Responding To Ellen Fisher (it gets worse)

My response to the Ellen's comment on my video "Ellen Fisher Teaches You How To Endanger Your Children".
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[@kristin4639]

sometimes i just watch vegan videos for the drama

[@ricebeansrockroll882]

Omg give me a vegan-tea channel

[@allyg8459]

Same!!!!

[@alifelesstoxic1253]

Me too!!!

[@taylorcupcakexo]

Kristin me as fuck I have no desire to be vegan but watch a lot of these videos still??? maybe that’s why hahaha

[@lucaspersonal5958]

Well.... I do it all the time.

[@Emmuzka]

"You don't have to vaccinate all children - Only those who you want to keep."

[@rhondacannon1310]

Omg so yes. Funny way to prove the point.

[@missmoxie9188]

Oh jeez

[@danamaximilian3998]

Actually is viceversa. Sadly.

[@camimistowls7834]

Dana Maximilian vaccines aren’t optional if you want your kids, that’s just a fact

[@danamaximilian3998]

@@camimistowls7834 I am sorry, you are still brainwashed. My child is vaccinated, I wish I wouldn t. Don t try to start any debate here, just wanted to tell you the trurh and I know it wil be shocking when you will have to accept it. There is NO FACT. There are just lies, targeting innocent people. This is not the place to talk seriously about the vaccines BUT, SADLY, you all will find out the vaccination as the biggest scam in history. The awakening (not spiritual but scientific) can't be stopped. It is just a matter of time. :( That will be the blackest, darkest day for humanity. God bless and protect us all.

[@kayleeanderson480]

You should be a debate coach. You cite your sources, stay calm, refute with logic, and hit each and every point! The high school debate captain in me is very proud.

[@literallyimtrash7975]

She's too nice to be any debate coach I know

[@catofthenight8306]

Also not afraid to admit when she's wrong

[@annnee6818]

Not to forget admit and apologise for effing up which we all do.

[@whybrch]

high school debate captain 😂 so so cool. I wish I've had that in my high school education. I'm afraid it's very uncommon here in Germany

[@svgarpaws]

W Hy Yeah, sadly not really a thing here. I would've loved that too lol, Debattierclubs in alle Gymnasien/Realschulen jetzt! 😂

[@BeFantasy]

Ellen's kids look healthy and happy but so did I when I was a kid, eating fast food and candies, meat and dairy. My health problems started only when I was 16yo. Most of the kids will be looking healthy on any diet but the problems may start later. That's why deciding if the diet is good or not based just on how our kids feel right now is not enough I'm afraid.

[@BaibaVulgaris]

Exactly, fishers aren't looking into future, they live in current day

[@sorinarobu8117]

Hmm I wonder if you got sick bc you spent years eating fast food and candies, meat and dairy🤔

[@xg2513]

My health problems started at that age too. I was “healthy” although a chubby kid. and then when i was about 15 boom the health problems from a childhood of hot dogs and dairy slammed me in the face

[@KittyCat-lq1vg]

@@sorinarobu8117 exactly what I was going to day Ellen kids will be healthy being brought up vegan.. Eating dairy, meat, candy and fast food is just a road for health problem disaster...

[@LordofFullmetal]

This. I was fine eating total trash and not exercising at all until I hit my late teens. I looked totally healthy; healthy weight, everything. Just because your child looks fine NOW that doesn't mean you're setting them up for a healthy life. Kids are incredibly robust. Their bodies can take a LOT of punishment.

[@swnist]

I always remember the time when Kristina got bitten by a dog in Bali and the first thing she did was go and get a rabies vaccination. These entitled, privileged people eschew modern medicine until god forbid they actually need it.

[@Shay45]

FullyRawKristina?? She is anti-vaccination??

[@emiliana1767]

Yeah but i vividly remember how she almost broke her back taking that vaccine. She had to be convinced big time, she cried a lot, she refused. She explained in long detail what a deep inner battle that was for her. Oh and dont forget the excessive detox she had to do after the vaccination. Smh...

[@lawlietthetoast_1856]

@@Shay45 Yes she is and are you even surprised? ( facebook.com/FullyRawKristina/photos/so-many-traditional-medications-and-vaccines-are-praised-when-in-reality-they-ar/494781323946832/

[@kv7310]

That really bothered me. Without the vaccine she would have died. The vaccine didnt poison her it saved her.

[@katelyngrabowski1205]

swnist she tried to put off getting it for 3 days what I remember. In that moment she made decision to save her life. A live example to analyze ones own ethics.

[@sethryanchin]

“And I’m sure flat earthers” YALL I LEGIT SCREAMED

[@snabbochslarvig]

i think it would be interesting if you talked about “youtube vegans” obsession with showing their bodies. i’ve had anorexia and i can tell a lot of them often post pictures or thumbnails showing how thin or fit they are. it’s a typical eating disorder habit that i fin problematic.

[@Gr95dc]

I think a lot of people with eating disorders have find an excuse for unhealthy habits on veganism. They shifted a bad diet in general to a bad vegan diet.

[@gabbyslife4965]

I've noticed that and that's why veganism is being used as a diet than a lifestyle. People obsess with eating vegan healthy because of the image most vegans youtubers are selling.

[@lann1921]

It's one of the main reason why i can't follow most vegans, it's so triggering for me

[@ionataberham5983]

@@lann1921 saaaame!

[@lynnbauer5192]

Yes! They always have to show these full body shots, it’s like they are saying ‘look how thin I am!’

[@rosie6133]

Theres actually this thing called 'the umbrella effect,' if more than around 95% of the population is vaccinated the remaining 5% is still at low risk for contracting the disease. So yes, in fact the kids from those antivax parents aren't really in danger UNTIL THE PERCENTAGE DROPS BELOW 95% However, I strongly believe that that 5% should be reserved for those who cant be vaccinated due to medical reasons

[@miacooley4661]

You mean the population of interacting individuals which are why hot spots are a thing

[@Theelderscrolls52]

My mother can’t get the flu vaccine and a couple of others due to health problems. Her doctor has even stated that getting the flu shot could kill her due to her immune system overreacting. So what does my family and close friends do to protect her? Get vaccines. I also hate the ‘autism’ argument. I have autism. And guess what? I would rather ‘be like this’ than be in an iron lung.

[@KatLovin]

I’m shocked by how many vegans are anti-vaccine and how many people are upset with you for responding to Ellen through a video. Thanks for yet another amazing informational video. Your sanity is refreshing.

[@yanayeye]

K.Nizzles That’s because Vaccines aren’t vegan!!!

[@DarkShadowHawk720]

I think it is important for vegans to decide if they are vegan or just plant based. You can’t be considered a vegan if you use products that were made from or tested on animals, animal cruelty is the biggest argument vegans have against omnivores and crucify them for it yet somehow vegans wanna take vaccines? Hypocrisy? Don’t say you’re for the animals if you’re going to suddenly make something exceptional. I hold vegans to high expectations considering how much badmouthing alot of them do. Just like how they wish omnivores would stop criticizing the way they eat, then I’d wish vegans would not criticize ppl for living their own lives.

[@KatLovin]

DarkShadowHawk720 the problem with vaccines is that it’s not just about your own life. I’m all for people doing what they want so long as it doesn’t cause harm. Not vaccinating your child causes harm to the general population. And if your child is one of the few who cannot be vaccinated because of a health issue, then you better hope that other people are vaccinating their kids so your kid doesn’t get sick. It’s crazy to me that we had come so close to eliminating a lot of major deadly diseases only to have them resurface because people have been led astray by faulty information.

[@yanayeye]

Plz don’t take this the wrong way but Honestly since when have you truthfully cared about someone else other then yourself, I mean by the looks of it you really don’t care about yourself, if you did you would care enough to do just a moment of research, like literally 5 minutes of research would at least help you to realize that everything you just said is just plain not true, I suggest you start thinking for yourself instead of blindly fallowing a billion dollar industry that has zero interest in your well being.

[@KatLovin]

PlantPoweredMama By the looks of it I don’t care about myself? Just like your vaccination claims you have absolutely no evidence of that. Also, of course I care about other people. What kind of psychopath doesn’t show regard for other lives? I do believe it’s selfish to not vaccinate yourself and your children if you have no medical reasons not to do so. In terms of research, I have done my research. I just tend to trust sources like the World Health Organization, my physician, the Centre for Disease Control and peer reviewed medical journal articles over mommy blogs and books about vaccines written by chiropractors. Another fun form of research is to go to a cemetery and see how many more baby tombstones there were prior to the 1950s and look up the statistics about just how many people died of measles and polio before vaccines. If you do have evidence that supports that herd immunity is a fallacy, I’m open to looking at it but to suggest that I don’t think for myself because I don’t agree with you is quite egocentric of you.

[@jennybenners3683]

The nerve of her to say she’s “confident and educated” on being anti-vax. That is incredibly upsetting.

[@anna_m59]

Jenny Benners Ellen has a high school educated as majority of KZbinrs in the vegan community.

[@opicikostra3446]

@@anna_m59 What I think Jenny means here is that Ellen can hardly be "confidently educated" when pretty much all of scientifically supported research debunks Ellens claims.

[@jennybenners3683]

Opici Kostra yes, thank you! 😁

[@lianunya2975]

Especially the educated part.

[@phil6748]

Jenny Benners antivaxxers always claim that. It’s nothing new

[@BreaMichelle3]

I’ll never forget I ran into Ellen’s husband and 2 boys one day in hawaii at a natural food store. I said hi to them and the older boy said “look at my new toy! I bought it from Target!” And I thought it was so funny because I had literally just watched Ellen’s Christmas shopping guide video that preached about how bad it is to do Xmas shopping at corporations and to only support small shops. I just wish she would be a little more real and open, she try’s to portray this perfect image and it’s weird that she got so defensive over the video.

[@cherryblossom1460]

I'm surprised the kid is aloud to shop from Target, I mean you'd think they would let him have "Vegan" only toys. xD

[@stellasenzacielo1824]

Really? Ahahaha how fake ppl are

[@mcyrenne14]

Not to mention she promotes stuff from Amazon... Like "yah don't hurt the animals but I promote a company that shits on their employee and pollute the world by promoting massive online shopping"

[@geraldfriend256]

Vegan U Tube Influencer a CHARLATAN? O the humanity...

[@BreaMichelle3]

@@strongroots2345 bash them? Where did I bash them. I stated complete facts. If me relaying facts I’d triggering to you, that’s on you.

[@dowelldinewellauc8586]

One of my best friends is a virologist and she vaccinated her 3 children and she can’t stand the anti-vaxers. For me the fact that someone who has studied viruses for more than 10 years vaccinated her children was good enough reason to also vaccinate my 3 children.

[@india239]

Do well Dine well Auc my son was part of the MMR pilot study in Scotland in 1987. I couldn’t get him signed up quickly enough

[@TheSnowReport28]

Do well Dine well Auc my husband is a chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear defense specialist in the military. He’s been studying viruses for over 9 years. We vaccinate. 👍🏼

[@MissCaraMint]

I studied biology for school (got the highest grade on the exam, very proud) and came to the conclusion that boy do we know how the body works pretty darn well. Vaccination is a compleatly logical follow up to the knowlege presented. Anti-vax is not.

[@danamaximilian3998]

@Do well Dine well Auc so, you vaccinate your three children because a friend is studying something that NOBODY EVER demonstrated that exist : ''VIRUSES''?? ok. NOBODY EVER found a ''virus'' isolated from the tissue or blood. EVER. They are studying green horses on the wall. Soon enough, all the people in the world will find out about this scam ( the biggest tragedy in history).

[@anthonydude]

@@danamaximilian3998 you cray cray

[@madisona5]

She is an influencer. She needs to take responsibility for the power of her influence.

[@rebeccariedel5070]

I agree on the fact that Ellen Fisher has become an influencer - due to the number of her subscribers on KZbin as well as the total number of followers on Instagram and other social media accounts. However, the audience must (finally) realize that her content is ALL ABOUT MAKING MONEY. It's a business. Nobody knows about her real beliefs, values etc. Her persona might not even be real - but how do we know? We can only judge her "persona" by the content and the posts she is creating. In my opinion it is obvious that KZbinrs - in general - rely on brand integration and product placement. They simply create a story (in this case with the topics of *family life,*veganism , *outschooling, *homebirth etc.) in order to make money. For sure they might be intrinsic-driven about certain topics; otherwise they would probably not spend as many hours a day in front of their camera, but it's only purpose is to get as many subscribers as possible - for the financial reason. Ellen Fisher's marketing strategy is simple - but very effective! It is really dangerous to follow or even to copy KZbinr's advices / life styles one by one. Especially if it's all fake! They all make profit out of it ($). I do not want to go into further details; but it is very obvious that all the promotion of B12 supplies, vitamin pills, supplements or nutrition tips are only mentioned that people will buy it. KZbinrs - like Ellen Fisher - do not necessarily care about your health or well-being; just as a consumer of her promoted products. So please tconsider to talk to your doctor or to any aproved medical specialists about health, nutrition plans and skin care - and do not listen to Ellen Fisher or any influencer primarily! Health related topics have to be taken seriously - Health decisions should always be evidence-based not opinion-based.

[@lilithrose6857]

Amen

[@Haley_Wozniak]

Dermatology PA here. Yes, you have to wear sunscreen daily and reapply every 2 hours when in the sun! On the nose and shoulders is NOT going to cut it. I have patients that are not even 25 yet with skin cancer. Skin damage starts from day one. Everyone that I have dealt with that has skin cancer never wore sunscreen in their life or only wore it at the beach in the summer. People are very nonchalant when it comes to skin health. It's your largest organ, people start taking care of it. Every hour a life is taken from melanoma. Melanoma is very serious and if you catch it late it's a horrible battle.

[@SuiGenerisAbbie]

I agree. with this post. Skin damage starts immediately when you go out into any sunshine, with your skin in ANY way un-protected from its highly damaging rays. I know. I've had melanoma TWICE and not only that, but, I got it on places that were not even exposed to the sun;s rays!

[@hiicam]

Makes me so happy to see medical professionals that watch Swayze’s videos. I was just accepted to PA school myself and am hoping to work in derm. 💪

[@SuiGenerisAbbie]

@@hiicam Is Swayze this young woman's first or her last name? And, how do you know of it? Not too obvious from her Channel Moniker, I have to say.

[@dijek5511]

We need the audience volume turned up a little bit. It's her first name

[@rebeccat1828]

I’m trying to get into med or do school for derm. I’m glad there are more educated and specialists here. Strange that they’re not really on KZbin as KZbinrs who garner a large “following” to combat those who haven’t spent their lives studying the topic

[@sherrylu2561]

Imagine thinking a chiropractor is more knowledgeable about vaccinations than scientists who literally research vaccinations for a living. Can’t relate

[@christinacornolo]

the nerve of her for having the opportunity to vaccinate her children. While, somewhere out there, there is a mother who would kill to have her children vaccinated and safe

[@Aceofwolves]

Yes!!!!! In many countries some people need to walk 30, 40,50 MILES to get a vaccine and sometimes the vaccine runs out before they get there or they die on the way there.

[@pinkfreak0105]

Thank you for addressing this. I unfollowed Ellen after I learned about her vaccination stance. I think I'm just about burned out on skinny blonde tropical vegan influencers 🙄

[@ash-vj5vn]

once i found out she was antivax, i unfollowed as well. it really sucks because ellen has a very positive vibe on her channel, and watching her videos brought me a lot of joy. however, i can't put money into her pocket if she's endangering others by not vaccinating her children.

[@gabbyslife4965]

I checked her channel and I didn't know I was subscribed to her channel. I just unsubscribed. I dont support that at all.

[@missydehart6920]

Omg I love your comment 😂😂

[@mollygrace3068]

Thank you for saying what I’ve been feeling. All these white vegans showing off their fruit and beach lives in areas where the natives are often struggling. It kills me that there are homeless native Hawaiians while Ellen Fisher makes money showing off her paradise life. But that’s another topic.

[@liliansophie7826]

@@mollygrace3068 lol, this is happing ALL AROUND THE WORLD my dear and has nothing to do with Ellen or the area. Welcome to our planet earth!

[@beethovenjunkie]

Keeping a baby in the shade is NOT enough to keep them from sun damage, especially in the tropics. I (strawberry blonde, sooooooo white) once spent 45 minutes on a beach in Venezuela, and stayed out of the sun for all of that time, and I still got sunburned. And I had a slight tan beforehand. WEAR SUNSCREEN, PEOPLE!!!

[@venus4100]

People need to chill and their emotions. She is speaking facts and giving constructive criticism... in no way is she bullying. Calm down people.

[@chiaragrondana1390]

She said she only shows what the children tell her to show, but they are children, they are too young to understand the complexity of putting your life out there in the internet. And as you said sometines the kids are actually too young to consent, we saw photos of them since the day they were born. And Elvis wanting to be filmed and telling her to redo and film only some parts worries me, it shows he already worries about what he's like, his online persona, and he's not living as carefree as a kid should. Since he was born his parents put his life out there, his videos weren't solely taken for the joy of having a way to remember when he was a kid in a private family setting, but with the intent of being published. And I think that's toxic

[@Fredrick130]

Thank you, you can't make a business out of promoting your lifestyle - featuring your children and then say it's good memories. Sorry but as soon as money come into it, you can no longer claim you're not profiting off your children and that it's for altruistic reasons. She was known as Mango Island Mama - obviously it was the draw card.

[@sarahgreen3663]

There are many realities to Ellen, her family and her KZbin channel.. and that is definitely one of them :/

[@sneakerlove5313]

Chiara Grondana I get it but school has the same effect

[@thekingslady1]

Parents that say:- "but the children want it!!" piss me off the most. Your children want candy all day too. Why don't you feed them candy all day??

[@whybrch]

exactly.

[@ambercantrell7495]

I actually watch all of Ellen’s videos and had no idea she supplements B12. I truly believed that she still did not supplement. She doesn’t really make it know like say Sarah lemkus.

[@lisadevries1099]

Love Sarah Lemkus😍

[@nini-jz1bt]

Love Sarah! She is pretty good rational vegan on Yt

[@jessicaamillian4522]

I am pretty sure she did a Q&A recently where she was specifically asked of she supplements and she just kinda smiled and shook her head 🤷‍♀️ I dunno maybe I am wrong

[@lisadevries1099]

@@jessicaamillian4522 really?? (I assume you're talking about Ellen) That's kinda weird. I don't get what issues some people see in taking supplements

[@jessicaamillian4522]

Yes I'm talking about Ellen Fisher, sorry if I didn't make that clear. I remember stopping what I was doing and listening for the answer because I was genuinely interested and it appeared she said no

[@chelseac4553]

Another point about doing your own research -- not everyone has the ability to do so. For example, I am a PhD student at a university so I have (a) access to journals and papers for pretty much anything I could imagine, and (b) I research for a living and know that it is 100% a skill to be able to do the type of in-depth (and usually confusing because of technical jargon) research required for many of these topics. I am super fortunate that I can take a video from youtube and go conduct my own research, but I would be willing to bet that 95% of people don't, even with the almighty google.

[@worshipcatalyst1]

lots of info at the library can also be outdated.

[@mate123bur]

Completely agreed. Even if you have access to the papers like I do (getting my masters) you need to know about the Tecnical terms for each topic you are studying because if not the paper can become extremely confusing. At least for me, if it’s outside of my field it is usually very challenging to understand and interpret correctly. Very important to learn to put our trust on the experts.

[@lauramorales3840]

Chelsea Carlson Same here, but that’s why people who don’t have that skill should defer to the experts. Not someone on KZbin with no credentials.

[@mn-kt6em]

Also, the more you know the more you realize you don't know. The more schooling you have, the more you realize things are way over simplified. Especially pertaining to science. There's a reason you go to school for an MD.

[@heartdragon2386]

Going into dietetics, and I have to take statistics classes and nutrition classes specifically in order to understand studies. And if I weren't enrolled, I would have to pay for most of the studies I reference. Some are pricey, and may or may not have the information you thought they did.

[@paulinacalcaterra3555]

Re: the previous title claiming that ellen endangers children: this is an entirely FAIR claim, and isn't an exaggeration at all. Let's not normalize her anti-vax stance just because she talks about compassionate parenting, is generally warm, and seems to care deeply about being kind and helpful, etc. You cannot be anti-vax and get away with the fact that your choice is literally harming other kids and your own by causing resurgences of entirely preventable deadly diseases, not to mention causing damage by stigmatizing autism. There is no excuse to ignore the insurmountable evidence debunking anti-vax claims, and the fact that she has normalized this is incredibly harmful and yes is literally threatening the lives of her children and others. We need to hold people accountable.

[@india239]

Paulina Calcaterra and the first person we should be holding accountable is that bastard Andrew Wakefield. He is no longer allowed to practice medicine in the UK. As a Brit I think he should have his citizenship stripped

[@MsDidi38]

yes, anti-vaxxers are constantly arguing that vaccines cause autism which has been debunked so many times and it is dangerous and ableist to keep promoting it, no matter how 'nice' they are

[@cutecheerfreak1]

🙌🏽 PREACH 🙌🏽

[@pierraraiola8001]

Funny how nobody fears all the deadly diseases we don't have vaccines for......

[@mariajoaoprimo7218]

@@pierraraiola8001 of course people are scared of those But dont you think we should prevent the diseases we do have vaccinnes for ?

[@kimberlydeltorchio7818]

I used to watch Ellen Fisher somewhat regularly, until I heard her status on vaccinations. Then I lost respect for her. The ironic thing is a measles outbreak killed a lot of native Hawaiians in the 19th century.

[@jollyrancher0531]

Hollllyyyyyy crap. Ellen’s channel has been one of my favorites for a while now and I have no idea how I didn’t even notice most of these things 🤦🏼‍♀️ definitely rethinking my viewing habits. Thanks for pointing all of this out Swayze!

[@faylynaddams7678]

My grandmother was eight years old when she watched her mother die of tetanus. There had been a vaccine for years and there was a treatment. She could have lived and been there to protect and raise my grandma. But instead, she passed on treatment, my grandmother watched her mother die one of the most horrifying deaths possible, and then my grandmother was shuffled from family member to family member afterward and was molested by two of her uncles, was physically abused by another family member, and ended up married and pregnant at 15 (to a 26 year old man). She wouldn’t let me draw on my skin, even with washable markers, and sometimes would freak out if I used makeup because she didn’t understand exactly how her mother died (she was told blood poisoning but the autopsy records say tetanus). Watching her mother die in such a horrible way traumatized her for life. Vaccinate your children. Vaccinate yourself. Get a tetanus shot. Be smart.

[@emiliana1767]

Oh my goodness, what a story. Bless your poor grandmother. I am so grateful for tetanus vaccinations!

[@momsagainstmedicalbullying6154]

Vaccines don't prevent disease learntherisk.org

[@shyanmarie4405]

@@momsagainstmedicalbullying6154 Yes they do. An antivax idiot like you didn't vaccinate for measels and now over 35,000 people in Europe are infected, something that was totally preventable by a vaccination. Quit arguing science.

[@kristinalong2492]

earthling I get vaccinated not to protect those that choose not to vaccinate themselves, but for the babies that are too young to be vaccinated and the sick and elderly whose immune system is too weak to be vaccinated. Heard immunity helps keep those whose bodies are too weak to live through an illness safe. That’s why it’s so important. Good on ya for being vaccinated!

[@emiliana1767]

@earthling no they put everybody at risk. A vaccination is not a 100% bulletproof immunity, it "only" increases your immunity greatly. There is nevertheless a small possibility to get infected, if a infected person is near you. Like in a classroom with kids, where 29 are vaccinated and 1 isnt, the one gets infected and is responsible for infecting 2 more kids unnecessarily. If it werent for vaccinations, almost all kids would be infected.

[@sarchstar]

Lol I WISH you had read even a page of the book she recommended. It’s so biased it’s mind blowing. He makes absolutely outrageous one sentence claims and then just moves on.. as if he’s proved his point. Just read the sneak peak on amazon. It’s enough

[@LordofFullmetal]

Imagine the arrogance it takes to just assume that every single person who watches ONE of her videos watches ALL of her videos. That's clearly the assumption she's making, because ALL her arguments are "oh but I'm not harming anyone because I say X in Y video". That's not how KZbin works.

[@olabiskup183]

yeah, so like, Poland is having a measles outbreak right now. and guess what, all those sick children haven't been vaccinated! who would have thought.

[@soniamone6765]

I'm not anti-vaxination, but your comment seems to mislead people. I've done my research and 95% Polish population is vaccinated to measles, so how is this outbreak possible? Moreover, according to EU statistics, Poland is the country that takes about 20% of all the immigrants coming to Europe and Poland's 5% of population is now made out of immigrants, which is the highest in the whole EU (in 2017). I assume that the health of migrants is not checked (since Polish government responded to this "outbreak" with changing the migration laws to vaccinate the people coming to Poland), so the outbreaks of some diseases can happen, same happened in Germany (which takes actually less immigrants than Poland). By the way, 100 people getting sick is not really an outbreak. (To make it clear, I have nothing against migrants, but it is not responsible to take millions of immigrants without giving them any medical check-up in advance, especially when many of them are from some exotic countries. In America we need to vaccinate before we go into tropics). So comparing this situation to the situation in US where many hundreds of thousands people refuse to vaccinate their kids is to say the least misleading. Vaccination in Poland is obligatory, in USA on the other hand, many people don't face any legal consequences from not vaccinating their kids. We are lucky that there are no outbreaks of any diseases yet in America. But sadly it may come if people mind only their own business...

[@olabiskup183]

@@soniamone6765 oof I did not expect such a long response. Maybe 'outbreak' isn't the word and if that was misleading on my part then I'm sorry, just saying there is a case of kids contracting measles in our country and it is outrageous BECAUSE the vaccinations are obligatory. The authorities are looking into this and yes, it was probably brought from outside somehow, because how the heck else would it be there. Anti-vax movements is not an issue exclusive for America, Poland has had cases of parents running away from hospitals with their newborn children putting them in potential danger because they didn't want them vaccinated and there recently was a lot of public debate about making the vaccinations non-obligatory and even formal suggestions of changing the law (fortunately the government didn't go through with it). I didn't plan on comparing anything to the US, for me it is simply a deeply saddening example of a preventable disease being places it absolutely shouldn't.

[@soniamone6765]

@@olabiskup183 it's alright, it felt like comparing, because the video talks about dangers of the lack of vaccination and you mentioned a country where it is obligatory to vaccinate, so it was just like completely different situation in my oppinion. I just wanted to point it out in my previous comment. America has so many kids that hasn't been vaccinated and many think it's alright and their freedom! Anyway, so saddening indeed to read that crazy peoole exist literally everywhere in this world. I'm quite shocked that there are even such parents who would run away from hospital with their kids just to skip a basic medical procedure. But yeah, people don't appreciate anymore how much modern medicine improved the quality and length of our life. Hope Poland prevents those diseases from spreading and does not follow suicidal path that America does! Peace!

[@olabiskup183]

@@raynaquigs7879 How is this blaming? I have simply stated the fact that these kids haven't been vaccinated. From what I know cases like your daughter do happen sometimes, but usually they are very mild (like, not deadly) . All I can do is wish her a quick and easy recovery so best wishes to your daughter.

[@Moonessence1]

Ppl and their fear of measles 😂😂😂 please educate yourselves

[@keinwortphrase]

Ellen's views on vaccines are a good example of mixing up correlation and causality. Anti-vaccination people make me cringe.

[@shyanmarie4405]

@FearlessAstridHofferson My brother (whom I never speak to anymore) was anti-vax for the fact he thought it costs him too much money when that money could go towards fixing his cars for drag racing events. Some anti-vax people are just selfish in all honesty.

[@angeliparraguirre7329]

Ellen Fisher has left the chat

[@cocobrielle9605]

@@shyanmarie4405 vaccines aren't free in the United States?

[@tkps]

@Ashley S You keep saying that Ashley but who do you think makes up the general population? That sounds a bit like what us Australians call 'not in my backyard'. In other words 'you all do it so I don't have to'. A tad selfish don't you think?

[@mspeck2944]

Ashley S uh.. is your family not a part of the general population?😂

[@Medalea]

The comments under her latest video are just nasty. Somebody saying that women like Swayze should not reproduce because she's manly (?!) and Ellen is feminine. Unsubscribed because she's acting like a victim instead of thinking twice and I just can't support someone who does not vaccinate her kids.

[@ilgnyldz9927]

I unsubscribed after watching her last video in which she practically avoids criticism by "rising above" it. I mean come on... I don't really think she has a real answer to give to UV.

[@cherryblossom1460]

Ellen shouldn't be aloud to reproduce, that's who shouldn't reproduce.

[@woodlandasmr4471]

She also recently came out as pro-forced birth (some call it pro-life), so that's pretty wild too!

[@whybrch]

can you give me a link for that? I'm very interested in that.

[@christina7454]

@@whybrch It's in an Instagram post. Unnatural Vegan made a video about it a few months ago

[@amandavalenqweffgsbfxfbdvg800]

Omg! She doesn’t agree with killing babies! That’s insane 🙄

[@maddiejoy7896]

"Trying to discredit the book I recommended just because the author doesn't hold the credentials necessary to accurately speak on the topic of the book doesn't hold up." Okay then.

[@india239]

A Sparkling Home wtf???

[@Rafael057]

I think that your explanation and apology is sufficient. Many vegans are so thin skinned, I watch your channel because you’re honest about misstatements, you correct them, promote education and you’re so darn normal!

[@actinggirl333]

Rafael Gelpi a lot of vegans dish it but can never take it. Bashing people but then getting butthurt when people call them out

[@julianunyabiz2193]

Yeah I showed this channel to my vegan friends and they loved it. There's a lot of not so great vegan channels out there. This one an cheap lazy vegan are great though.

[@faylynaddams7678]

Julia Nunyabiz Cheap lazy vegan is fucking goddess. I worship her at the altar of cheap and easy vegan meals.

[@EMunaBee]

@ellenfisher instagram.com/p/Bp2SvozgnX3/?

[@cinnamon709]

@@kaship98 it is when it comes to veganism.

[@GBfanatic15]

to not vaccinate your child as long as you are able to is ultimately selfish. you are putting at risk not only your child but also everyone that comes into contact with your child. if you really cared about people you would vaccinate them.

[@Reeniepie]

I can see that a lot of Ellen’s followers did not watch the whole video.

[@lilJess0831]

I know this is a serious topic and all, but that "This is terrible advice, Ellen." has the same energy as "I'm getting tired of your shit, Karen." and now I can't stop laughing.

[@Stevie-oy8zj]

Jess 😂😂🙏🏻

[@BlackPhoenix00280]

Thank you for one good comment amidst the bullshit of "omg ur such a hater" comments

[@starstuff100]

Jess FakeVegan’s junk food diet is also “terrible” so hopefully someone makes a vid on that soon. Glad you’re amused by a devoted mother being attacked btw. You must be scary to know in real life. Creepy.

[@BlackPhoenix00280]

As you also attack a devoted mother who is just talking about things that are damn well worth talking about. Creepy.

[@starstuff100]

BlackPhoenix00280 I don’t revel in suffering the way you do - getting angry in response to seeing a person, especially such a kind person who’s been attacked as a mother in front of the entire planet, is a normal response called empathy. Based on your glee at someone being hurt, it’s clear you lack it.

[@biancacanas8091]

If I didn’t vaccinate I’d have yellow fever. Also how do you travel without vaccination? It’s required! They won’t let you travel without being vaccinated!

[@faylynaddams7678]

People either don’t travel or they get religious exemptions.

[@biancacanas8091]

Faylyn Addams wow! That is shocking to me

[@reneebrown3105]

Only to a few places... You don’t have to be vaccinated just to go on a plane

[@RM-ty2qy]

If you are from the majority of places in Europe / western countries you don't need to be vaccinated to travel within these places. But if from developing countries/ travelling to them im pretty sure you have to be vaccinated.

[@nimgr8]

bianca canas no it’s not, gone on 4 cruise and never been asked about vaccines.

[@melonchunck]

Ellen's anti-vax "arguments" made me cringe! Thank you for putting out good info against this horrible misinformation that hurts children

[@zzzzzbbbbbb7203]

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[@cherryfairyy]

Theres a decent amount of people who use drugs every day during pregnancy & have had healthy babies , but that does not mean drugs dont damage fetuses - it means they were lucky...

[@mn-kt6em]

PLEASE do one on raw alignment. I've never seen a diet so lacking

[@user-st2cw1ly7e]

morbid morgue clark she also didnt eat for 3 days to heal a uti and advised her audience to try it. a lot of her audience are young girls still developing, and she encouraged not eating for 3 days to heal a uti...a condition that can progress to something serious if not treat

[@malloryfisher6677]

I believe she has done a video on her “mold illness” and incorporates issues with her diet

[@mn-kt6em]

@@user-st2cw1ly7e yessss. The whole not eating for 3 days to heal a uti. She probably didn't have a UTI then. If you have sex you can bruise that area and it feels like a UTI, same urgency and pain but goes away once the bruising heals.

[@victoriawright8346]

And she’s teaching her audience not to use birth control. Her birth control is tracking her ovulation and not having sex on those days. That’s not good birth control for women especially young girls who are watching her.

[@mimsical9174]

Victoria Wright The fertility awareness is as effective as the pill (when used correctly). Anyone with a brain can use it.

[@lasagnacreamcone]

Wow burned... Well maybe she'll consider sunscreen now

[@mistyfying7729]

I laughed :D

[@jessa.4529]

Ellen: I'm totally okay with what I do and others' opinions of it. Also Ellen: here is a paragraph about how my actions are TOTALLY RIGHT that took me 3 hrs to write and proof read.

[@anastasiastar2924]

I thought something was wrong with me!🙄 Every time I watch what her children eat in a day, I feel that they are starving! My 1,5 year old vegan baby eats more food than her 3year old🤦‍♀️ Some coconut meat+a smoothie; a salad for lunch and potatoes for dinner for a growing little boy?! Like really?!

[@KD-ou2np]

@@violet-tp2yh she's criticizing the amount of food not the vegan diet

[@calmnesschaos4290]

Smoothie always have hemp+chia+spirulina. The coconut meat is typically used for CURRY DISHES. What video was this? I want to actually see how the title is justified. I do think she could grow but is she harming every child on Earth? The title is ridiculous. TIA

[@rocsiali4092]

@@KD-ou2np @holograph1c c is copying and pasting that same comment to random comments here

[@rocsiali4092]

@@violet-tp2yh read comments before you copy and paste what you say to random ones.

[@silenceisbetterthannonsense]

Lucy The Lightmaker She doesn’t believe in vaccinating her children and that’s enough to show that she is harming her children’s safety and other children’s safety. Also, that is not enough food that her growing child should be eating

[@b00mm60]

I fricking love Ellen and her family, but you're absolutely right. I struggle to meet my daily requirements and I do eat lots of beans, oatmeal, vegetables, bread, pasta, so it baffles me that she thinks a smoothie, a salad and potatoes is enough. I'm sure she feels good/light/healthy but it will definitely bring consequences down the road, I truly hope she understands before it's too late. PD. Ellen if you read this, try not to get angry at swayze, her intentions are not to hurt you in any way, she's trying to help. Much love to both of you!

[@jennessyo]

Marie Martinez ugh I feel the same! I love both channels for different reasons but Swayze is right here.

[@fuckthisshit8895]

Well I can tell you that you can easily get all of your nutrients in a smoothie, salad, and potatoes. And the thing about Ellen is she doesn’t show everything they eat or in that great of detail. Besides eat what YOU want.

[@b00mm60]

​@@fuckthisshit8895 LMAO, K.

[@TheCerealluvr]

Marie Martinez just out of interest, why do you love the Fishers/Ellen?

[@b00mm60]

​@@TheCerealluvr i like her views and lifestyle in general (veganism, gentle parenting, being low waste, growing food, living near the beach) she pretty much lives my dream life, except for the anti-vaccination stuff and poor nutrition. Also, she seems kind, and her family is heartwarming/uplifting to watch, especially when you're hoping to have kids soon (I am very much so lol).

[@captainmorgan514]

I watch Ellen and thought that her representation was an accurate vegan diet, so I appreciated this video. Other commenters are spot on that she presents a picturesque lifestyle and health ideas, but her comment states that she “doesn’t promote anything” even though she does. I greatly appreciate you making this content for us, because I am looking into incorporating more vegan meals and need to know what is healthiest.

[@captainmorgan514]

@Mackenzie VanGossen I've somewhat noticed that. I just watch as an escape and motivation to be more vegan, not really as gospel (but I used to).

[@brookielove44]

captainmorgan514 I really agree! This video has got me thinking. I love Ellen and she seems nice but now I wonder about that kind of diet.

[@shannonpyattart]

Wow, I didn't know she was anti-vax. I have enjoyed her videos a lot in the past. Once someone says they are anti-vax a switch goes off in my head, same as when someone says they are a flat-earther. It's so ridiculous, now what they have to say about anything holds no merit IMO.

[@qualifiedarmchaircritic]

I am so annoyed at the "SOMEONE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT THIS" logic Ellen Fisher uses with her anti-vacc bs. Many people have written lots of (shitty?) books about tons of shitty stuff, yet we don't completely change our lives according to the book we read just because someone wrote about it. When Werther was published, hundreds of men committed suicide because they felt like Goethe's depiction of being hopelessly/crazily in love was so accurate. Still, we as a society agree that that is generally not a good idea. How do they not understand the concept of peer-review?

[@hearmymotoredheart]

I really respect that you cull your content and are honest with yourself and your audience about the quality of the information you want to convey. I'm not even vegan but it's the integrity of your content that keeps me coming back - I can count on you to be a reliable source if I have any questions.

[@cutecheerfreak1]

hearmymotoredheart same, I cant lie I thought of a lot of vegan people (people who identify as vegan and not plant based), but honestly she has enabled me to respect the lifestyle and viewpoints of veganism

[@Jay-vz7og]

I think you should study and become a nutritionist (RD). Is it still possible for you? Would you like to do it? You have a lot of life experience dealing with crazy diets and you can empathize with people. You do know a lot about nutrition already. It'll be great if you did become an RD.

[@UnnaturalVegan]

If I could go back, I probably would. Maybe one day!

[@adela3153]

Jay we should set up a go fund me for her to do it

[@annak3325]

@@adela3153 is there a reason why she cant? the only reason i think is because shes pregnant raising kids. idk if i am missing something she mentioned before

[@yourriverbaby]

@@UnnaturalVegan Dooooo it.

[@Schifa09]

You should do it!!:)

[@sofiasanz2066]

As a Bio Science major this type of cases come up often in my bio ethics class. And is kinda frustrating cuz people like me and more like my professor who spend hours, days, weeks, months or even years doing research to understand how our bodies and other systems work are suddenly invalidated. People think that by reading some research they already know. When in fact not even scientist know everything. If I specialize in bio genetics , I will lack knowledge in bio cellular and that's why we work together, so we can contribute to our knowledge, therefore believe me, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING. I came to the realization that some topics are so complicated for some people that they just choose to ignore it and believe the easiest explanation. Cuz our system is complicated and they just can't grasp many processes.

[@kyleyakich3800]

And when you actually finish your degree & do something other than think you know it all, you might just learn a thing or two.

[@frozenyogurth]

This is a thing a lot of people need to understand. EVERYTHING is complicated, from politics, to social dynamics, to biology to chemistry to psychology. Simple isn't really a thing the universe does.

[@brittniep9219]

K-12 education is trash and our society encourages idiocy. Most anti-Vaccination people fall into one of three categories: people who are just simply ignorant and typically not very intelligent, hippies that are ignorant and people that make money off selling lies.

[@PhantomStella]

"Eating adequate calories from whole plant foods...provides the correct amount of protein..." Calories don't equal protein, right??? I'm confused....

[@liannebiggar1557]

Your body can break down the non-protein foods you eat into their various amino acid building blocks and “create” protein out of that. That’s the basis of this argument. However, as was mentioned a couple of times in this video, we have pretty low adsorption of nutrients from most plant based foods - meaning that even if the food you eat technically has all the nutrition your body needs, your body might not actually be absorbing/digesting/using it.

[@GS-xj4st]

Essential amino acid cannot be produced by the body (non-essential amino acid can be made from other stuff) and while a random equilibriate vegan diet will provide enough essentials amino acid, a restrictive diet like high carb low fat with no beans legumes and nuts will hardly make it.

[@frozenyogurth]

calroriens is a way to describe how much energy will be created by burning something. That's why fat or alcohol is high in calories, burning these things will result in a highly exothermic reaction. While some of the plant atoms can be broken down and built into new amino acids there are some amino acids that can't be produced by the body called essential amino acids. These need to be consumed just like essential fatty acids.

[@carlysmithdd]

I wonder if her and her children get skin checks regularly. I live in the Australian Wet Tropics which I imagine has similar weather and UV Levels to Hawaii and even at 7am in the summer you can feel the sun burning you. We get our skin checked at least once a year. My partner is a very pale ginger and goes twice a year, and every check he gets at least one mole removed. This is someone who wear spf 50 daily PLUS UV safe clothing if we are outside for extended periods of time(hiking, beach, kayaking etc). It’s concerning that her kids are not wearing rash guards at the beach even in the early hours especially as she isn’t using sunscreen properly.

[@francescagalan4303]

carly smith Yes it’s super scary. I understand the harmful effects of sunscreen on the environment, but she could so easily buy the best brand for her family. Skin protection should not be taken lightly and I worry for her children, such fragile skin with virtually no protection.

[@lovedove2661]

I've been to Australia many times. I will be the first to tell you. Hawaii doesnt have the same kind of heat Australia does. It's very tropical there best weather all year round. You would never need to wear a jacket and dont need to take more clothes off. I notice Ellen likes walking around half naked most of the time though.

[@Joesy015]

*I always thought Ellen is looking way older than her actual age and her skin is not looking that great*

[@krrrzzzzzz]

Ellen seems very nice and her videos are always very calming to watch. She seems to live a picture perfect, beautiful Instagram life, but never EVER would I take dietary advice for adults, pregnant women or children from her. Never!

[@loveparisienne36]

Theonlydays this comment accurately captures how many feel about Ellen no doubt her own subs

[@magdab687]

Theonlydays Has has

[@jaimie8689]

Same

[@suzanneh708]

I enjoy watching her and I don’t take advice from her or unnatural vegan. It’s entertaining and lovely to watch. Also this just ends up sounding catty at some point.

[@icedmocha5264]

Same. I only watch her for fun. I think her diet is inadequate and she preaches unhealthy habits.

[@MeganEmbodied]

I really appreciate your snap back. You were very cordial and well spoken with your responses to Ellen Fishers comment.

[@gradgirl583]

A chiropractor is not a doctor of medicine. They go through less schooling, and have COMPLETELY different training and certification. A chiropractor cannot prescribe medicine and they specializes and emphasize the proper alignment of the spine and body to promote good health, which has nothing to do with the field of medicine. This being said, people should not be taking their recommendations about vaccinations seriously, since they have no background or credentials to prescribe medicine in the first place. I am not saying anything bad about chiropractors, they are very helpful and have improved so many people’s quality of life, and of course, not all chiropractors are giving recommendations to people about vaccinating children, because they stick to what they are an expert in. Please understand that it is so important to understand where your information is coming from, in order for you to know that this information is reliable and valid. Thank you so much for talking about this because this insane idea that vaccinations are bad is going to have consequences for kids in the future, who had no say in the matter. Of course, not vaccinating your child is ultimately your choice, but putting your children and the public at risk because of bad research is not an excuse.

[@Aceofwolves]

A chiropractor is not a doctor period.

[@melaniexoxo]

Wow what a shift in the comments from the last video with basically the same content. Weird.

[@allyward753]

lambchopxoxo i was thinking the same thing?? comments from the last video were bashing the vid and saying it was rude and all the comments on this one are so supportive

[@hannahurh7044]

I was thinking the same thing! The internet is a funny place

[@Blurggg]

small minds are easily swayed. meh.

[@lindseyvelveeta2156]

Because she is deleting comments.

[@CorinnaAtHome]

lambchopxoxo this made me chuckle

[@mklahaze8004]

My grandmas brother died from polio when he was 3 and she was 5. A month later, she got polio and survived, then 3 months later, her other brother got meningitis and survived. She still has a limp to this day and she’s 75 years old. I am very aware that vaccines are the reason I don’t constantly worry about my children contracting these horrible diseases.

[@dowelldinewellauc8586]

Mkla Haze Exactly, the anti-vaxers have no idea what it’s like to live in fear of your children dying from these diseases.

[@ecomal5104]

Artificial slave

[@tkps]

@@ecomal5104 So that's all you could manage? My aunt died of scarlet fever with my other aunt getting the blame for sleeping next to her and not noticing, by my grandmother, although they were 3 and 5. Would you like to make a comment about that too?

[@jessicarose6634]

TKPS you do realise there's no vaccine for scarlet fever 🤒 still around today and not a killer..👍

[@jessicarose6634]

Mkla Haze people who got polio only got a cold , less then 1% got paralysis that was not always permanent but the treatment at the time was to keep kids strapped down and they never regained strength in their muscles. Hence long term paralysis.. this info is from NHS website uk.

[@cigall]

Wow, Ellen's face has aged A LOT since that video on B12, which was only a few years ago...probably the effect of all that Hawaii sun with little/no sunscreen.

[@sparkydoodle96]

White people refusing vaccines will never cease to amaze me

[@sarahyak_]

I really don’t understand why you’re spending so much time nit picking Ellen’s diet. She may not be right about every single thing in regards to health but if you’ve watched any of her videos you would see that she is trying her hardest. She is doing what she genuinely believes is best for her kids and herself. (And honestly, who has EVERYTHING right when it comes to health?) And if Ellen is “exploiting” her kids in her videos then what are you doing? Are you not exploiting her and her kids for views too when you make a title saying, “Ellen Fisher teaches you how to endanger your children.” -with a picture of her kids in the thumbnail??

[@meghanfraze5891]

Agreeeeed

[@autoestimasm3408]

A lot of her followers take her advice, and that can harm them and other people. That's why it's important to make this kind of videos. Sorry for my english

[@sarahyak_]

I get that - but I think it could have been done in a kinder, more constructive way. It's easy to forget that this is a real person (and family) that we are talking about and it seems harsh to say "Ellen teaches you how to endanger your children" among all the other things that were said in this video. @@autoestimasm3408

[@fuckthisshit8895]

Moneyyyyyyy

[@leamorvan3701]

Exactly, there's just no need for this pettiness.

[@JessBrookeAllen]

Came to see what Ellen had to say. I honestly love you both. But, I learned so much about how to feed my little! I thought I was doing well. New info is always great. Thanks.

[@katejagt6651]

Brooke Allen I agree!

[@floMa2014-c5o]

Check her IG. She made a post on there

[@sheib7741]

I mean, I know when I first started watching Ellen’s channel and watched the video about how she doesn’t supplement B12 for her or her family, I thought that was really cool and made the assumption that they didn’t because they got enough in other ways (that I never knew about). In fact, I waited off on getting a B12 supplement for quite a while (and after a blood test found out I had a slight deficiency) because I was under the impression that it wasn’t totally necessary to have one. I actually distinctly remember talking to my mum about how “cool” it was that Ellen didn’t give her children B12 because “they don’t need it”. I understand she’s since changed her position on that but I’d hate for a new vegan like I was to stumble upon that video like I did and come to the conclusion that it’s ok not to supplement for B12 (sorry about the very long comment!)

[@FellowLee]

+

[@yourlittelsister]

I like ellen, she looks nice. But always when i look her videos she eats all day long 😲. Here a salat, ther s salat, here a avocado ect and i think always ,, she eats so much salat but i would die only from salat, avocado , smoothies" (and also i would eat all day because its not this much its looks) ( Sorry for my grammer 😬😬🤯. I''m from switzerland)

[@lisabellerussell9536]

It's harder to get calories on a raw vegan diet, hence why she eats more during the day.

[@janspence6010]

Not being funny but up in the north of England, more than 15 minutes in the sun unprotected is considered dangerous. If that's dangerous here... I can't imagine not using suncream for 1.5 minutes in Hawaii

[@lisatugulea6550]

Agreed my daughter got burnt in February once and we are in Ireland so it was not very hot. Hot for February but not Hawaii hot.

[@enbonj5842]

Swayze is such a randomly cool name, never heard of anyone called thst before. Also good video lol

[@lovecinnamonxx]

You just blew my mind. I always assumed Swayze was her surname and your comment made me realize it's actually her first name 🤯.

[@h4xsama]

Wow i thought it was just a cool nickname she had

[@roryroodle]

i've been an occasional viewer of ellen's for a year or so and i had no idea how problematic her content really was - particularly her anti-vax and sunscreen stance. def-o unsubscribed, thank you for bringing the issues to light!

[@DoctorUltraviolence]

You got so much undeserved flacc for your last video on Ellen. I love how you called out the phrase "do your research!" -it is not as easy as debating on facebook and searching google.

[@thejosh51720]

"Also, trying to discredit the book I recommended just because the author is a chiropractor doesn't hold up." Does she realize how literally insane this sounds? That's literally like if I- a baker, tried to teach you rocket science I'm shocked at how she can't even process how crazy she sounds.

[@farrarchannel7227]

thejosh51720: Good point!

[@fuckthisshit8895]

thejosh51720 the difference is that a baker learns nothing of rocket science but a chiropractor learns all about the body.

[@thejosh51720]

Mandy Weinhold They learn about the body but they don’t learn about vaccines or diseases so I don’t understand your point.

[@fuckthisshit8895]

thejosh51720 I honestly can’t comment on what he says about vaccines because I haven’t read the book. My point is that because of his knowledge about the body, he could form an informed opinion AND know how to research studies and share them. So it’s a little absurd to say he has zero intellect on the matter.

[@HurricanexLiberty]

@@fuckthisshit8895 beware, anyone can call themselves a chiropractor. Anyone can pay a fake school online and call themselves chiropractor.

[@sensiblecrime7699]

My cousin got major brain damage from measles. He could speak, but not clearly. He was never able to get a job. Before he got measles he was a normal, happy child. He got it in 1964, right after the vaccine came out.

[@Aceofwolves]

I know someone who was paralyzed by measeals. She's been in a wheelchair the entire time I've seen her. She died of old age but suffered her whole life. She never was able to walk since she was 13. It makes me sad (the vaccine wasn't available to her as a kid)

[@sensiblecrime7699]

@@Aceofwolves Thank you for reminding people about measles. It's not just red bumps and a sore throat.

[@Aceofwolves]

@@sensiblecrime7699 so the "people didn't die" argument is DISGUSTING. She often told me "I'd rather have died like my little sister than survived measeals. It was the hardest fight of my life ..please get vaccinated kiddo (she often called me this). You will regret not getting it (the vaccine) and you'll wish you were dead."

[@sensiblecrime7699]

@@Aceofwolves I hope people who have these illnesses talk about it. Whooping cough isn't usually dangerous except in babies but my mother coughed until she threw up several times a day for an entire summer!

[@alexfraze12087]

This is sort of unrelated to the topic buutt... So, I've been wanting to go vegan or vegetarian for a while, but after watching your videos I realized it's not as easy to do it if you don't really have a basis in basic nutrition (which I do not). You've really inspired me to reach out for help, and last night was my first dietician appointment. I now have a game plan, and while right now I'm not going to be going full vegitarian (still will have a small amount of chicken and fish in my diet) right now, but I'm going to slowly work towards it. I guess I'm just saying, you've inspired me to go out and really learn about this before I jump into it, with potentially disasterous effects. So, yeah. Keep it up! Sorry, I don't know how to end this xD.

[@alyxskyler]

How’d it go? Are you still following this plan of limiting the fish/meat? Or are you vegetarian/vegan now? Or did you go vegetarian/vegan or try it and then ended up going back to meat? Thanks! Hope you’re doing well! ☺️💕

[@theshunnedBandersnatch]

How are you faring now? Were you able to transition?

[@madisoncallaghan]

My mom is now anti vaccine after my 4 year old siblings were born, and my older sister has autism, and my mom actually says she thinks she got autism from vaccines.... it really upset me. My sister didn’t hear but that just really shook me.

[@erinh9267]

You can share with your mom the study where doctors are able to figure out which babies in utero are more likely to have autism after age two. You can also show your mom the pruning neuron hypothesis and how one typical stage of healthy brain pruning is supposed to happen right around age two. When kids develop autistic symptoms after age two and seem to regress, it could be due to their brain not having a specific kind of pruning. That may help your mom. You can show her that it is common for parents of ppl with disabilities to wonder if they could have prevented their child's condition. Also, you could show her transmission of infectious disease videos.

[@aireeahnuh]

Have u read the book how not to die? What are your opinions on the information and dr Michael greger

[@Amandahugginkizz]

I would love a video on that!!!!@

[@johnharvey5412]

Interested in this as well. We've been doing the Daily Dozen for a little more than a month now and we've been doing great! I'm not saying we felt bad before, but hey. 🤷

[@Mimi-jb6jd]

yeah I love his book and the daily dozen seem really healthy BUT Michael Greger himself looks sickly lately...

[@myneoangel4299]

I would imagine she supports Dr Gregor. He’s a legitimate doctor and very clearly has the credentials and data to support his claims, which are in line with WHO vegan guidelines, etc. I would totally love to see a video of this anyway 😁

[@Kaleysia]

I don't know about her personal opinion, but Dr. Greger does give great nutrition advice when it comes to a vegan diet. Regarding the potential harm of oils and animalproducts there's certainly a lot of fear mongering and cherry picking going on. So this book is a two-edged sword. (Read it myself)

[@onebraincellleft2563]

Omg, 40 minutes of Swayze, especially about this issue, gotta grab a snack and get comfy 🍵

[@itsmargi5076]

Every time I hear Swayze, I think of Patrick Swayze. XD

[@jessicaamillian4522]

I managed to clean my whole kitchen listening to this! It was great

[@TheCerealluvr]

Bunny Runner I FUCKING love her

[@TheCerealluvr]

αnnα rιley saaaaame

[@li82li]

wait WHAT? 40? they went like 5=)))) just noticed

[@IsabelleSxoxo]

I'm so glad you mentioned the whole sun protection issue! Having excessive sun exposure at such a young age is a huge risk factor for skin cancers later on in life. My mum, who is a doctor, recently removed a melanoma from a 17-yr-old student. It's a serious problem and people like Ellen need to realise this.

[@volleygirl285]

I know the girl who’s father wrote the book about vaccinations. I was sitting at a brunch with her and 3 other women when they all started talking about how bad vaccines are. I didn’t even know what to say. She also sent us all the book to read. It was honestly ridiculous. He’s also trying to get his daughter, who is in school to become a nurse, to be exempt from getting her vaccinations which they are required to get for obvious (or so I thought) reasons. I asked my father in law (who is an ER doctor) about vaccines, and he said that he should go into a hospital where children & elderly are being treated for whooping cough and measles to see it first hand

[@christiegreenwood2642]

I grew up in Brazil and now, decades later, I have had to remove several melanomas. Same thing goes for several family members and acquaintances who grew up under similar circumstances. So, no, Ellen, UV rays are not your friends.

[@TheDrippinSwagoo]

Imagine thinking you’re smarter than science. Smh. I love Ellen but this was all so disappointing 😞

[@mannypedib]

I never knew vegan youtube could be this calmly messy!!

[@chrissim4115]

At least it’s “calmly” messy unlike *cough cough* Beauty community

[@latreenahaney9204]

Exactly; agreed

[@ashgrace90]

The sun thing really gets me. Her kids have the craziest tans ever and there’s no way she only spends an hour a week in the sun.

[@emilymorgan817]

I’m VERY fair skinned. If I sit in the sun for half an hour I burn. When I was a child if I’d have gone out in the sun with no sunscreen for 2 hours I’d have got sun stroke. Isn’t her youngest a red head too? She’ll learn pretty quickly that she can’t go out in the sun for 2 hours like her older children and maybe change her opinions on this. That being said I really enjoy Ellen’s channel but don’t agree with everything she believes. That can be said for pretty much every content creator. Anyway love your videos, always so well put together and informative, I’m one of those people that watched every video! Haha! Don’t know why I’m writing this pretty pointless comment... 😂

[@kristine8783]

I'm very fair skinned with light blond hair and blue eyes so I burn very easily so imaging her poor babies without sunscreen breaks my heart. Especially since they all have lighter eyes and people with lighter eyes are more prone to get sunburns and skin issues. Hopefully she can educate herself before one of her children gets skin cancer in their early 20's.

[@mycolouralchemy1259]

emily morgan I used to burn easily when my diet wasn't fill of good fats etc but not as a fair skinned child in the Middle East.

[@chloe-bq5zw]

Ellen puts sunscreen on her youngest!

[@kristine8783]

Chloe Roberts how do you know that?

[@chloe-bq5zw]

kristine There’s a video of her putting sunscreen on Scout in the video on her channel where she is at her friend’s baby shower.

[@lilykoihawaii]

What's your opinion on methylation of B vitamins? I've heard (initially from the "biohacker" crowd, so....) that a decent portion of the population (around 25%, if I recall correctly) may have genetic "snips" that impede their ability to methylate B vitamins. Cyanocobalamin has to be methylated before it can be utilized, but if someone has a known or unknown genetic predisposition that limits methylation, theoretically they could still be low in active B12 (and potentially experiencing symptoms of low B12) despite regular/responsible supplementation. That's the reason I opt for methylcobalamin, but I'm interested to hear your opinion. Take care!

[@victoria2338]

Thank you so much for mentioning the tan-thing! I really had NO CLUE that the tan itself is almost as dangerous as a sunburn. I love your channel so much ❤️

[@nandaschuch]

I was a faithful subscriber of Ellen, but the vaccination thing is just too big to ignore... thank you for your video, I disagree with a bunch of what you said, but agree on the vaccine, and that's the beauty of a video like yours, it will have flaws and some people will hate it, but ultimately it will open up healthy discussions about what we support "unconsciously"

[@earthmarkings]

So because she has a different stance on a subject you wont watch her videos anymore? A lot of people dont even share controversial topics with others, I like that she does. And she also never tells people to do anything, she just says to do research yourself instead of blatantly following what other vegans are doing. Her videos really give me lots of positive vibes and would never stop watching her videos and judge her because she has a different view from the majority of people. I have this friend who I had a discussion with on a very serious topic, and I felt really personally attacked because something he said was very negative, and very ignorant/ selfish. We stayed friends however and I just dont talk about that topic anymore. I think it is great to be able to still appreciate people for who they are and to not judge and not just what they think. And believe that inherently they are still good people. Edit: i finished watching the video and I so agree with you :) it is also healthy having a discussion on topics, but I guess this becomes harder when we are painting a negative picture of people and judging them personally, but rather just educating with factual information. I realise now this comment is actually quite useless. But do with it what you want lol have a nice day ☀️

[@aubreegriffith8426]

Maartje Steehouwer yes yes I agree 100%💕

[@frozenyogurth]

@@earthmarkings The thing is though, while you and your friend had a private matter, Ellen is a public figure who is a rolemodel to many people, especially young ones are suceptible to stuff like this. She isn't promoting an "Opinion" like wether cilantro is tasty or not, but dangerous misinformation about life-threatening diseases and their ailment. She's spreading this information as if it were fact.

[@brittniep9219]

Maartje Steehouwer she could cause her children or immunocompromised people to die. This isn’t a “negative picture” but someone espousing illogical, ignorant and dangerous beliefs to her followers instead of facts.

[@valeriakitty12]

I have no right to judge other people’s diets when I eat literal trash on the reg 🙃 😭

[@kylierae3156]

Same 😂

[@NadiasNook1]

I love how you respond to every part of her comment and how both of you manage to actually have this discussion is a mature way, not how most youtube 'drama' goes down. It is definitely refreshing. And I have a lot of respect for the calm way you explain everything you said! Well done!

[@gabrielleaustin1761]

Nadia's Nook agreed. Several other big vegan channels could take some notes on this

[@jennybenners3683]

I watched some of Ellen’s videos but only because I find them aesthetically pleasing but I found it really bizarre that they mostly eat fruits and powders.. There was a video where her husband ate a watermelon as a meal 😳 Anyhow, I watched your last video on her content and I enjoyed it. Her comment was just so long. I understand being defensive but gosh it made her unlikable and immature to me. I will say- this is making me rethink my family’s diet... we are not vegan but I’m sure we’re missing things!! 😬 But, like you say, she is putting her content out there as advice and can be taken as educational...

[@theblackpearl7035]

He also ate half of a jackfruit as a meal

[@CmoreAnts]

Why didn’t Ellen just send an email, as she stated she would have appreciated? I’ve watched a lot of her videos too, they helped me go plant based but as time has gone on I have stopped appreciating them like I used to. Also, if we aren’t exploiting our children, why is there a video entirely attributed to Elvis on the channel? (I’m still subscribed so I noticed it). If he wants to make videos let him create his own channel.

[@simini1837]

I agree that video’s from vegan KZbinrs like Ellen are influencial. Only after going to a dietician i discovered that my iron levels, b12 and vitamine D are low due to my plant based diet. Many vegan KZbinrs promote an unhealthy diet because the diet in their video’s is too low fat and dont contain enough proteïne, iron, calcium etc.

[@spudstalker9824]

9:31 - she hit us with that "Ya'll".

[@Aceofwolves]

I beleive she grew up in the South. Not sure though but she meantioned southern food sometimes in videos.

[@lauraruiz7237]

I would like to know why you think Neil Barnard is not a reliable source?... Can you do a video on this?

[@nkipmo1154]

True! I would like to know this as well

[@jeffxcc]

Dr. Neil Barnard is very qualified, being a Doctor is a great start when giving advise. Would also love to see a video about how unqualified he is.

[@tomdeblink6080]

Yeah Neal Barnard is not a reliable source but UV lol, she is deluded.

[@jennashaw6710]

after doing a bit of preliminary snooping around about him (i genuinely didn’t know who he was before this video), i found that he has ties to PETA. and i had heard of his claims that you can solve diabetes issues with a vegetarian diet, but some have said that his research was largely funded by animal advocacy groups like PETA for the purpose of TRYING to prove that you can by healthy as a diabetic with his style of vegetarian diet. for example, he puts down salmon as unhealthy, but that’s largely untrue, unless you mean for the salmon themselves. also just in general, it seems a LOT of diabetics who tried his method just find it to be utter crap and not realistic at all. i’d have to look more into it, but maybe that can give someone a head start into researching his credibility?

[@LegallyBoopy]

Idk how this ended up in my recommended since I'm not a vegan (but I do love Jenna Marbles). Either way I'm THANKFUL to be introduced to you! Gurrrl the tea in this vegan community is hotter than the beauty community wtf hahaha. That being said, let me say something more serious: I've been one of those meat-eaters who tries to eat one plant-based meal a week since honestly I do want to do SOMETHING, but I can't really afford vegan food, as a poor student putting herself through law school, or spend the time it would take to prep vegan food for someone who lifts weights 4-5 times a week (that's a LOT of food). Once I'm not a student anymore I'd love to try a vegan or at least more environmentally friendly diet but I'm not sure how..I'm sure it's possible but it makes me nervous since I'm already kind of sensitive to some foods since I got my gallbladder removed at 23. I wonder what the best way would be.. Any advice is welcome!

[@dianehutchinson9257]

One time one of Ellen's videos popped up in my feed--detailing what she and her family had eaten that day. She happened to be pregnant in that video and I remember thinking there was no way she'd gotten enough fat or protein...just watched a few more and still think the same. So your points about how a casual viewer would see her content are spot on!

[@harmony202]

What are your thoughts about Intermittent fasting and omad? Do they really have a contribution towards anti aging?

[@lilipusion]

Really interested to hear her thoughts on intermittent fasting as well!

[@w.o.4870]

I mean I would think so because all the energy that is going to digestion would instead go to other important bodily functions like making new skin cells more efficiently, helping regulate your immune system and stuff like that), but I'm not an expert or a professional, just an amateur health researcher. :))

[@herebedragons5097]

But your body won't have any energy because you haven't eaten...

[@lilipusion]

Here be Dragons I tried it for a week and didn’t really notice much of a difference in terms of energy level. It wasn’t that hard to maintain for myself because I tend to not get hungry in the morning anyways, but I can understand people who wake up at 7-8am everyday struggling with being productive/feeling energetic with no food in their body until 11-12 or whenever you stop the fast.

[@w.o.4870]

@@herebedragons5097 Your body will run off of stored fat for as long as it can( basically until all your bodily fat is burned off from being in ketosis), but I do not think that fasting for extended periods (more than 24 hours) is that healthy for your body. Also you need to make sure that you are eating the correct amount of calories for your specific age and activity level when you are not fasting or many people start developing an eating disorder. This is just what I have found from researching the subject. Hope it helps!! :)

[@madeline5175]

I thought to myself "there is no way I will watch the whole video." Yet, here I am because Swayze is badass.

[@lesliec3108]

I have been a subscriber to Ellen for about two years now and she has inspired me to incorporate a more plant-based diet into my life. I had no idea she was anti-vax, it’s truly ignorant and dangerous. I’m definitely unsubscribing.

[@jaguar4120]

You should. Ellen dangerous. 🙄

[@impanduhhh6860]

woo! we love people who can change there opinion when presented with new information

[@musicislove8907]

Anyone who has written a college essay that requires "references" knows that you can fudge it. Not that I've ever done it.. neeeever.

[@organicallyhannah]

The tea I’m here for

[@makesandskates]

I agree, if you have old videos with inaccurate content, then you should take it down. Hell, you can even make a follow-up video on that removed video to identify and correct your mistakes. If you're not removing it, even though you are aware it's promoting an unhealthy lifestyle, then I would say you would be the one trying to get as many clicks on your content.

[@nomdeplume9852]

Swayze, too, has some old video shit floating around (raw stupidity of the past). Some people may only bump into those videos, without knowing that now she makes fun of her old self. So, "do as I say, not as I do" ? I mean, in all fairness...

[@cinnamon709]

Situs Inversus She’s recently deleted them

[@kyliel2059]

My sons immunologists (who is a expert) would have to disagree with her. vaccines ARE needed very very important.

[@leslieyascencio]

I had a chiropractor who tried to push anti vaccination ideas on me once. Not even joking. He even gave me some book I never read as a “gift”. So strange.

[@Aceofwolves]

REAL DOCTORS don't give patients gifts. Its not ethical and you would lose your LICENCE as a result. Again chiropractors are NOT REAL DOCTORS