Responding to Your Comments

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
05:48 RE: On the Objectification of Women
11:38 Wind River’s “White Saviors”
16:43 Eyes Wide Shut’s ACTUAL Meaning
19:56 RE: The Worst Thing About Invincible
#Reaction #Comments #Response

[@devilslayersbane]

Watched this a year after release. Always enjoy your analyses. I do want to point out that Mark, Amber, and Co. are Teenagers and they have some maturing to do before they may be able to look at Amber's actions and go "that's actually pretty toxic". I'm not gonna lie, at that age I would have had difficulty doing so, and it took a lot of maturing and tough learning to learn that. A good portion of that was environment. So yeah, while I agree that Amber is a bad character, I don't think that she can be written off as poorly written YET. Not sure if you'll ever read this lumo, but if you do, I'd like to know your thoughts.

[@LUMOSHROOM]

I read you loud and clear. My only contention would be that Amber is portrayed as exceptionally mature and virtuous the rest of the time - working at a soup kitchen, building schools for the underprivileged, standing up to bullies and embracing social justice. All of these aspects of her character are shortcuts the writers took to get us to respect and admire her without actually putting in the work. So while I understand that those characters are teenagers and have some maturing to do I believe it's dishonest to explain Amber's being such a paragon of wisdom and virtue half of the time and an unbridled narcissistic brat the rest of the time with, "She's still figuring things out." You're right. She is a teenager; but I don't think the text actually treats her as though she is.

[@weischreiner]

bruh a pinned comment with a single like

[@exodiusow7649]

​@@LUMOSHROOMit's been a year rest 😭😭

[@ezrawolford850]

@@exodiusow7649 My boy still fighting for his life out here

[@MrWinnieP]

@@LUMOSHROOM You could argue that the writers put her philanthropy on display as a way to portray her as an annoying overcompensating immature teen trying to show everyone “LOOK HOW GOOD I AM” but the rest of the show is incongruous with that notion so never mind.

[@lilsuperskurrphlex1838]

Amber litteraly went to talk to another dude at a frat party by herself talkin about she’s single just because mark was busy saving her life… and she apparently knew… she’s for the galaxy 🌌

[@squirtlecrazed2813]

fr

[@carinadominguez22]

This hoe would have let Omni Man smash at a certain point.

[@KingPomegranite]

She belongs to the streets

[@ThyBait]

@@bruhmanofyear2647eh I think the only problem with talias being ina relationship is she’s talia.

[@luminaireo4765]

On god, fuck the streets bro 🤣🤣🤣

[@markweber5578]

Amber as a character in the comics had such a good role as part of Mark's overall character arc. In the comic Amber thinks Mark is a drug dealer because he has a beeper and is constantly running away. After the college incident she expresses her justified anger and Mark admits that he is a superhero. This refreshes their relationship a little bit because now he has a good excuse for why he's been so flakey but ultimately it doesn't change anything for Amber. Mark is still not around and despite the fact that he has a good reason that still leaves Amber alone so Amber and Mark finally break up on good terms. Amber is not a main character. She is almost completely gone after their relationship ends. She should just disappear now. Forever.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Also, she was more accepting of him being a hero in their relationship. When she found out, she was overjoyed.

[@idrinkrawmilk554]

Not that this has any relevance, (nor to sound racist) but she was also white, Which makes me think that when the writers turned her black they thought they might have improved her in some way, but obviously didn't do anything. So what was the point of that?

[@markweber5578]

@@idrinkrawmilk554 by improve her you of course mean make her embody the current cultures idea of the "strong female character". Unfortunately this just makes her unlikable. I also like that it is stated by Mark in the comic that the main reasons he got with Amber in the first place was just because she was gorgeous and liked him first. He then has to grow as a human being and become more emotionally substantive. All this progress is removed by making the Amber character and average looking wokester.

[@gamerstheater1187]

@@idrinkrawmilk554 I remember one person said she sounded like a black stereotype

[@markweber5578]

@bruhmanofyear2 by far.

[@gabrielhoran4525]

Anyone who thinks Secret Identities don't actually protect your loved ones has never read Spider-Man comics, especially post Civil War

[@Ghoster820]

Wasn’t there a comic where the Sinister Six go to Peter’s house and at the end Peter dies, but he’s just overjoyed that he was able to save his family

[@illusion9289]

Don't Forget Bane practically killing Alfred in Arkham Origins

[@biiyen8458]

@@Ghoster820 yeah that last stand was the perfect send-off to Peter

[@creepynoone7437]

@@Ghoster820 Yeah, if I remember correctly that was in Ultimate Sider-Man, before they introduced Miles Morales.

[@espurrseyes42]

Since Spidey was brought up, keep in mind that Doc Oc/Otto Octavius in the PS4 game knew Peter was Spidey since he saw his beat up suit (because he's not stupid enough to buy that "I make Spidey's suits" lie), and at any time after he turned evil could've sicked the Sinister Six on the people Peter loved to punish him for meddling with his plans. So yeah, secret identities. Important. If the wrong people find out you're [superhero], your enemies can find the important people in your life and go after them to hurt you.

[@biiyen8458]

In the words of Andrew Garfield's Amazing Spider-Man: "No one seems to get the concept of the mask."

[@gamerstheater1187]

That’s what the mask is, that’s what the point of the mask is

[@backwurds9195]

@@gamerstheater1187 😂

[@tyroberts8586]

my question is: how the hell did she know it was Mark? without the show giving us a moment showing Amber found out she just suddenly said she knew Mark was a superhero after he nearly died fighting a cyborg and got pummeled (On Live TV) by the world's biggest hero......who also happen to be his father

[@girosvaldodeskate2214]

​@@tyroberts8586 maybe she just said lol he looks like mark and then noticed that invincible saving the world was always when mark failed to show up

[@CutWat]

​@@gamerstheater1187dream put the mask back on 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@OrtegaSauce]

"She did the mature thing and ended it" then did the immature thing and went back to him after he went through a horribly traumatic experience where it took weeks for him to even start to recover from it

[@Necrotaku999]

Yeah thats what you do when you care about someone, thats how women get into toxic relations they think time will change their partner, mark and amber are going to break up agaim, just this time mark wont be a lying absent asshole

[@Necrotaku999]

@bruhmanofyear2 pls never have a relation

[@Necrotaku999]

@bruhmanofyear2 no wonder your first one failed, as the second its going to do if it hadnt done already with your misoginistic point of view

[@OrtegaSauce]

@@Necrotaku999 could you elaborate?

[@Necrotaku999]

@bruhmanofyear2" literally cheating" wow the desvirtuing of "literally" its hitting hard, she just dumped him very hard and tryed for a rebound, but its cheating because *checks notes* ah yes you are a misoginistic brainlet that cant comprehend that amber was in her right to dump mark And the identity thing its ridiculous she never lied, she told him nearly every other chapter "have fun saving the world" instead of goodbye, she was trying to hint to him that she knew he is a superhero (i mean it was pretty obvious for anyone in that universe with both real supers and comic books featuring superheroes) So yes, its misogiiny you guys dont like amber because its not a generic mary jane that just pouts a little when she its disrespected massively by getting her time wasted massively by her partner, instead of doing the ralistic thing and dumping the shitty partner

[@3deanimations557]

I love how doom, the most testosterone filled game to exist is the background he chooses to talk about women's status quo. Freaking Legend.

[@gamerstheater1187]

It gives the same energy as me with my Minecraft skin talking about bendy and the ink machine

[@ChNiNe09]

I love how one of the comments said that Amber felt she was left out. Left out from what exactly? Fighting aliens with laser guns that turn you into jelly and other super human villans that defy human common sense? Sure, that will be fun.

[@arandomguy3222]

they meant she was "left out" from the attention he was giving to saving lives instead of being with her, which gives more reasoning on why amber is an extremely selfish self-center character

[@Fure2]

So Amber is mad he lied even though it was to protect her? And the lies were lame and make her feel stupid? Mark literally has the weight of the entire world on his shoulders and is 17 years old (the guardians and his dad are out of commission and he thinks his dad is being targeted by whomever killed the guardians). He's not going to have time or the will to think up grandiose stories to cover his ass in a relationship. Yeesh. If I were Mark I'd just dump her. But he's only 17 and it's his first relationship, so I get it.

[@harrisonhurst6480]

Thats the issue. She does not care for Mark or what he is going through. Its all about her and how she feels and what she feels she is entitled to

[@ditchfood8047]

​@@harrisonhurst6480Exaclty. She doesnt care about Mark, she just cares about the attention he gives her. She values him worshipping the ground she walks on, that's why shes mad why he chooses to save lives instead of kiss her feet.

[@Lit-E]

@@ditchfood8047 The irony is that it sounds familiar to real life modern women and is probs the only good job they did possibly unknowingly lol

[@nicholas2153]

I think the Amber situation was caused by the writers deciding last minute to do the "Amber knew all along" twist. I don't think it was set up at all, I believe they were going along with the story with the understanding that she didn't know. Hence why she freaked out when Mark flaked on her during a robot attack buy for whatever reason changed their minds last second to Amber knowing all along.

[@brandonjones5879]

I think in their attempt to make Amber more relevant and a more significant character, they just went overboard. In the original comics, Amber isn’t really a thing until after Omni-Man gets outed. I believe they went out once before but the bulk of their relationship happen after Nolan left Earth.

[@Vivisekta]

The doom meme was pretty based

[@latviandragon2718]

nah its overused garbage

[@yaboydarth_anky4248]

@@latviandragon2718 your just not based my gamer

[@gasterjr3533]

@@latviandragon2718 cringe

[@gamerstheater1187]

@@latviandragon2718 the ability to speak does not make you intelligent

[@latviandragon2718]

@bruhmanofyear2 dude I hate all 3 of them

[@RedrumZombies]

29:28 Comparing a Teenage Superhero, to a destructive Alcoholic..... Bruh..... WTF is that guy smoking??? And she could see "Invincible" in the news and what he did and happened to him... So she should've understood him at the minimum and to tell him she knows now... [

[@muslimchip5380]

Did they delete their account lol

[@obikenobodyasked7930]

This man needs a bigger audience to educate because all of the things he is saying actually make sense

[@gamingawaywithmaqsood7902]

bro I fucking love this guy ,he is one of the very few that uses actual facts while also making it entertaining and is also morally strong .

[@dragonstryk7280]

If they had removed Amber's "I've known for weeks" line, that in itself would've been a huge step up. Yeah, they still break up, cause finding out he's Invincible *still* means he's been lying to her multiple times, but she could have apologized for calling Mark a coward, since no, he didn't just run off and leave them to the murder-cyborgs. This still would have accomplished the break, but without making Amber into the bad guy here. Her knowing creates the problem in the narrative. If she didn't know, then it makes perfect sense she's upset about Mark running off, because she didn't have the context of him running off. It makes sense that she's resentful, because as far as she knows, Mark's been flaking off on her since they got together in the first place, only to then have Mark run off and leave her for dead. Anyone would be understandably pissed off about that, and the revelation, instead of getting Mark out of the trouble, only hurts Amber because she now realizes he's been lying to her, which again, is absolutely understandable, especially for a high schooler.

[@adamjensen4459]

I’m so disappointed by the ruining of Amber’s character in this show. In the comics she is such a good person to Mark. I hope they just cast tv Amber to the wayside soon and have Eve get with him already like in the comics. Also, I enjoyed Seth Rogen’s portrayal of Allen but with seeing how much involvement Allen has in the overall story from the comics, I feel a bit concerned with having Seth Rogen doing his voice. However, I do feel hopeful and think it was a good choice nonetheless.

[@gamerstheater1187]

Well not all book adaptations are perfect

[@adamjensen4459]

@@gamerstheater1187 Exactly my point. Amber sucks in the show. Also, I don’t expect it to be perfect. I expect it to be better than what it is. I’m not naive to the fact that all forms of entertainment have flaws and imperfections. Definitely not to the point that I need some random guy telling me to curb my expectations and bring no meaningful addition to the conversation. With how much involvement the original creators have with the tv adaptation I’m allowed to expect better when it comes to the writing of Amber in the show. Butt out or bring something to the table that can be discussed. Not some half baked generalization that attempts to undermine the points that I’m trying to draw attention to. Nothing’s perfect, eh? I never coulda thunk of that! 🤪

[@Pdasniper]

I think a lot of people felt that there was something wrong with Amber in the series, but failed to see how the show itself portrayed Amber in a good light. Thus a lot of opinions about how Amber could be explained in the second season and such

[@clairegresswell]

Excellent cognitive reasoning, hilarity throughout & justified conclusions. Just found your channel & will definitely be staying for the review & debate 😊

[@korzaofeden6450]

I just realized this amber in the show sucks and so does the one real life, that may have been a warning we didn’t see coming

[@davecapozzi6530]

I think they wrote Amber that way so we would hate her. She's the self absorbed SJW archetype, this generation's version of the "pain in the ass girlfriend" trope, and another burden for Mark to face. I think your response to her is exactly what the writers were looking for.

[@pinhead1627]

I hope so. She's such a terrible character and I hope they get rid of her in season 2, but I'm not betting on it. Atom Eve is much better.

[@ditchfood8047]

I dont think so because his friends then defend her actions and then say Mark was in the wrong which is just like the show saying Amber is good and right.

[@marknezanuto]

It may be if nor other characters including marks friends saying that mark is wrong one.

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

So, the grade A Asshole Breadtuber who makes us leftists look like schizoids?

[@andraw4002]

Who do you think wrote the show? Conservative intellectuals?

[@Vivisekta]

We still haven't heard him pronounce morgue correctly D:

[@shawno8253]

Im not even done with section 2 but you just earned my sub. Not only do you make sound arguments but you also substantiate them. ( Just learned that word form you BTW )

[@nashbickford9894]

“You’ve always been a door mat” that was the best thing ever

[@Volvith]

"My body my choice, except, _with only one body involved in this case."_ Incomprehensibly based.

[@dagothurgaming7016]

The youtube algorithm has blessed me with this great channel.

[@fableshearth2457]

"Doom is based. It's that simple." I'm printing that one out that's a good quote.

[@alex1vid]

omg Amber... Amber and the ill-logic around her character is typical Hollywood pandering. The awful logic of her character reminded me of the wife (ex) in "Crazy Stupid Love" who cheated on her husband, served him with divorce papers and BLAMED HIM for her cheating and divorce - only to get angry at him for dating and moving on. And Hollywood still tried hard to position the guy as the monster. That's Hollywood! They made Amber a narcissist - and a dangerous one that would value her validation over lives.

[@lebarondeminuit3580]

I love your videos, keep going I feel at home here, you're a channel I needed a long time ago

[@sirgamer3795]

LUMOSHROOM, you are a lad! First video of yours I've ever seen was the invincible one about Amber... loved it, loved the debate in the comments, and just when I thought I had gotten my dose of Internet, this wee gem is next in line (thanks algorithm), and thanks SHROOM for rhe Content liked, subscribed can't wait for the next one!

[@jesustakethewheel6958]

this is my first day of school

[@voltbot1887]

well it’s important to get some Education here and there

[@M1L06OOI]

well worded and very understandable, I'm glad you make no room for misunderstandment

[@inferno8444]

I completely agree with your points, Amber was really in the wrong and season one would've been much better if she were actually worked on. The part about what you said you would do is something I also agree with. Mark is a hero who saves people's lives as best as he can, countless people will be saved by him whereas his time with Amber could possibly be interrupted. I in fact would've been fine with Mark having "Lied" to me because I am not equal to the countless people he would go on to save.

[@SnuggleKingHS]

Watched the original Amber video and this piece. Completely agree with you, but I think while you pointed out all angles in "you lied to me about the secret I already know" situation, most frustrating for me was her behavior on the Uni camp, where she was going ham about how she left her in danger and isn't a real protector\man character. If she already knew, he's Invincible, that makes this fight completely - utterly! - empty, since he was the one who actually saved her. Either you know and acknowledge him helping you or you don't know and go into fit about cowards. Somehow show decided to have both, while it looks like a plot hole.

[@ihonestlycantthinkofaname3763]

Something that I wanted to point out simply because I found it funny was how he genuinely sounded a little upset when people were pointing out his pronunciation of Morgue as morgoo, he meant it as a joke but they didn't know that, so when it was pointed out he got upset and self defensive about it.

[@anneklj]

how anyone can defend Amber is beyond me

[@guaranteedtopwn]

grats on 20k

[@johnnyjoestar6478]

I mean I guess I understand the Amber argument of "we dont know her backstory" Which alright fair enough I guess But the same counter point to that argument is she could be a serial baby killer and puppy kicker which makes her character even worse You cant base a judgement of someone on things you dont know without any sort of hint to those unknowns being revealed prior

[@nicholasrussell7979]

Went back to watch your "mark did nothing wrong" video and felt the overall premise and criticism of Amber being badly written due to one line screwing up the entire premise of her character build up to that point (along with 98% of your counterpoints) is fairly solid, both there and in this video, better than most critics covering Amber I've watched. My only nit pick gripe (the 2%) really, would particularly be for Eve's criticism of Mark after the whole affair. William's criticism felt like nonsense, but I think Eve's criticism was in direct relation to Mark dragging out the whole deal without saying anything, particularly when she went out of her way to bat for him. I felt (or if you prefer deduced) in her case, her argument against Mark was kept simple because her statement was more of a reactionary response to Mark saying she told her not to say anything, rather than an overall reflection of his character in the relationship. I say this because (and I'm willing to concede that I missed something; it's been a while) from what I understand, that Eve's only knowledge of the situation would be either coming from what Mark told her or what she may have found online, seeing as she has service out where she lives. And from what we get from that conversation between Eve and Mark before she made that response, it did seem that to some extent she was still sympathetic to Mark. My point being, while conceding that it is a nitpick, that I think that generalizing all of the side characters being against Mark for the same reason or even extreme might be pushing it. I think Eve's criticism, while reactionary, can be more reflective of the actual neglectful/naive but aspiring and compassionate part of Mark's character and his role in the relationship, whereas William's criticism was just needlessly antagonistic.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Yeah no. I hated how they had Eve say Mark is at fault in the relationship. Because Eve is a superhero herself and should know what it feels to be having so much power and responsibility, while trying to balance both out. Including being in a relationship. It doesn't make sense for Eve to criticize Mark, when she probably would have been in the same situation if she was dating a non-superhero, instead of Rex. Because Mark telling Amber his secret identity, is the equivalent to sharing his credit card number with her, especially when their relationship has been only SIX MONTHS.

[@SteelTalons1]

@@osmanyousif7849 I will concede that i forgot to factor her own relationship with Rex to account. I still stand that it wouldn't have hurt the writing for Eve to say what she said to Mark even if she was being irrational. However, the fact that the show doesn't address her faults with her relationship in that same manner as it does with Mark is suspect and should be factor in much the same way as Amber being a hypocrite. I will grant the notion that given how well the characters are written (for the most part) in season 1, that the writers were being careless with the romance element of the story rather than malicious. Again however, that courtesy will go right out the window if the writers don't address the criticism properly. If instead of addressing in any real way how Ambers decisions may have hurt Mark more than it helped or if there's no addressing any faults objectively in regards to Eves relationships (which i still feel wouldn't be that hard); and instead opt to try and post-rationalize both of their decisions as some sort of tired progressive virtue signaling trope in season 2. Then frankly at that point, both Eve and Amber being hypocrites will be the least of my frustrations.

[@johnsmithe8870]

I’m actually agree with this, it seems eve was more focused on how mark handled that part of the relationship, and from a certain perspective it actually makes sense. Not only is it seeing things purely from eves perspective, it fits her character ideology. It can even be said that she’s speaking in relation to how Rex made her feel in the later part of their relationship. That being said Amber reeeeeeaaaalllllyyyy made no sense to me, and Marks other friend(forgot his name) seemed like he was just talking to talk

[@SM-cv8sv]

@@osmanyousif7849 It's worse then that. Spoilers below: Eve was kidnapped as a child by the fucking government. Though she escaped, her parts died in order for her to do so. NO WAY IN Hell Would she ever reveal her identity to a non super.

[@ArisTheInquring]

commenting for algorithm points

[@phillybuster418]

His Responsibility to the world is much more important that his responsibility to her. If she can't deal with that she shouldnt be with him. That simple

[@ethanthamouse6695]

this is exactly what i said in reference to superheros .......peter parker and mj they have been through it all hell petey proposed to her like three times in the comics and due to past experiences with her family she denied em BUT she did truly love peter and in turn trusted peter aswell as worked on herself from within and married him ...throughout there realtionship as with many other they split up sometimes cause they stress and various other mental hazards for the relationship is ...well yeah i applaud you for explaining that you would either let them know that you knew and in turn work with them to have more communication id assume in the form of knowing where they are going/more what the situation is in terms of crisis OR you talk with and leave them cause you couldnt handle the potential risk of it all and that is okay also both of those would be logical and show that you or that person took a second and thought it all out

[@mr_rombo9475]

seeing as how you made this a year ago you probably wont see it but im for some reason very anoyed at how the guns in doom are in the middle of the screeen at all times.

[@mr_rombo9475]

@Bob Ross bro i know i was just nitpicking the video was great

[@spiceforspice3461]

@Bob Ross It's not even a mod, it's a feature in doom 2016.

[@iwaswithyourmum]

First 10 minutes earned you a new sub.

[@MichaelKLee-jf7qs]

That's funny I just played through Blacklist, had a really hard time accepting Sam's voice actor change. It hurts me bones😭

[@vinniepowell7438]

Just found this channel, and this guy speaks facts 👍

[@fableshearth2457]

The writers of the show did amber dirty. She was actually a good character in the comics and had real depth.

[@GiovanniDeluxxe]

🇿🇦 Legend In The Making

[@kyleshetley204]

Great video :)

[@MephobiaMan]

I’m actually surprised about the amount of people trying to justify amber’s behavior

[@ScrapKnight2005]

"Believing that the mass exploitation of women under the false pretence of it being empowering for anyone involved *is cringe* ." Most based quote in 2021.

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

Still the most based quote in 2023.

[@Axelrun1994]

I feel like I'm listening to a young, balls to the wall Jordan Peterson. I appreciate the eloquently and well thought out opinions and data study references. You have a new sub. And at this point I pray that ill informed people with uni-dimensional perspectives don't all go into old age being this proudly ignorant. Some of those comments had me feeling tired just from trying to navigate the devolving mind, responsible for the origin of some of those thoughts and opinions. Sheesh

[@troysgt]

@ 23:19 I know I’m a year late, but your assessment of Amber and Invincible is spot on. I appreciate your evaluation that Mark taking amber back at the end actually diminishes him, he had grown beyond her and she didn’t change at all. She is still demanding he bend to her every whim as though she is the queen of England. Her perspective on the situation is abismal. What makes it worse is Mark has an amazing roll model in his mom as to how he can expect a reasonable, unpowered woman, to respect his responsibilities he has taken on for himself in this hero life. She has demonstrated how to love and live well with someone dramatically different then herself and to love and respect those differences. She doesn’t demand unreasonable actions or have absurd expectations of her time with omniman. She has the opposite. She expects interruptions and cancelations, but undivided and special attention when the emergency has ended.

[@Lit-E]

21:54 rant perfectly encapsulates the entire issue and destroys any disagreements

[@ozb1010]

I mean if amber was mind controlled during the scene with Mark that would justify the scene

[@3deanimations557]

thats such lazy writing tho

[@dimitriostsiampalis364]

His friends need to be mindcontrolled too though

[@rigamarooh]

Or that she actually didnt know and she just said that to make him feel shocked as like a clapback

[@ozb1010]

@@3deanimations557 agreed but it was the only thing I could think of

[@chrisdanokkers9979]

Look mom, a time capsule #justiceforjohnny

[@robertadams73]

Okay first time watcher but I don't understand how people are quick to argue with logic behind their bases and fall apart so quickly when a simple questioning of their own ideals would lead them to the same or similar conclusions. What happend to questioning yourself to see if you are right?? And it isn't just a matter of right or wrong, but also of how it makes you and others feel. In other words for those who don't understand I agree with you logic fully.

[@user-ub2tc1mt1y]

That witch is not amber thats a self insert that replaced amber

[@donaldkent4950]

Most everyone in the professional world never goes into depth about what they do for work because their employer would fire them for spreading proprietary information. A secret identity isnt that much worse, considering how much more is at stack.

[@kashmoney63]

Yea I gotta say any attempt at justification or her behavior is just stupid. She publicly belittled the man that put his life on the line for hers. But I do disagree about her being where the show took a nosedive character wise. For me that was William, imagine getting into relationship issues because you saved your friends and that same friends still tell you that you are the problem.

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

I consider it even more fucked up that he doesn't just risk his life for her, he does it for completely random people who he likely won't ever even see again, he is selfless in his desire to do right, and she still shit all over him.

[@piggy1356]

That doormat comment was fucking amazing😭

[@prismknight353]

Would you care for a like in these trying times?

[@kuromon20]

30:00 listen at 1.5 speed. Mordin solus from Mass Effect 100% 😂 pretty good

[@dannydeedsdonedirtcheep1726]

What games are you playing in the background?

[@LUMOSHROOM]

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Splinter Cell: Blacklist Doom God of War The Last of Us Spider-Man

[@dannydeedsdonedirtcheep1726]

@@LUMOSHROOM Thank you

[@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954]

That guy compared being a superhero to alcoholism? Really?

[@johnsmithe8870]

So I’m not sure if I misunderstood that later part of the wind river segment or not, but if that isn’t the case then I’d have too strongly disagree. While I don’t believe that wind river was trying to say that other races need white saviors to solve their problems, this is still an argument that can be applied validly to pieces of art and media today. I believe the movie was more focused on evil crimes and the far reaching scars and pain it leaves, but I can’t say that the argument mentioned doesn’t have weight to modern pieces of art and cinema, it truly does. I completely disagree that this argument applies to this movie, but to say that no mainstream piece of art or media falls under its umbrella or deserves this allegation is simply wishful thinking. All of that being said, I don’t actually think that’s what you meant, and I either misheard/misunderstood you or you misarticulated, especially because it doesn’t seem to fit your previous reasoning and view on why it doesn’t apply to the movie. Anyways love ur videos

[@nathanroyster1324]

Chefs kiss 🤌🏾

[@MrWinnieP]

Articulate, direct, clear a great debater. Being a product (pun intended) of the consumerist society I was raised in I immediately want to lazily adopt your well thought out opinions as they require intelligence and effort to make and are pretty air tight and the leaks it does have are mostly attributed to subjective personal preference. But I will forcefully reject that immediate impulse and scrutinize to form my own opinion as a response. Here’s to using my own brain 🧠.

[@lucidlythinking857]

Love the nuance.

[@minirichiPap]

about legalizing s3x workers, I didn't watch your first video on the topic but about what you said on this video: legalizing s3x work is about making things less bad for the workers, with legalization there can be regulation and we can go after pimps which are the real bad guys at this story. Sure it would be better if there weren't the economic need for people to submit themselves to this but for that we would have to establish a new economic system first and that takes time so in the mean time legalization could enhance the quality of life of people who need to go into these works

[@voltbot1887]

28:30 INVINCIBLE FACTS!

[@BruhMoment-qw1cs]

What game is the one in the background

[@dillie1232]

what game is in the first clip

[@jadelord7059]

Bro this guy is based take my subscribe

[@Volvith]

If you have to stoop to comparing alcoholism to being a literal superhero on the scale of Superman himself, in order to give your argument even the remotest semblance of validity... I'm sorry, but at that point you've already lost the argument by default. Amber is completely self centered, manipulative, uncompassionate, uncaring, ungrateful, unremorseful, and the damn pinnacle of unlikable. There is not a single redeeming trait other than 'i'm doing charity work', but even then she uses it as moral justification for all the other socially reprehensible actions she regularly engages in, so to some degree i would even argue that her doing charity with THAT motivation makes her WORSE, not better. That girl highlights some of the most toxic elements you can find in a relationship; Making you feel worthless, breaking you down to raise herself up, guilt tripping you over her own faults, not investing anything into the relationship other than 'i grant you my presence', having such a staggering degree of entitlement that nothing you do can satisfy her wants nor no amount of justification can make good the lack of attention she thinks you owe her. I've said it before and i'll say it again, make a list of character flaws you avoid, give that list to 20 friends and ask them to do the same, write "Amber" on top of the list, and viola _you've now got her character profile on 1 sheet of paper._ If your relationship looks ANYTHING like Mark's and Amber's, *_L E A V E._* Nothing good will come of that. For your own health, drop that. No matter how deeply ingrained your self devaluation is, they've not earned you. And if there's no prospect of things EVER getting better, evacuate and cut all ties. It'll suck for 3 months, and then you'll realize just how much color the world has, and how much they drained from you.

[@NoyzBocks]

For stupid people like me. Here's a sum of the video: Emotions are cringe and facts are based

[@The_Punisher]

Did delete your other Amber video?

[@crowofill-will2551]

28:24 That shit was great. Lol

[@Niaz_S]

You could go about confronting flawed opinions in a more inviting way, you know...actually inspire people to speak their mind with how you respond rather than just saying it in your videos.

[@dimitriostsiampalis364]

Maybe it's a language barrier, but I don't understand you comment

[@arandomguy3222]

@@dimitriostsiampalis364 he's saying the creator of the video could respond to comments in a more polite way since sometimes while making his argument he can sound "harsh" maybe its just cause his tone, i don't have a problem about it but people you may call "snowflakes" would most definitely get discouraged to make a comment stating their takes and opinions knowing he may respond in a way that can be described as harsh

[@dymoure]

Invincible S2 can easily introduce a childhood flashback that explains why Amber feels like she needs to compensate for being a know-it-all. I don’t think Amber is poorly-written. Then again, I’m under the impression that Amber lied about knowing Mark is a superhero. Actually, I don’t even think William defending her is poorly-written. He’s not a superhero, so he doesn’t fully understand. Mark even makes this clear. I would say Eve is the ONLY one who makes me tilt my head for defending Amber. She should’ve been supportive of Mark and accused Amber of being selfish. It’s obvious Eve has a crush on Mark too, so she should 100% support him. BUT… Eve was literally just cheated on, so she probably has a bit of a “men are trash” mentality during S1. So as far as I’m concerned, things aren’t poorly-written. The drama is just messy and not in Mark’s favor right now. Which… the point was to make Mark feel isolated at the end of S1, so it’s actually brilliantly written. I love the relationships in Invincible, and I personally think they’re doing a great job. I think us debating whether Amber is good for Mark, or debating whether she did anything wrong, only proves the show is keeping things interesting, and still surprising and contemporizing new aspects into the story. It’s still surprising people like me, who’ve read all the comics. It’s clear Amber isn’t supposed to be likable. It’s clear she’s toxic. I think S2 will touch on that, and I have faith they will.

[@dzel3792]

W about amber, couldn't stand her ass. Wanted to like her but she didn't give me any reason to. She seemed more selfish to me than anything :/

[@dedcoronet]

What’s the game at 3:43?

[@techbro_4309]

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist

[@opticalduck2587]

11:15-11:38, fantastic

[@TheMrShanmao]

10:50 I feel like the example interpretation isn't really an optimistic connection, more so a... cringe/edgy way of seeing things; the same way a guy believes in the old way of dating by ordering for their partner without knowing their tastes. I myself am an optimist, and even I don't see that as uplifting... it do be kinda autistic if someone saw it like that >_>

[@MrGodsNomad]

When it comes to the Mark v Amber discussion. I’m not going to spend time rebasing well made points. Like it or not there is a reference to the character known as Amber in the invisible universe and she is top to bottom better then character assassination that is displayed on screen in the show. The graphic novel proves that this wasn’t as big of conflict because the Red head Amber is was more responsible with her emotional expression then the one from the show. To be charitable, I will state my personal beliefs. I do feel in the heat of what was going on in comics, and mass media that the writers and show runners put themselves in an non winnable environment by swapping the ethnicity of the Amber character. The best expression being, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. If the intentions where to craft a better story. I have outlined that there is a Chekhov's gun moment when Mark had the Mars mission and bring Amber a Mars rock. Only for it to never be brought up again. That rock would be the only way her knowing that Mark was invisible. And even if true thats ‘s she found out. It doesn’t excuse Amber being in the middle of a villain arch lol. So the fact that Amber from the show shows non of the traits from her counterpart from the comics proves that the show version of amber could have been a better representation of toxic/ messy first relationship. Side note; The successful show Mark naive nature better through his interaction with criminal muscle known as Titan. As Mark is taken advantage by the villain through good intentions on Marks part. If Amber had been a different character to show Marks views are not only naive with the concept of being a Hero but also with everyday people. Then it would have been a better through line. The important of story over fads

[@jeidenlovell5558]

i would like to say something about Wind River. I am not trying to make a statement on either side of the argument, just bridging an understanding on the real world area. I lived the area for a good while and got to know some of the people there. The people on the wind river rez are very very family oriented, not just blood related family either. they try and succeed to treat everyone on the rez as their own. They also harbor an understandable grudge against white people for the treatment of their peoples in history. It is an understandable grudge, but more importantly one they do not let get in the way of trying to build better connections where others wont. They are a strong people, and will approach everyone from outside their land with apprehension. But show them you mean nothing but good will or at least no involvement and they will leave you alone. This toleration and acceptance is something only the strongest of people have.

[@kouros0]

well said, you have such a good vocabulary also you don't need to take comments that serious

[@baguetteboing]

i would vote for you if you ran for president

[@jackwagon573]

Personally, from a creative perspective. I dont like sex in the media because its never done right. If u wanna make a badass female character, give her a tragic backstory, character arks, genuine emotions, and a fitting attitude. But these days all they do is add boobs, and make em OP as hell with no explanations. Same on the other end, male characters are either viewed as either the stupid, pretty, or wierd guy. They are only want they should be and never what they can be. There is no room for aggressive expansion only what makes em money. Its sad cuz these sex stereo types are just advertised on TV

[@juanchitaro5380]

I'm blown away by this Illuminaty red pilled people. I'm always willing to accept there's more to a movie than what I can get from it at the moment; but I really liked "Eyes wide shut", and it had nothing to do with it exposing a puppeteering dark sect. What I saw was a commentary on how the institutions that sustain our societies are and always will be under threat of corruption by the eternal depravity that humans are capable of. Kind of like a question: what hope is there for love, marriage, families and other social institutions in a world that is always trying to get away with the satisfaction of it's most animalistic and depraved desires? And, for what I got, there wasn't a clear or optimistic answer at the end, that is why it's such a tough movie to watch. If it's really only about the illuminaty, I can't help to be fairly less interested in it. We live in a sufficiently enough clown world as it is; no need for secret ancient sects to be behind it all.

[@Greyfoxdbz18]

I hated Amber the same way I hated Iris West from the Flash. Same type of personality. Really annoying, selfish and illogical.

[@georges-leeeugene2905]

I have a tip for your videos: shorten some of the things you say from being obscenely long. It's a good video but for example, the intro was hard to listen to because it sounds like a college student trying to fill the word count for an essay. Using big long words and dragging the intro when it could have been shorter and easy to listen to.

[@detigerboy-376]

Actually the extensive display of vocabulary is one of my favorite parts of his style. Makes it a lot more engaging than the sort of plain text stuff you get in buzfeed style videos with only short common words.

[@fancygaming3294]

I gotta say there's one thing i disagree with here. I think that amber has a chance of redemption as long as the writers decide to mark these tantrums as flaws in the eyes of the show. That would ground her character and if she gave a heartfelt apology and actually had some interesting flaws that she admits too like, not being able to admit that she is wrong or being egotistical then we could get characterdevelopment, and an actual character instead of an insufferable result of writers being forced to follow politcal standards

[@canadianrage5224]

If we actually learn there is a root cause for Ambers behaviour, that won’t change a single thing. Why? Because if she actually faced a traumatic experience centring around the concept of trust, then she should have left Mark when she found out the truth for herself. The only rational reason she’d willingly stay with him after finding out the truth, has to be out of revenge. Staying with him gave her the leverage to continue gaslighting Mark into making him feel like shit, because she knew he wouldn’t be able to explain himself without revealing his secret identity, which is something he clearly doesn’t want to do, for the sake of her own protection. And if you think she wanted to give Mark time to tell her for himself, and when he did it was simply too late, then clearly whatever she *might* have gone through, wasn’t actually that traumatic. Someone with actual trauma centring around trust, would have just left him when she found of the truth. So the fact that she stayed, just so she could dump more stress in his life when she known he’s out there risking his own life to save others, is actually psychotic behaviour. There is no way her actions could ever be redeemed or at the very least understood.

[@inciniumz4671]

Good video, but you were pretty harsh to that Faceup Hoy guy, he's just trying to be an optimist and you're being rather rude to him for that

[@KaoticReach1999]

Wow, the fact you got ANY crap for pointing out how ridiculously toxic and manipulative Amber is, really goes to show how we get such crazy self-insert crap like it The comments against you being "bad-takes" is being modest, such willfully ignorant people are as toxic as...well... ironically, Amber Seriously just ad hominem or pointing out minor things like pronunciations instead of having an actual argument. I don't agree with things you've expressed in the EWS video, but I wouldn't need to gaslight to express it. Did get a kick outta the DOOM analogy of being the Thot Destroyer xD

[@dimitriostsiampalis364]

Bro you are way too based for this platform. Please tell me you have backups in case some rancid people cancel you

[@3deanimations557]

this video is based

[@frimi8593]

In your original WAP video you DID in fact say that women’s sexual liberation leads to prostitution via pimping when in fact the opposite is the case. You deny it because you have no argument against it. When you imply that every sex worker is a human trafficking victim or a child prostitute you are being willfully ignorant

[@Cynwale]

Prostitutes didn't wait for feminism to exist.

[@frimi8593]

@@Cynwale great point, so we better hurry up to make sex work safe for all parties, seeing as sex workers don’t just stop existing when people stop talking about them

[@warcrimeconnoisseur5238]

​@@frimi8593Hhhmmm yes acceleration of degeneracy and hedonism, my favourit of the Western people

[@frimi8593]

@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238 define degeneracy and explain why it’s bad. Then explain the issues with hedonism and how anything I said propagates those issues

[@warcrimeconnoisseur5238]

@@frimi8593 Degeneracy in the fact that people further drift torward materialism and hedonism because the more it is accepted the more will do it, as we see in the West, especially in the US, by making it acceptable and easy to get you push young men to people like Tate. You can try to normalise it all you want but men will see women in this kind of work always as nothing more than meat, that will transfer to all women at some point, as it is now with certain sites in place, it does nothing to the trafficker because it changed nothing in my nation, it will do nothing for acceptance because it changed nothing in my nation, it's the same with drugs, the suffering is just bigger. There was once a time where women in this line of work were respected but it was because sex wasnt something purely materialistic and they didn't do it for money, the goal was to achieve a higher metaphysical state, which in our times clearly isnt the focus anymore

[@voltbot1887]

28:25 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@voltbot1887]

eh i hated ambers character anyway