Men Of War 2 Is HERE But Fans Are ANGRY

Here is a response to Rimmy Down unders Video on men of war
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[@HellAbr]

these are different devs.

[@danielomar9712]

Pathfinding in Mowas2 is bad enough And the fact that sometimes your troops refuse to respond to enemy fire How did they NOT learn from that ? I know its a different dev team than Mowas but didn't they have time to *LEARN* ?

[@jacksheldon8566]

That's my experience in GoH tho. Infantry is usually super responsive and can defend themselves.

[@CMDRFandragon]

isnt it amazing how the same shit keeps reappearing in these games?

[@caseymauldin8396]

Here’s to hoping the devs get the message and start shaping the game into something worth of the name.

[@Delly_bean]

People are vehemently defending the game on the discord, so probably not likely.

[@sebastianchantre3152]

Can someone explain to me why this game is a thing when we already have Gates of hell: Ostfront? I haven't played this but it looks almost exactly the same but worse in EVERY way

[@stephenb1367]

Completely different devs

[@stormy1055]

GOH is better when it's on a sale you can basically get every dlc for cheap and less than mow 2

[@sebastianchantre3152]

@@stephenb1367 same engine. Basically a mod for a game developed by the developers of many of the Men of War games, extreamly similar game mechanics, shared assets. What ablut what I said originally didn't you understand?

[@tarcus6074]

@@sebastianchantre3152 Why this world needs you if there is me?

[@sebastianchantre3152]

@@tarcus6074 are you stupid?

[@ares106]

I don’t want games where humans behave like automatons with no sense of self preservation, dying to obey my every command.

[@CyanTeamProductions]

you will hate RTS

[@ares106]

@@CyanTeamProductions classic RTS yes, I want the genre to evolve past Dune2 conventions.

[@Hunter_6601]

@@ares106 warno units can be given circumstantial orders such as if taking fire from out of range they go to cover to retreat

[@miceliusbeverus6447]

Depends on the category of game. And also, in real life, sometimes on the category of soldiers too...😊

[@gokudo-cf5pt]

In my experience. If the RTS need you to micro manage even a singel unit for it to do their intended job then it's fail. One of the example is early aoe4 where they try to make it easy for villager and military unit to manage them even if it's just to add a butten for idel unit

[@MegaTranquilla]

This game needs a new engine so bad. They have been milking it ever since the first assault squad

[@tarcus6074]

You need new brains so bad.

[@GG21188]

I agree with everything but There is an option in settings to turn infantry highlights on in mission so you can see where your troops are and you wont struggle to find them or see them anymore via blue highlights when in bushes and also icons above there heads at all time which displays weapon equipped. BUT THIS SHOULD OF BEEN ON BY DEFAULT

[@shaun_177]

Good looking out. I'll have to fix that! One of my biggest issues

[@ResonantRTS]

Thats a good tip. However you dont need highlights in AS2 to see troops and I never seem to have issues in that game so idk what they changed for this

[@darthbinks5987]

You can turn on silhouettes and there's a special section in settings to turn on icons for both yours and enemy units to be always visible.

[@KeirGevo]

MEN OF WAR ASSAULT SQUAD 3 WITH UPDATED 64BIT ENGINE FROM CALL TO ARMS WAS WHAT WE ALL WANTED 😢. PLEASE JESUS ONE DAY MAKE THE OLD DEVS COME BACK 😂

[@TheManofthecross]

those days are long gone and will never come back. you have to make due with what's there and you got to do it yourself.

[@ComandorPotato]

Uh that what Gates of Hell is...

[@samz8691]

To me at least, I'd more interested if they had new factions. Red Tide added Italy and Romania as enemy factions as well as a captured french tank for the germans. A similar to MOW RTS I've discovered is Theatre of War and that game has both France and Poland as playable factions which I find cool.

[@WindHaze10]

The game from watching the videos is way too sped up and vehicles move like they have 1000HP engines. Or is it just me?

[@Sol4rFl4r3]

depends on the tanks, the heavy ones move slow, maps are big and pretty much tanks fire across the map easily unlike the previous games. Of course with a light armor you wanna close in and get a higher pen rate if you manage to.

[@gilbertk918]

I know it looks fast but I personally think it plays well. Due to the scale of men of war maps, as the US (or soviets or with even some smaller German tanks) at least, with the Stuart variants and even Chaffee, I really feel like I have the mobility as a light tank to move around and use my speed to get to a good flanking position for infantry. No lie though, sometimes it does feel a little jumpy without a doubt, where you’ll click somewhere and make a move order and see them jut forward and make a sharp turn, and it’s a little jarring but it doesn’t happen all that much. I think it’s because the terrain behaves a lot different in this game and it does feel a lot better, most of the time, you can actually “fall” off a small hill or something or a small rock face etc and not have your tank implode or the physics break and it flies up 500m. The PvE and story mode / additional modes are really fun. PvE battalions is a great way to get used to the game and a LOT of fun to play and experiment with different units with players. The enemy AI is really good on normal, in my opinion. Not unable to be outsmarted, or outplayed, but will put up a good fair challenge. I do very much dislike when they have a KV-2 at the absolute back corner of the map and I fire one artillery shell with my brand new howitzer, with sandbags and camouflage nets and all, and it’s instantly destroyed. However, on the same margin, I love flanking through the enemy lines with a scout car or light tank and destroy some of their far back artillery or main guns firing on my lines. Most of the hate towards this game to me comes from Rimmy’s video, and I admit I think they should have been a lot more open about what they were going to implement or not implement feedback wise, as to not disappoint people. It wasn’t “what they wanted” or what we all wanted but I genuinely think it’s refreshing and fun. The models, graphics and sounds are beautifully well done, and the theme is also nice. I wish the unit AI was even just a hair better, but to me this is a penance I am willing to pay. The health bars are such a non-issue, and can be disabled. It works the same way old men of wars did, still penetration, still crew shocking with HE, and any vehicle blows up the same way it did in MoW AS2 if you shot it too much. It’s a high price to pay, but anyone who liked MoWas2 I’d say should try MOW 2, but ensure that if they aren’t certain they’re going to like it that they play under two hours, as to be able to refund it if they really didn’t like it. I personally sat on 119 minutes and unsure if I was gonna actually play and keep it, and wasn’t sure if I liked it as I didn’t really learn all the systems for Battalions yet. I stuck it out and I think it was worth it. I should add I haven’t played through every mission, every unit unlocked, every yada yada, but I just think people were too fast to judge.

[@MichelRangel1]

Yes, it's actually faster than previous games, in fact everything is faster, shooting, loading, etc.

[@darthbinks5987]

I've managed to break through this invisible wall in D-Day mission. Nonetheless I have to admit that a couple of missions almost made me enter low orbit. In Lutich mission your officer tells you to blow up bridges because you're surrounded and outgunned, but the bridges are in fact indestructible for some reason, even the one made of wood. At the end of the mission I had literally 2 infantry men without ammo running for their lives to the edge of the map when finally retreat order was sent.

[@EL_BEANE_GUY]

Why would anybody olay this when they could play gates of hell

[@tarcus6074]

Why would someone eat meat if they can eat bread...

[@dragonace119]

@@tarcus6074 Rotten maggot infested meat or slightly stale bread, your choice.

[@ANIMshit]

Because men of war 2 is cheaper and is more fun to play. Gates of hell mp is dead, you need to get some friends so you could play coop atleast

[@TheRingoism]

@@ANIMshit Not all about MP, the gameplay Is what's Important in Men of War and the gameplay in Men of War 2 Is complete wank.

[@cooleyfc]

call at arm are the best, it have fps mode not like gate of hell.. they just need fix how soldier move and shot more realitic than look like robot

[@hartley9958]

To be fair Men of War 2 has the worst path finding of any of the older titles put together just bad......

[@tarcus6074]

You are just too dumb for this game.

[@Wothanaz]

Call to arms even with all their bugs and lack of polishing in some aspects, it's much superior (in my opinion, of course!), and the devs are making a great job with updates trying to improve the experience.

[@jacksheldon8566]

I dont understand how you have some troubles selecting infantry, then clicking on repair button, then clicking on repaireable vehicle... Also, if you dont want units to charge an mg because they follow your orders... Use F5. It act the same as mowas2... UI elements that got hidden for singleplayer can be activated back in the option menu.

[@JamesEarlCash]

After this "review" I realized that unsubscribe button is here. Not the first time Resonant made me to doubt if his channel is worth subscribing to. Right now I know that it's better to find another place.

[@johan13135]

Stop simping for a broken, shitty game. The good devs that made the previous games have all but left, some of them joined gates of hell team. The remainers is the retards that made Arena

[@Der_Herzog]

the voiceline was the final bullet i couldnt dodge. refunded it

[@deusameno579]

Gates of hell :)

[@DimoPechenikov]

I have OSTfront and men of war 2. And I can easily say that Ostfront gave me much more emotional diarrhea than men of war 2, due to the horrendous multiplayer service and abismal issues with video settings in Ostfront.

[@jackobrien47]

Claims to have played since Heroes of ww2 and yet turns off the amazing voice acting? This series is the only place you can still find incredible Resident Evil 1 quality voice acting!

[@CMDRFandragon]

They got that Call to Arms AI

[@MrSpergen]

I was so looking for ward to this! Who here remembers Sir Hinkle and Miggies ? Hours of my life gone lol

[@douxiepoo]

you can literally just press escape to quit the game, why are u reviewing a game when u have zero common sense?

[@sionbarzad5371]

I'm happy I didn't listen to the negativity. MoW2 is amaaazing, one week into it and I'm already at 40h, still at 26h in CoH over a year later ;)

[@Hunter_6601]

Compare it to another men of war game or gates of hell and it flounders, ofc it’s better the coh that game is pure arcade

[@MetricOwl-tv8zx]

I’m sad that coh got rid of support on console :(

[@Sol4rFl4r3]

@@Hunter_6601 If you compare it to the prev men of war games, the game is better. I mean, go play Assault Squad 2 online rn, the ranges are ridiculous, the soldiers are bullet sponges and if you don't use the abusive sand bag spam meta your inf is screwed, it's far from "arcade" compared to the prev titles. GOH is alright, but it had years of patching, Men of war 2 also has added a classic mode, just like in the previous titles, play that.

[@stormy1055]

​@SolarNeonFlare You can find a multi-player match in less time in MOW 2 and have the beloved mechanics that MOW 2 doesn't have the graphics still look great but outdated MOW 2 is slightly better, had more factions, was offline, had more maps and units and better ai than MOW 2... Yeah mowas2 is better than MOW 2

[@Sol4rFl4r3]

@@stormy1055 i still wouldn't bother with mowas2 in multiplayer without the robz mod, the low range of units, spongy nature of units, which makes for the sandbag meta to feel like crap if you don't do it, I prefer mow2 or coh over that sry. at least in coh they work as squads with abilities

[@darthbinks5987]

This game's loading is 4 times faster than GoH for me, while GoH is installed on SSD and men of war 2 uses HDD

[@Moon_Cricket_Stinks]

Why get this over GoH? I'm genuinely interested in answers.

[@Sung_Jam]

just buy Call to Arms Ostfront. Its better

[@pascalbourelier3463]

Hey Ostfront plays like an early 2000 RTS, nice gameplay ideas but damn Company of Heroes 1 feels better / more advanced :°

[@piratenkapitan7533]

​@@pascalbourelier3463 I prefer Ostfront for its realism

[@portman8909]

Company of Heroes 1 is a cartoon compared to Osfront. No realism.@@pascalbourelier3463

[@youyou-xs2dn]

I would love to see mow assault squad 3 because i really loved the campaign of the 2nd

[@tomtomed1]

Just gonna save my money for ultimate general

[@ehsanehsan8923]

man i played the first men of war and the assault squad 2 the AI in those games can actually make decisions on its own and engage the enemy when they see them even automatically change to anti armor weapons if they have any and engage tanks,that being said the AI in the newer games both gates of hell and men of war 2 cant do anything without being told,like anti tank guns don't engage tanks half the time on their own and die because of it,infantry ignores enemy infantry closing in and die to them.i get it if they want to focus on micro managing but this is just silly.

[@robo-suport_czrobofactory3116]

i loved gates of hell and MOWAS 2 but playing this just makes me feel missery and sadness

[@sorrdiegamed695]

Bought it for me and my brother played 1 game looked like a cheap version of gates of hell uninstalled started gates of hell again had a good time :)

[@DeadWayfes]

Ah the algorithm for pathfinding seems shit. They didnt put values for cover or opem terrain but just made terrain passable. Lower complexity

[@misterc9641]

the game started as a free to play cancelled project. seems like we will have to stay playing assault squad 2 or gates of hell

[@titianplaysfifa]

If they would only listen and change it accordingly it would be a great game …

[@erwin887]

10.20 did that guy fall out of a window and die?

[@tophmcgoph9229]

Yes and it happens ALOT.

[@pascalbourelier3463]

Welp Company of Heroes it is then! I was waiting to see if it was worth it, but seems like even release CoH3 seems better, so CoH3 at current state is miles better with much more attention to detail... MoW2 looks so dated and robotic even in 2024 :|

[@isimiel3405]

fuck that get Gates of Hell

[@KigreTheViking]

I think its the first game ive played that doesnt actually have a "Quit" button ingame. You have to press ESC. Ive played games for 35 years.

[@tarcus6074]

Moron.

[@lukedodson6378]

Same studio but I doubt any of the original devs work there anymore. It's basically an entirely new studio with 0 Men of War experience. I wanted to give them a little faith after they pulled the mess that was Cold War. But it seems fans are better at making successors than the current staff at the studio. Considering Ostfront is why most people I know own CTA and Ostfront, which has some flaws. Is my favorite of the genre, they seem to want to make a game that you will enjoy. Not something you will buy.

[@varyagace]

Your feelings of REALLY wanting to like this game because the franchise is one of your favorites of all time and being so disappointed at the new game that you get ANGRY has been me over the past few years. Almost every modern sequel to games I have always loved and still play has been a massive disappointment. Men of War, Homeworld, have ben just the most recent examples. I'm kinda glad I didn't have money to buy them on release so I wouldn't get even more disappointed at having wasted it.

[@sh00ty76]

comp isn't what makes assault squad 2 great, neither is the realism. the land mattress is

[@supolik2]

you know what would help singleplayer MOW ? If you could stop or slow time and micro that game, because your unit AI is so bad, that this game needs a lot of micro :(((

[@jackobrien47]

You can pause and give orders. It's literally the only way any of the games in this series are playable. It boggles my mind that anyone would try to play MoW in real time or multiplayer honestly.

[@supolik2]

@@jackobrien47 Oh snap you can ? I will have to check that one one day, when I decide to come back. thanks for the tip chief.

[@jackobrien47]

@supolik2 from memory i think it's spacebar but you can assign it in controls. Also in this video he complains about not being able to see his troops. I think if you hold tab it highlights them and all interactable items on the screen

[@supolik2]

@@jackobrien47 yeah it does highlight them, i think that in older games this effect would turn on by default if your troops were obstructed by something

[@aXPw39]

Well this sucks, had high hopes for this game.

[@Greg-jq1co]

Its basically the same game but with little to no improvements. The engine is still the same old crap.

[@Sol4rFl4r3]

I've played it, there's lots of improvements.

[@Greg-jq1co]

@@Sol4rFl4r3 Gates of hell is way better.

[@Sol4rFl4r3]

@@Greg-jq1co then play that

[@Greg-jq1co]

@@Sol4rFl4r3 I am lol. And I don't have to be online lol. Enjoy lol🤣

[@Sol4rFl4r3]

@@Greg-jq1co joke's on you, you're online rn and Men of war 2 announced full offline mode in an upcoming patch, who cares if it needs internet for now? Don't be a hypocrite, you're online whenever you're touching the keyboard. Game won't be dead when they drop support, it's far off seeing their previous actual men of war titles and with an announcement of offline mode it's all settled.

[@buckcherry2564]

Always online Going to be removed ASAP, per the devs. Trenches The pathfinding has no idea what to do with the nice mission-placed trenches. If you single-click move to a different part of a normal trench, they will move inside the trench to get there. If you double-click, they will sprint and take the shortest route (often over the top) The ability to curve trenches, adjust the spacing, and connect to other trenchworks is nice. Seeing your guys There is a setting to show silhouettes. Sounds You get all those ricochet sounds and bullets pitting into siding, etc. This is a lot of frustrations coming from not knowing functionality and options (and not even hinted at by the devs, so almost not the critics' fault). ALL OF THAT SAID: I actually agree completely with your mentality. The feeling of being let down, it not remotely living up to what was expected (even from those of us that didnt want or like GoH). I am sticking with it, because I can put it in realistic mode and play classic deployment in solo-lobbies Incursions and get a very MoWAS2 feel out of it and still enjoy it, or at least scratch that itch. I am also confident in modders and the like to make it better. For a negative video, this was one of the better ones, fair play to ya.

[@louischerik4557]

Always online will take months to get fixed, they said so, and even then, they should not have released it in this way

[@lokiikol2917]

There was no British or Japanese campaign in Men of War so not less content here. The rest of the problems have been around since MoW, I don't understand if you had fun with MoWAS you should have fun here too ?

[@SQRL_TAC]

Graviteam...

[@agentkaabi9967]

I like the game and we had the most fun in co-op

[@nordicpawsproductions465]

It's been out for a month Didn't they fix anything? 🤔🤔🤔

[@sirvalentine8883]

love to see your review of gates of hell

[@darthbinks5987]

Game shouldn't make you angry. Tell that to Dota 2 players😂

[@tophmcgoph9229]

The infrantry in this game is complete trash....the infrantry gets wipped out instantly, behind good cover. Its a joke.

[@TheOGstriker]

You just press escape key to quit the game bro.....

[@NathanAdams-v4c]

and honestly when it comes to certain bugs they are so much funnier than gates of hell because of the Arcady nature of this game and so it's very easy and fun to get along whereas gates of hell try to do realism so much that when bugs do happen its more infuriating then fun because we take it so seriously and we are so competitive

[@quimble2177]

The fan base is fascinating. I mean the die hard defenders. They’ll unironically claim the game is good, and even that it’s better than Gates of Hell. I’d love to know what they’re using to get that high, i fuckin want some lol

[@jacksheldon8566]

Unironically mow2 has better QOL, better overall gameplay mechanics, less bugs and better multiplayer... Than GoH. And better AI. GoH AI is dumb and never shoot on their own on close ennemy.

[@JamesEarlCash]

Tbh the haters train isn't much better - trying to nitpick every single thing. Just watch whole Resonant review, and try not to laugh at his cluelessness.

[@kloon9699]

​@@JamesEarlCashGates of Hell was a broken mess on release, but that's conveniently forgotten when people talk about this game. It doesn't mean this game is good, but perhaps it will be in a few years.

[@JamesEarlCash]

@@kloon9699 true

[@Underground3]

The only people I see that said this game is good are shills or people who are coming from COH3.

[@darthbinks5987]

Tank controls are a bit broken, but still you should've completed tutorial on movement and formations. It moves in reverse because you ordered it to move in reverse.

[@dllm4254]

gates of hell ostfront the best game ever...mowas2 played 5912hrs... mow2 never wanted to get the game till now. yet

[@yousefzayabi37]

Criticism is one thing, hating is something else. I wonder you're angry because the game have sponsored every world war RTS KZbinrs but you.😂 Come on man, be professional. The game has boring story mode, but overall it's an upgrade for other men of war games.

[@NathanAdams-v4c]

and also want to see your guys better turn on show silhouette omg how do people keep forgetting this it's really not hard to see your guy's

[@mike_ffs]

To be fair, Troy wasnt a copy of total war arena, Arena ran in the Rome 2 assets, Troy was made using the Warhammer assets, tbh is really not hard to see the difference lol.

[@wesleys4507]

Yes, yes it is.

[@Sol4rFl4r3]

More crying, game is good. Another video that just only goes after bad remarks with like 0 neutrality. It's only online for now, it'll be patched with offline mode, you're online now, stop crying about it, most of the whiners on that subject whine online lol, this is one of the worst things to complain about when you obviously have ez access to the internet, in case your net drops, hotspot your phone and connect with the PC. Also for those blinded by nostalgia, Assault Squad 2 was a very arcadish game, go play a multiplayer match, troops are literal sponges and if you don't use the crappy metas you're doomed. Assault Squad 2 was only good due to ROBZ mod and even that with certain settings, artillery made inf useless and after mid game it could get to parts where inf was close to useless. How is repairing a tank hard, you just move your cursor over the tank and the wrench auto appears and you just right click. Even if it was a "deeper" system, play a few matches and you got used to it, it's not something to cry about, I swear people just look to nitpick stuff just to hate something. I've yet to have to wait 5 mins in que, just rejoin the que. The classic mode and the new brigades mode always finds matches within 1 min in EU times. Especially the brigades one which is what I've mostly been playing. This game is tons better than the other ones. Even GOH which I like and still jump on, if someone lags a bit the whole match feels like crap and sluggish, your units have this weird rubberband that makes it awful to direct control in general and nothing worse than having that slugish feel when you got multiple units to send in while getting shot at, that's not an issue here, the occasional stutter will surely be fixed and it beats slow motion games. Tanks pretty much fire across the map, if you play brigades, you'll be micro managing some squads which makes sense that they won't play the game for you, especially to those that whine that tanks don't laser shoot everything that pops on the map. There's COH for those that want the units to be easier to move about. I mean, if I'm doing medium tanks brigade I'll start with a tank and like 6 inf, it ain't that hard to micromanage that at this point, whole point is to diversify the team's roles so you focus on one thing.

[@shr0udedone]

campaign clips, not even gonna bother

[@TheManofthecross]

i think you should just give up the game and more. its not worth your time.

[@zombetzee]

I just played men of war as2 again because men of war 2 sucks

[@pato9938]

you hate everythings right ? this game feel good to me, so upset to see you critics every stuff. the game just released, they gonna bring update to fix most of the stuff

[@TheRingoism]

Why Is this game good?

[@francescodanesi4880]

Downgrade of the men of war assault squad2.

[@NathanAdams-v4c]

and honestly most of these problems in mw2 can easily be patched out just have some more patience Jesus Christ how hard is that guy's

[@C0NSTANTINUS]

These problems should’ve been fixed on release. We know your a bot account

[@kloon9699]

​@@C0NSTANTINUSGates of Hell was a broken mess on release, but that's conveniently forgotten when people talk about this game. It doesn't mean this game is good, but perhaps it will be in a few years.

[@Underground3]

@@kloon9699 Then they should've learn from Gate of hell to not release a broken mess at launch. This ain't rocket science.

[@Sol4rFl4r3]

@@Underground3 it ain't a broken mess though, stop basing the game based on youtube videos. I've played it, mostly multiplayer and i don't see those "bugs" you talk about, so don't talk out of your backside stuff you aren't familair with.

[@stranger299a]

@@Sol4rFl4r3 Just because you don't see the bugs dosen't they are not there for everyone else

[@johnelliott7850]

Well, you give lots of negative views there. As another player of these games, going back to 'Soldiers: Heroes Of World War II' (and who enjoys this game), I find a lot of it to be unfair. An example would be your ranting over the quality of the AI. I agree that it's kinda shit. But everything must be taken in context, or else it means very little. The AI in ALL these games is shit, including Assault Squad 2, and Gates Of Hell: Ostfront - or didn't you notice? Last time I played GOH, it had me laughing out loud at the dumb AI.

[@stormy1055]

Barbed wire studios are updating the ai to be better in the next update, making them a bit less stupid

[@johan13135]

No, the AI in this game is severely more retarded and broken than any other game. It's an achievement in fact

[@zakb7418]

Men of war 2 are trash with online all the time, even play campaign single player unable to login server or when in middle playing campaign suddenly error connection, just not recomend at all dont buy this game

[@Sea-raider]

Interesting

[@lykewyse1368]

GOH is better

[@adrianrivaldo8679]

Lot of fanboys here

[@JD-dm1uj]

Absolute BS take, I own every single game going back to the very first using the GEMS engine. Men of War II is damn good and much better than most of these assholes portray. I own GOH and the entire CTA franchise, sans mods, I’ll take MOWII. There are a lot of haters out there.

[@TheRingoism]

Why? Can you explain to me why Men of War 2 Is the best In the series

[@JD-dm1uj]

@@TheRingoism Why can’t you tell us why it isn’t?

[@TheRingoism]

@@JD-dm1uj Gameplay Is arcadey and animations are stiff as fuck, tanks zoom around like they're from world of tanks and all blow up completely once they're put out of action like some mobile game, the sound effects and graphics have pushed the series back by 10 years. Why would anyone prefer this over Gates of Hell.

[@JD-dm1uj]

@@TheRingoism There’s no doubt many of the aspects from GOH are superior, zero, it’s just the GUI is microscopic, the ways to play against the AI is very limited and the structure, camouflaging, micro is better to me in MOW2. Though play both routinely.

[@TheRingoism]

@@JD-dm1uj That's fine so you prefer a more streamlined experience, or how most would put It arcadey, It's just odd to me for a major game In the franchise to completely change Itself and not for better, barely anyone actually likes this game so I just have to ask, who the hell this game Is actually for.

[@searaider3340]

Same shitty game but made worse

[@ZYaboimartin8]

Men of war is not even bad

[@greengoo4575]

garbage..... such a shame.......

[@portman8909]

AS2 is just a copy of AS1. Nothing special about it. Gates of Hell Osfront and even this game are better.

[@devildogu1284]

This company has been doing cash grabs for far too long call to arms was a cash grab so was gates of hell and its left with glaring bugs and "updated" but we only see DLC after DLC for even playing as the USA and probably britain in the near future. I hope this company realises its mistakes and actualy decides to stop scamming its people on Company of Heros 3 levels

[@pascalbourelier3463]

Except that CoH3 is an actual great game and the devs pushed through massively xD CoH3 devs are all fans & old CoH1 OG players, so no wonder they put their heart into it despite the early release date & subsequent issues that were slam dunked on what is/cld have been the greatest CoH

[@piratenkapitan7533]

Mow 2 was developed by a different developer than call to arms. Mow 2 and all the games before Mow 1 where developed by Best way. Mow 1 was developed by Best way and digital mindsoft. Mowas, Mowas 2 and call to arms where developed by digital mindsoft. Gates of hell was developed by barbedwire which partly consists out of old Mowas 2 moders like Robz.

[@stephenb1367]

Yeh you have no idea what your talking about 😂

[@devildogu1284]

@@stephenb1367 then good luck finding out

[@stephenb1367]

@@devildogu1284 what you on about lol the boy above told you

[@WarMonkeyOG]

I hope they fix all this crap

[@calumlittle9828]

What are you gonna shill instead?

[@eygs493]

agreed