Patina on the handle looked more like dirt and grime which does nothing for the finished product. So polish that brass.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Hahah I agree with you in the end though I was very reluctant to polish it at first x)
@willgrime3 жыл бұрын
Hi James, Great video of a great project. Regarding the brass: I think there’s a big difference between a patinated surface and a dirty or corroded one. Patina develops from continued care - cleaning, buffing, oiling, waxing - and a little wear, controlled by care. Just leaving the brass to tarnish is not to leave it patinated, it’s just to leave it uncared for. And I’d love to have seen you make a shoulder strap for the brackets which remain on the closure… Cheers, Will
@yolandeoldham4523 жыл бұрын
I love the cleaned look, going to clean my bags now Ive had the lesson. Thank you
@karolinas78043 жыл бұрын
I love the cleaned look, including the copper! Good job!
@beetrootbytch3 жыл бұрын
Polished brass is the way to go. Like a piece of jewellery or a shiny medical instrument. Great video!
@gaslitworldf.melissab28973 жыл бұрын
Excellent finish. Love the brass look, brought back to a shine.
@dinalander4 жыл бұрын
I love the cleaned look! Beautiful 💕
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Hahah thanks Dina, glad you like it :)
@pippadawg7037 Жыл бұрын
I liked the patina until I saw it cleaned and then I loved the patina which is still there. The patina underneath is still in the details as you pointed out and the contrast is gorgeous. The bag is gorgeous.
@prettypaws31153 жыл бұрын
WOW...Great job. I think cleaning the gold trim was the finishing brilliant touch. Looks like NEW and I luv that look.
@wendyglasgow63943 жыл бұрын
Super job. Can never understand that we all moisturise our skin yet don’t moisturise our leather products. My current bag is 1941 and perfect. Thank you for educating the people.
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
This is so true, thanks for sharing Wendy :)
@jennymacdonald31342 жыл бұрын
Looks fabulous- everything restored just perfect.
@JamesBerry2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jenny, so glad you like it :)
@christopherdrinkard12522 жыл бұрын
Absolutely enjoyed this and learned some things! Thanks for posting, my friend 🙌🏼
@JamesBerry2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, thanks for the comment Christopher!
@IMOO18964 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous, glad you cleaned the brass... it still has patina around the rivets, so it’s not ruined.i have a new saddle leather handbag, that I hope to keep good as new for many years to come.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks Sandra! Yes I agree with you on this, having some of the old patina left around the edges does help give it a very used and worn look without compromising on some nice clean hardware :D Hope you love your bag and keep it in great shape! Good leather is such a wonderful material.
@MarioMejoradoJrMPA2 ай бұрын
I absolutely love that you removed the patina! It looks so beautiful.
@JamesBerry2 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you like it :)
@askunz1 Жыл бұрын
Thx. Helpful instruction. I preferred the brass patina because I prefer welled cared for look over newer.
@mrpinkstuttgart3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the result is worldclass. Thank you, great video!
@DorrisDiaz2 жыл бұрын
I have a very lovely 40 year old handbag, fairly rigid leather, 2 leather handles zip closing all the way round, rigid rectangular base with feet. Some marks which I suspect are oil. Do you think I can give it the same treatment? What would you recommend for the oil-stain?
@VyChazen4 жыл бұрын
I love the bag and finish. The only thing that would make the video better is adding more static views of the bag. The close-ups are great for the details, but static shots further from the bag would give time to admire it all.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vivian for your message! It's sometimes easy, when you've been working for hours on a project, to forget that you need to take a step back and show a bigger picture. I'll make sure to get more wide shots in future :)
@nigelwylie014 жыл бұрын
Hi James. Great video. If it was for me, I would have left the brass work unpolished, or perhaps part-polished, to leave some patina. But it doesn’t really matter what I think if it is for you. If it is for sale, it’s anyone’s guess! One metal finishing tip I’ve picked up from other restorers is French Polish (Shellac). A thin coat will keep metal from re-tarnishing, and maintain the patina in whatever state to which you have carefully restored it. Especially helpful if you are going to sell it, as it keeps it looking as it is in the photos for longer.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the tip, I'll have to look into getting some Shellac for future projects. I was not sure if I wanted to touch the patina at first but my girlfriend insisted and I have come to really like the new look. Totally understand that this is a question of taste and many would prefer it untouched. Thanks for the message :)
@nigelwylie014 жыл бұрын
James, the only problem with shellac, is that when it does eventually wear out, it can crack, and peel. Then it needs to be removed with a solvent and either started again or left alone. As a result, I wouldn’t use it on things I own myself. I prefer a natural patina of age to grow and develop over the decades and centuries. I collect old leatherwork tools to use in my workshop, and I love to see the evidence of the workers who have gone before me.
@78a67h2 жыл бұрын
Very good work, but for the amateur doing the occasional odd restoration I would recommend fewer products. Soapy water would do a good job of initially cleaning the bag and after it dries only one other product to nourish and protect the leather. I would attempt cleaning of and mechanical adjustments to the top metal strips / closing mechanism right at the start.
@grahamhill80184 жыл бұрын
A very nice job. Love the rich colours of the leather, well done.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Graham, glad you like it :)
@barbaraburgdorff70252 жыл бұрын
I loved the clean look. To not remove the tarnish makes it look not aged but dirty !
@JamesBerry2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks glad to hear you like it like this :)
@DannyMcLaneDC2 жыл бұрын
I like the patina look, that being said, the mix of pop rivets on brass makes my skin crawl. I'm in the process of making a bag almost identical to this. And I made sure to match antique brass to antique brass. I normally work in copper, because I think it's so beautiful with dark leather, and it ages well. I think that's the most beautiful thing about well-made leather, is it can last more than a lifetime. I think your final product on this bag looks phenomenal. Well done
@dose.of.pixels3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if this will work on the 135 year old drs bag I have.....
@nurrafidahabrahim Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lesson, I got my old leather luggage bag clean and soft again
@laurie25533 жыл бұрын
I like it much more after you've cleaned the brass plate. Looks great now!!
@saintxbarbie Жыл бұрын
When I think of patina is think of leather and leather only. When it comes to hardware, in my head I view it as tarnish. Have it a little bit tarnished in the corners give it an "antiqued brass" finish but still looks clean and beautiful.
@katybroyles28054 жыл бұрын
Real patina will come back quickly and not look like dirt. Don't worry about polishing brass, especially plated brass.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
I have little experience in this area so I'm very glad to read this :) Thanks for your message!
@nataliebutler Жыл бұрын
Are you using saphir 'polish' (as in shoe polish) or a different conditioning product?
@jadabrowskitom4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, wow!
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tomasz !
@susanjackson24598 ай бұрын
I have my father's 50 year old doctor's bag. It is black and mildewed on the inside. Any suggestions ? tank you
@valeriemonnier925 Жыл бұрын
Bonjour. Le sac est magnifique et vous avez très bien fait d'enlever la patine , c'est propre. Belle restauration.
@JamesBerry Жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup Valérie pour votre message, très content de lire que le résultat final vous plaît :D
@vieuxacadian94554 жыл бұрын
obenaufs or aussie cream is great conditioners after letting the neatsfoot oil to dry . neatsfoot oil is best used around 87 degrees f.
@s.m.m.64032 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Does this same process apply to restoring Frye leather handbags? Have you ever restored a Frye leather handbag? Only asking because their handbags distress very easily. So, I was wondering if the process depends on the type of leather used.
@TheRedbeardster4 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Looks like I need to buy some more Saphir's creme.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Hahah thanks :) Saphir is the best hands down... they have great products for every use you may need, and their huge choice is the only downside as it can be hard at first to figure out which product will work best for you x)
@daddygez4 жыл бұрын
The patina on the metalwork looked more like tarnish, so a polish was the way to go. It will re-age in time. Nicely done.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gerry for your message, glad you agree with me on this and happy to read you like the final result :D
@chrismills51103 жыл бұрын
Patina is largely dirt: It can stay if it looks good. If not, clean it away. On furniture, it is a mix of polish and dirt which looks good
@mickfromaustralia9024 жыл бұрын
Nice video (as always). I'll go against the trend here and I feel that the bag now looks rather new. The metal's tarnish or patina added something for me. Cheerio, and others will disagree.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mick for the message! It's nice to see how mixed each person's views are on patina and all I can say hear is that both have a lot of charm ;)
@dandydriver34663 жыл бұрын
I think it had oxidation not patina and therefore I believe you took the right decision. Most metal will never get patina or nothing very noticeable. Leather however gets patina reacting over time, use and treatments (Saphire Creme surfine for instance ;) Sometimes leather patina is in fact only dirt.
@iwasglad1222 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video! I have a variety of Gladstone (Dr) bags, and I use them regularly in my work and also any social activities that require bags. I'm constantly keeping them all in excellent, usable condition. My preference, despite their great age, is to have any brass parts shining brightly. I'm not a fan of the patina, dull brass look! One of my favourite moments was using one of my Gladstones on a work trip. I got to the airport check-in and the lady checking my details said, for the entire queue to hear, "Wow! What an AMAZING bag!" My 15 minutes of fame!!!
@JamesBerry2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing David, it's wonderful to hear stories like this and a great example of how people will always love good quality leather products :D Glad you liked the video!
@richardichard42374 жыл бұрын
Is the inside base of this bag stitched in or just glued...? Thanks. A very nicely made bag. The quality of the leather is obvious. Looks like oak bark tanned leather. Do you know where it was made...?
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, it looks like a hard composite board that is glued onto the bottom of the bag. Completely agree with you, you can really tell it's great quality leather at how well it's survived all those years! All I know about it is that is was a French leatherworker who made it... Sadly the old owner did not have more information for me.
@lindamellingen597710 ай бұрын
Love the video. I have found Gladstone bag hardware online, but they are not of this quality. Do you know if there are makers of them yet?
@JamesBerry9 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoyed the video! Unfortunately I've not seen any new versions of this hardware and don't have any suggestions for you on where to find them :/ Hopefully Google can help you more than me.
@lorenwoodson91643 жыл бұрын
Thanks much! I agree with your restoration esthetics and related choices. Bag looks great!
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your message Loren, so pleased you like it :)
@Grant24064 жыл бұрын
Patina usually just looks like grime and dirt. I generally give it a polish and a coat of oil or wax.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the message Grant, I think I'll stick to that same rule for future projects :)
@edwinhardman1509 Жыл бұрын
Great looking bag, but does not neatsfoot oil gradually oxidise and, long term, actually lead to cracking?
@JamesBerry Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this from any experienced saddler. Possibly the one thing to avoid is oversaturating the leather in oil as that will cause issues long-term - though this would be true for any oil you may use, not just neatsfoot oil.
@robynsalaver40693 жыл бұрын
I preferred the bag after you polished it the brass. The shine contrasted beautifully with the leather.
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
Hahah thanks Robyn, I think I agree with you there ;)
@EduardoBach014 жыл бұрын
Great job! I would have used a minuscule amount of polish on the brass just to take a rather superficial layer of that patina, that would give a darker look, which I think looks more natural--something resembling a clean but used brass.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the message Eduardo, Indeed this would also have worked well to keep a lot of that patina :)
@Anteroization4 жыл бұрын
yes, the metal was a little dead not to say dirty and did benefit the overall look results.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) Glad I polished it in the end.
@ex0gen3 жыл бұрын
In regards to the patina of the brass, I think its a matter of preference. Some might prefer the "new" look, whereas, others prefer the vintage-aged patina that develops character. Me, I prefer the vintage look, but if the bad originally was shinny, restoring it isn't necessarily bad.
@colorguardrifleman2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous bag I would love to own a bag like this. I wonder if I could find one made like it.
@JamesBerry2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rafael! I see quite a few of these on second hand sites that often go for quite cheap.
@MissSunshineHS Жыл бұрын
What type of oil did he say?
@weishanzhang23434 жыл бұрын
I think you make the patina come out and perform better.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Weishan, I think I agree with you even if I was hesitant at first to touch it :) Glad you like it!
@weishanzhang23434 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBerry Thanks for your reply. In the beginning, the bag looks quite "yellow" and dry. I even think that patina was too light for such an old bag. Then you brought it out through cleaning and maintenance.
@barbaraburgdorff70252 жыл бұрын
What do I do with a handbag, olive in color, that has lost its color in the very middle of the bag? Do I try to match the olive color or will the restoration you just showed us help a lot? Thanks for your kind response.
@JamesBerry2 жыл бұрын
Hi Barbara, without seeing the bag and knowing more about the leather I really can't say. I recommend you bring it to a local cobbler and ask for their opinion as the method to fix it will depend on quite a few things and I don't know I've got the knowledge to properly help in this.
@erikzorger33113 жыл бұрын
oddly enough I found neetsfoot oil in Walmart in the shoe polish section.
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
Oh cool, good to know they have it :)
@MazzaCheewanich3 жыл бұрын
Love the final look, for me, if I started to clean it, go all the way!
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you like it :)
@chaccaron43214 жыл бұрын
At first I thought you were saying the bag belonged to a Dr who is 25 years old lol. Anyways nice work on this!
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Hahah :) Thanks for your message, glad you liked it!
@svenbuijks65253 жыл бұрын
very nice video !
@lauraanderson3056 Жыл бұрын
I like the brass cleaned up and shiny❤
@normazarpak67742 жыл бұрын
I don't think of it as removing the patina, but more cleaning off the grime and oils from the hands that have touched and loved it. You can still see the age and wear even after cleaning it.
@JamesBerry2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it looked so much better in the end... and as you say it's definitely still got loads of character from years of use :)
@brendadavis87583 жыл бұрын
Hello, what was the name of the oil you used in the second step I have several vintage Coach bags that I would like to restore.
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
Hello Brenda, it's neatsfoot oil. You can find at at any leather store or horse-riding equipment store.
@W.CambridgeLeatherCraft4 жыл бұрын
Great video James.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@hopeindirect41654 жыл бұрын
In my workshop, when I put on ma leather, and rock to sum Metallica, Delta Parole, Foo Fighters or the Smashing Pumpkins I feel like I can do anything in the whole wide world.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that's a wonderful feeling :)
@chergagne74304 жыл бұрын
Like your edit.
@danielirvine74684 жыл бұрын
Nice work James
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel!
@etm56718 күн бұрын
I have my father's doctor's bag, and it must be 70+ years old. I'm pretty sure he never used it, as he went to work for the VA out of medical school, and worked there for many years. He went to medical school after WW II, and I don't know exactly when that was for him. He had his MD by 1950, so this bag must be nearly 80 years old.
@russellchevalier3606 Жыл бұрын
Glad you cleaned the brass. Patina it was not… filth and corrosion due to filth has no character, and that’s what you wiped off.
@Andy-pu2iv4 жыл бұрын
I've just found your channel, having very recently discovered an interest in leather-work. I love what you did to this bag, but what really stuck out at me were the rivets along the length of the brass top closures. They look like cheap pop-rivets (they probably aren't) but maybe replacing them would have added that little bit extra.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton Andy for your message! I'm really glad to hear you like the result :) At the time of filming I didn't have much experience with rivets and didn't have what I needed to replace them... I'm glad to say I know a bit more now than I did then and would definitely follow your advice next time!
@matt34084 жыл бұрын
did u documenting this on paper work?
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, if you mean did I make a template then unfortunately no, I did not.
@Rikyloebis2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, greeting from leather artisan in Indonesia
@fortysomethingbadgirls21733 жыл бұрын
I would polish patina if it looked like something was growing.....mold, otherwise I would keep it to show it is used and reused!
@MariaAbada3 жыл бұрын
great job!
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Maria!
@robertmanson59223 жыл бұрын
If the metal is brass plated or brushed you should probably avoid polishing cause you might end up polishing the brass topcoat off completely, though saying that i personally prefer the nice "shiney" brass with leather
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what it was Robert, in some areas I was polishing a bit too far and I was showing the steel beneath ever so slightly. I think the polished look makes it look like a much more cherished item. Pleased you like it :)
@frankcicero44444 жыл бұрын
Well done
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Frank :)
@Agate873 жыл бұрын
That patina is gorgeous. Why don't you ask the owner if she wants to keep the vintage look or she wants the brand new look?
@JamesBerry3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your message :) I didn't have a customer at the time of making the video - the bag was actually sold shortly after the video was posted.
@johannvanaardt72214 жыл бұрын
Personally I would have left the patina, it looks overcleaned now and brass tarnishes really quickly so it wont stay shiny for very long. If someone want's something old that looks new, just go out and buy a new bag.
@threethrushes Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a former soldier, brass cannot be shiny enough.
@JamesBerry Жыл бұрын
Hahahah well said :D That and polished shoes.
@boyrandall4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought, leaving a “petina” it’s an excuse curators give for sloppy end results.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Hahahah I do get this feeling sometimes also, but othertimes I find patina adds a lot to a piece and can be very nice.
@latetotheparty47854 жыл бұрын
A layer of grime is not patina.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
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@CourtneysAuntSara2 жыл бұрын
It isn’t patina. It’s grime. I prefer the cleaner look.
@JamesBerry2 жыл бұрын
Heheh, glad you like it :)
@ShweMyaukMyauk4 жыл бұрын
Patina is one thing, dirt is another lol
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Hahah well said x)
@alista29264 жыл бұрын
was not restoration was cleaning
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
If simply cleaning it brings it back to its' original shape then I call it a restoration (i.e. restored to original state).
@369930204 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the "before" only because I like the tan colour and the non shiny texture on leather...
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
I get that. Sometimes I like to make things using non dyed vegtan leather so as to enjoy the raw feel and the plain elegant look.
@CharlesM23 жыл бұрын
I feel that restoration means bringing the bag both into a form of usability, and to a brand new looking state. I’ve watched a lot of videos of restoring bags and such, specifically from insider and their “high end” bag restorations (luis vuitton, mulberry), and I find keeping specific original parts that seem to need cleaning/fixing to lessen the look of the bag. I just don’t see how 1. it could lower the overall price considering you can clean it or replace the part with a more expensive version 2. be worth buying at a dramatic cost of over $3,000 dollars when it’s not even in exact tip top shape Maybe it’s just my opinion, but as someone who’s never been able to afford an expensive bag I see it as pointless to refurbish and sell away in an “unfixed” state if I have the cash to buy a brand new version of at least a similar bag. Just my 2 cents though.
@miriamhavard76213 жыл бұрын
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@TheLexiconDevils4 жыл бұрын
Those cheap rivets are disgusting
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you! Had I had better rivets with which to change them I would have ... At the time of filming I didn't have much experience with rivets.
@alx2524 жыл бұрын
Why do you overemphasize so much. It wasn't in that bad bad bad condition with that much much much dirty dirty dirty and grime grime... It was in good but used condition.
@JamesBerry4 жыл бұрын
I guess I wasn't able to showcase well enough on camera how dry and dirty it felt to me when I got it. Also, I'm a very emphatic person :D