Responding to Mukluk's Unhinged Rant About Me

[@NikeDnT]

Here is Darens original video. PLEASE watch it before watching mine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ7Qi3ucntiBd7M

[@matthewtohoro3971]

wow, embedding darens's video? the hypocrisy

[@NikeDnT]

@@matthewtohoro3971 im shameless

[@angelseeker]

Oh right... "if you don't apologise and agree with me you are wrong and a bad person"... interesting...

[@NikeonaBike]

if i said anything factually wrong in the video ill retract it.

[@Sonofawarpig]

@@NikeonaBike so is this your 10th alt account to say how amazing you are in the comments, or trash others?

[@NikeDnT]

@@Sonofawarpig i have two channels. not sure what the accusation is here

[@spartaxoxo3509]

@@Sonofawarpig It's also probably how he gets some of the likes on his comments too.

[@ReapeX]

@@spartaxoxo3509 that doesn't make any sense

[@Kronosxviii1]

Imagine actually starting a conversation with someone instead raging like a child by making a 41 minute video.

[@NikeonaBike]

not much to be gained conversing with someone who starts their video personally attacking me viciously for 10 minutes, is there?

[@omegaxtrigun]

@@NikeonaBikeHe did not attack you lol. What a joke.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@omegaxtrigun I don't know what else you would call spending 10 minutes smearing me and character assassinating me full of lies and twisted half truths. Frankly I find people like you incredibly offensive, because you wouldn't tolerate someone saying about you what he said about me, yet you can't bring yourself to admit it. I don't know if its bias or stupidity, but your interpretation of events is indicative of a very narrow viewpoint.

[@danfelder8062]

"I wasn't lying because I think it's funny, I was just PRETENDING because it was a JOKE." Dude, this is just sad.

[@NikeDnT]

if any of my claims in the video are factually incorrect ill retract them

[@rraconteur__]

@@NikeDnT Just talk to Muk instead of making claims? In todays world everyone can make claims out of public records. The internet is not a neutral space and you will always be living in a bubble. How do you think we got in this whole human mess with parties hating each other? Exactly, by claiming some public information (which can be true or false) and without talking to each other. Do better.

[@NikeDnT]

@@rraconteur__ I don't need to talk to him. I know what he's doing and I know why. Maybe Muk should have contacted me instead of recording this video attacking me viciously for no reason.

[@Oryyyt]

@@NikeDnT tsk tsk tsk👎

[@NikeonaBike]

@@Oryyyt Did you tsk muk after he said those vile things about me for 10 minutes?

[@caymrend]

i really apprechiate muk. not talking to each other and spreading not so nice stuff is baaaaa. sorry, need to unsubb as well.

[@NikeonaBike]

I said zero lies. If you point out a single one, I'll correct it immediately.

[@spartaxoxo3509]

@@NikeonaBike You literally didn't go to him to get the actual information. All of this is in bad faith. So bottom feeder is gonna bottom feed. What else are you good at? Absolutely nothing.

[@ezaf5989]

@@spartaxoxo3509look how mad you are over internet stranger drama. Are you mentally well? Mukluks community has been exposed as being super toxic good job

[@NikeDnT]

@@spartaxoxo3509 i didnt need to go to him to get any information, everything is a matter of public record: his stats, the placement of the embed on her site, vallun's racism, guildjen being unpartnered for racism. its all public info.

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@NikeDnTI was looking into it and not seeing anything.

[@NymphiusE]

smells like envy here.

[@NikeDnT]

If I said anything factually incorrect let me know and ill retract

[@danfelder8062]

@@NikeDnT You have been repeatedly shown why you are factually incorrect since this video posted. Mukluk brought the receipts. You contradicted yourself multiple times in your own video. Everyone knows you're in the wrong. As you said, the solution here is to admit you're wrong and apologize and thank people for calling you out on it. Take your own advice.

[@NikeDnT]

@@danfelder8062 sorry that's incorrect. You can go to sullygnome (muk's preferred analytics site) and look at his average viewer chart from before during and after his embed, and you can see he gained between 25-75% additional fake viewers from it. That's the bare fact of the matter, and undeniable. I know muk didn't want to actually explain that but you yourself can go there now and double check. Additionally, muk now admits the embed was against TOS which is chiefly why he removed it, so he concedes that point. His claim is that it was legal when he started, which is incorrect as it had been part of the TOS since November '23, well before he started. He was just unaware. Ignorance may be a good defense initially, but not when people tell you its wrong and you double down. As far as contradictions, not sure what you're referring to.

[@ezaf5989]

Grown man with an anime pfp lmaoooo😂

[@doct4rdoc894]

@@NikeDnT He didnt admit its against TOS he said if it saves him from this DRAMA he will just delete it...

[@dante8506]

All this drama over an embed.....srsly dude, muk is harmless if anything he drives players into the game keeping it alive, in the meantime you make crappy videos about "the serious hacking problem" hell, balancing is more of an issue. I don't follow muk but sure prefer his approach, let the envy go is not his fault you got kicked out of the gw2 program. Envy is a very strong poison, there are better things to do in life.

[@NikeDnT]

actually that program is a serious hacking problem.

[@philadams493]

well nike im unsubscribing you, sorry

[@NikeonaBike]

Take it easy, have a good one. Next time I find out people are cheating, lying about it, attacking me, and hanging with racists I'll keep it to myself so I can keep subscribers like you around.

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@NikeonaBikeKeep making false accusations dipshit.

[@danielbreedlove]

Bruh. The pettiness here is insane. Grow up.

[@NikeonaBike]

would you be happy if someone said the stuff about you that he said about me?

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@NikeonaBikeYou can't sit there and go after him then be upset that you get called out for your bullshit. Ain't the way it works. Also stop accusing vallun of racism. Saying he's racist in the top comment of the don't be racist video because he said fatherless. That isn't a racial term. You're just looking for something. And his comment that you posted from discord looks like it's heavily faked. There's no guarantee that's actually him.

[@JonahRobison-v2l]

@@NikeonaBike you started it

[@NikeonaBike]

@JonahRobison-v2l thats factually incorrect

[@JonahRobison-v2l]

@@NikeonaBike you named dropped him on twitter

[@mojojojo123]

Unsubscribing on both Darens and you, truly a shame

[@NikeDnT]

if I said anything factually incorrect about this situation I'll retract it. Let me know.

[@petrikillos]

@@NikeDnT You have multiple replies in this very same comment section saying how he's "lying about it" when it was literally above board and he said it multiple times, "attacking you" when all he did was defend himself, and "hanging with racists" which is a bold faced lie that you just had to spin to make your point look better. Go on, get deleting.

[@NikeDnT]

@@petrikillos 1. the stats that you havent bothered to look up show that he had 25 -75% fake viewers at any given time. this is indisputable fact. him lying about it wont change it. 2. if you want evidence of vallun's problematic statements there are some linked in the description of this video. hardly a lie.

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@NikeDnT50% difference in fake views? And you think that's legitimate? You're foolish.

[@IzzyStrife]

Talk about unhinged. You were better off staying silent instead of being a drama farmer.

[@NikeDnT]

If I said anything factually incorrect let me know and ill retract

[@NikeonaBike]

@@dreamrsix5366 he spends a huge first portion of his video attacking me in a smear campaign to make you doubt the (proven correct) facts about his scummy embedding practice. Whether you are gulled by that or not is up to you.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@dreamrsix5366 The one I'm responding to starts with a 10 minute smear of me. I don't understand how and why you're commenting on this video if you havent even watched it to understand the context. and no, I never cared about the embed on his own site because 1: it follows TOS and 2: it doesn't give him any noticeable amount of viewers.

[@TheThomasBarry]

Bottom feeding behavior right here.

[@NikeDnT]

If I said anything factually incorrect let me know and ill retract. Coming to my channel to defend your parasocial streamer is pretty bottom feeding so takes one to know one i guess

[@TheThomasBarry]

@@NikeDnT I don't follow Muk. Barely even follow GW2 anymore. But when shit is in a room everyone can smell it. Everyone even remotely tuned in to GW2 can smell you.

[@spartaxoxo3509]

@@NikeDnT You sound thirsty. Go get some water. Touch grass while you're at it.

[@NikeDnT]

@@TheThomasBarry sure buddy you just happened to find this video a few minutes after he posted his video and yapped about it on stream. merely coincidence.

[@TheThomasBarry]

@@NikeDnT Didn't say otherwise. My point stands. You can dismiss and attack and deflect and play the victim all day, it won't change anything.

[@Kronosxviii1]

Unsubbed for fake BS, inciting harassment and ragebait within the community.

[@NikeDnT]

what part was fake?

[@Krdw610]

@@NikeDnT The entire thing is a pathetically stupid attempt to be mad at someone over nothing.

[@Ioan-RaulCăilean]

@@NikeDnT so you not countering the harassment and ragebait good to knon

[@NikeDnT]

@@Ioan-RaulCăilean what harassment?

[@SanaOsniva]

This video is a joke

[@NikeDnT]

If i said anything factually incorrect in it, let me know and ill retract it.

[@MuklukYoutube]

Hey Nike. I don't like drama. Ever since the two times you attacked me on the partner discord I have attempted to keep my head down and just work on my projects. I've declined being on podcasts before because you were there. I just didn't want to be within earshot of you. However, here we are again so I'm going to do my best to respond to these points you bring up. 4:50 "why is he attacking me" Because you are watching a 1 MONTH OLD VIDEO. This conversation you are watching happened after you began blasting me on twitter (shown in the video) a month ago. This was NOT recorded after Darens video. 8:00 "The twitch community doesn't like thieves & the bit about fextralife". I am not Fextralife. When I get a sponsor I give them direct screenshots of my analytics, without embeds. 8:15 "It's unethical like murder". It's an ad on a webpage that twitch supports. Twitch even has a guide on how to set it up. 9:00 "its low class to attack me" This is literally the first time I've spoken out to you after countless attacks from you toward me. I've tried just "turning the other cheek" and all that seems to do is encourage you to continue. 9:48 "I didn't name anyone" you did. x.com/NikeDnT/status/1828139597060284708 15:00 "all the anet partners were told not to associate with me by arenanet" No. That has never happened. I avoided you for my own reasons. 17:40 "ive never made a video to mislead people" "yeah I made the onion video" Whatever your motivations were, you still did it. 18:00 I said "it's trash". The video itself. It isn't edited, it's just a snipped twitch vod. I was referring to the video, not an individual. 18:40 "if you aren't doing anything wrong I wouldn't have anything to call out" That did not stop you in the past. Our past interactions are the reason I've avoided you for the years up to this point. And no, I cannot screenshot them because they were on the anet partner discord. But the two times we spoke, it ended with you name calling and I just threw up my hands and stopped responding. 20:00 I actually do not know what GuildJen got unpartnered for. I admit. Vallun however I did see the video, he was being harassed by someone for hours on stream and typed the equivalent of "kys". He absolutely should not have done that, but I haven't seen any clips of him saying something racist, unless you have some. 20:35 that hiccup at this timestamp was where Nike cut out that he said "your facial hair creeps me out, lets be honest about whose a creep. the cps should investigate you because I believe you have kids" Now I have never spoken about your physical appearance, nor am I going to. But joking that someone is a child predator to their children because you don't like a beard? Real classy. And I have the clip saved. 21:05 "did I call you about my name? no I didn't" yes again. x.com/NikeDnT/status/1828139597060284708 22:43 "who cares" I'm trying to answer the questions of the people who are in chat. 30:13 "thats like stealing from your employees paychecks" No it is not. It is an embed, that takes the place of an ad on a website. It is not stealing money from employees. 33:20 "she uses his content, he gets viewbots" I was collabing with her for a long time before she made that offer and I accepted it. 35:47 The plugin for looking at streamers. As another viewer commented on Darens video: "I looked into the Stream Charts extension. They themselves say that there is a lot of reasons that someone may have a low percentage even though they are doing nothing wrong. One section that I believe is important to note here, "An inflated ratio can also be seen among streamers who host giveaways a lot or are included in Twitch Drops campaign(s). It is not necessary for viewers of such broadcasts to watch the stream, they just need to be present on the channel page: viewers can put the stream to the pause and just stick around on the page thus being tracked as an authorized user, but not an actual viewer." Mukluk is very known for his giveaways. After installing the extension, I don't believe that the information shown is accurate at all. As of this moment, Ayin is sitting at 58%, Mukluk is sitting at 47%, Vallun at 28% and Emidotexe is sitting at a staggering 16%. There is something else to this metric that you are not seeing if Emi of all people is lower than Vallun. Also, how are Mukluk's and Vallun's ratios so different if they're embedded on the same site, and how does Vallun has more viewers with a lower percentage?" 36:00 when I threw around the number 10 that was to give examples that were easy to understand. Such as "if 10 people are on the website, then those 10 are viewing me as well". Obviously that scales, if there were 90 on the website then 90 would count yes. That is true. I will tell you I have NEVER started a stream with over 100 viewers instantly. You talk about getting hundreds of viewers from guildjen and while I AM getting views from there those numbers are just not true. 38:00 "oh my god what is this" It's a stream dude. This isn't some edited video in response to Darens. It is a vod from a month ago you are watching. 40:00 The graph. Yeah, I got a bump. That's how it works. It is an option allowed by twitch that helps with visibility. That is the entire point of it. Not stealing from sponsorships or advertisers, not extra ad revenue, it helps with the twitch directory. That's what it does. And if they decide to change the rules on that I will happily accommodate their decisions. In closing I wish you guys would've approached me about this and we could've talked it out, even if it was a live stream or something. You did not @ me on twitter when you blasted me last month. Darens did not tag me on his video, and you did not tag me on this one. Every time I hear about this it's through other people. It seems you constantly want to trash talk people but don't want them to know about it until you get a whole audience around the playground to watch. And again, absolutely insane of you to bring my kid into this. What the hell man?

[@NikeDnT]

I didn't expect you would double down. Stop lying to everyone. Just fucking admit its wrong and remove the embed. Holy crap get it together. Steam charts say there can be explanations, but thats a one off. If you are CONSISTENTLY off, like you are every single day, its not wrong. One false positive is one thing. You are viewbotted every single day. And none of the figures you're citing for Emi and Ayin are correct. I removed the comment about your family because it was over the line. I did that out of courtesy to you. It shows what a low life you are that you'd try to dredge it up to discredit me. You said heinous lies about me, but have the nerve to challenge the one thing I said that was too harsh, which i removed immediately. "yeah i got a bump" Yes, a permanent 20-30% bump. Congrats for agreeing with me. "I actually do not know what GuildJen got unpartnered for. I admit. Vallun however I did see the video, he was being harassed by someone for hours on stream and typed the equivalent of "kys". He absolutely should not have done that, but I haven't seen any clips of him saying something racist, unless you have some." Maybe look into your business associates first, plenty of examples of both of them being utterly repulsive people out there. Guildjen, for example, told a black player to "go back into your cage, monkey" I think maybe you should do your due diligence "That did not stop you in the past. Our past interactions are the reason I've avoided you for the years up to this point. And no, I cannot screenshot them because they were on the anet partner discord. But the two times we spoke, it ended with you name calling and I just threw up my hands and stopped responding." I have no recollection of that, but I'm certain any heated conversation was a two way street. and quite frankly I never wanted to work with you so I'm not sure why you're framing it like you avoided me. I never sought you out. "ive never made a video to mislead people" "yeah I made the onion video" Whatever your motivations were, you still did it." So nobody is ever allowed to make a gag video or their credibility is lost forever? What was the other video you claimed i was misleading noobs? Huh? "thats like stealing from your employees paychecks" No it is not. It is an embed, that takes the place of an ad on a website. It is not stealing money from employees." Are you dumb? I was comparing the ethics of stealing from one group and then being generous to another. Clearly ethical philosophy isnt your strong suit. "she uses his content, he gets viewbots" I was collabing with her for a long time before she made that offer and I accepted it." not sure how this makes it any better at all.

[@BABYSTARZ]

you little random cringelord XD embedding streams is so pathetic

[@MuklukYoutube]

@@NikeDnT I spent an hour watching to your video and responding to each of the points you made. You responded to almost none of them and insulted my kid, and when I called you out on that you say I'm a low life for calling you out on that. I feel like I'm talking to a middle school bully right now. I know what the embed does. It is a twitch approved tool that adds views and helps with visibility. If they change the rules I will accommodate them and adjust accordingly. I'm not going to stop using an approved tool because of one angry fan. I won't respond further on your video, as I've said my peace and don't need to bog down your comment section with repeating myself. I hope you have a good day Nike.

[@marmeus]

@@MuklukKZbin He went inappropriately far and admitted it but he didn't insult your kids, stop it. You really enjoy twisting things and say “I didn’t know” when necessary it seems after watching the video and all.

[@memerjohn1]

@@MuklukKZbin Insane pearl clutching on the kid thing. also, twitch approving something does not make it ethical, would love it if you'd use your brain sometime

[@nixielove6680]

Dam, you really just wanted to start drama over nothing? Sad

[@merklyz]

I can't help myself, but only thing I hear is yaping.

[@TheXyith]

I tried watching your video, but it's so unbearable to watch and listen to. The whiny and sad tone would already be bad enough, but the continuous hypocritical excuses and explanations for your own mistakes make it impossible to watch the video until the end. And before you comfort yourself by thinking I’m only writing this because I like the other guy, I have to tell you that you’re all just interchangeable sources of information for the game and nothing more. I have no emotional attachment to any of you, but I had to let you know because I feel intellectually damaged from watching this.

[@canadians1982]

thin skin

[@benlahcakes]

You had enough emotion to write half a fucking novel bro. Get over yourself.

[@screemingnott]

Hey man, I'm not here to insult you. I get that you just don't like Mukluk and I don't intend to change that. Trash-talking and trolling is part of any community, ruffling a few feathers in a schoolyard brawl is part of the fun even if I don't agree with it. That's just how it is. But this witch hunt you inadvertently sent towards Mukluk has caused the privacy of his family to be in jeopardy. And I NEED you to think about whether or not your hate for him in this videogaming space is worth that kind of harassment. It's fun being the rowdy kid in the schoolyard, but its time to be an adult. This is no longer a matter of pride, you need to approach an enemy with kindness for once.

[@NikeonaBike]

Just FYI, i had zero feelings about mukluk before he made the clip im reacting to that starts with 10 minutes of him bashing me. I've never watched any of his videos, never watched his stream, never talked with him. I made a very tame tweet about how embedding is embarrassing, and he launches a nuke at me bashing me for 10 minutes, and then follows it up with lies about what he was doing. So no, I didn't dislike him before, but you are right that I do now and I don't intend to change it unless he changes the sort of person he is. Secondly, I didn't start any witchhunt or harassment or put his family in jeopardy. Where the heck is that coming from? As far as approaching the enemy with kindness, I'm willing to forgive and forget and let bygones be bygones if he simply apologizes for this video I'm reacting to.

[@screemingnott]

​@@NikeonaBike the keyword is "inadvertently" The mob has started to pinpoint his personal facebook account and harasses him there. Facebook accounts tend to have your personal network of connections such as relatives, coworkers, schoolmates, personal doctors, people from your child's school, business partners, etc. A mob may be petty, but the length they're willing to go to make someone miserable is unpredictable, especially if they begin to figure out where that person lives. They may take harmful actions that you and I would find stupid and unnecessary for a friggin embed video controversy, but a mob would be willing to do it anyway. And all this started because you just wanted someone to apologize for hurting your feelings. Which Im not making fun of your for wanting that. I've had my feelings hurt too and having that person apologize to me is cathartic. But you have to accept that it's become something more than that. If he's gonna apologize, you have to apologize in return for what your irresponsibility has done and would have done. It's not a matter of one person bowing down to the other, it's a matter of two people shaking hands. bygones be bygones is a two way street.

[@AerineTear]

​@@NikeonaBikeplaying as victim now aren't we? It's too predictable and generic, try harder please

[@NikeonaBike]

@@AerineTear im literally being attacked in the video he made that I'm responding to. I wouldn't call myself a "victim" but I am the one who is defending himself from someone else's unprompted attack

[@AerineTear]

​@@NikeonaBike wdym unprompted attack? you were the one who attacked first in twitter you created an angry mob because of that tweet, if you never posted that this thing would never have happened

[@RegalpowerRPG]

Wait, so you’re NOT the Anet community manager?

[@Scales1364]

bro i know my whole world was shook

[@MichaelS5400]

😂

[@kesamek8537]

Nike is the only ANet community manager I acknowledge for that role.

[@zakwan3543]

😂

[@Hyullian]

But why didn't you contact him tho? It's an "embed" that's causing all these emotions on you. Time to reconsider your hobbies.

[@NikeonaBike]

He lost the chance of having a polite conversation when he spent the first 10 minutes of the video I'm reacting to slandering me. Would you have a polite conversation with someone who said those things about you?

[@fredriksk21]

The onion farm never deserved this slander

[@WhiteBeauty406]

I watched muks video… he wasn’t attacking you. I didn’t know what was going on until I watched his video then searched you and Darren. Yall should’ve reached out. I like the embed links it helps promote other streamers. Seen it allllllllll over the place. This is just high school drama. People are bored and wanting to start drama and send people to threaten a man who has been around supporting the community and helping new people. Literally sending people to bully him and threaten him? Why? Contact Twitch regarding the embeds. It’s not against their TOS. I don’t like guildjen or vallun but if Muk chooses to work with them hey that’s his prerogative. Can’t tell someone who they can or can’t hang out with. You’re not his wife or mom or dad. Contact Muk. Talk to him regarding it. You say “he needs to contact me”. Yall are the ones attacking him. Over what???? A stupid embedded link? GROW UP! Stop the high school drama! It’s a game! Yall are content creators! Yall are supposed to lift each other up and help each other out! Good grief

[@kaluimoku2467]

explain why you did not contact Muk before putting out these videos. show us the factual proof of your claims instead of asking us to disprove baseless claims

[@NikeonaBike]

There is proof in the description of this video, and in Darens' video. You didn't bother to look. As far as contacting him, I didn't have any beef with this guy personally until he made this video and spent the first 10 minutes bashing me in it. I had nothing to discuss with him before he slandered me, and once he slandered me I sure didn't have much else to say to him.

[@CrazyDevil666-p6c]

Just explain to me and everyone else why you think it's okay to spread these allegations about content creators like mukluk who, for the most part, does everything right by the book?. Explain why you haven't reached out to mukluk himself to gather the correct information about that type of situation?. You seriously need to grow up and realise that spreading hated information about someone will be blown out of proportion, mukluk had embedded a video on guildjen so that people could to too his channel for information, or guides THATS IT. Since then it's been removed to stop these allegations. Without doing any proper research, without contacting mukluk to see what he had too say. You instead continue to barrage him with false information, therefore creating a negative group of individuals who now relentlessly threaten and attempt to abuse mukluk. You or to be ashamed of yourself honestly, you want more views, so you spread miss heard information about a big streamer so he gets hated on and you gain views. SHAME ON YOU, SIR!!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, OR JUST STOP WITH THE HATE.

[@trick8925]

you're not guild wars 2 community, we dont fight, we dont do drama, we ress ppl who die in world boss, stop bring drama to community we already minorty on mmo

[@LiveLuckyGaming]

This is how you make sure people dont watch your videos anymore.

[@shaneenallen6798]

Yup, dude hasn't been relevant since dungeon speed clears and now he can finally hit that last nail in the coffin.

[@NikeonaBike]

I don't want Muk fans watching my videos. They need to stick to his low intensity build guides.

[@LiveLuckyGaming]

@ I was also a fan of yours, but if this is how you want to act why the fuck would anyone want to be a fan of yours?

[@ColdMystery]

Watching this video made me angry.. I hope Mukluk sues you for the things you've said in the video.. WOW! I can't believe that I at some point in the past was watching YOUR videos...

[@BittahDemon]

Sues for what? Im curious. There's no defamation case here.

[@NikeDnT]

It would be hilarious if anyone sued me over this this video, but not for the reason you think.

[@screemingnott]

buddy, I just saw Mukluk's comment from a month ago and how you just snapped back at him rejecting his offer for a proper discussion. If you just wanted him to apologize in good faith, that was the moment, but you dropped it. So might I offer some advice. Let's say I don't like Mukluk as much as you do, and I found dirt on him with real evidence to expose his wrong doings and manipulative character. If one day he arrives at my doorstep offering a discussion. That's a golden opportunity that I wouldn't miss. If you truly believe all your claims are actually for "a righteous crusade of doing the right thing" awith concrete proof and all... EVERYTHING Mukluk will say can be used against him IF he truly is at fault, because you have the receipts! and if he tries to twist the narrative to favor him, your "solid evidence" can invalidate that immediately! Meaning, if you have a discussion with Mukulk, ESPECIALLY on an open forum with an unbiased thirdparty, he will give you more ammo for your claims. So Mukluk coming to you for a conversation is him offering himself on a silver platter. So why don't you? Why are you rejecting a scenario where you will win? Because we all know your claims are empty. We all know you just have personal vendetta against him. We all know you don't want this to stop because this is how you stay relevant. Im not coming back here because I refuse to give you more "engagement" So enjoy taking your time to reply to my comment and act like you won an argument.

[@NikeonaBike]

Buddy, did you hear the things he said about me for the first 10 minutes of his video? Why the fuck would I want to have a discussion with him after he said that shit? Does it sound like he genuinely wanted to talk to me?

[@Krdw610]

Your channel hasn't seen any significant growth in a long time. Mukluk's channel growth far outpaced yours long before this whole.... "issue" arose. Watching you watch Mukluk's video was pretty telling, you're clearly heated and flustered, even when he's not actually saying anything you seem to take issue with in regard to this "issue". So, it's pretty plain to see that your problem is at least not entirely just how he's running his channel, but it's definitely with him personally as well. We know it, deep down you know it, everyone knows it. This is jealousy and moral grandstanding, and it's sad.

[@JonahRobison-v2l]

bro must be a little bit special. bros mad over muk getting 100 to 20 more viewers when hes already one of the most popular and decides to insult his kid about. and then starts yapping about disproven racist claims.

[@NikeonaBike]

"Disproven"? Check the links in the description bro.

[@JonahRobison-v2l]

@@NikeonaBike idk what vallun has to do with this. also saying vallun's comment on the other video is racist is grasping at straws.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@JonahRobison-v2l Don't worry the N-word pics and videos settle who and what vallun is. Maybe you're unaware but vallun and guildjen are friends and professional associates with muk. both of them were unpartnered by Anet for racist comments. Mukluk said he "wouldn't be in the same room" as me because i was unpartnered for toxicity or whatever, but he is more than happy being in a professional relationship with people who have done far worse. This calls into question both his motives for what he says about me, and also calls into question his personal morality when he is willing to tolerate being associated with these degenerates in exchange for some viewbots. If he can't figure out the morality of that scenario, it isn't surprising to me at all that he can't figure out why viewbotting his stream is ethically problematic. Hope that clears it up for you.

[@JonahRobison-v2l]

@@NikeonaBike dunno where the video is. the screenshot has zero context and could be easily faked but even if he said some bad stuff in the PAST that doesn't mean muk is even remotely responsible for it. or that he agrees with it, or that vallun is still that person. it looks like guildjen just called someone a monkey, who she says she didn't even know was racist or that he was black, so like mukluk said, it is a he said she said situation. Also mukluk has said multiple times when you are brought up in his streams that when he talked to you, you resorted to name calling. Which is why he doesn't like you. we can assume vallun and guildjen haven't acted this way towards him, so it does not call into question his motives for not liking you. so he like those who are nice to him, and dislike those who name call. Doesn't call into question anyones ethics but your own.

[@ashleykoch4259]

I dont really know this nike guy, nor did i watch this video, but i come here to look at his comments for daily cringe. thanks guys

[@NikeonaBike]

most sane muk fan

[@Djynni]

I am only coming here to let you know that I am blocking your channel because you threw Mukluk under the bus. You are not a good member of this community if you are just going to accuse someone and not give them a chance to talk to you BEFORE posting. I blocked Darens also.

[@NikeonaBike]

Cool take it easy

[@panmaciej121]

Yo, did my own research on subject, here are results for last 3 months: I counted visits count and visits duration to guildjen and compared it to muk's stats on twitch. Take this with a pinch of salt cause *it's rough estimates*. In june guilden contributed 31.8 viewers, muk had 426 on average In july guildjen contributed 27.2 viewers, muk had 353 on average In august guildjen contributed 29.7 viewers, muk had 940 on average *August had twitch drops and it's stats are different than what muk usually have. ---------------------------------- Personal opinion: I think both of you exagerrate. Muk by saying 'it's just few views' and you by saying 'it's hundreds of views'. I think it has to be something in between. The stats in his video seem to improve by like 100. So even before/without guildjen muk would have around 300 on average and that would make him top in gw2 anyway.

[@FirstZenGate]

Someone's gonna have to clue me in on why anyone cares about any of this.

[@NikeonaBike]

These stats are blatantly incorrect

[@FirstZenGate]

@@NikeonaBike You still crying about this? God damn lol

[@NikeonaBike]

@@FirstZenGate nope, we won. Got everything I could have possibly wanted out of this sad event.

[@FirstZenGate]

@@NikeonaBike hahahahahahahaha

[@Darkz.-]

this solidifies your „entertaining because regarded“ tier

[@flashme1517]

This is the saddest whiniest rant I’ve ever heard! Lmfao Why are you two grown ass men upset about this? It literally sounds like only jealousy. Please use your time on not being such a middle school girl

[@NikeonaBike]

nice misogynist comment

[@grumble3929]

I do not care to be honest....

[@NikeonaBike]

if i said anything factually wrong in the video ill retract it.

[@maickelvanee2540]

The first 14 minuts is you justifying your stupid actions in a childish way. Stopped watching after that cannot take you serious..

[@NikeonaBike]

The first 14 minutes is me responding to his irrelevant to the issue personal attacks. You seem to be putting the cart before the horse.

[@LuminatX]

Nike got his panties in a bunch. It's so funny 😂

[@xoawolf]

Well, can't say I'm surprised, another poor take.

[@SamH-e1w]

Hot take, this is all premeditated drama orchestrated to increase viewership, because I refuse to believe grown ass men would create an issue out of literally nothing that nobody really cares about lol

[@NikeonaBike]

You don't know much about the twitch community if you think nobody cares about it. Google twitch embedding drama and you'll see how big a deal it is by people outside of the tiny GW2 bubble

[@Krdw610]

The statement that embedding is an unethical practice is absurd. I would really love for you to actually explain how it's unethical. Don't tell me why you don't like it, tell me why it's UNETHICAL.

[@NikeonaBike]

Darens explains that in his comprehensive video on the topic. the pinned comment here says watch darens video first, which you did not.

[@Krdw610]

@@NikeonaBike Daren's video does nothing to explain why embedding is unethical. I think you both need a dictionary. You also need a new hobby, content creation clearly isn't for you.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@Krdw610 if you watched darens video and didnt hear the explanation maybe clean your ears and try again. your sad attempt to make me feel bad wont change the facts that the streamers youre carrying water for is a bad guy who did a bad thing and he was exposed for it. deal with reality.

[@viniciuseduardo3329]

what a new low huh nike, i guess the onion farm ain't paying the bills anymore, so you gotta farm drama asmongold style

[@NikeonaBike]

I'm replying to someone who attacked me. Why am I the bad guy in this? I wouldn't have made this video if he hadnt made his.

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@NikeonaBikeHe attacked you after you went after him for nothing? Hmmmmmm. You aren't half as intelligent as you think you are and it shows.

[@sean.talbot]

Responds to a perceived unhinged rant with an unhinged rant. Typical narcissistic sociopathic behavior 😅

[@NikeonaBike]

I love when weird dudes try to psychoanalyze people, not creepy at all.

[@sean.talbot]

@@NikeonaBike Yes, incredibly weird of this video to psychoanalyze

[@NikeonaBike]

​@@sean.talbotstick to coding and leave the DSM5 stuff to people more qualified.

[@BilliestSilly]

​@@sean.talbotoof think you might've hit a nerve 😂

[@sean.talbot]

@@NikeonaBike Wow, what an insecure crybaby you are. I wonder why anyone bothers to watch your content 😂

[@cagobello9412]

Not being liked by Gw2 subreddit is basically a compliment

[@petepablogaming243]

Why attack such a small streamer that obviously was not doing this maliciously

[@NikeonaBike]

He's a far bigger streamer than me and he was doing it maliciously.

[@sean.talbot]

@@NikeonaBike "He's a far bigger streamer than me"

[@NikeonaBike]

@@sean.talbot you know absolutely nothing about me if you think I care about youtube or twitch metrics. Considering how much bigger a youtuber I am than *you* perhaps I should attribute your strange interest in defending mukluk to a jealousy about me? Since you love to psychoanalyze people, please tell me why you think Mukluk is choosing to cheat, lie, and associate with racists? Why is he motivated to do that rather than simply remove the embed and follow Twitch TOS?

[@sean.talbot]

@@NikeonaBike Clearly you care. You thrive on attention and drama. I could not care less about KZbin following - I simply don't need it to be successful in my work. Before you attacked someone I consider a friend and genuinely decently person, I never thought about you or knew you existed. Based on your increasingly unhinged replies, it's clear to me my initial assessment of you was spot on.

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@NikeonaBikeyou got caught lmfao.

[@memerjohn1]

imagining the stacks and stacks of paperwork it must've taken to remove nike from the partner program! LOL

[@NikeDnT]

huge reams of paper work. the lawyers and paralegals up all night just collating!

[@NikeonaBike]

@@nuggettscout5715 you've left a bunch of negative comments, are you butthurt? Go be mad at your boy Mukluk for cheating, lying about it, and being partners with racists.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@nuggettscout5715 🤣

[@gw2chief366]

Man you PvE guys be getting more toxic than the WvW guys haha

[@NikeDnT]

the bad news is 2 of the 3 people involved in this cheating scheme are WvW guys.

[@aimrob3]

@@NikeDnT 1 is the racist, whos the 2nd !_!

[@NikeonaBike]

@@aimrob3 the other racist

[@nirsamra9016]

Well it’s feel like you and Daren just want to destroy mukluk from jealousy ! Also if you don’t let muk response you are just a bully

[@quaquaval]

50 year old men arguing over nothing. it’s embarrassing. kim there’s people who are dying

[@H4ndler]

just streamer problems nobody cares about. I like nike but this was a bit too whiny

[@nd6886]

Wait if Fextralife embeds all their streams and couldn't garner any viewers for GW2, that means there's no interest for the game.

[@NikeDnT]

When fextralife streamed GW2 they had several tens of thousands of viewers, unfortunately none of them were real.

[@okbuddykormir]

I wish GW2 story dialogue was this intense

[@TheKajero]

like I commented under Darren's, regardless of whether this was done out of pettiness or alleged concern for the community, you do realize this community compared to other MMO communities is still, after a decade, a growing one right? you do realize that the top creators of this community get less than 1k views and meager reach, if I thought about this from a completely dejected clout-chasing self-serving point of view, I would actually reach out for other creators within this community for exposure, collaboration, actual work to get reach, how are y'all a handful of creators attacking those who are slightly better than you for something like this and then not reaching out to them? you claim you do not know Mukluk but do you really need to know someone prior to posting about them within a community that you know will have ripples over them before talking to said-person? I don't know the guy personally but I'm sure he would've actually replied to you if you came up to him with this, this community needs more support within its creators not more attacks, we aren't a community big enough for each person to rack up hundreds of thousands of views per stream or video, help eachother instead of attacking eachother and stop acting in bad faith and claiming you care for the community and doing this out of concern for it, the bit of reach you attempted to rack up from this stunt is going to backfire on you

[@lydyepydlgdlydlydussuuddi]

Lol. Yea. The little kiddies are stealing views. What a small minded and insignificant thing to whine about. Such a petty community.

[@Repper3444]

What do you mean? These views might have destroyed a potential streaming carrier with thousands of viewers. Cause there are already so many big guild wars streamers that make so much money. But now cause of mukluk no one new will have the chance to get a big Streamer like all the other once.

[@miaka999]

very mature of you and darens to harass muk

[@NikeDnT]

look at the comments here and sort by new to see who is harassing who

[@Krdw610]

@@NikeDnT Being called out for harassing someone else isn't exactly the same thing, but good try.

[@NikeDnT]

@@Krdw610 I didn't harass anyone, I made one tweet saying that "embedding was embarrassing" and mukluk posted this video that I am reacting to. He attacked me, I'm defending myself here from his unwarranted attack. Starting with a 10 minute segment personally attacking me over a tweet where I literally only say that embedding is embarrassing is pretty aggressive and harassing to me. Fact is: he cheated, lied about it, finally came clean and removed it, but still claims to be the victim.

[@Krdw610]

@@NikeDnT Mukluk explains his perspective. You release an angry, barely coherent, 41 minute insane rant. Not only that, your entire position relies on the premise that mukluk's ACTUALLY done anything wrong, which is absolutely false.

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@Krdw610yup. This dudes off the wall.

[@towcace4826]

did someone counted the uhm's and ah's? smh

[@ladyanguine]

His content is 10/10 tho lets face it.. saturate my feed with his content over everyone else (bar a few) GW2 makers. Stay in your lane.. admit he makes better content???

[@NikeonaBike]

He released two of the worst build guides ever made for GW2, so I'd pump the brakes on that glaze job.

[@QzarVideos]

This is all just so unnecessary

[@kesamek8537]

More like a very necessary process in a healthy community.

[@anannoyedpanda]

​@@kesamek8537Shill.

[@olegscapligins1181]

Gru plan meme template: 1. No one cares about you 2. Create a drama out of nowhere 3. Your videos still get less than 10k views 4. Your videos still get less than 10k views

[@NikeDnT]

This video is not monetized, I don't care about views.

[@catedoge3206]

here from Muk's new vid. big hmm

[@rofl123mao]

"The simplest solution for this drama would be..." ...to talk to Mukluk before posting drama videos. Sorry but I'm going to unsubscribe because of the reason you and others posted before reaching out to him.

[@NikeonaBike]

thanks for unsubscribing, I genuinely don't want to make content that appeals to such morally empty people

[@kirdenlynx]

This isn’t a good look for either of you imo. The embedding thing is a massive issue across all games and shouldn’t be allowed, but the personal attacks on both sides are a bad look for the community. Hopefully everyone moves on and embedding can be dealt with seriously in a professional manner as these rants don’t move the real issue forward in any meaningful way.

[@NikeonaBike]

well the worst thing he can say about me is I'm mean. the worst thing I can say about him is a lot worse than that, so I'll take the hit on it to be the person who brings it to the fore.

[@locexorder6694]

Its hard to believe you and Daren didnt have bad intentions there. Apologies are in order boys.

[@NikeonaBike]

why? we didnt do the bad thing. guildjen violated twitch TOS and got her site blacklisted. muk knew what he was doing was wrong, and did it anyway. He should apologize to me for slandering me to deflect from his bad actions.

[@locexorder6694]

@@NikeonaBike you and Daren did all this to create traffic on your own channels by hurting two creators far above your league although they are too polite to say it. Jokes on you they are loved by the community that wont stand for your crap. Ask NikeonaBoat i'm sure he'll defend you.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@locexorder6694 weird theory considering Twitch agreed with us and took away their cheating embedding.

[@locexorder6694]

Im looking at your videos, the comment and the way Muk answered. I feel in the right, you are not the only one that can have opinions. The way you guys answer the comments is just amocher proof all this exploded on your face. Which is deserved, bye.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@locexorder6694 no offense, but i dont really care about your uninformed feelings on the topic. I care about the actions people take and the results. We pointed out the problem, and now the problem is fixed. we got what we hoped.

[@Pep2179]

Higher viewer counts have a psychological effect on some people. They make them more likely to sub, gift subs, or even donate money. That's another argument against embedding, because many of these viewers are unaware of it.

[@marionunes7025]

You're one sad individual.

[@Repper3444]

Where can i find mukluks video? I checked his channel but didnt see.

[@vidaliver1447]

www.twitch.tv/videos/2235540682

[@philipariel3730]

L

[@raggun5142]

My guy, 41min rant about other peoples business practices? You good? Yikes.

[@NikeonaBike]

actually most of it had to do with the unprompted personal attacks against me.

[@davidmumber3099]

Damn, 41 min for whining about "he got hundreds views", wtf. actually i think, if these viewers weren't on his stream, i doubt they would be on yours. Next Asmon will be called out for playing different games and stealing viewers..

[@NikeonaBike]

i dont stream gw2 so your jealousy accusation falls a bit flat. You must be unaware that Asmon was one of the first and strongest voices AGAINST embedding.

[@davidmumber3099]

@@NikeonaBike Then whats even the point? He could prob buy 100 viewers and nobody would give a shit. Adds on multiple sites and ways are just ways to reach more people in any kind of business. Are we actually harassing a guy for having the opportunity to have maybe 100 views? Daaamn.. And my point about Asmon was about when he plays for example Elden Ring and "stealing" the newbie people, who wants to know what the game is about, from the smaller streamer, because he will be prob on the first spot.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@davidmumber3099 I dont care about your point regarding asmon, i just found it ironic you use him to defend someone embedding when asmon hates embedding. 100 viewers is minimum. Especially when he streamed non-GW2 games they were up to 75% of his total viewers. And yes, people do give a shit. pretty much everybody in the twitch community gives a shit.

[@davidmumber3099]

Okay, I guess then it is, what it is now. Hope you can grind a little bit more out of it. A conversation about something you seem to care about, seems not to be a thing you consider valueable. Mister Judge, I hope i didn't misstreated you in anyway. Tbh will be prob the first and last time interacting with this kind of content. Was just shocked that someone get stressed because of some small things like that and wanted to hear what the opposition has to say. Thanks for answering and giving me an opportunity to form my opinion on that matter.

[@Zambajazz]

"L take" the video

[@nathanielr8098]

Damn you got ratioed

[@NikeonaBike]

It's called "brigading" and further proof that muk and also his community are as toxic as I allege

[@gfuviddisf]

@@NikeonaBike Idk all your comments about him in tpot's discord are toxic too

[@NikeonaBike]

@@gfuviddisf Again, you're upset that I'm hitting back after he hit me first

[@gfuviddisf]

@@NikeonaBike idk what gave you the impression im upset, im talking about old messages, you always been hateful

[@NikeonaBike]

@@gfuviddisf yeah i've never respected his fake family friendly demeanor and the content he makes is pretty bad, so yeah I've consistently thought he was lame.

[@96Caleb96]

Jealous.. yet they bring people to Gw2.. you forgot to mention teapot and laranity do it on occasion too.. they bring alot of content that attracts new players.. your content scares them away. Jealous.

[@NikeonaBike]

Laranity and Teapot have never embedded on a website for the express purpose of inflating their viewer count. That's a serious allegation. Also, you should ask yourself why Twitch agrees with me and forced guildjen to take the embeds down and blacklisted her site? I'm not sure how jealousy is connected, I don't try to make my living from content creation and being anything like Mukluk would make me sick to my stomach rather than happy.

[@Cricket101382]

Not exactly sure how this is stealing or how in anyway this hurts anyone. Sure it's a little shady but like he's not pulling views from anyone, he's not taking money from anyone. So what's the problem other then you being upset that you can't/aren't doing it? Edit: Man this is really a nothing problem. I'm kind of sad I wasted my time watching any amount of this video

[@NikeDnT]

watch Darens video first, like I ask you to to do in the pinned comment.

[@DemethVLK]

If he has the most viewership he is at the top of the list on twitch. When you check out a game you don't go to a low-mid viewership streamer usually, you're checking out the tops.

[@Cricket101382]

@@DemethVLK You're checking out the top. I tend to look at many videos when I'm looking into things.

[@Baseraver]

@@Cricket101382 Youre not representing the majority of the community

[@Joel-um8rk]

Stealing what? MMOs in general is such a small genre that competing in this way is more harmful to the comunity then anything…

[@NikeonaBike]

Viewbotting steals opportunity of discoverability from more deserving smaller streamers by pushing them further down the category. You might not think its a big problem, but thats not the consensus among the twitch community.

[@Joel-um8rk]

@ more deserving? who's to say that.. at the end of the day i could say i deserve a pay raise at my jobb but will that work? No i just have to do beter to the next year from my point of view muck has brought alot of ppl to this game/comunity and thats something we all benefit from as a player i can go into old Maps that is not empty and maybe some of hes fans start to watch ur videos when they want to branch out. Maybe u have a point and so maybe he does to there is seldom one side to a coin and just one negative aspect without a positive one too. And as a rule try to go by when my opinion is the one that stands out and i get that feedback from puting it out i try to look at it one more time and see if maybe im in the wrong..

[@NikeonaBike]

@@Joel-um8rk The person with more real viewers deserves to be highest in the category. The fact you're even trying to twist this into an argument with two sides is weak sauce man.

[@Joel-um8rk]

⁠@@NikeonaBikeevrything got two sides all adults knows this… u can see a 100 coments with 100s of likes in this coment section repsenting the other side so not weak im realistic..

[@NikeonaBike]

@@Joel-um8rk Bro, a bunch of lunatics from muk's community brigading my comments section isn't a good thing to take a conclusion from.

[@EloyBushida]

This randomly popped in my feed because I've been watching a ton of GW2 stuff the last few weeks I guess, but yeah Vallun being a racist piece of garbage is no surprise at all, I blocked their channel from showing up quite a while back because every other thumbnail seemed to feature trump or maga BS ect. Anyone who hangs around them is immediately suspect in my opinion. As for Muk and embedding and shit I don't care about that at all, it doesn't change my experience or affect me in any way, nor can I see any way that it would negatively impact anyone at all under any circumstances so I can't see why anyone would care. I think its weird how much drama this issue has caused among streamers and youtubers over the last few years.

[@PeteraPander]

It's funny, that this is against Twitch Devoloper Agreement where it states under Embedded Experience, that you are not allowed to have the player on autoplay if it is obscured or at the bottom of the page. I donÄt know if GuildJen as the site owner or Mukkluk himself gets the blame but it's worth reporting.

[@NikeonaBike]

just wanted to update you that twitch has investigated guildjen and added her site to the blacklist and disabled autoplay embedding after finding she violated TOS

[@robbieh9873]

This is quite an oofie

[@korfix-dk]

Dude....... farming drama.... gg

[@Tuskalii]

L

[@JohnJWhite]

~38 minutes in, "none of this is relevent. . . . LOOK AT THAT BUMP!!! lol

[@DatLouie]

Streamers/Online personalities and having inflated egos, name a better duo 🤡 Anyone with a following can make any claims or do anything they want without punishment anyways cause you always got your cashflow guaranteed from any blind subs and donos who don't pay attention or look the other way from current events 💀. I love boomer gamer drama i'm enjoying the roasts

[@Atokedo]

not your sub and never was i think because you seemed a bad person to me the moment i saw you ...interesting

[@imhappyidance]

i cant sneed

[@XT873]

AYO I CANT SNEED ... I CANT SNEEEED!!

[@UwUOwOTwT]

What’s even worse, is this could be used to directly end up into the twitch partner program, right? Both of said people were already partners, but that would directly affect the amount of money someone could make. It’s disgusting behavior and I think everyone should blacklist the site. If you want to consume their twitch content, go for it. But being double dipped as a viewer on twitch, and forced as a “free viewer” on both streams if her site is up is WRONG. Why do we have to artificially inflate an already low viewed game, and then have fake viewers when they are variety streaming?!? C’mon.

[@PeypaMikko-1842]

Good luck with Muk Army. You will have my sub, even if I know you don't care.

[@NikeonaBike]

thanks, in the end we won. The embed is gone. guildjens site is blacklisted by twitch. Darens and I paid a price for being the peopel who stuck their nose out, but in the end we made the right thing happen

[@PeypaMikko-1842]

@@NikeonaBike It saddens me that people have troubles with facts. A content creator can do great things / good things, but it won't automatically mean he is right on everything. The reverse is also true.

[@gamerkang4648]

Ok, I don't like you anymore. Can you not play Berserker? It's my favorite specialization and since I don't like you anymore, I'm annoyed that you play what I play. Do you see how dumb I sound here? Now take a listen at this video: it goes for about 40 minutes.

[@NikeonaBike]

yeah you do sound dumb, but not just the part where you were trying

[@tm.tedesco]

Unsubscribing. Check your facts and Muk's reply. I believe Muk and you've always been salty, pessimistic, and negative. There's a reason why Anet dropped you as a partner at some point. Also, either way, I smell this all out of envy/jealousy. Unnecessary drama.

[@NikeDnT]

you're basically wrong about everything, congrats

[@tm.tedesco]

@@NikeDnT So responses like this and your responses to the majority of the people here that I've read kinda says case and point. And if I"m so wrong about everything, then tell me why you were kicked from the GW2 partnership program? It's not your fault, right? at all? And if you're completely innocent about this current drama with Muk and you did nothing wrong, and Muk says he's innocent and did nothing wrong, then really what it comes down to is who should I trust over the other? I've watched you and Muk for a long time and I've noticed (and I've seen the consensus from the majority of the GW2 community on reddit and on here) that you are labeled as "toxic", "negative", "salty" among many other things.... and from my own viewing experience, I have to agree. You don't give off a positive energy and especially with others. I would take Muk's defense and position over yours, why? Because you have no humility, no humbleness, no heart or love, or responsibility taken for your contributions to this. All I hear in this video that you label "unhinged" is that you are making the poor decisions to be defensive over everything, ranting, and nit picking EVERYTHING. You are not taking ownership to your own mistakes one bit and all you're doing in the comments section is bashing others--even to the ones who come here civilized to call you out. And I'm also choosing to trust the content creator who I find to have much more maturity--who show's signs that he has it together and handles all conflicts & issues with a matter of fact approach and is assertive. You also need to wipe this point from existence: Muk does not "viciously bash" you for 10 minutes in his video, that is through the twisted lens that you have chosen to view it. At the end of the day, none of this really matters to me in what you think or say. The only thing that matters is that someone started this drama, someone is going to lose a bunch of subscribers & viewers because of it, previous community perceptions of you will be just be reinforced, I'm choosing to trust Muk over you, and HONESTLY, that you may realize one day that you did this to yourself. I would suggest that maybe you should read some books on how you can approach life with joy and patience, kindness, love, humility, self-control, and positivity? Maybe look into following Jesus? I hope that surely one day you'll look back on this and ask yourself was it really worth it? Was that really necessary? And what was the intent? Regardless of your intentions because I know you have an excuse that they were pure, it will come off as jealousy, envy, noise for yourself and for attention to everyone who's not you. I think some true inside growth needs to happen and you need to recognize it. And please, listen more to what people are actually saying in the comments before you react. As someone that used to be completely negative, viewed life pessimistically, almost lost his marriage, his kids, and everything, I can 100% say self growth and improvement can make all the difference in your life when you choose to look inside, take a microscope, and put in the work to all the areas you discover you're not happy with. But you have to want it and discover if how you're approaching everything is not working for you anymore. If you only have more negative and defensive things to respond to this with, I will stop reading and will leave you to it.

[@NikeDnT]

@@tm.tedesco Genuinely asking, how many words long of a response do you think you're entitled to and how long should I spend on it? As far as the opinions of reddit and whoever else about, that's all irrelevant because this isn't about me. Even if we accept everything bad ever said about me is 100% true, we can set that aside and discuss the actual issue: muk embedding his stream on guildjen's site to inflate his twitch views. This is indisputable to anyone who cares to look at the stats and everything else that's been repeated ad nauseum. Trying to reduce it to a morality contest between muk and i to decide who is correct is probably not going to lead you to a factual answer, only an emotional one that isn't relevant to the issue. As far as your banal recommendation to "follow Jesus" why don't you give that advice to him, since it was he, afterall, who cast the first stone.

[@tm.tedesco]

@@NikeDnT Again, no ownership on your end of your choices. And deflections. Look we can go down a rabbit hole of who did this, when, and how, and who did that, but I know that it leads to dead ends where both sides may have good points. Both sides probably have mistakes too. Again, at this nitpicking road, what it comes down to is that I believe Muk over you in that he wasn't embedding intentionally for wrong or immoral reasons. Because I have reasons to trust him more than you. And what he said in his video actually makes sense, contains no fallacy, and is grounded. He did not bash you one bit. Muk is harmless. And, he took the embed down. He chose to handle this in a manner I agree with, the way I would expect myself and other grown adults to handle this. On the other hand, your video is a heated rant. Unhinged, unfiltered, & full of exaggerated anger. You chose to handle it this way. And really, if there was an issue with embedding videos, maybe you or Daren could have contacted Muk directly about it and expressed your concern? Rather than choosing to make videos about it passive aggressively for him to discover? Also wrong move. Now you have the whole community riled up about it and your name is everywhere. That's what you wanted right? Who should the viewers be led to believe more? You tell me? Am I supposed to believe the person who I feel is immature, deflects, pessimistic, toxic, and negative? And that last sentence in your response --you're taking what I wrote to you and twisted it as an accusation that he started this. Again, you are quick to deflect, blame, and point fingers rather than actually take in what I said to you and actually digest it. You're doing this with the majority of comments here trying to make a valid point to you.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@tm.tedesco I'm not the topic. This is about embedding. Even mentioning me or my history is the deflection from the actual issue.

[@lukenothere1252]

Wow you’re unhinged here, what a shame

[@Justacheese]

At the start I noticed a lot of Um and Uh when you were talking. I don't think you need a script, since I don't use scripts in my own vids, but you might wanna go for a take #2 and record some of your points again. I know it works wonders for me a lot of the time. I'll get 30 minutes in a vid notice its going kinda crap and start over. When I do my head feels clear and fresh since I already know what I wanna talk about. Its cool if you don't wanna do it though. Everyone is in charge of their own channels.

[@DemethVLK]

I really disliked you Nike, years ago, because of your raw criticisms and I thought you were just a hater. But with time I realized you made valid criticisms and you just wanted Anet and GW2 to do better. Sometimes dooming? Sure, but I realized you analysed things really well and had very interesting takes. I felt the need to say it now since you're criticized and blamed for a lot of nonsensical things, to me.

[@NikeonaBike]

fair enough!

[@soralink411]

maturing is realizing Nike was right about most things

[@SteveWray]

A lot of the time, people who say things you really disagree with, are also saying things that really make you think. This is why you shouldn't 'cancel' people for being offensive, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

[@juanpunch2793]

hot take: collabing with racists is slightly more unethical than promoting an onion video that actually worked

[@kajobluemane]

You're supporting the racist right here right now. Good to know.

[@krievsLV]

Wdym, i love racing

[@kesamek8537]

@@krievsLV me too the Racist Goggles are my favorite GW2 cosmetic upgrade.

[@aimrob3]

@@krievsLV whats your favorite and least favorite race, go.

[@paul_01123]

If he would just have said something like this is a twitch tech design issue counting the viewers and is their problem to fix, I am not breaking any rules, it would have given far less ammo to do discuss.

[@NikeDnT]

possibly but in my book just because something is legal to do doesnt mean its ethical to do so I would probably still poke him about this.

[@daledo2996]

i will give my life for onion

[@SakotraEndeva]

Unsubscribed. Why so mean, you are a grown adult man but acting like a child. Look at yourself.

[@NikeonaBike]

Don't care if you subscribe or not. but you should be madder at the guy who is a lying cheater and friends with racists and not the bearer of bad news.

[@ExxzoD]

Dude, other big streamers, from other games, do this (and other things)... Why should GW2 streamers not do it as well? If the other dudes "cheat" you should all do the same and bring GW2 numbers up!

[@NikeDnT]

I'm not comfortable with anyone who cheats.

[@luca7675]

@@NikeDnT And noone is comfortable with you! So its going full circle :D

[@HowardMacintosh-j6l]

@@NikeDnT it's not cheating when it's legalized byt the main party - twitch. If you don't like it, talk to twitch, not to people using the platform AS INTENDED.

[@NikeonaBike]

@@HowardMacintosh-j6l Its not legalized. Guildjen is currently in violation of Twitch's policy. I quote the current policy here: "We encourage you to use the Twitch embed autoplay feature where the embed is positioned as a focus of the user experience. Twitch may disable autoplay when the embed is not relevant or related to the user experience, meaning the embed is hidden, obscured, or located at the bottom of a page, and/or where a primary purpose of the embed placement is to inflate viewer count on a Twitch Channel."

[@jetah50]

@@NikeonaBike then bring that to twitchs attention and let it go. dont let this live rent free in your head.

[@RemixSoju]

Unsubbed

[@NikeDnT]

i refund you immediately

[@mandaur_saur]

MKay, I am not going to sit here and say I am not a fan of Mukluk, but I have been reading some of your responses in these comments and I finally read a thread where you explain your side and why you didn't want to talk with Mukluk about this when he asked you to. I am trying to be unbiased and this is how I see the situation: I was on the stream lurking when I heard Mukluk start to talk about the issue, honestly during that stream I was surprised and found it in bad taste that he did attack your character before explaining the issue that was brought up in the tweets and Daren's video. Whether you tagged him or not the connection is clear. Now that being said should Mukluk have said those things about you? No not at all. It doesn't sound professional even if yall did or didn't have bad run in's in the past. He could have explained who you were in general (liking you or not) in a non-biased way and explained the situation at hand. He did cross a professional line there. You shouldn't have made this video with all the slandering of him either. This Video and your opinion or facts of this matter would hold so much more weight without stooping to his level of character assassination. Now I understand this is your way of standing up for yourself and you have a right and so does Mukluk , but both are in poor taste. But since both the VOD and this video exists here we are. After all these videos, and VODS were pointed out I understand why each of you didn't want to talk to each other in private seeing as you all are heated with each other, but honestly I still think after a while a private conversation should have happened before Mukluk posted this last video. (In that video he maybe should have made an apology for slandering you in the stream) But since he didn't here we are again. Whoever is right or wrong this is all unprofessional on all fronts (Darens included putting Mukluk's stats up without a tag of Mukluk, or trying to cite his sources with Mukluk in private is shady to say the least) ALL BEING SAID, no matter what this situation is, I still believe a private conversation between you 3 to clear the air would not only be professional, but would end this weird "he said he said" bickering between all and stop creating a toxic environment for anyone trying to consume all of you guys' content to just have a good time with some of their GW2 creators. It is never too late to discuss in private and make apologies in private. If Mukluk didn't know embedding was within guidelines or not, he has since requested and had taken his videos off the website with the embed's. The damage has been done on all sides, and if yall privately all come to mutual understanding it doesn't mean you have to like each other or want to collab or anything, but being professional and being cordial would go a long way for all involved. It doesn't have to be plastered all over the internet with drama. That is just a suggestion of "being the bigger man" maybe once your cooled off and just trying to make amends so this doesn't continue on. Now I know you will think this is all ridiculous to say but just think about the long term and just honestly realize mistakes were made by everyone in this situation. I hope you all the best and hope you find the peace you need from this situation.

[@NikeDnT]

For the record, Muk never asked me to talk with him. I'm not sure where this is coming from. Granted, I have no idea what we would have to say to each other nor do I know why everyone wants it to happen so much, but nonetheless the idea that I declined to talk to him and he wanted to talk is not true.

[@mandaur_saur]

@@NikeDnT Well I am sorry if I was misinformed through a rumor-mill or something, I thought I saw at some point he might have reached out, but either way I hope you all eventually find a civil solution, whether by it just blowing over, or private conversations. But it seems there's a lot to be said publicly by all involved, and it really doesn't look good on anyone airing out dirty laundry in public view. Hope you find what you are looking for in this situation, honestly don't want to have ill will towards anyone even if I am or am not a fan. I please hope that I did not come across as attacking anyone, I was just hoping for a solution and trying to get a more positive outlook with so much hate going around on this matter.

[@NikeDnT]

@@mandaur_saur I appreciate your thoughtful comment. In fact, I have gotten what I wanted, for the most part. The offending embed was removed and that's all the action I ever wanted taken.

[@snyper182000]

Lol. The tierlist was fine. I agreed with like 90% of it, I think. Some of the stuff was interesting to find out about too. Like the beef with Jebro, DocGotGame being an Gamist, why Enko got banned etc. I guess Muk got salty the same way Hasan lost his shit when Xqc rated him lower than destiny. Man.. all this shit blows over in 2-3 days on the internet unless you actually are scum fuck. Muk would have been better off just owning it and doubling down. If he wants to skate on the line of legality, that's okay. Just take the bad side of it too. If anything, the onus probably lies more on Guildjen for harboring these embedded streams. It reminds me of the whole getting angry at immigrants for working less than minimum, but not the employers who hire them thing. Missing the forest for the trees here.

[@NikeonaBike]

i agree, guildjen is the main problem. The difference is guildjen is a notoriously bad person nobody expects her to be a good human. Muk's persona is how PG and wholesome he is. He ought to hold himself to a higher standard than guildjen.

[@kesamek8537]

@@NikeonaBike PG people are quite often the worst offenders by which I mean registered.

[@jace9968]

Nice to see GW2 is alive and thriving. This was disheartening to watch, I don't really watch streams or keep up with GW2 content so a lot of this is new to me. I've lost a lot of respect for Anet over the years. Seems now it's the same for the people that make content for this game.

[@901shake]

Mukluk is trying to have the cake and eat it too. if the embedding doesnt matter he shouldnt have a problem removing it. But I do disagree with guildjen "paying" him by embedding him, her using his videos is good for him even without her embedding his stream. And its not like he is losing anything by letting her use his videos. Also afaik he used to recommend her way before getting the embedd. I think it was just a good faith move from her, was it because of the constant endorsement? maybe but I dont think it was as transactioal as you made it seem. Also the face hair comment is sticking like a sore thumb, because your video has pretty good points this 6th grade insult sticks out. but all and all pretty good job, mukluk seem to talk alot about how it is legal but the problem is that its unethical so most of the stuff he says are not really related to the problem EDIT: also didnt watch the streamer tier list but saying "everything I said was true" to mukluk saying "you said vile things" doesn't really work, you can be vile and mean without lying (but I didn't watch the tier list so I dont even know if the original claim is true)

[@kupkkake]

The Path of Exile community went through this same scenario a few years ago of disingenuous embedding on a quasi-commonly used community website. Good work shining the flashlight here in the same way. Trust no embedder.