoy, someone thinks it’s trash. That’s how the world works. Remember that

[@venomfang8560]

Movement in this game is sloppy. Did he chug several six packs before starting his mission.

[@carminescurse]

Having the beginning have Leon explain how gruelling his training was, and then having him unable to go from aiming into a sprint without hesitation is shit. Secondly, they spawn enemies behind you. Running past an enemy doing a pitchfork lunge, and then being hit from behind by that same enemy is beyond trash.

[@paperell]

it's good to see there are people that recognized what made RE4 great and why the remake is another thing entirely. Too bad these concepts seem to complex for today's game designers.

[@rixgear]

Ah I forgot to add. You do make a good point about this entry, and you aren't wrong about the changes and what made the original so well designed. I just think it's clear Capcom is not interested in celebrating thier legacy. Iirc in an interview regarding RE2 remake, even the UI designer was asked why he didn't keep the UI to still look like the original, and he said vuz he hated it lol. I don't think any of the people involved with the original projects have worked on the remakes of 2 and later. Good vid 👌

[@TheElectricUnderground]

For sure Richter! Another point like this is the knife, where the director of the remake said the knife was basically useless in the og version, which means he knows basically nothing about the og versions combat it feels like

[@rixgear]

@TheElectricUnderground I feel this way often about certain remakes. Makes me want to straight up ask "Did you PLAY through the original version?" Due to some of the decisions made in them.

[@Lusorxx]

@@TheElectricUnderground useless lol what a worthless piece of ...

[@hiramsiqueiros9018]

@@TheElectricUnderground dude never seen knife only no damage playtroughs xD

[@Chaso-1124]

Wow, so generic black boxes is better than a vibrant, appealing, and functional menu. In my opinion that person should not be working on the remake if that is how they feel about the original

[@SuperFoxspeed]

This right here is what I think about re4 remake. The new mechanics dont mesh well together and the gameplay isnt fun or at least isnt as fun as the original re4. In og re4 both Leon and the enemies were balanced in what they could do but. In re4 remake it slightly buffs Leon while hugely buffing the enemies with better mobility, stronger attack variations, and making them bullet sponges. But the biggest issue with re4 remake is the rng in combat. In og re4 if you hit an enemy on the head you are rewarded with a kick and if you hit an enemy in the leg 2 to 3 times while they slowly walk up then your rewarded with a kick. In re4 remake even if you hit the enemy on the head or leg you are not rewarded with a kick always. This forces the player to hit the enemies head twice or more in some moments which waste limited ammo just to be rewarded for a kick. This tells the player that mastering your aim wont reward you like in og re4 did as kicks are now rng based on every enemy. Stunning enemies now is rng as well. In og re4 if you see them about to attack you or maybe you just want to stop them on there tracks from advancing on your position then hitting them anywhere would stop them and cancel their attack as it should. But in re4 remake this works some of the times and its random when it does. Numerous times I have hit an enemy on their chest while they were in a attack animation and they flinched saving me from their attack but also I had numerous times when the same enemy does the same attack animation and I hit them in the chest but they tank through it and I take damage. This rng in combat is what really messes up the enjoyment for me as it's out of my control and any action I due is always going to have a random outcome. The og re4 followed rules that never changed and were constant throughout the game and you knew what outcome your actions in the game caused. In re4 remake it doesn't follow rules as the outcome of your actions in combat is rng based. Is re4 remake a bad game? No. Though it isn't good either due to these reason in my opinion. Its average. That's why og re4 is the better game by far due to fairness and rewarding players for mastering the games mechanics.

[@dez87]

Cope skill issue

[@meropticon_1651]

@@dez87 Oh we doing buzzwords now? Ok then. L+Ratio.

[@TheSamuraiGoomba]

RE4 is a textbook example of a game that never needed a remake. It's not old. It's not crusty. It's not outdated. It doesn't need anything improved. It's a 10/10 game and perfectly perfect the way it is. It has some of the best level design in video games. One of the greatest horror action games of all time. Remaking RE4 is like trying to remake the Mona Lisa. You're saying the original isn't good enough and you think you can make it better. I find that rather insulting. Mikami isn't at Capcom anymore. You aren't going to make RE4 as good as the original. At *best* maybe you'll create something comparable to the RE3 remake or FF7 remake. AKA a completely different game with the same name.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

💯 tuna. They should have just skipped to 5 or 6 if they had to keep remaking games. The paradox though is that the games that need remaking are the ones that don't get remade because they don't have the same buzz and built in sales and they require more work

[@TheSamuraiGoomba]

@@TheElectricUnderground Yeah, RE6 could definitely have benefited from a remake. Remove all the quick time events, fix the bugs, lock the framerate to 60, fix the boss fights, rebalance instant kill enemies, maybe modify the inventory system... So many ways RE6 could be improved imo. RE5 isn't a masterpiece but I don't know what Capcom would do to remake that one other than fix Sheva's god-awful AI. Or add a mode that removes Sheva from the game entirely and rebalances puzzles for one player. So you can play without Sheva if you want/arent in a co-op game. Come to think of it, the 9 inventory slots thing (where an egg takes the same space as an assault rifle) could be fixed too.

[@Moddeang123]

Can't agree with this enough! RE4 are timeless. The hand paint texture and design are top tier even now day. Gameplay are still hold up really well there're a reason people (including me) still pick it up and beat it once a year, I did that for 10 years already. Still I going to try the new remake :D In the perfect world there will be no such things like remake... We just port the game to the new hardware for the new generation to experience it as close as its original. But this is not a perfect world ;-;

[@xarachne8473]

The controls were shit and you needed to open your whole ass inventory to change weapons. That alone needed a change

[@Ocean5ix]

Every horror game (kinda) needs a remake. And I'll give you one simple reason: graphics. I'm not a "graphics snob" in every genre, hell... I'm playing Baldur's Gate 1 right now. But when it comes to horror, current technology of a generation will almost always (except when it's just one generation behind like the TLOU remake) be a ridiculous improvement. RE4, just like Dead Space got a BILLION times scarier (or more "atmospheric/immersive", if you will) with their remakes. Compared to this remake, the woods in the original are a joke with the lack of detail, shadows and lighting (also the sepia tone). Does it DESPERATELY needs a remake? No, nothing does, the industry could be making something new instead, but it's hard when the feedback from the consumer is "oh well we liked games better in the 2000s-2010s", their answer is "then let's remake the games people loved!", then people throw money at the screen doubling down on what "we" want.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

You literally put into words how I feel. I played Resident Evil 4 for the First time about a Month ago and it became my favorite game of all time. I’ve played the Demo like 6 times already and my conclusion is it’s not bad but nowhere near as good as the original. A lot of things feel like RE4 but the Gameplay just doesn’t hit the same. Leon feels so Heavy and Stumbly now instead of the Precision of the original. The gunplay/combat encounters just don’t have that Flow that made the original so fun, It feels like every other 3rd person shooter. Something I loved about the Original was how GAMEPLAY Oriented it was, modern games love taking away control from the player and having cinematic cutscenes for everything. For example, Leon going into the Opening house, In the original you could just GO into the house but now there’s a Small cutscene of Leon looking around. Or when you use the binoculars, in the original you could look around wherever you wanted however you wanted, but now the game directs you to where it wants you to look, it’s almost as if it thinks the Player is too dumb to look at the Burning Body so it has to hold their hand. Anyways, I think the remake is going to be good and I can’t wait to play it when I get the chance but it’s definitely not gonna knock the Original off it’s place.

[@21catlike54]

in the original there’s still the cutscene when you go into the opening house, the remake just has a better transition into it feeling like you’re still in the gameplay. Also the binoculars can still be used to look around freely if you want. I also love the original, lets see if the remake is just as good.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@21catlike54 I don’t think noticeably taking complete control away from me for 10 seconds counts as a smooth transition. It’s that annoying thing every video game does nowadays for “immersion” where it constantly takes away control to play a mini cutscene which ruins the experience on repeat Playthroughs.

[@Danebrogen1]

hit the nail on the head. playing the remake just makes we want to replay the original

[@gavi888]

Lmao, as one of the .1% of people who played godhand before resi4 I remember just thinking "hey this is like ranged godhand" and loving it for that.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

a man of culture, you are a true gem Sok. Even I didn't pick up on Godhand till years later.

[@omarpacho630]

That “if you’re overwhelmed is best to run” is just a top straight out of the last of us. Unbelievable.

[@ShamanNoodles]

I remade the Mona Lisa and upscaled it to 4k. Which museum do I contact?

[@BASEDSAKRI]

I wrote this in the live chat yesterday

[@TheElectricUnderground]

make sure to change her hair color though lol

[@Gorgutsforcongress]

Ahh , the walking and shooting thing: I'm sure Capcom will negate this with bullet sponge zombie heads like they did in re 7, 2make, 3make, 8 and now 4make. Yay. We now need to empty a full clip into a zombies head to lightly stagger it. FUN.

[@WilliamGibson-nu8uj]

Maybe 2 shots maximum for a stagger on normal enemies

[@johnkerkalis6310]

You were right! Total bullet sponges!

[@LuccatielD7]

Skill issue. 2 bullets on professionnal always stagger.

[@Thighsupremacy9909]

Yep.

[@bkblindside3884]

Leon was a tough looking dude in 4. Carrying his crystal blue eyes and sharp features into modern graphics he'd look like he had plastic surgery and contacts in. I hear you about the combat and especially Leon's movement in the original. I don't see how people can call the old movement clunky.. Leon's sprint speed was instant, turning was sharp and precise. The new movement system has you running against a wall in full sprint just trying to get turned around in a room.. I really like RE2make so I'll probably like 4's remake as well. I won't hope for combat that matches the original because I know it can't. There may be new mechanics in play here but that's just more stuff to do to accomplish the same goal in my eyes. I wanna hope the story will be good but I've already seen what they did to Luis..

[@Kaimerah]

i love og RE4 but thats cause we're used to it. you take anyone now, and yeah RE4 movement would feel clunky. its why tank controls were phased out

[@KHAT-m8u]

Original resident evil 4 Leon is based on a REAL LIVING PERSON his name is Christian Duerre so your point isn’t valid.

[@FruityBasket99]

I'm so so glad you talked about the movement here. I thought it was just me hahaha

[@birdmanfancy9627]

I feel like if they called this game resident evil 9 and reskinned it to a different location these mechanics would fit just fine into the franchise. The fact that it’s a remake and we keep getting remakes is the problem, there’s no need to Create new game levels when they can just modernize the controls on already existing games.

[@Tony-xs4eg]

“modernize” Just means making them more accessible for simpletons, so they require less skill and brainpower to get good at.

[@sebastiankulche]

​@@Tony-xs4egThats not neccesarily true and modernize something isnt always a bad thing, especially if the original was really dated (looking at you FF1 on NES. The thing is the modernization shouldnt make the game worse and conpletely different like RE4.

[@sojamike1525]

There's only one real remake and that's FINAL FANTASY 7!!! ALL OF THESE OTHER REMAKES ARE LAZY GARBAGE!!! LITERALLY THERES ONLY UPGRADED GRAPHICS AND SOME NEW CUTSCENES AND EVERYONE IS GOING CRAZY PAYING $70 BUCKS FOR THIS GAME! CAPCOM WILL NEVER MAKE ANYTHING NEW BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY SUPPORTING THIS TYPE OF TRASH!!! NOW THEY WILL REMAKE EVERY RESIDENT EVIL GAME THAT EVER CAME OUT 🤣🤣🤣

[@hurricane7727]

Spyro Reignited Trilogy Rocks too And it didn't cost 70 dollars. Only 40 dollars

[@vehtty_]

RE4 Classic: P.R.L 412... RE Engine 4: Cat Ears... Please... Admit our old baby has more balls than yours.

[@butterr-iq4nm]

ok grandpa.

[@captainbumout]

You predicted everything about this game ha

[@dr_ubo]

I'll summerize everything you said into one sentence: Resident Evil 4 is a quintessential Mikami game, Rem4ke is a Capcom game with shades of Sony AAA design. I don't think that's inherently bad, to be honest Resident Evil hasn't disappointed since RE7 (as a matter of a fact, I see Resident Evil for Capcom as to what AssCreed later became to Ubi). Resident Evil remakes haven't missed, REmake, Resi2 Remake and Resi3 Remake included. It might not be the quintessential zeitgeist that Resident Evil 4 was originally, but it might still be a really good _game_ nonetheless. Seems to be a common feedback for _any_ game in the series (_It's a great *game*, it's just not a great *Resi* game_, as if resident evil has one defined identity). Overall, your convo over here reflects what I've been talking with boghog these past few days and I see you points. I like how you both compared Resi 4 to God Hand (yay, Shinji Mikami masterclass). I still trust Capcom (have done so since like 7-8 years ago when they ditched the westernization of stuff and leaned to their strengths), will have to judge it on its merits, I will still have my million copies of Resident Evil 4. At the end of the day, Resident Evil has had 3 distinct lines of games and a weir spin off line which might be my favorite. You have the REmake line which is classic resi, you have the Resi 4 line (Resi 4,5, Revelations 1,2 and so on), you have the more TPS line (Remakes and the weird spinoffs) and yet there are the spinoffs that I loved and no one ever played (Outbreak, Umbrella Chronicles, Gun Survivor, etc). BTW, I can see you're making an effort in improving presentation, improving editing and so on. It does not go unnoticed my friend, take care and keep up the good work. Even when we might differ in opinions at times (we mostly agree tbh), I respect what you do over here.

[@gameguy301]

Before I clicked I said to myself this is going to be a turbo fan with a very specific playstyle that is going to boil down to “it’s different, therefor it’s bad”, sadly I was correct (didn’t expect the typewriter though). You want to wedge yourself into a corner and stack up the hoard infront of you, using gigantic kick and knife hit boxes and long knock down times to control the crowd because that’s what the original game mechanics encourages you to do, and rather than taking the new mechanics on their own terms you are upset that the old tricks don’t work like they used to. Playing the original game I fell into the same pattern but considered this play style a failure on my part because it felt like a reliable method of trivialising content that was easy to fall into as a routine, players being able to optimize the fun out of their own experience is usually considered a failure of game design. A good game makes "optimal" and "fun" have as much overlap as possible. This feels like the discussions between DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal where 2016 players want that comfortable rut of running and demolish with the super shotty, while DOOM Eternal players like being pushed out of their comfort zone with more mechanics, more decisions, and empowered enemies. Just watching your demo footage was upsetting, you ate so much avoidable damage and are still in that mind set of “cornering myself = good”. Weaving the crowd isn’t hard if you just don’t corner yourself and pack the enemies so tight they overlap, that is not how to play the new game. A steady cadence of head shot -> kick while keeping your eyes open to react to windups is more than enough for a hoard of ganados. You want to be agressive while keeping an eye on a way out when the hoard breaks from being a blob and starts to resemble an arc you want to be out of there before it encloses into a circle around you. Practice makes perfect, you have clearly “perfected” your own RE4 style but wuold rather RE4 Reamke fit the same mold rather than re-adjust. you even seem to be doing things that would even be bad in the original game like running past a non stunned enemy to pull off a kick which animation locks you while that enemy throws an attack that is 100% a skill issue. you see the changes as mindless trend chasing because they deviate from the original, but I see the opposite these are direct / pointed responses to abuses the original game allowed in an attempt to make the game more dynamic and more consistently challenging / tense. Also if both game mechanics and graphical presentation are sacred what exactly CAN be changed in a remake? You already got an HD remaster and the texture mod if the original game mechanics and graphical presentation is what you crave your desires are already fulfilled so what utility could a remake possibly serve if not to offer new mechanics and graphics?

[@joeyxl3456]

You really are a breath of fresh air with these great points and videos

[@perrydimes6915]

I like that this is such a high-level analysis of things. You go through the process of designing the game at the beginning, or what must have been very close to it. What decision leads to what decision, etc. And the result is, they iteratively balanced the game such that the end result works around the new control scheme. It's a valid "solution" to the game design problem as such. But the question is why do we have this problem to begin with? Even if a game is balanced, mechanically thought through, and "correct" from a game design standpoint (as you said, it's not "broken"), the fact still remains that game design has inherent space for creativity, and a "correct"ly designed game based on the same assumptions as every other "correct"ly designed game, will rarely be interesting. Creativity, especially in game design, is in some sense a problem solving exercise, but it is not always about the final answer. The questions you ask matter, too.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

That's fantastic to hear perry! I'm glad you like my approach to reviewing and analyzing games. I think what makes OG resi4 work is still largely misunderstood.

[@jepettoNFT]

I can understand some of the changes they made (knife durability, how Leon is moving) in order to harmonize the franchise throughout the remakes, but what kills this concept is the new Leon's Face; As you said, why not keep the face he had in RE2 remake which was rather cool, the new one is very ugly. Thank you for the video

[@TheElectricUnderground]

yeah I think capcom's goal right now is to basically redo the series in their new model where they chop out all the unique aspects of each game (at least mechanically) and sort of blend them all together. Also yeah how and why did they butcher poor leon's looks.

[@baltogames1501]

They went with Gollum Leon in this game. I guess all characters in media must be ugly now.

[@jepettoNFT]

@@baltogames1501 exactly 😅

[@MrAjking808]

@@baltogames1501 well their not made for you to be attracted to lol that’s so weird especially female characters

[@baltogames1501]

@@MrAjking808 It's not about actually being attracted to them, but there is a clear push to make all characters in media unattractive.

[@JosephVice]

Bro at first I thought you were being dumb, but by the end of the video I agreed with all your assessments. Glad I stuck around, you were so funny.

[@rixgear]

It honestly just looks like how the previous two remakes play, and even RE8, just with the added features you would expect from RE4 like the roundhouse kick. RE2 and 3 remakes were also pretty different. Not just because they were PS1 games, but because the mechanics added to a third person OTS camera changes everything about puzzles, combat, and the survival horror. Though I would argue RE2 remake still maintains itself as a survival horror game, albeit a different kind from the original.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Yes I think that s the idea, remake all the games into one large blob that you can go through without to many shifts in design. That s such a modern gaming idea ha. In this process now what made all the games distinctive will be chopped away

[@rixgear]

@TheElectricUnderground yeah it's an odd homogenization of the series. Very true that it's a modern gaming idea too. One that not only has taken away what made these sequels distinct, but also akin to burying the footprints of its time. Like we are experiencing a photo of the footprint, without actually being able to tell the context surrounding it and why we have a photo to begin with lol

[@LfunkeyA]

@@TheElectricUnderground it's a modern gaming idea, but it's also what many RE fans want. many 'true' RE fans hate RE4 and would love to have it feel more like the other REs. Of course, they're wrong :). but RE4make will still be pretty good.

[@darassylmoniakam]

"though I would argue RE2 remake still maintains itself as a survival horror game, albeit a different kind from the original." i don't see why it was a bad thing.

[@BWMagus]

@@LfunkeyA RE4 is ridiculously popular. The few RE fans that wanted it changed wanted it play just like the previous several games. Which is understandable, obviously; not EVERYONE was "tired of the formula," I don't know why people get tired of things they ostensibly like so quickly. But they didn't do that either, so this isn't a remake for fans, nor is it a remake for the people who hated it from day one; it's a remake for modern gamers, many who never played the original or only tolerated it, who want another "modern" game.

[@StrongestInTheUniverse]

Great video. Glad I found your channel. Your wanted dead and gungrave gore review was great. What BGM are you using? Is that from gran turismo? Lol

[@TheElectricUnderground]

I m glad those vids were helpful in finding my stuff :-) it is indeed gt2 ost ha. I think re4 music is too low key for good background tunes

[@PlaidSuitPinstripeWorld]

RE4 is my favourite game of all time and I really enjoyed the remake demo and I'm very excited to play the full game. I'm happy to see things are different, that's the whole point of a remake VS remaster, it's supposed to be the same yet different, recognisable yet unfamiliar, I'm looking forward to saying "oooh yeah this part! But wait... This looks different, that didn't happen in the OG!" It's exciting! Why would you want it to stay the same? Especially since the OG is already on every platform.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Jellyfish in time i think we will look back on this era of remakes and this idea that changing the entire game in the remake will be laughed at, and here is why: in principal, this idea makes no sense at all, artistically. The reason why ff7 remake and resi4 remake can exist as basically new games cosplaying as the originals is because these projects are propped up by the legacy of the original games. In contrast, there are other remakes out there like Wild Guns Reloaded, which do exactly what I describe and build off the original gameplay, rather than jamming in some kind of new game into the the old's skin. So for wild guns reloaded, imagine if they turned that game into a strategy rpg, nobody would buy it because the audience buy in isn't there and the legacy audience doesn't want a strategy rpg. This formula of put a new game in the old's skin only works with massive beloved releases, and we have this bubble right now where players are bought in enough to accept this. So remaking resi4 into this generic mgs5 inspired action game is just a compromise that Capcom are currently able to get away with purely because how successful the original release is.

[@mishikomishiko9088]

I like the fancy zoom out at the beginning. The rest of the video is also very entertaining and informative. Awesome work as always! 👍♥️

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Oh i'm glad you enjoyed my little theatrical intro XD I thought I'd be standing in this vid for the extra energy

[@sebastiankulche]

Finally a review that isnt licking the game ass like everyone. I think i like more the less stiffness movement of the remake compared to the OG... but man... the atmosphere, the voice acting, the different models, the lower framerate on PS4 compared to the remaster, even the gameplay i think i dont like the new combat. I feel like this remake is just not for OG RE4 fans, but for modernist people. I also didnt like 2 and 3 remakes for those reasons.

[@suparibhau]

I love the og tank controls but that doesn't stop me from liking this modern gameplay. It's just a new way to experience re4.

[@sebastiankulche]

@@suparibhau Fair enough.

[@CrimsoniteSP]

I haven't seen the whole vid at the time of writing this, I'll get there, I just woke up, but you're not alone. Being a huge fan since 06, I went into this hoping for the best. And immediately got slapped in the face with it's control systems. In a vid I'm editing, I said "This is not a remake, it's a reimagining." A remake kinda implies it's going to keep mostly everything the same but with a new coat of paint. Immediately, they've made changes to literally everything. The story is literally different due to how Leon sees everything now, Leon isn't as cocky, map is different, gunplay is different, character designs changed drastically, even the title design is completely different. But that's the key word, "different." I don't think this game will be bad by any means. If the demo has anything to go by, this game is going to be a smash hit and will strike a chord in everyone's hearts, but I genuinely don't think I'll be seeing myself playing this game for over a decade and a half anytime soon. The original RE4 just has so much depth and skill expression and the remake doesn't.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

right exactly Crimson. What's funny is that if they want to do all this different stuff from the gameplay to the story, why not just make a new game? it's really sad how we live in this remake culture so deeply that all a game needs to do is essentially take the premise and name of an existing popular game and somehow insert itself into that game's legacy, forever. This game should be called: Resident Evil 4 - Fanfiction

[@CrimsoniteSP]

@@TheElectricUnderground Pretty much. If this game was just a new RE game, I don't think I'd have any issues. Heck, if they change "remake" to "reimagined" or "a new tale," something to imply that the game isn't the same as the OG, I wouldn't have any issues. It's the fact they're trying to pass it off as the legendary RE4 title without even trying to keep the integrity of the original gameplay. Also, I watched your vid all the way through and I pretty much agree to everything. Especially the knife. I get why it has durability, but it really shouldn't. What they need to do is make the parry mechanic harder with a higher reward, rather than just holding the button down. They've already nerfed it's damage, range and stun capabilities, it doesn't need durability. And the parry mechanic, even if there is a weak and perfect parry, it's both too easy and not rewarding enough to even go for.

[@gamewizord]

@@CrimsoniteSP I feel the same way I'm a big fan of 4 and of the series in general 4 is my fav I've played it countless times I played the demo didn't think much of it as bad but played it more and more saw all the story changes and how Leon isn't this cocky, quirky goofball that he is in 4 outside of the bingo line in the demo which is honestly misleading the audience based on the scenes from some of the trailers I've seen it's like they put that in their to hype old fans up like he said the thing see we care. When in actuality they don't care Ashley's character is problematic now so we have to change how Leon and her interact some scenes that I've seen seem to just suck the Joy out of the games campyness like the cabin scene with Luis Ashley and leon run in and Luis throws Leon a thing to bar the door they we get campy goodness dialogue with Luis talking about ballistics the scene isn't serious. Now in the remake they run in and Luis shuts and bars the door Leon looks at Luis angrily say's you and storms towards him slamming him against the wall the entire scene is now completely different removing all of It's charm it's like they Just want everything to be serious maybe with a hint of what it use to be here and there. Then you got the line No thanks Bro being completely removed and changed to fat chance the girls fine with me. Makes me wonder what other dialogue they''ve changed and removed is Leon asking Hunnigan out going to be removed at that point you're stripping away things that made me love the original so why would I bother giving you money for a remake of a game I love if it retained it's charm it'd be one thing but as of now they've shown me they don't care about fan's like me and that's just the story problems never mind the voices not being as good gameplay not being as balanced I'd rather buy the Hd version on pc and play with mods for the first time since I'm new to PC gaming which is on sale for like 5 dollars now on top of some other solid cheaper experiences then give capcom 60 dollars for this soulless attempt at a remake. I had a conversation on another video about the knife breaking and they're like if it didn't break it would trivialize the parry mechanic. Well like he said in the video 1 why do we even need a parry the original didn't need it why is it needed here 2 like he also said in the video and what I said to this person then make the parry harder to pull off don't make it so easy to pull off so it takes more skill to use atm it's very easy to pull off it's damn near impossible to miss a parry unless you don't have a knife since it broken which that in of it self breaks the mechanic no knife can't parry sorry. Why would you make a parry that can only be used sometimes that's Just stupid. There is Just so much wrong with this narratively and mechanically I've decided not to get it and I had it pre order for a while now probably since it was announced I hate that I feel this way I love 4 but as it stands I'll Just buy it on pc and have fun with mods then give capcom my money for this.

[@moderndespair9922]

@@CrimsoniteSP you don't know what a remake is. you think a remake is a remaster.

[@fazelfarrokhi1998]

​@@CrimsoniteSP yes right re4 original is better than remake

[@HansAlRachid]

This is one of the most unnecessary, even pointless remakes ever. Hell, even if it turns out great it would still be redundant in and of itself. If ever a game had absolutely no need of a second go it would be RE4. That game achieved everything it set out to and then some. And hell, then they even went and added more (janky) stuff in the rereleases! What is the point of this? Even the visuals of the original are still in an acceptable place! They could have made just about any other game, even a different remake (like Code: Veronica, say? A game that might actually benefit from a remake?) and it would have been a more purposeful choice. But no - name recognition and brand exploitation matter more. Gimme that 6-7 percent higher profit margin, baby! Just make new games. Seriously. Base them off ideas from the old ones if you have to, but good lord, just make new ones. This insulting remake loop is painful.

[@yoshikiretro1452]

I've had the same thoughts while playing the demo. I don't know if they will have time to change much of this before the release date

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Yeah I m thinking probably not, but some of it might be patched later on. I don't think it matters too much to Capcom though as they already have their 10/10 scores locked in with IGN and everyone

[@Buffypoodle]

@@TheElectricUnderground I never trust IGN and the like, only user reviews.

[@YahariTube]

Quality content, as always. Shotout from Algeria (North Africa). Maybe the clankiness in movement is from added input lag or a longer start up animations. You should test with some frame by frame testing.

[@zabylurt]

If someone is out of ammo then theres seriously something wrong with their style of gameplay, the game gives you plenty of enough ammo

[@iKenZ]

i get all his points, but if you don’t like the remake then don’t play it. i personally think it good

[@White927]

And there's seriously something wrong with the Resident Evil franchise if you blame RE 5,6 and not RE 4 for action action action.

[@originalityisdead.9513]

​@@White927RE4 is where the series went to shit.

[@White927]

​@@originalityisdead.9513 And also what an over the shoulder game and first third person while TPS and OTS existed before Resident Evil 4, WAY back in other video games. Best game of all time? They seriously need to stop praising this game, it's really getting out of hand, and all the praise makes the game even more overrated now that this remake is out, which isn't as faithful as it can be to the original, while RE 1 remake showed what a remake look like, Capcom doesn't even take examples so they just go with the action fanboys ( RE 4 fanboys). I seriously thought Capcom really changed their mind when creating Resident Evil 7 and in a good way which also lacked some Resident Evil but was still better than Resident Evil 8, I also liked the 2 and 3 remakes for their standalone part but not as a remake though.

[@originalityisdead.9513]

@White927 Capcom keep making the same mistakes over and over. They, once again took the series in the wrong direction with RE8, I'm not even interested in RE9 as they've proven that the studio needs re structured. The RE4 remake has worse facial animation than previous titles and there's a review that states, even for an RE game the voice acting is bad. Leon controls like a tank as well which wasn't so bad in RE2 and 3 but in RE4 when movement and positioning is key, it matters.

[@arkinrain5758]

Honestly, I legit beat og 4 so many times I got it down to a science. I mean it's second nature for me. In fact, I have og down so hardcore that I can't play it anymore. It's lost its luster. And the reason for that is because it was so God their that I couldn't put it down till I killed it for myself (like Skyrim lol) With that being said, the demo caught me off guard like crazy and I loved it. For me, it actually felt like discovering re4 for the first time again. I understand ur points and I wouldn't say they're invalid. But as a veteran player of the og, 4make reignited my excitement to delve into a masterpiece. I'd argue the generic shooter idea could also be flipped. Og 4 is the source of what eventually created the generic shooter in the first place. Everything emulated 4s third person gameplay back then because it was just that good. Now, remake is emulating modernized 3rd person because that in turn is now that good. Remake requires u to pay attention, react quickly and plan out ur paths. Og did the same on its release. U couldn't play it like its predecessors. U had to adjust ur play style and most players mastered it (like u) And I'll master 4make too. The new mechanics for the most part achieve what I think they set out too, putting u in tight situations. U can't rely on what u knew in og. Ik I found that out really fucking fast lol. Also, the knife is essentially a reloadable weapon now. Just like the guns. If u run out of ammo, that's on u. Just like it was in 1,2,3, and cv before 4. Resource management has always been a core factor for the series (the og anyway). I think what's happening is, because so many veteran players mastered og4, there's a disconnect because there's an assumed familiarity going in. But that's not what remakes or reimaginings are for. Did u not struggle even a little with og4 on ur first run through? It's the same thing with 4make. A new gameplay style to master. Of course it feels like a mix mash of ideas and concepts. It's a 15 minute demo. It doesn't matter how much time u spend on it, ur constantly locked down to eat the game gives u in that section. There's no variables or comparisons to end game or ngp. For Leon's movement, I kinda understand. Put again, it's just a new system to master. But I also played rdr2 in 3rd person the entire game so I guess I just have a really high tolerance for sluggish movement but that's completely subjective so. Also. Leon is fuck ugly in 4make. 100% agree. He doesn't look right. And somehow, they managed to make his haircut look like a Karen cut. Irks tf outta me. With the dead dog, I assume it's a fake out. They've been very adamant that they only added to the game and didn't cut anything so I don't imagine they'd gamble on that since most players very fondly remember setting the dog free. One point I do agree with though, is the shotgun. I can definitely see that it doesn't feel quite as impactful. But at the same time, it was about the same in 2 and 3makes so it doesn't bother me much. But I do see ur point. As far as the, why not make a new game instead argument, I understand ur point. I somewhat agree even. But like I said before, as someone that's played og into a shallow grave, remakes give me back excitement and enjoyment. Not to mention, re9s still a thing that's being worked on anyway so it's not as if 4make disbarred future projects. But again, the make a new game instead thing is subjective. I agree and disagree there. As far as being a downgrade, I completely disagree. For me, 4make plays fresh enough that I wanna keep going but with a difficulty curve that makes me wanna master it like I did og. The enemies bum rushing and crowding and flanking elevates the situations in a way I wasn't prepared for at all. Whereas in og, the enemy behavior stays more or less the same throughout (common enemies) until the island. While entertaining, it becomes very predictable and familiar. There's not much guess work. The remake enemies are considerably more unpredictable so far. There's more incentive to keep moving instead of corner camping. I'll admit there is a bit of sponginess. And the first enemy is op AF lol but u can also easily evade him and not waste a single shot or bullet so that complaints kinda void imo. And once the village fight starts, most enemies drop about as fast as the og. I'd also point out that og had its fair share of sponges too. On pro especially. Commons took almost full clips of u didn't know wat u were doing. So in conclusion, I understand ur points and I think they're presented well. I just disagree with most.

[@jamiewatts333]

Hey. Just some tips for people who want to enjoy the game more: 1. Perfectly timed (not spammed) knife parries do not just sever the arms of weaponless Ganados -- they will always leave Ganados open to a roundhouse kick indicated by a sound cue that differs slightly from the regular parry (listen carefully). Try experimenting with the Ganado just before the village gate. 2. If you feel the camera or aiming is 'sluggish', maximize all 'Camera Acceleration" options in settings to disable them. 3. Maximize 'Field of View' in the settings for better environmental awareness. 4. Armed Ganados (such as those holding axes) can be disarmed by repeatedly shooting their hands. 5. Crouching essentially serves as a 'dodge' mechanic when weaponless Ganados lunge at you. You can also stagger lunging Ganados with a perfectly timed knife jab to the head (not slash). 6. Maximize camera speed in the settings. This way, you don't have to use the 'instant spin' command. Adjust aiming camera speed in settings until you're comfortable. 7. If you shoot the legs of armed Ganados (such as those holding pitchforks) who charge, you can occasionally cause them to fall to the ground. 8. If you're struggling with the combat, you can use the village as a 'training ground' repeatedly if you allow your death before the bell tolls. Diligently practice your aiming; never stop moving -- as a general rule, change location for every two to three Ganados killed; never linger in areas which are too 'open'; unless you're doing a 'knife-only' run, only use the knife for parries or when you've run out of ammunition; exploit the roundhouse kick as much as possible; always disarm or kill armed Ganados in groups first. On the other hand, if you're worried the game will be too easy: 'Hardcore' and 'Professional' Mode have been confirmed in achievements. 9. If you find the image too 'blurry', turn off 'Lens Distortion', 'Depth of Field', and 'Motion Blur' in the settings. 10. Ganados can set bear traps. Be careful. 11. Instead of landing a single headshot on an armed Ganado and then performing a roundhouse kick, try landing two -- if you do so, you can know for certain that the roundhouse kick will finish them off. Hope these help. Take care. :)

[@OliverKlozzofff]

Personally dreading the Silent Hill 2 Remake more. As mixed as the discourse is around Resident Evil and its remakes pegging the differences between the two is at least a simple matter of comparing very observable qualities in the game's design, graphics, what was added/removed, etc. Silent Hill 2 is more arthouse-ey, lauded more for it's story and atmosphere which is way easier to mess up imo. It's a fickle thing atmosphere and tone can be, especially for games. Something as little as the lighting, delivery of voicelines, or the facial animations being off can tank the main appeal of that title and don't even get me started on the possibility of the devs adding too many modern gaming trends and turning James into some action hero. I guess only time can tell if they drop the ball or not.

[@moosepotato4116]

There's a zero percent chance the SH2 remake is good. It's going to be a pile of shit.

[@TheCyclicGamer]

THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who thought the hunter's lodge section was lame in the remake compared to the original, but noooo people were telling me "No you're wrong because in the remake, it looks more lived in and the gameplay is more cinematic!" I don't care for that stuff, what I do care is that it plays worse than the original and the introduction to your first enemy is far worse than in the original (It also spoils the nature of the enemies you are fighting, so when they all leave at the end of the village section, that sense of mystery of what just happened and why is spoiled).

[@SayMy_User_Name]

People get more hyped for remakes and reboots n sequels nowadays than they do for, ya know, brand new original games and new IP’s.. it’s kinda laughable n sad ar the same time

[@Tony-1971]

All the new stuff is woke af though. Movies and games. People longing for the times before the woke bullshit infected everything with retardedness.

[@miltiadiskoutsokeras9189]

I think that most things people liked in RE4 were not conscious choices but after effects of the game system design. The shot limb - knife was something gamers found out to conserve ammo, instead of designers pushing that tactic as default or optimal. I thing the Remake will be a different game with the similar story just like RE 2 & 3 Remakes.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

That is an interesting idea but I don't think so because of how tightly balanced the design of resi4 is. If the beat em up elements of the game were unintended, then they would be far more degen, and you can find this type of thing in action games. In resi 4 though, it all fits together far too well for it to be an accident. You can tell they spent so much time balancing and tuning the gameplay, down to the zombie walk speeds and the way their attacks track. It's just not possible for it to be accidental design.

[@miltiadiskoutsokeras9189]

@@TheElectricUnderground I am not saying they randomly nailed it. They just wanted to have variety which allowed gamers to create strategies from this. It was not SFII combo bug, it was more like Guilty Gear options overload which led to balance. At least that is how I remember it. I played the GC version near launch and I recall to knife ONLY when ammo was scarce. The I tried the PS2 version and played it differently. Then the original PC version and mostly snipped. All strategies were effective which can be interpreted as solid design or sadly.. Low challenge.

[@sebastiankulche]

When a game does something good unintentionally, is still good in my eyes.

[@miltiadiskoutsokeras9189]

@@sebastiankulche Yeap always welcome good even as an after effect. RE4 was 2005's game of the year and we'll deserved it.

[@ferfelekistotoridis6494]

i disagree.. the fact that you dont have ammo and must run is much more intense. Thats the way it is meant to be. Intense!

[@magicjohnson3121]

Running away is lame and boring gameplay

[@ferfelekistotoridis6494]

@@magicjohnson3121 it depends of how you play i guess.

[@SupremeVictory420]

@@ferfelekistotoridis6494 if thats such an issue just sell your ammo lol i do that all the time

[@ferfelekistotoridis6494]

@@SupremeVictory420 apparently you don't get what i am telling. There is that chance too to not do good management of your ammo. its a game mechanic

[@Spongebob-lf5dn]

Its an action horror, you're supposed to use your guns.

[@HeavenlyEchoVirus]

RE4 was probably my first shooting game, and I can’t tell you how frequently I was knifing my way through everything because of all my wasted bullets.

[@BamdTheBamd]

lol i remember when i wanted to make my own game then i discovered shmups and realised we already have perfect games

[@TheElectricUnderground]

the only solution is to make your own shmup bamd :-)

[@Gavengelica]

Great stuff. This is what made the game so replayable, unique and addictive to a lot of people. More than they may realize. New game doesn't have any of that and it's mostly held up by it's novelty factors and general visual presentation. It's not bad, it's pretty good in it's own right. But it's not OG RE 4.

[@TheElectricUnderground]

Great summary archive. Yes it's a decent shooter action game (with more in common with mgs5 than resi4 tbh) that is walking around in resi4's skin.

[@Aceskies]

The same happened with Metroid Prime Remastered my boy. They removed the OG controls for the standard fps controls and now everybody is like "how can you play with OG controls?" at the same time saying "oh the game is too easy". Ya I know, you are playing it the way it was not designed to be played