296. The Nazis: The Beer Hall Putsch

[@mikecrampton9126]

Everyone needs to read more Thomas Mann. All of it. Buddenbrooks -> The Magic Mountain -> Doctor Faustus. Everything about this series is there. And it's damn good.

[@farmertomas]

I am new to your amazing podcast series. Danke! In this episode I was thrilled to hear Dominic mention Babylon Berlin, which I agree is amazing. Watching it and listening to your shows helps me understand what is was like for my Mom growing up, very young, during the Weimar Republic period. So, could you do a series on Babylon Berlin, bitte?

[@simonprodhan5050]

superb stuff

[@fastpublish]

It's a little known fact that the German soccer team was severely restricted to 2/3 of its pre-war talent by the Versailles Treaty, and, more importantly, completely prohibited from taking part in penalty shoot-outs during international competitions

[@IndiaTides]

Now that's completely unfair. That is why the Nazism risen.

[@brianpollard4350]

There wasn't anything particularly sophisticated about the Dawes Plan. It was basically a circular financial model highly beneficial to the U.S.A. American banks loaned enormous amounts of money to Germany. Germany used these funds to pay reparations principally to France and Great Britain. Those countries, e.g., Great Britain and France, in turn used such money substantially to repay their massive war loans from the U.S.A. At least in the short range, the plan was remarkably successful. Charles Dawes was a clever gentleman.

[@whodoobucrew2960]

The greatest money laundering scheme of all time

[@MyPerennial]

Great episode, thank you

[@jimb9063]

Nicely done chaps. Now I understand the premise of that channel 5 documentary about the Nazis obsession with the Yakult.

[@michaelbedford8017]

Is that like a 'Ballroom Blitz'?

[@TimL_]

What happened to the recently uploaded old episodes?

[@lakinther7183]

tragedy

[@abdullasaeed9614]

Is there any statement on this?

[@TheAnadromist]

Look under Videos on the channel page. They are all there.

[@abdullasaeed9614]

@@TheAnadromist in my case only 178 no to recent episode are showing. Others are not available.

[@petorian343]

@@TheAnadromist not true, a week or so ago they uploaded older episodes not on KZbin, but they've since removed them.

[@dray6435]

Dan Carlin sent me

[@DanSam48]

When you discussed (around 20 min into it) the French Colonial troops used to occupy part of Germany, you don't mention the hundreds of babies they left behind under circumstances less than consensual.

[@fastpublish]

And yes, it was the British who insisted on the Soccer Protocol.

[@DF-ss5ep]

I feel you let off the Weimar Republic too easily here. Listening about Europe at this time, there is a sense of a democratic wave sweeping through Europe, but it was a premature democracism, people hadn't figured out the best ways to execute it, the electorate was perhaps too naive still, and that wave was being piggy backed on by various other movements and ideologies. If it is true that Nazis and Communists condemned parliamentary democracy, one has to question also if there wasn't a hint of truth to their criticism. It is widely recognized that the republic that was installed in Portugal concomitant with the Weimar republic was of low quality. There wasn't a universal vote, for example. Many factions within it were idealistic, and when they failed to deliver on their vision, scapegoats would take all the blame, be them Jews, speculators, or in the case of Portugal, the catholicism and monarchism, echoing the French Revolution. Both german and portuguese republics relied heavily on the printing of currency (coincidentally, the Fed was created in the US in 1911). They should get some of the blame for the economic problems of their countries.

[@TheOne-er7nk]

Who funded it and who gave him the light sentence? Answer that and you find out who was behind it all.

[@Stashley78]

Who was behind it?

[@Stashley78]

Who funded it and gave him the light sentence?

[@cbirch7302]

Just say Jews you antisemitic coward. You're seriously gonna sit here and say that even *fucking Hitler* was orchestrated by the Jews? Shame on you. Nazi trash.

[@cbirch7302]

Say it you Nazi coward.

[@connorm2024]

Your question is too vague

[@ComedyJakob]

Germany was stabbed in the back, but it was from within their alliance system rather than within their population. They were the best military in both world wars by far, but had the most incompetent allied powers. Take Germany and pair it with France, the UK, or Russia and I have no doubt that they'd have won any European war.

[@CL-we8tn]

True, the treaty of Versailles was a 20 year non aggression pact, so said DeGaule (sp?)

[@TheCornFarmer1989]

Germany simply wasn't stabbed in the back. Germany's army failed to make the breakthrough it needed, Germany was blockaded and starving, Germany's navy mutinied. Yes Germany's allies also collapsed, but this wasn't them betraying Germany. It was just them losing too. As for pairing them, you could say the same for the Ottomans or the Austrians. If only they had been paired with the British they might have won too and not stabbed in the back by Germany and their other allies.

[@Rock33b]

They had the best military when they were beating people who weren’t ready for war, but then when people started fighting back, they didn’t look so great now did they Vyvanse in the Russia Russia didn’t expect all the other attacks. Nobody expected it Whoopty do they conquered France really fast the rest of the countries they conquered were nobodies who weren’t ready to fight and still gave them problems, but when big boys stepped up to fight. They did not handle it well

[@CL-we8tn]

@@Rock33b you've never heard of the schliefen plan have you? The only difference they made to it in ww2 was going through Belgium and alsacelorraine at the same time, effectively halving the army sent to the west. Divide and you will be conquered, classic.

[@plebius]

This time period was the start of airpower as a force multiplier. Germany was not an airpower by any means by October of 1940 when the battle of Britain had failed. They could not match the production of planes from the Allies. They couldn't match production numbers from the UK alone, not to mention the US, or the USSR. Their marine forces were rubbish. Putting them with a different Ally is absolute codswallop. It changes the conflict so much it is not worth discussing. Their military wasn't the best, it was pretty standard. What they had was two fold, they had aggressors early advantage. Where you get to pick when and where you concentrate your forces at the start. Also they knew they were going to war and started a war economy far earlier than any other economy. If you follow any military history channel you will see their equipment was equivalent. Had its flaws just like the allies had. Their tactics were sometimes great and sometimes rubbish. They were a typical army.