Responding to More JoJo Hot Takes

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@johnnyrakugakichnotachyet5307
@johnnyrakugakichnotachyet5307 Ай бұрын
"the explanation of the stone mask took away the supernatural elements of it" The explanation: an ancient god like being wanted to go out in the sun so he created a mask that gives you superpowers
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 Ай бұрын
Yeah it's weird, sounds this person just wanted them to be run of the mill vampires.😅
@johnnyrakugakichnotachyet5307
@johnnyrakugakichnotachyet5307 Ай бұрын
@@shinyagumon7015 which funnily enough is closer to reality, because you can have the weakness and the looks of a classic Nosferatu type vampire irl by having a certain illness
@TheAuthorStudios
@TheAuthorStudios Ай бұрын
also like the explanation is that the mask presses acumputure points in the brain that activates it's latent potential, isn't it? that's like, complete pseudo-science. if anything i think jojo making pseudo-scientific or surpsestitious ideas be acutally true in it's story ENHANCES it's supernatural mysteriousness.
@mrreyes5004
@mrreyes5004 Ай бұрын
That's the same BS as "Midi-chlorians suck because they take away the mysticism of the Force!" Like... *_no, it doesn't._* It's just a barebones explanation for HOW the thing works without actually defining it. The Stone Mask blatantly uses pseudoscience as we know it, and exactly what the "latent potential" is that it unlocks is never actually explained. JoJo "fans" just love proving how much they don't know squat, I guess.
@soarel325
@soarel325 Ай бұрын
@@TheAuthorStudios Plus that's from Part 1! It's not a new idea in Part 2!
@AeonKnigh432
@AeonKnigh432 Ай бұрын
"Coincidental bound by fate." Yeah. That's how fate works. Like. Conceptually.
@everybodysNocturnal
@everybodysNocturnal Ай бұрын
you would never see anyone complain about this kind of thing for the previous parts. youd never see someone complain about the connections dio has to the villains in part 4, for example.
@simvsthewrld9661
@simvsthewrld9661 Ай бұрын
Breaking news: part 6 hater learns about fate
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
Media Literacy must be weird when you try to question fate.
@nezeund
@nezeund Ай бұрын
Learning about the major theme of the story while reading the sixth (!) part and being angry that it's *suddenly* there is wild
@F1areon
@F1areon Ай бұрын
Wasn't that the whole point of the "Stand users attract other Stand users" thing??
@vivianistheworst3212
@vivianistheworst3212 Ай бұрын
All I'm saying is that part 4 would've ended a lot sooner if Koichi used 3 Freeze on Kira's nuts
@Dugong-cb7lw
@Dugong-cb7lw Ай бұрын
Whu
@Magic_Ice
@Magic_Ice Ай бұрын
Why didn’t he do that? Is he stupid?
@bravewryy6781
@bravewryy6781 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Ай бұрын
Ok this time, even characters in universe cannot come up with this.
@СавелийИванов-ш3м
@СавелийИванов-ш3м Ай бұрын
Araki forgot about balls
@SaphiraThePhantom
@SaphiraThePhantom Ай бұрын
Hot Take: JoJo isn't that confusing, most fans just don't know how to read.
@Yggdraseed
@Yggdraseed Ай бұрын
The topic is hot takes, not objectively correct takes
@lindaunderling4637
@lindaunderling4637 Ай бұрын
I need like a spread sheet to explain wou powrr scaling
@manusia-hk4xd
@manusia-hk4xd Ай бұрын
Wonder of u, soft and wet go beyond, king Crimson, D4C first Introduction : hold my beer
@chrono_wave_real
@chrono_wave_real Ай бұрын
applies to many other series too
@lindaunderling4637
@lindaunderling4637 Ай бұрын
@@chrono_wave_real even explaining Garous ability and saitama as a deconstruction meeds a spreadsheet tbf
@PKFireFawx
@PKFireFawx Ай бұрын
The utilitarian approach to watching anime vexes me too. I dont know why anyone would want to skip Josuke using Mikitaka to cheat at Rohan's game, its such a great episode.
@brycekerr9090
@brycekerr9090 Ай бұрын
This vexes me
@JazzTheLass
@JazzTheLass Ай бұрын
did you try the hamon drug
@elviswilliams1131
@elviswilliams1131 Ай бұрын
Agreed people these days have no attention span
@stinkle4822
@stinkle4822 Ай бұрын
If people want a show that only has plot heavy episodes they should watch Hazbin Hotel, I broke my neck how fast it went by, and guess what? I couldn't care about any of the characters or just anything going on because of it
@potateo7504
@potateo7504 Ай бұрын
Yeah I don't get it a lot of the time. I feel like people greatly undervalue moments/time to develop the characters outside the plot. It makes everything more fleshed out most of the time and is often crucial. People definitely love part 3 and 7 more because it has smaller moments/fights in them.
@thegabrelian631
@thegabrelian631 Ай бұрын
the pink suit giorno matches much better with his hair and stand than the blue, plus its very recognizable
@FizzyVonDizzy
@FizzyVonDizzy Ай бұрын
it's true. also, his shoes in the colored manga are green...it looks horrendious with the blue and red suit. the pink has blue buttons and blue shoes, contrasting greatly with giorno's green eyes and blonde hair
@Magic_Ice
@Magic_Ice Ай бұрын
So many jojo protagonist have/had Blue as their primary color (Johnathan, Jotaro, Josuke, and Johnny) so changing Giorno to be a way more unique Pink is a huge improvement imo.
@nightscribenyx
@nightscribenyx Ай бұрын
​@@Magic_Ice I agree, I think it helps differentiate him as Dio's son for that reason
@averonisgaming9023
@averonisgaming9023 Ай бұрын
it also helps tie in with how Araki was going to make Giorno a woman with pink being a traditionally feminine color
@royalfun1031
@royalfun1031 Ай бұрын
​@@Magic_IceWhat was Joseph
@uvarighalvarado8677
@uvarighalvarado8677 Ай бұрын
"Yes, this is how fiction works" is the new "how refrigerators work" lmao, this community is the gift that keeps on giving.
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Ай бұрын
And also... without the inciting incident the story wouldn't happen. It doesn't matter if you think it's contrived, if you don't want it to happen then you don't want the plot
@debro4724
@debro4724 Ай бұрын
That explanation about Marco at the end was absolutely beautiful. Made me wanna give a standing ovation for just that. Just realized how much of part 7's thematics I failed to connect. This guys knows jojo.
@El_Mince
@El_Mince Ай бұрын
i said this in the post already but i think diavolo is underrated. his name being the inverse of dio's is a great way of showing their opposing views of fate, where dio wants people to embrace it while diavolo runs from it. this also makes him the perfect antithesis to the lessons of part 5, and i think that's neat. also kc is very cool
@stinkle4822
@stinkle4822 Ай бұрын
I love all of jojo's religious themes, so I can really appreciate Dio's son (Son of God) defeating Diavolo (Devil). Not quite as on the nose as pucci and weather but it's cool
@HuneeBruh
@HuneeBruh Ай бұрын
I love diavolo, he’s kinda bland as a villain but his design (especially when he was in the shadows and had a completely different haircut and clothes), stand, and characterization is all awesome
@randomsmashplays3564
@randomsmashplays3564 Ай бұрын
i love diavolo. i tend to find that when people discuss him, they kind of forget that he had a massive presence throughout the part from the get-go. diavolo didn't just like start existing during the colosseum arc, his existence, his presence, was there the whole time. the idea of the mafia leader that keeps his identity completely hidden is terrifying, and the way he almost compulsively and aggressively tries to hide any and all evidence of who he is is deeply compelling. i would agree with the idea that diavolo is a weaker antagonist if you only looked at his time in the colosseum, but i think that's some extreme cherry-picking.
@Wattson19
@Wattson19 Ай бұрын
I love Diavolo too. His mental illness and his views on fate are the most interesting aspects of him by far.
@mrreyes5004
@mrreyes5004 Ай бұрын
Thematically and Stand-wise, sure. But in terms of personality and motive... black-dandruff boi is about as deep as a little kiddie pool -_- .
@MzMz00888
@MzMz00888 Ай бұрын
idk if this is a hot take but Part 6s ending not only isnt very complicated but its also very satisfying to that era of JoJo as a whole
@atomdecay
@atomdecay Ай бұрын
Yeah lol, imagine thinking something is bad because you aren't smart enough to understand it.
@HSE331
@HSE331 Ай бұрын
@@atomdecaythis is literally the rick and morty requires high iq to understand thing. stone ocean fans are pretty similiar to that crowd i guess.
@MasterLu551
@MasterLu551 Ай бұрын
@@HSE331 Pretentiousness isn't exclusive to any fandom but it is true that a lot of people just don't pay enough attention and end up not understanding the ending
@HSE331
@HSE331 Ай бұрын
@@MasterLu551 its also true that people have always disliked part 6 even when it was first publishing in japan. its not a mystery why either.
@justinjakeashton
@justinjakeashton Ай бұрын
My hot take is I hate the part 5 ending. Every time I rewatch part 5, I stop after Polnareff dies.
@arios6443
@arios6443 Ай бұрын
I'm starting to feel like Stardust Crusaders is more of a victim of hype-backlash than anything. It's been promoted over other parts for so long that people are a little too eager to accept criticism without questioning it. It hits far more often than it misses.
@F1areon
@F1areon Ай бұрын
I think the pacing of the anime adaptation is kinda weird, even though I like SDC as a whole; there were WAY too many 2-parters that... really didn't need to be 2-parters. The manga's pacing is a lot snappier.
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 Ай бұрын
My hot take that was reinforced by this video is that people are overusing the word "Filler" as a criticism. Stories are not just about getting from Plot Point A to Plot Point B in the most direct and straightforward way possible, an episode or a chapter not directly focusing on the main storyline doesn't mean it's unimportant or bad.
@Mcl_Blue
@Mcl_Blue Ай бұрын
Speaking from experience, some people got burned really bad with fillers in the past. That said, yes I agree.
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 Ай бұрын
@@Mcl_Blue But its not filler, its part of the story.
@Mcl_Blue
@Mcl_Blue Ай бұрын
@@shinyagumon7015 I know.
@user-ud7gv3br5d
@user-ud7gv3br5d Ай бұрын
people care too much about the ending, the final boss, the legendary pokemon and etc, they get into jojo expecting that big Dio fight with time stopping and get frustrated when they actually have to watch the show to get to it
@maccamachine
@maccamachine Ай бұрын
True
@MrGshinobi
@MrGshinobi Ай бұрын
God the gyro analysis at the end is so spot on, people completely misunderstand his character and the message of the story simply because they didn't like the outcome.
@jaydee3d476
@jaydee3d476 Ай бұрын
Hot take: people make way to much of a fuss over automatic pursial type stands in jojolion. i feel like the fandom just reached a consensous because monthly reading really breaks up the tension of a chase, but if anyone read it in one sitting without those preconceptions, i think they'd find a lot of good in fights like doobie wah and blue hawaii. hell if you want to lump wonder of u in there too, that arc is immesnly good in the way it reverses the pursuit.
@GorillaFan_32
@GorillaFan_32 Ай бұрын
I agree. I just cant get poor toms stand for the life of me, with burying of the whitehouse. Other than that, doobie wah and blue hawaii actually goes hard
@HSE331
@HSE331 Ай бұрын
actual hot take: people shit on part 3s pacing and stand of the week when as a weekly manga you could tune in literally any time and recieve a high octane action packed fight and mystery as well as a new geographic setting
@DanideLouro
@DanideLouro Ай бұрын
as a person who read part 8 after the conclusion: doobie wah is fucking amazing i just love it even the final battle didn't seem dragged on after reading it all in one sit
@blakeerenhouse943
@blakeerenhouse943 Ай бұрын
@@HSE331I wouldn’t consider a lot of the part 3 fights to be high octane and action packed lol.
@boinqity4621
@boinqity4621 Ай бұрын
honestly thats a big problem with regular releases in general. i remember when people were reading jjk as the manga came out a lot of people (myself included) actually thought the shibuya arc was boring. after re reading and watching the anime all in one go i can safely say its one of my favorite arcs in any show ever.
@donkeycheese8098
@donkeycheese8098 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: Part 01's adaptation could've been better if they kept some manga content in the story
@tire_iron488
@tire_iron488 Ай бұрын
true, I would've loved to see the prologue at the start of the manga
@justatoaster7476
@justatoaster7476 Ай бұрын
It feels like they deliberately did this so that most of the first season episode count would cover part 2. Kinda sucks though as they left out really interesting scenes.
@FilthyTea
@FilthyTea Ай бұрын
I think it’s better without the sacrifice scene. It makes the mask more mysterious since we don’t explicitly see what its purpose is until Dio uses it on the guy in the street.
@gavyncarter9461
@gavyncarter9461 Ай бұрын
I agree. I grew to love part 1 so much, the anime adaptation was just rushed imo. Do you guys think it could've been stretched the same length of bt? Or nah?
@AsuratheKid
@AsuratheKid Ай бұрын
how is that a hot take at all? lmao
@PrixtoTNT
@PrixtoTNT Ай бұрын
Rohan is perfect for spinoffs since even in Part 4 it was his curiosity got him in trouble many times.
@hypervt8816
@hypervt8816 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: Jotaro often gets mischaracterized as an omega unfeeling badass or whatever. We see time and time again he genuinely cares a lot about stuff even if he does try to hide it BECAUSE HE IS A TEEN. He notices his mom doesn't come to say goodbye to him despite him claiming to hate hit, he asks Avdol to say one liners, and more. And this gets proved again when you look at Iggy. Jotaro really is just a teenager
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
I honestly subscribe to the theory that Jotaro has Autism and that he just struggles to express his emotions and expects everyone to be able to tell. I can relate as someone on the spectrum, and it really doesn't feel far-fetched.
@Syliag7
@Syliag7 Ай бұрын
​@@leithaziz2716 his strongest ability wasn't stopping time or punching really hard, it was Autism all along
@F1areon
@F1areon Ай бұрын
@@leithaziz2716 That's... actually kind of canon? The little profile for Jotaro in some of the manga releases states that he doesn't usually emote bc he doesn't see a need to and thinks his feelings are obvious.
@divineterabyte5181
@divineterabyte5181 Ай бұрын
​@leithaziz2716 He's truly our feisty nonverbal autistic queen and we love him for it (Jokes aside, I've always been a big subscriber to this theory too, mostly cuz of those data entries that say he views emoting as useless and that his emotions should simply be obvious within the moment. It's made him one of my favourite characters, just because I related so hard to him as a teenager)
@Hoopsnake
@Hoopsnake Ай бұрын
People here have mentioned autism as an explanation for Jotaro's behavior, but there's one element I think that doesn't come up nearly enough. Jotaro is a 17 year old kid with a mostly absent dad, who himself becomes a mostly absent dad. He clearly has a lot of anger issues stemming from this, which means that his growing relationship with his grandfather is a really nice touch across the story. Stands are the expression of someone's soul. Jotaro is stoic, but his stand is furiously aggressive. It's clear he's bottling a lot up. And then try to unpack the fact that he ends up unleashing all that anger on a body that is literally his direct ancestor.
@mjm3091
@mjm3091 Ай бұрын
9:15 Pink also stands outs against all the other JoJos. We had Jotaro and Josuke back to back with blueish black of male school uniforms (with Jotaro having some other undertones). With Jolyne also keeping it navy. So giving Giorno something different works really well, especially as he is also (dyed) blonde opposite to other Joestars.
@bonevelous
@bonevelous Ай бұрын
6:45 JoJo fans really want to take all of the personality out of JoJo. How would JoJo be any fun if it only had the "necessary" fights and none of the ones that add some personality to the world the series is set in?
@stinkle4822
@stinkle4822 Ай бұрын
It's a crazy mindset, depending on what's considered a "necessary" fight, there could easily be only what, like 15 in the whole anime?
@PsycheTrance65
@PsycheTrance65 Ай бұрын
i'm guessing its because there is an endless pit of anime to consume so some people want to minmax watching so they can join in on every discussion of popular anime that said its a dogshit tactic. all it does is increase the amount of fans without comprehension skills who ask questions about things that were answered in the part they skipped lol
@kota2373
@kota2373 Ай бұрын
Quick entertainment has become so vapid, and attention spans so short, that any piece of media that requires some basic level investment from an audience becomes like a shore you have to go through to not get left behind in the conversation, it's kind of sad really. That's why there are now "totally legitimate anime fans" that non-ironically recommend skipping introductory arcs (like One Piece's East Blue Saga) because "they're all the same like a super hero origin story" or make crazy read/watch orders to "trim the fat and get to the good stuff", it's like the "adults that never matured out of being picker eaters" version of consuming media.
@mikehu2451
@mikehu2451 25 күн бұрын
@@PsycheTrance65 But on the bright side, more of them means more hamon beat videos debunking Araki forgot
@PsycheTrance65
@PsycheTrance65 24 күн бұрын
@@mikehu2451 lmao now thay you mention it... hamon beat is technically making a living out of people who cant read 😂
@ranadelray
@ranadelray Ай бұрын
My Hot Take is that the Ending of Part 6 is Perfect, because it completely pinpoints the entire reason why the Jostars are so good. It’s always about saving others. The main JoJo in every single part has saved a child. And in the end, Jolyne sacrifices herself to save Emporio, which ties this theme from the very beginning of part 1 all the way through until now. Even if they can save just one person, the Jostar bloodline will always fight like hell to. It’s a really beautiful and powerful theme and the Ending just highlights this for the story entirely.
@Hoopsnake
@Hoopsnake Ай бұрын
It also ties into Jolyne being the most underrated Jojo. Other Jojos risk potential injury in their fights. Jolyne absolutely knows she's fucked and yet still does the right thing. She doesn't just risk death, she faces it.
@narutofror
@narutofror Ай бұрын
Hot take: Giornos “lack of character development” isn’t only false but it’s also what makes the story work. While giorno doesn’t exhibit much change personality wise you can see that his relationship with team buccarati is different from the start to the finish. At the beginning giorno was the odd one out and you can clearly tell the group treats him like an outsider until he earns their trust. You can also see how at the beginning giorno didn’t knew a lot of things about his own ability and we see how he slowly masters gold experience throughout the story. Last but not least a big part of Giorno is how he shines a light that moves his teammates foward as they have resigned to their fates and it isn’t until giorno pushes everyone foward that they grew and ultimately achieve a greater purpose by stopping diabolo
@PsycheTrance65
@PsycheTrance65 Ай бұрын
@@narutofror i like how someone else put it: "giorno already finished his own character development before the story started. his main role in the story proper is to jumpstart the others' (bucci gang) character developments"
@EMan-xj5cz
@EMan-xj5cz Ай бұрын
8:29 YES (but hot take: the black suit is even better than both)
@bisscotto9146
@bisscotto9146 Ай бұрын
It's not even an hot take, thats a fact
@MullyWhizz
@MullyWhizz Ай бұрын
My hot take is that a lot of complaints about Jojo really are just people coming in with some expectation and being confused when it's not met. imo often relating to expecting Jojo to be more similar to other shonen stories and being confused with something like stands being unlike other shonen abilities and rules theyre used to.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
I think the confusion stems from the fact that JoJo is a niche doesn't fit into a clear genre since every part is so distinctly different. And then there's just stylistic choices, like the ever changing color palletes depending on the mood, or time stopping everytime a character exposites what's happening (hello Speedwagon). This is not me riffing on JoJo. I legitimately am charmed by how unconventional it is, while still having many human elements to latch unto for the emotional aspects to work for an audience.
@lucaschannel726
@lucaschannel726 8 күн бұрын
Jojo kinda the reverse of typical shonen genre really. Having a more serious and mature themes and story, a non static protagonist, villains who are dangerous in different ways even if they’re not always powerful like Kira, and characters who stay dead and don’t come back to life.
@aphexloser
@aphexloser Ай бұрын
I think that Part 6 is the best JoJo part. (Manga and Anime) The characters, the stand battles, the antagonists, art, etc, its all perfectly done.
@justinstrong9595
@justinstrong9595 Ай бұрын
I sobbed in the bathroom at work when I finished it it destroyed me and uplifted me so utterly. I loved all the fights too. Foo Fighter's reveal and the plankton explaining itself and the universe were unbelievably awesome. Love the entire part.
@phantomskadi
@phantomskadi Ай бұрын
TRUE AND BASED !! i have stand battles i like more in other parts and part 4 has the best characters imo but part 6 is the best overall EASILY. im never going to watch or read it ever again because it makes me sad but it's for sure the best one
@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate
@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate Ай бұрын
18:40 The problem is it just kinda happens out of nowhere, maybe a chapter actually all around Sandman slowly being corrupted would have made the reveal way more meaningful, like being told there is a bomb underneath the table instead of the table randomly exploding.
@apoxalypsewhen
@apoxalypsewhen Ай бұрын
Remember when johnny carved a statue of himself in a tree out of fucking nothing all while hiding under the sand
@shrimplyfire
@shrimplyfire Ай бұрын
@@apoxalypsewhen when was this, was it during sugar mountain time?
@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838
@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 Ай бұрын
​​@@shrimplyfire in the Wired arc iirc
@shrimplyfire
@shrimplyfire Ай бұрын
@@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 high voltage?
@shrimplyfire
@shrimplyfire Ай бұрын
Oh wait no pork pie hat kid
@madibyee
@madibyee Ай бұрын
I didn't realize this was a hot take but I don't think the pacing issue of the D'Arby the Gambler arc being stretched to 2 episodes is an issue at all. That is one of my favorite episodes of Jojo in general and I love how drawn out it is. You can really feel the tension and anxiety and it's awesome.
@phantomskadi
@phantomskadi Ай бұрын
absolutely! i personally don't really have any issues with the pacing of the part 3 anime and both d'arby fights despite being quite long are some of my favorite episodes in the series
@rowanrawlz1871
@rowanrawlz1871 Ай бұрын
The problem with sound man isnt his eventual corruption. it's that theres no buildup or hints. If the main understanding of what happened is "oh thats the alternate universe him" then it simply doesnt work
@blackhogarth4049
@blackhogarth4049 Ай бұрын
This was my thought, exactly.
@neme-chan
@neme-chan Ай бұрын
Every jojo adaptation has pacing issues since they kept all the dialogue, which works well in manga but drags on in anime
@HSE331
@HSE331 Ай бұрын
the adaptation is for people who already read the manga to see their favourite lines voice acted and their favourite panels animated its not that deep
@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838
@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 Ай бұрын
​​​@@HSE331 the thing is that everyone treats the anime like it's the "definitive experience" for how to see the story after it comes out and completely neglects the manga
@neme-chan
@neme-chan Ай бұрын
@@HSE331 It's wrong on so many levels. First, you defend shit like Bleach TYBW that was rushed and anime doesn't need to improve the SM, right? Second, you're literally against the art and pro entertainment. Third, preventing your fav thing from growing alongside adaptation is literally the opposite of JoJo you're oh so passionately defending you fanboy.
@HSE331
@HSE331 Ай бұрын
@@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 well thats a bad thing. jojo is arakis art not some intern at studio david pro trying to emulate it. they are both valuable mediums but western jojo fans just want to ignore it. and don't get me started on the coloured scans.
@nightmarionne4987
@nightmarionne4987 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: Diavolo is one of, if not the best villain in JoJo For one, I think his character design is perfect and is kind of a microcosm of what JoJo is all about. It's weird, colourful and flamboyant, and Diavolo's design fits this perfectly. The fact that a man with long, pink polka-dotted hair, purple lipstick, a revealing feminine lace shirt and purple studded pants still manages to be one of the coolest and most intimidating villains is exactly what I'd expect from JoJo Making Diavolo split personalities with Doppio was a genius decision. For one, it suits the 'devil' theme that Diavolo is going for. Seeing this normal looking kid suddenly gain piercing green eyes, a much deeper and softer voice and gain a level of physical strength that seemingly doesn't match his physique really sells the idea that Doppio is being possessed by a demon. It also lets us feel Diavolo's presence without him having to be there. The whole point of part 5 was uncovering the identity of Diavolo and where he is, so Diavolo was kinda forced to have the least amount of screentime for a JoJo villain. Yet because of Doppio every scene with him after Risotto gains an extra layer of fear since we know he could snap at any moment. He also has IMMENSE thematic relevancy not just to Part 5, but to JoJo as a whole. Every JoJo villain has had the idea of securing or running away from their date, but Diavolo was the first villain who was OBSESSED with fate. His very existence is a blessed impossibility, he grew up with people who loved him, discovered the stand arrows, gained an immensly powerful stand and became the boss. His stand literally lets him pick and choose what his fate is. Furthermore he also doesn't trust anyone but himself (and Doppio ig) and doesn't allow anyone near him under any circumstance. All of this is a direct opposite to Giorno and the gang. They were all dealt pretty bad hands in life, yet their resolve and love for each other pushed them upwards. Whilst I'm in the camp that Diavolo didn't deserve his fate, it is a thematically satisfying one. The man who always chose his fate, now is forced to meet his fate whether he wants to or not, over and over and over. It also ties back to the religious symbolism. The son of God (DIO) defeats the devil and he faces eternal punishment as a result
@miacasual1263
@miacasual1263 19 күн бұрын
Diavolo and Giorno are both examples of absolutely FANTASTIC characters in a narrative and thematic sense, but feeling kinda lame behaviorally
@KYoshikage123
@KYoshikage123 Ай бұрын
My all time favourite episode of JoJo's is "Let's go eat some Italian food", the one with Tonio Trussardi. It ties in a lot of elements of body horror, especially with the way Okuyasu's body reacts to Tonio's food, and the constant back and forth between "Is Tonio good?" and "Is Tonio bad?" is masterful storytelling. Sure, it plays literally no role in the general story of part 4, but it's still a really good episode, and underrated as hell in my opinion. To skip an episode like that, or the episodes with Mikitaka, Shizuka, Bug-Eaten, sure it won't impact that story, but they're fun episodes to watch, to help grow the characters further and showcase them a lot more as the grow as stand users
@phantomskadi
@phantomskadi Ай бұрын
TRRUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE let's go eat some italian food is the best single episode of jojo's EASY it is so good
@Ultradragon16
@Ultradragon16 Ай бұрын
Stuff like that was why Part 4 is my favorite. I feel like the part also shows why I feel Jojo's works so well with the suspense/thriller and slight horror elements
@woobgamer5210
@woobgamer5210 Ай бұрын
plus with the constant 'evil' stand users around, its good to see stand users not of the main cast who arent evil for once.
@OtherMomo
@OtherMomo Ай бұрын
Dio taking over the opening at the end of part 3 rocked me so hard it literally affected my anime habits from then on, I make sure to watch openings more than once per season, as opposed to how i used to skip them, since at that time streaming anime was relatively new and it was easy to binge shows if younskipped the op and ed
@OtherMomo
@OtherMomo Ай бұрын
Speaking of Ed's, that guitar track at the end was real nice.
@moogobIin
@moogobIin Ай бұрын
Thank you for ordering these by part, it makes watching these videos a thousand times less stressful knowing I won't be spoiled or have to cut ahead to avoid being spoiled.
@gamesingreen8449
@gamesingreen8449 Ай бұрын
Hot take: Jojolion is easily the most underrated part of JoJo’s, and the only reasons why people dislike it are because: 1) It was very different to what came before 2) It was the follow-up to Steel Ball Run, which directly led to comparisons being made 3) The sheer amount of “araki forgots” generated by the poor reading comprehension exhibited by Jojo fans In all honesty, Jojolion is one of my favorite parts of Jojo, and yes, while it might not be perfect, it still doesn’t deserve half the hate it receives.
@justinstrong9595
@justinstrong9595 Ай бұрын
Hey where can I read part 7 and 8 easily?? :) I was reading part 7 in 2021 when the app I used got shut down
@Moayad56
@Moayad56 Ай бұрын
It was my favourite part untill i caught up at the start of the WOU chase and i just couldn't get along with the fuckery and sheer amount of bullshit it had. I thought that the "time untill harvest" flash forward was interesting as hell until it didn't. But it still has my favorite ending in all of jojo
@leetri
@leetri Ай бұрын
@@justinstrong9595 I've read all Jojo on Mangadex, they got good scans and translations. Not sure if they have an app, I just use my phone browser and it works fine.
@gamesingreen8449
@gamesingreen8449 Ай бұрын
@@justinstrong9595 Use mangadex, it's the best
@gamesingreen8449
@gamesingreen8449 Ай бұрын
@@justinstrong9595I recommend you use mangadex, it’s free,and it even has the colored versions
@deconyus3412
@deconyus3412 Ай бұрын
All of the punishment ward arc fights really grew on me (like a flower grown by green baby) Westwood’s fight is the most brutal and cqc focused battles in the whole series. Kenzou is a great concept for a cult leader stand user and has some fantastic scenes of tension. And YoYoMa hits harder if youve been to the south and had a swarm of mosquitos on you
@gzach70
@gzach70 Ай бұрын
Hot take: hamon beat is good
@Dumbass_literally
@Dumbass_literally Ай бұрын
That's a fact
@Stolenbysandw908
@Stolenbysandw908 Ай бұрын
Thats not hot, its a fact
@filipemartinho1753
@filipemartinho1753 Ай бұрын
​@@Stolenbysandw908plenty of facts are considered hot takes. Especially in jojo, where reading comprehension is a rarity
@shoodudeprince3911
@shoodudeprince3911 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: Anasui deserved more recognition from both the characters and the fans. Anasui is one of the best supporting characters in JoJo. He risked his life many times and showed us what he is capable of. Without him, Jolyne would have never reached Pucci at the Cape. Sure he's a simp, but he's so good that Jotaro eventually accepted him and went with his plan.
@serenegenerally
@serenegenerally Ай бұрын
I LOVE Anasui, he’s such an interesting and funny character. That’s why he’s my favorite from part 6 :)
@MasterLu551
@MasterLu551 Ай бұрын
I honestly didn't like him very much until the fight against Made in Heaven when he really starts putting himself on the line for Jolyne's sake
@shoodudeprince3911
@shoodudeprince3911 Ай бұрын
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@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Ай бұрын
he's simp
@mourningstar9850
@mourningstar9850 Ай бұрын
I really like Anasui as being crucial to the plot, but in terms of solo character he falls flat so much. Everybody has a connection to Pucci, and he just showed up and decided to join cause he just likes Jolyne. I would have love to see Anasui deal with his own character arc and growing like all the other secondary characters (FF, Weather, Ermes and Emporio) And Im still pissed off the fact they didnt keep Anasui as female like the original manga.
@potateo7504
@potateo7504 Ай бұрын
Hot take: Stands so far have peaked in part 8 with both abilities and design overall. Part 8 doesn't have the most crazy wacky abilities like 6, but it has the best in ability and overall design imo
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Ай бұрын
The manga coloring ruined them tho
@PrishaAndSeraphina
@PrishaAndSeraphina Ай бұрын
@@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257hot take: you’re wrong
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Ай бұрын
@@PrishaAndSeraphina you saw ever speedking?
@PrishaAndSeraphina
@PrishaAndSeraphina Ай бұрын
@@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 thought the coloring was just fine..I couldn’t rlly see him with any other coloring
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Ай бұрын
@@PrishaAndSeraphina hamon beat literally talked about this
@Qu0ff
@Qu0ff Ай бұрын
Hot Take: Part 6 is top 3 JoJo parts and arguably better than part 7. While Part 7 might have some better aspects, The way Part 6 displays the core theme of the show (fate) is spectacular and is an amazing way to conclude the first story.
@alihorda
@alihorda Ай бұрын
This is truly a hot take lol. Part 6 I enjoyed more than near the end for said theme, but not overally
@TheStickCollector
@TheStickCollector Ай бұрын
I would love to have a hot take, but don't have any. The only one I could think of is that Keicho is underrated and needs more fleshing out/attention. Maybe a spinoff about his 10 year journey to get the arrow and learn about dio.
@authorbat5562
@authorbat5562 Ай бұрын
The Diamond is Unbreakable live-action movie did Keicho a few favors.
@TheStickCollector
@TheStickCollector Ай бұрын
@@authorbat5562 I heard that, but that could be because of the shorter length (aka stopping at his arc), so they can expand more upon this part of the story. I assume you watched that keicho review video? I also saw it and thought it was nifty.
@dorian.badillac
@dorian.badillac Ай бұрын
Bro I was just talking to a friend about this a few days ago, Keicho died way too fast and he's such an interesting character, I like Akira Otoishi, he's fun, but Keicho had so much going on with him, his morals, his relationship with his father and Okuyasu 😔🙏 the Nijimuras, apart from Jotaro and Joseph obviously, are also the only ones in the DIU cast (as far as I remember, sorry) with some connection to Dio because of their father, c'mon. To be honest I just have a some beef with Araki for paying more attention to Koichi and Rohan and leaving Okuyasu aside because when you think about it my boy had SO MUCH to explore about him and his whole family.
@TheStickCollector
@TheStickCollector Ай бұрын
@@dorian.badillac glad he's appreciated somewhat. I tend to gravitate to the "older sibling who is outshone by the younger counterpart" 2 anime episodes max and 2 flash backs over 2 series (diu and gw)? Criminal. Especially the stand too. So much potential gone and it is a miracle whenever someone includes him.
@HSE331
@HSE331 Ай бұрын
@@dorian.badillacKeicho is also a fan favourite so he was extended in the live action a bit
@levidenniston5298
@levidenniston5298 Ай бұрын
I’m sick rn and i’ve been stuck in my dorm room all day. It was bad until this very moment. New Hamon Beat video, let’s gooooo!!!!!!
@Sen-wah
@Sen-wah Ай бұрын
On the topic of removing half of part 4 - I actually love that the first half is lighthearted/not overly serious, especially after how serious part 3 was for the entire run. Having episodes like Tonio, Rohan, and Mikitaka do a good job showing that this quiet little town just has some weird stuff hiding in it until we get to Kira and we see how dark a place like this can get.
@GrantinoBodinoIII
@GrantinoBodinoIII Ай бұрын
Hot Take: There is no strongest JoJo character. I personally believe that it's a four way tie with Giorno with requiem, Johnny with Act 4, Tooru, and Gappy with Go Beyond. Each character can counter another and it's a difficult choice for who you would consider strongest.
@kirbyofthestarsfan
@kirbyofthestarsfan Ай бұрын
3:46 Counterpoint: The Anime's episodes are only about 22 minutes long, meanwhile the OVA's episodes are 30 minutes themselves, which means the OVA had an advantage over it with those extra 8-10 minutes the TV show can't afford. And if we're being serious, it's only about 10 minutes of extra fight that the anime added. Personally I'm a big fan of D'Arby being given two episodes worth of action in the anime, he always felt like one of the more dangerous threats and it was unique giving so much screentime (while other 2 parters in Egypt, not so much).
@stinkle4822
@stinkle4822 Ай бұрын
I've absolutely gotta drop my thoughts on Dragon's Dream while the video's fresh. I like most of the fights before and after it, so I'm not a total hater. Dragon's Dream is one of the very, very few jojo fights I outright dislike. The concept of the feng shui attack is fine, but I could never enjoy the execution. The whole fight feels completely one sided, and Kenzou's ability always amounts to 'you lose'. As soon as he orients himself properly, he is never going to lose this fight. It reminds me of king crimson and how GER is nearly hand crafted to beat it, because it can counter nearly every ability in jojo, and nearly any ability conceivable. Kenzou had a near invincible ability. Maybe if it had some drawback, like needing to charge up, or leaning more into the idea of the dragon keeping the fight equal, just something. As soon as this man points his feet in some direction, you lose. How is he beaten? He stands wrong by accident. As far as I'm concerned, Kenzou could've stood completely still that entire fight, a gun would've dropped into his hands after enough lucky time passed, and he could shoot the group dead with his eyes closed. It's especially unfortunate because it could've been a great fight for FF, taking full advantage of her biology and abilities. She could've split herself into multiple bodies again, or taken over more live hosts, overwhelming Kenzou and throwing off his feng shui since he'd have to reorient constantly. Unfortunately, we're left with a compilation of FF getting absolutely dunked on until Anasui steps in and makes sure Kenzou doesn't end the entire series. I really hope this is coherent, because it's probably one the fights I feel strongest about, despite my disliking. Also if you touch the dragon orb your arms turn into heat seeking missiles, 10/10
@filipemartinho1753
@filipemartinho1753 Ай бұрын
The only part I like is the stand itself. The bickering with Kenzou is funny, and thematically, having the dragon try to even the playing field I think fits the whole martial arts thing. Other than that, not only are the abilities very ??? FF's solution of magic water mirror is also ?????? It's all very confusing. I know, I know, it's jojo, it's made to be weird, but I genuinely struggled in understanding what exactly the stand was, and how to go around it, since it really feels like a playground fight between two kids who change the rules to not lose
@stinkle4822
@stinkle4822 Ай бұрын
@@mrfact03s Kenzou definitely isn't super concentrated, considering his own stand is constantly pissing him off, and he couldn't notice his own legs getting shattered for a minute. Even if he has to love around to take full advantage of feng shui, it still makes him effectively invulnerable. The fight in concept is fine, but the execution doesn't work for me. Jumpin Jack Flash is another fight I'm not super into, but I can appreciate the wacky jojo stuff like the vapour suits and exploding rats. Kenzou's fight doesn't have any of that zest, and it amounts to his ability just feeling like if he walks around he wins
@Ore_Jo
@Ore_Jo Ай бұрын
Hot take: I personally believe that part 6 is the best written of the parts, and Pucci is actually my favorite JoFoe. My 3 favorite stands are from that part, and the other stands were very unique and likeable. The cast was great, my only gripe being Ermes(not a bad character, just not my favorite). Part 6 had a really deep feel to it, more so than the other parts, imo. Heavy Weather was an incredible arc that really made me feel for Pucci and Weather, while challenging my sense of morality. Pucci was very philosophical, and had some great quotes I love, while also having a cool design and stands. The ending was sad, but a great conclusion to the old universe. Jolyne was the 2nd JoJo to die in her own part, with the only other being Jonathan, which I feel brought it full circle. A character who wasn’t the mc being the one to defeat Pucci was also unique, and executed extremely well. Then the end with Emporio meeting his deceased friends again, as reincarnated people free of burden was really touching. I could probably go on, but parts 3 and 6, are my personal favorites, for very different reasons. Edit: Stone Ocean is the only part I watched, in addition to reading about 90-95% of the manga, so I may like it more having digested it twice, as opposed to only watching the first 5 part’s anime. I also haven’t finished SBR, I’m on Catch the Rainbow, and as much as I do like it, I take a long time to read manga, due to me spending too long admiring Araki’s art.
@memelord4372
@memelord4372 Ай бұрын
literally how have i never heard the phrase jofoe i love it lol. And I also love pucci he is a little underrated i think, he is very strong and scary with an amazing aura and design.
@Lynx-rf7nq
@Lynx-rf7nq 27 күн бұрын
Fugo being a spy is actually referenced in AllStarBattle+R. If you put him against anyone in Passione they describe fugo as a foe due to him being a spy. Thought it was just dialogue to describe why they might be fighting and it was cool to find out it was actually the concept
@SyntheticEgg
@SyntheticEgg Ай бұрын
man just having this video turned on raised the temperature in my room by like 10 degrees, goddamn
@mikehu2451
@mikehu2451 25 күн бұрын
Bro's getting magician's red
@Nikolaas-qv1dy
@Nikolaas-qv1dy Ай бұрын
Hot Take: cheap trick could've prevented the rumbling from aot
@CaptainFrank2250
@CaptainFrank2250 Ай бұрын
Bro thinks he’s Chewiedog1
@richardnixon2587
@richardnixon2587 Ай бұрын
Nigga thats not a hot mf take
@ZACHTHEYOUTUBER
@ZACHTHEYOUTUBER Ай бұрын
@@CaptainFrank2250 u da goat ç
@MasterLu551
@MasterLu551 Ай бұрын
Green, Green Grass of Home would be even more effective
@bravewryy6781
@bravewryy6781 Ай бұрын
Wtf how do you even think of this? 😭
@cromchgang316
@cromchgang316 Ай бұрын
Hot take, I'm blown away by the lack of part 8 hot takes being shot down in this video
@willistheking7206
@willistheking7206 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: Tooru is an amazing villain, and the only reason people hate him is because they refuse to analyze him like the other villains
@RossLawliet
@RossLawliet Ай бұрын
(in the anime) In part 6, when Jolyne gets sent to the detention ward. A prisoner throws his crap at Jolyne and manages to hit her. Based on the layout provided, only one prisoner could have thrown their crap (the one directly across from her). The issue is the bars on the door provide little to no possibility of the crap hitting her. Given the force required to make such a toss, that prisoner is probably a random stand user. Now its possible I'm making a mountain out of a ant hill. I believe this issue needs addressing in the next hot takes.
@LuisSanchez-kt7ic
@LuisSanchez-kt7ic 18 күн бұрын
Hot take: Heaven's Falling Down is one of the best Jojo's openings. It sounds and it looks amazing.
@DaWoWzer
@DaWoWzer 29 күн бұрын
hearing modern anime fans or really just fans of anything these days refer to any episode that doesn't directly move the main plot forward as filler is infuriating.
@Paindansleau
@Paindansleau Ай бұрын
Hot take: the cactus fight in part 2 is better then some part 3 fights
@ieatmice751
@ieatmice751 Ай бұрын
It’s like 5 seconds long, I literally forgot it was even in the story last time I rewatched it
@aleksandarvuletic8291
@aleksandarvuletic8291 Ай бұрын
Hot take : I belive it was incredibly stupid for adaptation to skip the 77 rings challenge from part 1 because its a really great concept that show just how strong was bruford and tarkus even without their zombie strength
@siobhannicolson5566
@siobhannicolson5566 Ай бұрын
my hot take about the ova is that it gave one of the best abridged series lines ever; "WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE D'ARBY??? WHAT'S IT GOING TO FUCKING BE????"
@stinkle4822
@stinkle4822 Ай бұрын
Hot take, I'm gonna blast my head off if part 9 doesn't have any stand/reference of Virtual Insanity or Jamiroquai
@emulatorisland7417
@emulatorisland7417 Ай бұрын
Get that shell ready.
@vicentealarcon4616
@vicentealarcon4616 Ай бұрын
why?
@dutch_asocialite
@dutch_asocialite Ай бұрын
If this isn't addressed in the next hot takes video, I'm unsubscribing from this channel
@EMan-xj5cz
@EMan-xj5cz Ай бұрын
Well, jojo has had a Jamiroquai reference before soo it’s not completely off the table
@stinkle4822
@stinkle4822 Ай бұрын
Part 9 is the first part I'm following as it's released, and I Looooove virtual insanity. I think Born This Way gave me the most hope that it could happen
@NightWing1800
@NightWing1800 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: Skipping parts is okay. Araki is a very skilled writer and he's able to make very different stories tonally. Part 4 is extremely different from part 3. It would be normal to say "I like slice of life but not typical shonen anime like Naruto." because different things appeal to different people. I think thats true in Jojo's, too. The parts function as stand alone stories, even though they build on each other. I wasnt a fan of part 3 or part 6, not because they were bad parts or because they were sloppily written. It just didnt resonate with me in the same way as other parts.
@valco9779
@valco9779 Ай бұрын
I wish that we had a spin-off of giorno as the boss, it could have been an opportunity to flesh out his character
@FirethornYT
@FirethornYT Ай бұрын
17:12 They got mad about Kakyoin and Rohan but didn't notice Dio was there next to Johnathan????
@adampelletier7102
@adampelletier7102 Ай бұрын
I feel like George trying to reunite with Johnny would have been better if it wasn't right when Johnny was a front runner for the race and this about to win a lot of money. Kinda just makes me think of those stories/memes about family members returning after someone wins the lottery.
@TheAccesorizedPigeon
@TheAccesorizedPigeon Ай бұрын
Hot take: a batch release isn’t really all that bad, as long as they don’t make you wait so long in between like Netflix did (decent idea, terrible execution)
@purblema
@purblema Ай бұрын
hot take on Part 5: The story being a back-to-back fight gauntlet hurts the themes and the characters more than it helps them. To me the most generous reading of VA is about sacrifice being necessary for the complex, seemingly inscrutable and set in stone Present State of Things to change. However, the most prevalent, or basically the only way of showing sacrifice outside of a couple arcs is through wild suicidal gambits in fights - and at some point it stops registering as a tough choice a character makes through their 'resolve', instead reading as just a regular beat, "this is what this story does for its 3rd act break of a fight, someone dramatically mutilates themselves". For the secondary characters this decision is at least usually tied with some kind of personal conflict (wanting respect, superstition, loyalty and trust, etc), but for Giorno it's just A Move He Does that happens to represent how hard he wants things. I think that's why Bruno generally sticks more with ppl as a character than Giorno - because most of the crucial decisions in the story that AREN'T defined by the arc of a shonen fight, are left up to him and his struggle with the fate he's given as a capo (keeping secrets, not giving up that he's dying, switching from "reform" to "revolt", as he enlists his family into a suicidal mission, even though this goes against everything he's tried to prevent from happening), while Giorno (except the beginning, a couple quieter scenes, and, like, white album/king crimson), despite some subtle traits, is kind of just left as a mechanical plot function that repeats the same thematic beat in the same fight structure, while insisting that it's actually awe inspiring or smth. imo if VA was more of a proper mafia politics story, or at least made Giorno have to trudge through more choices that weren't "give up or beautifully gore myself" and showcase more of his cunning/ruthlessness/leadership outside of fight strategy, I think both its themes and protagonist would've resonated better, even if Giorno still showed no hesitation. ig TJL is here to rectify that 0_0
@LON009
@LON009 Ай бұрын
I find it sad how some people treat manga, anime, films, games, media that has shown that they can be art forms, as simple products to be consumed (and consumed as fast as possible, hence the usual complaints about filler). Like, yeah, it's entertainment, but for the people that created it, it's something more. "A celebration of humanity", after reading Jojo for almost a decade, I can agree about that.
@kaneraymond6711
@kaneraymond6711 Ай бұрын
ive never understood the excuse "i couldnt get into jojo i dont like the artstyle" its for the most part not that much differnt from other anime and manga
@BillyBigBro
@BillyBigBro Ай бұрын
i think it would be really interesting for you to do a stand alone video on the themes of individualism, patriotism, entrepreneurship (napkin), e.g. all the ideas that encapsulate America and how they are all twisted into a villain as twisted as funny valentine!
@ballastmcgee2314
@ballastmcgee2314 Ай бұрын
my own personal gripe with the dragon's dream fight is that in the manga positioning is so important to the fight for obvious reasons, but between the way the location is set up and cutting to other characters to get the ability explained it ends up losing all sense of direction for me and just feels like things are happening out of nowhere. however, this becomes much clearer in the anime
@swinepaste
@swinepaste Ай бұрын
Speedwagon is also vital to the series plot for another reason: He's completely disconnected from the Joestar bloodline, and very explicitly never has kids of his own either, but he still has an important legacy stretching throughout the entire continuity. In a series that concerns itself with bloodlines so much, it's good to have a counterbalance, a character who shows that having that kind of legacy is possible even without blood. Araki could have theoretically used Shizuka in a similar way if she had been made into a proper JoJo at some point, which is a sadly missed opportunity. Not to mention that he's an obvious foil to Dio, as a character who also comes from awful circumstances but is able to overcome them and be a virtuous person when the opportunity presents itself.
@nilvana7540
@nilvana7540 Ай бұрын
that one panel of Avdol has funded Hamon Beat's whole career
@haoshydranoid9462
@haoshydranoid9462 Ай бұрын
6:28 I think there's just ALOT of hate for filler/non-essential story bits nowadays. People seem to have gotten themselves accustomed to rushing through a series instead of taking their time to enjoy and become immersed in the world, characters, and story. I understand that filler can be annoying at times but other times I see it as us the viewers being given more time with the characters and the world around them. It depends on how it's done. Filler can be bad but at the same time I think the problem can also stem from the viewer having a lack of interest and passion for a series. I think people have become very impatient with stories now, even with cases like this where it's not even filler, just moments from part 4 that aren't HUGE that involve something like an important character dying every few seconds or something.
@ToruJojolion
@ToruJojolion Ай бұрын
Hot take: if the anime adaptation features toru in the background of the tg university hospital like Kira from part 4, he would be liked a lot more as the reason most people dislike him is his abruptness in the story
@stinkle4822
@stinkle4822 Ай бұрын
It would definitely help, but I feel that most people's problem is that he's not much of an overarching villain. He's technically the 'leader' of the local rock humans, but he doesn't feel much more significant. Diavolo was the leader of the stand mafia and his influence was always shown off pretty well, Toru just feels like he's the last villain of part, so he has the strongest stand by principle. Wonder of U goes hard though, top 10 stands easily
@sillysalad0
@sillysalad0 Ай бұрын
Hows this a hot take exactly
@boinqity4621
@boinqity4621 Ай бұрын
@@stinkle4822 exactly. wonder of u is sick and toru is a good villain, he just doesnt feel like much of a main villain. hopefully the adaptation follows part 4 and araki continues to be open to different interpretations of his stories. even just alluding to some big bad leader of the rock humans or at least making them seem like more of a team and less like a bunch of 2 bit gangsters would do wonders
@pegyfoukara1937
@pegyfoukara1937 Ай бұрын
The one with Pucci was crazy tbh. Since Pucci is actually one of the best if not the best written villain in Jojo. Everything about him makes perfect sense
@uraccountcrashed8845
@uraccountcrashed8845 Ай бұрын
I can't believe you didn't mention that Speedwagon was constantly bent out of shape that he couldn't help fight like Johnathan and Zeppeli were, and when Zep's arm was frozen, did what little he could to help thaw him.
@brettt5138
@brettt5138 Ай бұрын
Donatello Versus is not only the best son of Dio in part 6, but also the best and most interesting side antagonist. Him and his stand are incredibly underrated and have insane potential. He betrays Pucci, and becomes one of the only characters to attempt to achieve heaven. Donatello is also the reason that Weather was able to get his memories back and activate Heavy Weather. His stand is also criminally underrated, as Underworld has some of the most potential in the entire series, literally being able to dig massive caverns in minutes, and summon past events instantaneously. He is incredibly powerful and interesting, but for some reason him and his stand stay the most underrated in the franchise.
@thanatoast
@thanatoast Ай бұрын
My hot take is that Tooru from Jojolion is actually a really good villain, and he's just considered worse than the others because the conflict from Jojolion isn't entirely centered around stopping the Rock Humans. Araki really wanted to play with the Rock Humans' lack of humanity and their parasitic nature and Tooru is the ultimate expression of that theme.
@filipemartinho1753
@filipemartinho1753 Ай бұрын
I just liked Wonder of U as a villain more. A stand villain is not only really badass, but also really speaks to themes in Jojolion, Stands as curses and blessings. Just like Milagro man and Les Feuilles, Wonder of U could have simply been Calamity incarnate and not a stand in relative control of calamity. Tooru really lacks in villainess I guess... he doesnt have as many memorable lines or moments, and is kind of pathetic. The only really cool part of Tooru was his demise ironically. But he's also pretty over hated, I do see why someone would like him
@diavolo6433
@diavolo6433 Ай бұрын
I think it would be very interesting if you did videos covering what you believe the themes and the takeaway from each part, both because it could create places for some good discussion in the comment section and because I still see a lot of people treating Jojo's like it has very surface level writing with barely none, if any, deeper ideas behind the plot
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 23 сағат бұрын
I agree!
@Jokin_Jake
@Jokin_Jake Ай бұрын
12:30 to be fair Dragon's Dream is still really confusing even if you take your time to read it. I love part 6 but even I have a hard time understanding how the detaching arm attack works. I don't even have a good way to describe it. Writing off complaints as "JoJo fans having terrible reading comprehension" just sounds pretentious. I'm not saying it isn't explained in the text, but I think people just wish it was explained in a different way that was easier to understand.
@Lihzard
@Lihzard Ай бұрын
The manga for that was rough (especially when you read the physical black and white books) but the anime made it so much more entertaining
@Emmariscobar
@Emmariscobar Ай бұрын
Yeah, I think they definitively could have explained that part of DD way better. As far as I can tell, I think the way it works is that touching the Dragon automatically "redeems" (so to speak) all your good/bad luck at once by using your floating limbs to micromanage everything that's about to happen. Facing a bad direction at that moment caused you to get WOU'd for a few moments. Facing a safe direction at that moment causes that same thing to happen to your enemy instead.
@LEONOX233
@LEONOX233 Ай бұрын
@Emmariscobar That's wrong, Dragon's Dream follows the concept of Feng shui, which says that there is a flow of positive and negative energy that shapes the natural universe (Feng shui literally translates to "wind-water"), so if one can predict and visualize the directions of these flows, they could use this knowledge to have extreme good luck or to lessen the effects of the negative flow, as Annasui explains, if Feng shui affects the universe on such a large scale, it can also apply to individuals and their bodies. Dragon's Dream takes this concept to its extreme conclusion; the compass in Kenzo's hand shows his "lucky" direction, so as long as he follows it, he's immune to direct damage, while the orb shows his opponent's "unlucky" direction, so if someone touches it, the orb forces them to follow that direction, creating an event of extreme misfortune.
@leithaziz2716
@leithaziz2716 Ай бұрын
I like to call this the "explaining King Crimson in Part 5 if you only have the Manga panels to work with" problem.
@thechugg4372
@thechugg4372 Ай бұрын
15:36 THANK YOU SO MUCH So many time travel stories get HATED because of shit like this and it's always the dumbest argument ever made.
@hhhh9740
@hhhh9740 Ай бұрын
Hot take Jobin is the best villain
@xXdarkdekuXx
@xXdarkdekuXx Ай бұрын
I firmly believe that Jotaro has been able to stop time the whole time, rather Star Platinum can. But Jotaro cannot consciously use it, so he does not notice. I like to think when giornos stand says "I have abilites even my user does not know about" or something like that.
@doublel1503
@doublel1503 Ай бұрын
That part about Soundman was on point
@rasmusirlind8829
@rasmusirlind8829 Ай бұрын
my hot take is that the d'arby jotaro is genuinely the most entertaining (personally) fight in stardust crusaders bit ironic considering it barely involves their stands
@fugonee
@fugonee Ай бұрын
🗣 Part 8 Shafted‼️
@WolfOfWalfas
@WolfOfWalfas Ай бұрын
Another Hamon Beat banger! Since none of my takes were included, I suppose there's no harm in me trying again, lol. From what I've seen online, a lot of people who start with the anime find the transition to reading the manga difficult, and usually cite something along the lines of "the powers are too complex" or that "there's so much going-on in the panels that it's hard to tell what's happening". I'm not going to dismiss those claims, as I have the same problem with most western superhero comics, but I find Araki's art and paneling are so well-drawn that it's actually very easy for me to tell what's going-on. In-fact, JoJolion has by-far my favorite Stand battles in the series, despite the absence of movement or sound. Probably my hottest-take: the Stone Ocean batch-releases were better than the previous seasons' weekly releases. As someone who watches dub, the wait between part 4 and part 5's dubs (I started watching JoJo in mid-2019 and caught-up just after DiU's dub finished airing) was downright painful. All the while, I was getting spoilers left, right and center from everyone watching the sub as it aired. There's also the fact that I prefer binge-watching over weekly watching, but even I will admit that that's entirely subjective. The main points I hear against the batch-release formula are that "the time between batches was too long" (which I will say I agree with) and that the batch-release "killed the hype". Personally, though, I don't care about community hype whatsoever. I'm perfectly fine to enjoy JoJo's in private from the comfort of my own home, and I honestly think Netflix were right to assume most fans would feel the same way. (JOJOLION SPOILERS BELOW!) I see a lot of complaints that JoJolion gets "stale" due to most of the fights being against long-range automatic Stands. And maybe I'm biased, but those have always been my favorite type of Stand battles, so I didn't mind the abundance of them whatsoever. On the topic of JoJolion, I always see everyone saying "the main villain sucks" and that "he's the worst part of JoJolion". And while I do agree that Toru is less developed than other JoJo big-bads (not that I dislike him, however), I would hesitate to call Toru the part's "main" villain. Jobin is a more active threat for a much longer span of the series. The way I see it, he's the main-villain (and is one of the best JJBA main-villains when viewed through that lens) and Toru is more of the "man behind the man" trope.
@yetanotherreviewchannel4805
@yetanotherreviewchannel4805 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: Weather Report is underutilized in Stone Ocean. I'm specifically talking about the person, not the stand or stand's abilities. Weather Report, in spite of his direct ties to Pucci and role as a main character, does not appear all that much. He has very little interactions with the rest of the cast. For example, outside of that throwaway panel of the cast looking at Foo Fighter's toes, FF has no scenes with Weather Report, as the one she sees during the fight with Pucci turns out to just be one of Pucci's illusions. The same can be said for Ermes, especially in the anime where I don't think she shares a single scene with Weather Report until his death, which makes her reaction to said death feel hollow. As a whole, I feel this main group of characters is very lacking in that sense of camaraderie I get from other parts, and Weather Report is the biggest reason why. The other thing I wanted to say regarding Weather Report is his personality shift after getting back his memory disc. I get he went through a lot of trauma and had become immensely bitter as a result, but why does he go around attacking innocent people. The scene of him shocking the two girls was particularly bizarre, and not in a good way. Honestly, I'm glad the anime removed that scene because it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. I remember the flashbacks with Perla establishing him as an upstanding guy, but now he's hitting on random women and using his stand to force them in giving him a massage? I get wanting to go after the racist detective and Pucci, but everything else felt out of character.
@HSE331
@HSE331 Ай бұрын
its the worst cast by far
@ieatmice751
@ieatmice751 Ай бұрын
@@HSE331nah I’m the biggest Foo Fighters and Anasui fan on the planet so I’ve got to disagree
@FieryMeltman
@FieryMeltman Ай бұрын
Gotta agree. I really like Weather, but that scene of him shocking those women always felt out of character to me. He may want to die, but it's explained in the flashback that he wasn't trying to turn all those people into snails, so I don't know why he suddenly became so callous to innocent people. I get that his stand was ultimately instrumental to Pucci's defeat, and that's a good story beat, but I wish he himself had more screentime.
@sarexui634
@sarexui634 Ай бұрын
Hamon Beat going from the screen to the ring to the pen to the king!
@Lava_Lazy
@Lava_Lazy Ай бұрын
Part 6 is peak I will die on that hill
@MilkJugA_
@MilkJugA_ Ай бұрын
your analysis of gyro was amazing
@FrMZTsarmiral
@FrMZTsarmiral Ай бұрын
Damn, some people really can't appreciate a story without only focusing on the outcome of the plot. Some of those hot takes are so "western shonen fan" they hurt to read lmao.
@BeaneCat
@BeaneCat Ай бұрын
Thanks for doing another episode! Love hearing you talk about JoJo. And you immediately gave me new appreciation for Speedwagon!
@pokemonlorekeeper151
@pokemonlorekeeper151 Ай бұрын
Hot take: Jolyne and Josuke are the best JoJo's since they don't get a bs power up and use a more creative fighting style based on their abilities like Josukes homing bullets or Jolyne making a net so she could save Ermes and wouldn't be trapped by Foo Fighters
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Ай бұрын
Jolyne lost the fight and Josuke didn't kill or defeat the villain with his own hand
@zumberburg6527
@zumberburg6527 Ай бұрын
​@@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 What does that have to do with the comment? Just because a character doesn't beat the villain doesn't mean they are less interesting or creative.
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Ай бұрын
@@zumberburg6527 That's the results that they didn't receive powerups. The powerups are solely used to end the villain's life, Jotaro juse gains timestop last second just to finish Dio off, Giorno and Diavolo were straight up fighting over *the powerup* tool The relation my comment had to do with the original one is the "bs powerups"
@jorgito93700
@jorgito93700 Ай бұрын
Yeah i agree, Stone Free is my favorite stand in the series for that reason
@primusvsunicron1
@primusvsunicron1 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: DIO getting a Stand was his own undoing
@MadderMaDDog
@MadderMaDDog Ай бұрын
My Hot take is that Jouske should have defeated Kira instead of Jotaro. I understand that Jouske was hurt and couldn’t get to Kira. And Kira was about to use Bites the Dust again. I felt robed of that fact since the other protagonist got to defeat their main villain except for jolyne but at least Emporio was a part original character but still.
@nezeund
@nezeund Ай бұрын
Imo kira is not a "josuke antagonist" but a "morioh antagonist". The entire gang cornering kira instead of josuke was really fitting
@MrLegendofBob
@MrLegendofBob Ай бұрын
Thanks for the last explanation, it was very enlightening. Always love watching your videos, since I believe you are one of the few who does his research and states his sources concerning JoJo, and it helps being closer to the way Araki thinks when I make my own JoJo OC contents (for myself and my friends).
@lord_markus81
@lord_markus81 Ай бұрын
Here's my hot take Diavolo is a character with most wasted potential (and thats why i consider him worst main villain) Araki gave us the whole explanation, how a person with a split personality have 2 souls in 1 body, and both Diavolo and Doppio are different individual souls. Also, we know that a stand power is a "reflection" of its users soul, so technically, a human with 2 personalities have 2 souls, and therefore can have 2 stands. I dont think that its possible to use both stands at the same time, but still - one human with 2 full-fledged stands is something we haven't seen in jojo (i dont count stands that can change their users like Anubis, Superfly or Cheap Trick, because these stand abilities are tied in concept of changing users) Remember how Araki build up the secret of The World in part 3, when Kakyoin died just to figure out what kind of stand power Dio had? Imagine now how Diavolo could have 2 stand powers that synergize with each other, making an absurdly overpower stand combo, and part 5 gang would be like "There is no way one stand is capable of doing it, there must be something else..." But instead we got Doppio, who doesnt have a stand, and barely knows about stands in general (btw Epitaph is a sub-stand of King Crimson, its not Doppios stand)
@randomsmashplays3564
@randomsmashplays3564 Ай бұрын
the issue with this idea of the two of them having distinct stands that they can synergize with is that it breaks the idea of doppio being unaware that he's the boss, which is an EXTREMELY critical part of the character. doppio doesn't work if he thinks he's that important, his entire character rides on thinking of himself as a trusted messenger. and also, while yes epitaph is part of king crimson, it's still pretty clearly implied that diavolo having two abilities is a narrative mirror of him having two souls. if you wanted "two stands that synergize," congrats, you got it, epitaph compliments king crimson's main ability extremely well.
@ToruJojolion
@ToruJojolion Ай бұрын
Torus way more wasted imo, he could be top 5 if he was foreshadowed instead of just “being the leader”
@Tolubakare04
@Tolubakare04 Ай бұрын
Not really a hot take, I definitely agree to this. Either him or tooru is the worse imo
@boinqity4621
@boinqity4621 Ай бұрын
i was so disappointed when i learned that last bit. the idea of someone with multiple personalities having a different stand that fits each could be so cool. idk if i would call him "the worst" mainly because i like every jojo villain, but i agree that there was definitely wasted potential
@MrShifty1
@MrShifty1 Ай бұрын
I honestly think it would have been kind of lame for Doppio to have his own stand. Imo his scenes are interesting because he is a ticking time bomb, not a threat by himself, but at any moment Diavolo could take over and everyone around him is basically fucked.
@heitorsantoslima9289
@heitorsantoslima9289 21 күн бұрын
Hot take: Jotato is easily the worst part of part 3, because 8 times out of 10 he solves his problems by punching the hell out of things or being a complete sociopath. He sucks up all the charisma of every scene he is in.
@primusvsunicron1
@primusvsunicron1 Ай бұрын
Hot Take: the Part 3 flashbacks in the anime adaptations of Parts 5 and 6 should have been animated with the Part 3 anime art style with the different art styles telling us that it’s in the past
@ryanharvey2662
@ryanharvey2662 20 күн бұрын
Hot Take: Heavy Weather would have been more interesting if it wasn't just people turning into snails and maybe had more individual transformations. The snails feel like a unfortunate joke that got old fast personally. Love the vids!
@elviswilliams1131
@elviswilliams1131 Ай бұрын
12:31 Agreed dragon's dream is an interesting fight
@tonitoguey
@tonitoguey Ай бұрын
12:25 finally bro😭, those 2 fights are underrated and some of my favorite from part 6
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