Restoring a 1956 Friden STW 10 Mechanical Calculator

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CuriousMarc

CuriousMarc

9 жыл бұрын

The Friden STW 10 is a wonderful, fully automatic, mechanical calculator, that can add, subtract, multiply and divide very large numbers. It is large, very fast and noisy, quite impressive when it gets going. This is one of the most difficult mechanical restoration I have gone through to date. This machine is complex and not modular at all. Everything is connected and interlocked to everything else. It is very difficult to take apart, and even more difficult to put back together. This particular 1950's machine, although in great cosmetic condition, was in terrible mechanical shape. It had several dozen hard stuck parts, a similar number of sluggish ones, and a few critical mis-adjustments. I cut out many of the restoration details, but this is still a 27 minute video that chronicles several weeks of work! But in the end I got everything to work again...
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@IncavInc
@IncavInc 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc, I'm restoring my FRIDEN STW-10 like yours; your video has been so useful, thanks. Do you have any kind o documentation, manual, etc that I can use?
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 6 жыл бұрын
[Update] The service manuals have been scanned and are now available on my website! www.curiousmarc.com/mechanical/friden-stw-10-mechnical-calculator
@bzuidgeest
@bzuidgeest 4 жыл бұрын
@@CuriousMarc Unfortunately www.officemachinemanuals.com seems to be offline. Do you know where it went? different url?
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 4 жыл бұрын
I was told the guy died, and with him went his manuals. I am going have to scan the copy I have and put it online, when I get the courage (it’s a lot of pages)
@mightyorb8637
@mightyorb8637 4 жыл бұрын
@@CuriousMarc I would love to get a copy once you scan it. I have the same model and it would get stuck while dividing, but eventually work loose. It finally got stuck semi-permanently. I have been afraid to attack it, but your video gives me hope!
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 4 жыл бұрын
@@mightyorb8637 I scanned the manuals and made them available here: www.curiousmarc.com/mechanical/friden-stw-10-mechnical-calculator . Good luck!
@denniswilliams8747
@denniswilliams8747 7 жыл бұрын
I used to work on those. I had 10 or 11 months factory training on them in Rochester NY in 1967 They gave us a hand crank so I could un jam them. The hand crank was the first option. Many times the motor was slowed down a bit to help the old machines run better. Taking the machine as far apart was much later in the trouble shooting procedure. They were a lot of fun to work on. Meeting the people who used them was nice too. In 1974 I made $5 per hour with a company car. Thanks
@SuperGoProVideos
@SuperGoProVideos 6 жыл бұрын
Wow you must be incredibly skilled and intelligent to work on these complex machines. That must have been pretty good pay back then. According to inflation thats nearly 80k per year today!
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 6 жыл бұрын
+Dennis WIlliam: I recently got a replica of the hand crank you describe. Very handy tool indeed!
@dusterdude238
@dusterdude238 7 жыл бұрын
I am sitting here in Awe just thinking about how many hours the person(s) spent at a drafting board designing this thing. and then the many hours of machining all those cams,gears and levers. WOW! this was ingenious for back in the day.
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 6 жыл бұрын
Seconded! Where would you even start when designing one of these machines. They must've had brilliant minds. An explanation of the theory of operation would be very interesting indeed!
@brianjoelbasualdo7436
@brianjoelbasualdo7436 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Tay that's true
@Texaca
@Texaca 4 жыл бұрын
looks like an updated version of an Enigma machine, a famous encryption machine used by the Germans during WWII to transmit coded messages. 👌
@nux3960
@nux3960 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, makes me feel incredibly stupid lol
@chfr927
@chfr927 5 жыл бұрын
My grandfather (Carl Friden) invented this machine and it is fascinating to see the guts working, and heart-warming to see a Friden treated with so much TLC. Thank you for sharing!
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 5 жыл бұрын
Your grandfather was a mechanical genious!
@BCSJRR
@BCSJRR Жыл бұрын
My dad was a VP of engineering at Friden when they were starting to transition into electronic calculators. According to him one of the prestige positions in the factory was "parts bender". Very seldom did one of these machines work right off the assembly line. The parts bender would go in a tweak the pieces to make them work.
@chfr927
@chfr927 Жыл бұрын
@@BCSJRR Interesting. Your dad sounds like an impressive man!
@chfr927
@chfr927 Жыл бұрын
@@BCSJRR Wow. Carl Friden too was a refugee of sorts who took a ship to the US with almost nothing in his pockets and pitched his calculator idea on the trip and was hired as an engineer. His story is amazing...like your father's (who sounds like Friden/singer should have funded but Carl was gone by then).
@BCSJRR
@BCSJRR Жыл бұрын
@@chfr927 Carl Friden was obviously a genius at mechanical design. I made my living as a sw engineer for 30 years and made some big complicated programs, but never in a 1000 years do I think I could have designed, built, and got these mechanical wonders to work!
@jharris947
@jharris947 2 жыл бұрын
A mechanical masterpiece that does look better without any covers.👍😎
@deltic5514
@deltic5514 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating machine hats off to whoever even thought of it let alone designed it and built it
@gakebagiannama4401
@gakebagiannama4401 2 жыл бұрын
I just amazed by how geniuses the inventor is
@WaskiSquirrel
@WaskiSquirrel 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I found one of these at a good price. It is sitting in my basement waiting for a vacation so I can work on it. your video will help me a lot in repairing it.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck! Hope yours is not nearly as bad as mine. The service manuals that I have acquired since then are now available on my web site: www.curiousmarc.com/mechanical/friden-stw-10-mechnical-calculator
@kirbyyasha
@kirbyyasha 7 жыл бұрын
That is by far the most complicated looking machine I have ever seen. Great job fixing that up! I admire your level of repair skill!
@evergriven7402
@evergriven7402 6 жыл бұрын
I would have to add level of Patience and tenacity
@yojimblab
@yojimblab 6 жыл бұрын
just commenting because of your profile pic
@isabellabukantis4906
@isabellabukantis4906 4 жыл бұрын
My grandpa worked for Friden, there was also a version that extracted square root. He may have some documentation. I know he sold his RSR and Ec-132 Fridens
@DoRC
@DoRC 8 жыл бұрын
I'd be terrified to take this apart. bravo
@mitchm5049
@mitchm5049 5 жыл бұрын
Do R/C! i mean it was already broken nothing to lose 😂 hahaha
@alanfreeman1838
@alanfreeman1838 4 жыл бұрын
I used to teach techs at rochester n.y. and at san leadro cal, and was the product specialist on the 1217,I ,am currently restoring a stw 8, I curretly have a service manual to use, I am 88 years of age so my memory is still fuzzy in all the mechanics, I am impressed with your skills Marc.
@GlenMcGlone
@GlenMcGlone 6 жыл бұрын
Your patience is astonishing.
@InvalidUser18
@InvalidUser18 9 ай бұрын
Im tempted to buy one of these and 3d scan EVERYTHING, put it in CAD, and see if I can get a metal 3d printer and make a brand new one. Idk, its a random idea but this thing is SICK and I'd love to keep them alive. They get rarer by the year and in worse condition so I think it'd be cool to make one that'll also last for years and is easily repairable. I'm fairly young, like, 17 (I was 9 when this video came out) and I'd LOVE to apply nowadays tech to keep this alive. Idk, random idea that I think would be cool and I guess it could be a cool project for those who want to build one and learn how complex something was that we take for granted in this day and age. We have the simplicity of just opening an app that's almost always pre-installed on our devices that only take a couple hundred words to write. Tbf our phones are ridiculously complex but we also take that for granted but so long as the tech companies do that all we do is type words on an electrically controlled typewriter lmao. If you see this I'd love feedback on this idea. Maybe if you figured anything else new about it or find a listing for the ones that have the square root function I'd love to invest and learn! (Sorry for the essay lol these things just interest me.)
@Zerbey
@Zerbey 6 жыл бұрын
I'm awestruck that you were able to reverse engineer and fix this machine, very impressive work.
@thatpersonwithamlpiconwhos2861
@thatpersonwithamlpiconwhos2861 7 жыл бұрын
It's dizzying to think that this was designed not with cad but by hand. And manufactured by hand.
@csean97
@csean97 9 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Friden STW 10 (1951 vintage) and have been trying to get it running. Unfortunately, I've found that there isn't much on the net that deals with solving specific problems with these machines. Your video is a very important resource. Thank you for making it. BTW, the "root by fives" method, which you demonstrate, works because N 5N² = Σ (10j - 5) for j=1, 2, 3, ... N j=1 Which is a re-statement of "the sum of the first N odd integers is N squared."
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 9 жыл бұрын
That is so true, almost nothing out there. I had to go on fumes. I found a terse disassembly manual on the Fridenites Yahoo Group (too late to help anyhow), and a bad scan of the nearly incomprehensible STW Service Manual which I had to buy on scribd.com. Thanks for the formula, makes perfect sense.
@turbojoe2
@turbojoe2 6 жыл бұрын
I though old VCR's were complex, this is a whole new level for me! Amazing that men could create something like this without computers. Just mind blowing.
@jovetj
@jovetj 6 жыл бұрын
You're a hero. This is is a fabulous and mesmerizing machine. A true testament to a time before semi-conductor computers!
@TheSonicfrog
@TheSonicfrog 5 жыл бұрын
You have a marvelous touch and intuition! Great work restoring a machine that built in the long-lost days when things were made repairable and could last practically forever.
@denniswilliams8747
@denniswilliams8747 7 жыл бұрын
In the shop we had a tank of Tri Chlor with some light oil added. We would dip the machines to wash out dirt and old oil. Some machine really needed that. Machines in dusty abrasive enviroments would wear out fast. Acid fumes also did the springs in too.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 7 жыл бұрын
+Dennis William: You must mean Trichlorethylene as the solvent, not Tri Chlor as the pool chlorinating chemical. Thanks for the tip. I used alcohol to dissolve the old oil, but this might be better.
@denniswilliams8747
@denniswilliams8747 7 жыл бұрын
Trichlorethylene, Trichlorethane Is what I meant and is no longer sold. Cancer causing I think. Or maybe the Ozone layer? I don't remember. Alcohol is safer for sure. Thanks The vid sure brought back memories.
@allanredford6070
@allanredford6070 4 жыл бұрын
1966.68 I used one - in my first job as a trainee in a factory office in England. I remember they were generally reliable, but as co. wasSwiss, it was properly serviced. occasionally the carriage would jam. we users removed it, to reset cogs affected. if you like these type of mechs, recommend you search 'techmoan 'akai invertomatic cassette'. like steam trains(I rode on a few of those too!). things wren's necessarily simpler back then. but things worked, and you could see how they worked, not invisible digits :) well done
@davida1hiwaaynet
@davida1hiwaaynet 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this machine to us. I am truly, honestly, amazed by the intricate mechanisms in it. You're quite a skilled technician and have amazing patience to restore it. Mad respect!
@jumpkeys
@jumpkeys 3 жыл бұрын
Love this stuff! Thank you for taking the time to take us on this journey with you.
@richfiles
@richfiles 7 жыл бұрын
I have two of these machines. One has a jam and increments endlessly. The other I just got, but I have not examined it or attempted to operate it or power it on yet. Absolute marvels of engineering, and a vast mountain of a task to take on... I commend your troubleshooting and repair skills!
@indylmc
@indylmc 7 жыл бұрын
This video made me time warp back to the 80's when I had a short stint working for Burrough's Corp. They wanted me to learn how to fix their mechanical banking machines (wish I could remember the name of them) Instead I worked on the electro-mechcanical TR-??? banking teller terminals. What a pain. The days of RS-232. I have to give you credit, dealing with all of the screws, springs, actuators UGH. I wish you well, keep tinkering.
@TheducksOrg
@TheducksOrg 6 жыл бұрын
I used RS-232 on a daily basis until 2016, for configuring and servicing SAN/NAS units. It's still popular :)
@josephplumbmartin1
@josephplumbmartin1 5 жыл бұрын
i went to school in san leandro at the friden factory.. when we graduated they gave us a gold plated crank so as to cycle the machine slowly and repair it.. the first thing we did, when in the field, was to send it into the shop to be washed.. in a diswasher type of machine which would rinse it with solvent and a small amount of oil.. we had specialized tools for forming (bending) those levers and such to get it to operate correctly.. the entire machine depends on cams and levers being cammed up at just the correct speed so another loever could catch it and finish a particular operation.. i serviced the calculators at all the big insurance companies downtown san francisco.. liberty mutual on pine street and the zellerbach building on market acrossfrom the shell building if memory is correct.. the first thing the guy in the video should do is wash that machine then oil and grease the cams.. it also depends on spring tension being correct.. gosh, all this was in the late '50's like 1959 or 1960.. just before friden developed their first electronic calculator.. if he getrs it running, dividing and not jamming he will deserve a medal.. :-)
@christiaandockers3755
@christiaandockers3755 2 жыл бұрын
Insane!!! I bought one . Its on the way from France. I'll restore it. It's the most lovely, lovely machine ever made. It makes me cry and laugh at the same time.
@ulrichmors574
@ulrichmors574 Жыл бұрын
how did you proceed? success?
@kennethjanczak4900
@kennethjanczak4900 6 жыл бұрын
What an amasing piece of mechanic.... U did a good job fixing it, thanks for taking the time to make the video and upload it
@Fly0High
@Fly0High 8 жыл бұрын
What an amazing piece of engineering! Brilliant! And I really like how you went in and, lever by lever, figured out how it all works.
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan 6 жыл бұрын
Wooowww... your dedication on restoring this machine was amazing! And also amazing was that this machine actually worked after wiggling and bending the parts... talk about survivability! :D
@youtoobe169
@youtoobe169 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic videos about this very interesting mechanical marvel. And it's awesome that you posted all those PDFs. A job like this is way above my pay grade, but it's so cool that it's out there for those who are inclined to be able to save more of these.
@BM-jy6cb
@BM-jy6cb 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. You are a very brave man taking that apart!
@Snowchris1
@Snowchris1 5 жыл бұрын
The people who designed this equipment are amazing
@ashkandi1337
@ashkandi1337 5 жыл бұрын
What an amazing piece of machinery
@peterbustin8604
@peterbustin8604 6 жыл бұрын
That is so complicated, well done!
@nickolaswilcox425
@nickolaswilcox425 4 жыл бұрын
antique lubrication, one hell of a double edged sword, its one of the best preservatives ever made, but its absolute hell to get it unstuck and moving again later on
@richardrap2824
@richardrap2824 7 жыл бұрын
I went to school for this calculator in 1964 in San Leandro CA. at the factory where they were made and repaired them for several years.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! If you are still local and have any documentation (or recollections about the machine), I'd love to meet you. Send me a private message.
@kirknelson156
@kirknelson156 7 жыл бұрын
great work, you're like me, good ability to take complicated things apart and figure them out, and put them back together working. many can take something apart, fewer can put it back together. :)
@RobinCawthorne
@RobinCawthorne 6 жыл бұрын
I know why you made this into vlog. because how else is a person to remember where what goes!
@evergriven7402
@evergriven7402 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this GREAT video ..
@MrAtlantis95
@MrAtlantis95 4 жыл бұрын
I bought yesterday a FRIDEN STW-8. I will first clean it completely!
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck! I uploaded the documentation I recovered on my website here: www.curiousmarc.com/mechanical/friden-stw-10-mechnical-calculator
@oritsegevie5496
@oritsegevie5496 6 жыл бұрын
What an amazing video. Considering there's no owners manual so everything had to be taken apart & by process of elimination, it was fixed! When I was 10 years old I took apart an old mechanical clock and put it back together successfully. But this puts shame to that achievement, lol. Thumbs up CuriousMarc! :)
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 5 жыл бұрын
My dad had some Fridens. He also worked on Teletypes. For the latter, every few years he'd completely spray down the insides and then carefully re-oil it. Watching you trying to find individual stuck levers made me think that might have been a good plan for fixing this one.
@blakeashley1957
@blakeashley1957 8 жыл бұрын
You are my new hero!
@quackman
@quackman 4 жыл бұрын
4:24 that looks like an awesome shirt!
@gummel82
@gummel82 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, i'm a mechanic myself, but you sir.. you're a fucking genius
@JGunlimited
@JGunlimited 6 жыл бұрын
Would you be inclined to design a clear acrylic case for it... so that it protects it from dust etc but still shows off the lovely mechanics?
@alicebate6384
@alicebate6384 6 жыл бұрын
I like this idea!
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 6 жыл бұрын
+JG: I agree! Looks more amazing without the covers! Some early mechanical calculators had glass panels so you could see the inside mechanism, too bad that was later mostly abandoned.
@garydunken7934
@garydunken7934 6 жыл бұрын
And then came the transistor that put an end to mechanical computers. Computers have come a long way in less than 100 years. What could these humans do in the next 100?
@ConnorNolan
@ConnorNolan 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine what the world would be like without the transistor. We would have some very interesting analog modern steampunk machienes.
@nux3960
@nux3960 4 жыл бұрын
Mind-blowing 💥
@cheapasstech
@cheapasstech 4 жыл бұрын
Once the space race ended, nothing extraordinary or shocking has happened so far...
@denniswilliams8747
@denniswilliams8747 7 жыл бұрын
The main shaft has a threaded hole on the right side. Find a bolt that fits and make a hand crank. This will be a big help. You might find a factory service manual on the STW 10.
@AD-mw5mv
@AD-mw5mv 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome..
@abcd-jl2tl
@abcd-jl2tl 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... This is intelligence
@MicrobyteAlan
@MicrobyteAlan 6 жыл бұрын
Good trouble shooting. Most excellent.
@kokooo00
@kokooo00 4 жыл бұрын
今天我也修复了一台同样的机器,花了4个月的时间修复,好辛苦
@jakebob3777
@jakebob3777 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a really great video. It is helping me to get my STW 10 working. Not having a lot of progress thus far, the main shaft is immovable and the motor just buzzes like yours initially did. So far I've completely restored 4 Monroe calculators to working order. Two LA5-160's, a LA5-200, and a CSAE 10 Monroe matic. Is there a reason why you didn't use WD40 to help free up stuck mechanisms that took you days or weeks to find and then use oil and other strong lubricants to the entire mechanicsm.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 7 жыл бұрын
In this case I /did/ have to use WD-40. And some amount of force. I recently did another one and I had to hammer parts out of their shafts! So it seems to be a consistent Friden problem. Happens on black anodized shafts apparently. The problem with WD-40 is long term: if you don't or can't remove it, it tends to turn oil into a sticky substance. But I would not have been able to take things apart or loosened up safely without it.
@gnautist
@gnautist 6 жыл бұрын
Might I ask how you managed to remove the multiplication keybord? I found the two hex screws on top in and to the right of the keyboard and the four big circular head screws on the bottom of it but I was unable to get at the final screw as it was blocked by some unknown control bar. I also accidentally popped some springs off getting at the first 5 screws so now I really need to get in there lol.
@wuloki
@wuloki 4 жыл бұрын
I saw this weird plug it uses a few times here in Europe. In Germany, older people just call it the "flatiron plug". That's where you typically find it... old flatirons, sewing machines, etc.
@JGunlimited
@JGunlimited 6 жыл бұрын
9:35 is very neat!
@staplejats
@staplejats 5 жыл бұрын
Worked in a typewriter repair shop in the late eighties doing board level repairs. The old school techs (didn't like electronics, or me) doing the real work around a common bench used a submersible parts washer. Something you might consider?
@th3narrat0r5
@th3narrat0r5 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering how you removed what looks like rivets without damaging the machine. I have found a machine on eBay that is absolutely wrecked (looks like it took a long fall and landed dead center on the bottom on a table corner or something so the case is bent inwards along with some of the bottom parts and transformer assembly) so I’m working on rebuilding it in CAD to allow for new spare parts to be manufactured based off of it. Also I was thinking of making a second one with modern considerations like piling pads, aluminum parts with steel rims, lightening of pieces, etc. unfortunately I don’t think the original machine will survive the process
@houvt230
@houvt230 9 жыл бұрын
Congrats and thanks for posting, these are beautiful old machines. This makes me want to try again on a much less clean one that I got several years ago. Could you recommend any sources for that power cord? Also what type of oil/lubricant did you use? Also I have heard there is a fiber gear that’s important not to put power on with the machine frozen, lest it get stripped. Any guidance on that? Can you point out where it is in your video?
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 9 жыл бұрын
This guy has the cords - I need to buy one too. Look for the oval cords: www.apexjr.com/ I used lots of WD-40 to get things unstuck - which did its job but is a terrible substance long term. It is the very opposite of a lubricant, it's an aggressive solvent. You want to try to remove it all and re-lubricate later with light sewing machine oil. The plastic/fiber gear is the orange looking power transmitting gear(s) on the right side of the machine. My machine was frozen and it didn't get stripped...
@houvt230
@houvt230 9 жыл бұрын
CuriousMarc Many thanks for the info! I hear you re: the WD-40 - I used that several years back and later put the STW aside without cleaning it off, and that was a bad move!... Some things I unstuck then are stuck again now - it definitely leaves a sticky residue. Thanks again for the video and inspiration on this.
@miladirani4313
@miladirani4313 5 жыл бұрын
this is complicated and interesing machine
@mickdowney4913
@mickdowney4913 6 жыл бұрын
I'm in Aw....well done
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 7 жыл бұрын
The real calculation for pi would be: 4atan(1) Which gives 3.1415926535... Or the approximation of it to the highest precision of the device used to calculate it.
@richfiles5056
@richfiles5056 9 жыл бұрын
I have one of these, and it seems like it's stuck in a calculation... it just keep incrementing by one... forever... I'd love to fix it, but I'm so afraid I'd never get it back together again if I mess with it! O_o They are BEAUTIFUL machines though!
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXzHZIWVh9GLncU
@bradleymorgan8223
@bradleymorgan8223 6 жыл бұрын
Just bought one of these on ebay, and it seems to have a very similar problem, with the two left-most actuators under the keyboard being stuck. The work continues.
@bradleymorgan8223
@bradleymorgan8223 6 жыл бұрын
For posterity, the carrieage is much easier to remove by removing the travel stop on the left side, leaving the guide rails in place. you can then slide the whole carriage off to the right.
@jijzer4581
@jijzer4581 8 жыл бұрын
you know there are 1 euro calculators in the shop :P its a beauty
@vierspartan117
@vierspartan117 3 жыл бұрын
dude you have balls
@jakebob3777
@jakebob3777 7 жыл бұрын
I still cannot depress the ADD or Subtract keys. The Keyboard Lock lever does not move. Could it be this lever that is causing my problems?
@chunkyjoe8673
@chunkyjoe8673 Жыл бұрын
Were should I look for these if I want to restore one?
@mitchcampen1375
@mitchcampen1375 2 ай бұрын
I have two of these machines and both have the dog clutch stuck . I have no idea how to access it . I have never seen anything like this before. How did they design this in 1950 ?
@DoRC
@DoRC 8 жыл бұрын
With the entire thing basically being moving parts I think I would have sprayed the whole thing down with a light oil and let it sit for a week.
@jose20008
@jose20008 6 жыл бұрын
Minions tshirt rocks!
@arcanenature
@arcanenature 9 жыл бұрын
would sticking it in a tub of oil/diesel work? or too many parts that wont like an oil bath? tho not much help if parts are mis aligned.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 9 жыл бұрын
Maybe, if you removed the motor and electrical parts. I think that's what they used to do for regular maintenance on some machines. Using detergent spray had also been suggested. But I doubt it would have worked in this case. This was stuck way to hard. I had to use enormous amount of force to barely move some parts, infiltrate with WD40 at targeted points, and really remove and clean the parts where you could. What might have worked is a warm ultrasonic solvent bath, but an ultrasonic bath this large would be a very expensive machine.
@leinadsee
@leinadsee 5 жыл бұрын
What type of lubricant and cleaner do you use?
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 5 жыл бұрын
For cleaner I recommend Simple Green, and for oil Nye 140B
@GB-lo6qg
@GB-lo6qg 4 жыл бұрын
One thing is not totally clear to me, was anything stuck in the machine?
@jq747
@jq747 6 жыл бұрын
It was a great video, but please invest in a camera tripod
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 6 жыл бұрын
I know, I know, I get dizzy just looking at this :-)
@jasonstahl1327
@jasonstahl1327 6 жыл бұрын
Ernie Jorgenson passed away a few months ago and officemachinemanuals.com is now a chinese placeholder. Do you know where an FR22 manual you mentioned in comments could be found now? I just obtained an STW that is not fully locked up, but stuck in subtraction and carriage not moving. I found the first service manual on scribd. Thanks for this video, huge help.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, no! The manual he sent me recently even had a little note from him. His was the only place I knew of. Might be high time to scan these manuals and put them on bitsavers.
@linuxlvr
@linuxlvr 5 жыл бұрын
@@CuriousMarc Please do! That manual is impossible to find. The only part of it available online is a poor quality scan of the "disassembly" section on the old Friden Yahoo Group.
@ShinySpinarak
@ShinySpinarak 6 ай бұрын
Hi Marc, I just recently purchased this from a seller on E-Bay, but it didn't come with a plug, I was wondering if you could tell me if it's a standard 110? I know this video is nine years old, but looking it up on-line doesn't seem to produce many results so far. Thank you in advance
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 6 ай бұрын
That’s an oval 110V cord, a standard from the 1050s. They are getting hard to find, but they are on eBay, often for ludicrous prices. Many people replace the old oval plug with the modern squarish one.
@ShinySpinarak
@ShinySpinarak 3 ай бұрын
@@CuriousMarc thanks for your response!
@oritsegevie5496
@oritsegevie5496 6 жыл бұрын
Also does this computer have an FPU (antecedant to CPU)? Sorry - I asked about 'differences' - meant differential equations. lol
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 6 жыл бұрын
I don't quite understand the question. An FPU is a much later specialized term referring to electronic circuitry for accelerating floating points calculations in an electronic computer. A floating point number being a number described by two numbers, a mantissa and an exponent. I do not know of any mechanical calculator that represents numbers natively that way. But you are probably asking instead if one can do floating point calculations on a machine like this. And the answer is yes, you sure can do such calculations, just like a CPU with no FPU does floating point calculations using integer arithmetic, just a bit cumbersome. However in practice, and with so many digits available (that's why they are there!), you'd simply perform fixed point calculations. The Friden has many manually operated markers to keep track of the decimal point on all registers and on the main keyboard just for that purpose. I think I show this in my Friden demo video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3zQapiDZ6eog5I .
@hexagonist23
@hexagonist23 5 жыл бұрын
This was the iPhone X of the 1950's
@Trev0r98
@Trev0r98 2 жыл бұрын
Just stick the entire calculator into a gigantic ultrasonic cleaner and run it for an hour.
@oritsegevie5496
@oritsegevie5496 6 жыл бұрын
My other question is; can this machine be used for polynomial calculations / finite differences? I only ask since the British Science museum have reconstructed Babbage's difference engine from the 1830's. If so can you pls upload a video - that would be amazing! btw - here's the link on YT to prove it; kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ3FgqaBpdZmd80 (skip to about 18mins into it)
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 6 жыл бұрын
The Babbage Finite Difference machine (of which I have a video of the one that was at the CHM here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXOUqYShnM5mfqc) is the only specialized finite difference mechanical calculator I know of. It would be possible but impractical to use this method using a mechanical calculator like this - you'd have to use lots of machines and operators and coordinate a calculation. To compute mathematical tables with this, you'd simply use polynomial approximations instead, since it can multiply and divide.
@alexhayden2303
@alexhayden2303 6 жыл бұрын
I'd have given it a good squirt of WD40! I would not keep unplugging it but put a switch in the line! What would Babage say?
@ChakatStormCloud
@ChakatStormCloud 7 жыл бұрын
How much WD40 did you use?
@josecitowhisky
@josecitowhisky 7 жыл бұрын
I think he probably used some lube or oil mostly. WD40 cleans rust, lube (acts like a solvent) and frees stuck mechanical parts, you can't use it as a lubricant
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 7 жыл бұрын
Jose is correct on all points. Stay away from WD40 if you can, and remove it and replace by oil if you have to use it.
@josecitowhisky
@josecitowhisky 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, you should use WD40 ONLY to clean. After you put some of the cleaner, it will evaporate (That's why you shouldn't use it as a lubricant) and then you should use some oil to lubricate the moving parts. Also, NEVER use WD40 to "lubricate" motors of any kind (A very common mistake by a lot of people)
@Snowchris1
@Snowchris1 5 жыл бұрын
anyone know of a more complicated machine than this?
@alessandrobarbieri2098
@alessandrobarbieri2098 6 жыл бұрын
Stuck
@glmx778
@glmx778 10 ай бұрын
You seem to be a genius, and I feel awkward giving you advice but the constant camera movement is making this somewhat difficult to watch. I'm fascinated but am also getting dizzy.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I know it’s pretty bad, I’m getting sick myself watching the wobbly video. I have gotten a little bit better since. But then, no always…
@nyhammer1
@nyhammer1 Жыл бұрын
Please make your videos in higher resolution !
@Jeffrey314159
@Jeffrey314159 9 жыл бұрын
The magnificence and durability of German Engineering.
@CuriousMarc
@CuriousMarc 9 жыл бұрын
No German engineering here... Made in San Leandro, California, by a Carl Friden, a Swedish immigrant. That said, it is built like a tank!
@blasebermea3493
@blasebermea3493 8 жыл бұрын
Don't you just miss that 1950s quality.
@Jeffrey314159
@Jeffrey314159 8 жыл бұрын
Yes I do!
@thatpersonwithamlpiconwhos2861
@thatpersonwithamlpiconwhos2861 7 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey314159 Old Gemma engineer seems like they were designed to survive a nuclear explosion.
@denniswilliams8747
@denniswilliams8747 7 жыл бұрын
It sounds like it is running too fast to me
@christopherlawley1842
@christopherlawley1842 Жыл бұрын
Just HOW does one set about designing such a machine? Obviously a lot of repetitive parts and actions, but nevertheless. My brain hurts
@herbertpiecocha7834
@herbertpiecocha7834 7 жыл бұрын
ebike motor wasserdicht
@camerongallo5940
@camerongallo5940 6 жыл бұрын
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@hanzrank42nt72
@hanzrank42nt72 2 жыл бұрын
my math frends say thats stw 10 is forbindin
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