Restoring a Trans Am WS6 In 15 Minutes

In this video, I compiled the whole restoration into 15 minutes! This was a ton of work and honestly, I filmed way more than I have uploaded on KZbin for this project. If you are interested on some how to videos related to f-body repairs, please comment below. I have plenty of those tips and tricks ready to edit and upload. I would be happy to share. Anyways, I hope you all enjoy the video and as always, have a great day!

[@drblue5819]

Great to see somebody else taken the time to restore one of these beautiful cars. Respect bro.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@GSkyL1NE2100hp]

I'm am so glad that I have one😎

[@blexrr54]

I paint mine Friday😎

[@s2k442]

Mad respect for all the work done here. I would not have the skill, time or patience for this.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@veamer19]

Wow….just wow!! I’m super impressed with how you put all that time and effort going bare bones and fully restoring it to mint condition. The color was a spectacular choice as well!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you it took a lot of time and long hours to get it where it’s at for sure.

[@mattspontiacta]

Absolutely beautiful ! Nice craftsmanship!!! Love the Firehawk hood on steroids! Glad to see another bird saved ! 👍

[@AbcdEfg-du6bv]

A dream in 2013 to an idea, a plan, and execution. It’s beautiful John, tell the family hello.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@sucapizda]

Still can’t believe you did all that. Came out great.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@thewisebanana29]

Totaled mine in May. Red just like this one. Nice to see someone repair these beauties. Wish I coulda done that for mine 😔

[@LadyJesterSurfer]

Wow, with all the hours of love put into that bird, it’s a 6 figure car now. I plan on doing projects like this with my sons when they are old enough, going to be a vary large learning curve. Well done!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@glenlackey2]

The fit and finish is amazing. Great job guys!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@Mabirchell]

Best color ever put on these. I drove one brand new in 02. Dealer said it will never sell because of the color… wish I had bought it.

[@BIGTONY2132001]

WOW I've got to hand it to you kids!! That is no easy task, looks fantastic.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@justinadams1360]

Its time to start saving 4th gen f cars. Really are great machines. Great work thanks for sharing

[@Wonbadude]

love the vid bro! keep em coming. They really inspire me.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thanks that’s awesome. Anyone can do this stuff with enough motivation and time.

[@Arlenerae07]

Beautiful work , amazing outcome

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@mcchainlinxthatruth9386]

Man I got so much respect for you I cannot believe what I'm seeing I did not even imagine all the work you put into your business it's out of this world thank you so much for.

[@msh6865]

Now THAT was a lot of work. But, the results speak for themselves. Great to see people restoring the last gen's. Well done!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@piotrk1047]

Amazing work, definitely shows you put in the time to do this.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you I definitely spent a lot of time on this project for sure.

[@Dozelton]

This guy did master craftsman industrial level work in a 1 car home garage. That’s incredible.

[@debraimel4389]

Awesome work.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@transamman8299]

Beautiful car. Major work with a fantastic out come. Absolutely beautiful car I'm in awe

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@RoyalAviatorRepo]

Wow! Your skill and work is mesmerizing. I just bought a TransAm and am inspired!

[@obs4life228]

Beautiful color. Love the sunset metallic orange looks so good with the chrome

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you i enjoy it as well. I was debating about some candy colors but I’m more than satisfied with this color.

[@crisramirez2411]

Omg amazing work and detail!

[@inurthoughts]

About time someone shared the love for these amazing cars!!! You sir have gained another sub!!!!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you this build was a childhood dream of mine.

[@209GARAGE]

What a great video! Beautiful Trans Am! I can't wait to own one myself.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the compliment and it took me a long time to get the car and even longer to get it to this point. You will get there.

[@FugitiveVette]

Your paint looks utterly amazing 🤩

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@RanRocz]

Absolutely awesome. Hope your proud of your achievements. Terrific work..💪💪

[@ClayBonics]

Nice paintwork

[@stvkomer]

thats better than factory. Nice OEM + restoration. amazing work.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@kenyanr1]

Awesome work

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank it has been a labor of love for sure.

[@guns942]

Glad to see you saving a gem. Beautiful cars.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I agree. I hate seeing these in scrap yards.

[@Blue04Z71]

Beautiful! This is one of my dream cars. I have a 79 TA but I really want a 4th gen.. Awesome work!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I agree. I like the 79’s as well.

[@just_mike7060]

Holy smoking biscuits bro!!! Beautiful i love it, the hood too awesome. Beautiful 😍

[@todd8109]

Really nice work man

[@camdenblosser110]

Awesome transformation!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@aaronloritts3937]

WOW! Very nice work!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@MotorScotti]

Fabulous work! You can be proud of yourself!!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@GeorgeStar]

Awesome! Beautiful restoration. And restoring a used car is a lot more environmentally friendly than buying an EV.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@D.Magic_]

Great work

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@wob6776]

Really satisfying to watch, and beautiful end result. I commend your effort, especially for not having that many subscribers yet and not knowing how far the video will go. Great production!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you I really appreciate that. I’ve been striving to get better at filming and editing however I’m limited on my time and resources currently because I have a body shop I started just after the trans am project. I’m just doing my best to keep going and have big goels for the channel in the future. It’s just taking some time to get everything sorted out. I greatly appreciate your comment though cause sometimes it is very tiring to keep going. Have a great rest of your weekend.

[@journeymenautodetail8205]

Wow!! You have inspired me to get started on my 96 Formula!! Beautiful Bird My Friend!!!!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I hope your car comes out amazing.

[@tekatomon]

this is a work of art. bravo

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@CK90]

Beautiful! ! ! ! !

[@johnh6532]

Nice job. Very impressive.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@chriswalker6776]

Nice ride and great job

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@nikkonunzio7499]

Lots of work great end result …. Looks awesome 👍

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@frankc.9368]

What a WONDERFUL job. You are a very talented guy. Love, love, love the paint! If you are actually planning on making more of these I have a request. I will never be able to do a complete project like this, but it would be great if you let us regular guys know what aftermarket parts you use and where you find them. It's an old saying but true. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! Great work you guys. Nicely done!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the kind words and I will gladly share any information that will help anyone with there own vehicle. I bought the hood from VFN it’s called the smoothie que so far that’s the only real aftermarket part I can think of right away, but feel free to ask any questions about any part of these F-body cars. I’ve now been through almost every nut and bolt on them a few times so I’m happy to help make it easier for someone else.

[@stormlossing3345]

How hard would a auto to manual transmission swap be?

[@eyecandycreations7463]

@@stormlossing3345 I’ve never done one on one of these cars. Although this is my best guess to guide you there. Looking up some other threads of people that have would help as well. But I believe you would need the wiring harness for the transmission/ might be the engine harness. But I’m not sure about that. But that’s probably the worst part. I would guess you need the trans crossmember, pedal assembly, hydraulic slave cylinder with master, center console, maybe the Ecm. But I think everything will bolt right up on the car. Your best bet is to find a parts car or some junk yard exploring to collect all those parts. But it all depends on how much money and time a person wants to spend.

[@jpontiac4294]

Always loved this color ❤️....awsome to see others loving these classics....hope they bring back the TA

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I agree I would love to see these come back as well.

[@SKRooU2]

don't hold your breathe especially since the whole Pontiac line was discontinued. There is even talk about the Camaros getting the noose. I use to work for Pontiac and Trans Ams are my fav cars. I have an all orig, '98 ws9 and I get ppl, all of the time anting to buy it but they are getting more rare all of the time especially stock like mine. The prices and value are shooting upwards. You are better off to buy one now instead of waiting and hoping for them to be brought back as the chance is pretty much nill.

[@Zelaznogsiul-63]

You guys are good, wow. Great video.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@adriancano3991]

Wow Amazing work

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@jasonchristopher2977]

All I can say is Holy Bat shit. Idk how old u r young man but u got some skills. Alot of ppl are great at 1 thing. Great welding, painting, body work etc. Urr pretty dam good on all of it. No BS, cutting corners, 3 gallons of bondo and old tennis shoes to fill the holes, No shit I had a car like that, pulled on a string hanging down and out came a new balance, wrapped in plastic and shop rags. She looked good from the outside. I learned as a 18 yr old man to really look a vehicle over. They can look like a 10 but be a 2. I'm proud of what you have done. Always been a fan of the screaming chicken. Had a 87 trans am with a 327 chevy out of a 71 Corvette. With a 5 speed that thing would go 120 mph on interstate and rev at barely 1300 rpm. Had a hot cam and a 850 double pumper with mechanical secondaries. Miss that car. Keep up doing this work. There's money in the skills you have. Many ppl see a vehicle that gets totaled by a deer and just get another. Great video. Great car.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you that means a lot. I also had a 87 trans am but that was when I was in high school and I never got to finish it so this was my first car I got to do for myself.

[@jasonchristopher2977]

@@eyecandycreations7463 There's just something about those cars. I was never a Camaro fan of the late models, but tge older late 60s are nice. I don't like that Catfish look. lmao. I know it's not easy with a family. I have a few kids and between them and the wife it's hard to find time to do any wrenching. You did a great job. Please keep doing that and making videos showing it done. Alot of kids now days are to wrapped up in screens or video games. Every time I see a younger kid in a car that was made decades before their birth it makes me smile knowing they got some gas in their veins and grease under their nails. Newer vehicles are boring and quite ugly. From the beginning of the 20th century to about mid 70s cars had style, u could tell what it was by its design, now they all look blah. Yes the Demon, Vette, Camaro, Stang have serious power and some style, but every car had it then. Those guys like Earle and Shelby are gone but u can see their taste in the GM and Shelbys. Keep it up bud. Have a great weekend. Thank you.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

@@jasonchristopher2977 thanks for the encouragement it really does help I have hope to do some more major builds once the funds and time present themselves.

[@wesfregerio8522]

Absolutely beautiful. I am an aspiring restorer that wishes I had a mentor like you.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you if your any where in the Kansas City area look me up.

[@EmmittMAKNHP]

Impressive video!

[@unnameduser1045]

Nice work!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@coderedcamaro4812]

That's an insane amount of work !!! Great job!!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you I didn’t start out planning to do all of it but as I dug in and found more issues and felt the need to address it all.

[@coderedcamaro4812]

@@eyecandycreations7463 I'm actually planning a build of a 1997 that has half of a ws6 conversion done and I was thinking about all the work it needs but it is miniscule compared to your building.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

@@coderedcamaro4812 nice well my car had so many issues going in I just wanted to eliminate all the headaches.

[@sanchezjames82]

Awsome restoration I was going to buy a 1983 k5 blazer but I was intimated by all the things I needed to fix and I don't have the time the space tools and the knowledge to do it but I'd rather have a 2002 ws6 jet black.

[@vincentgreen5166]

Man your just as great as the goonsquad bro! Put out more content

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you I definitely plan too I’m working on some fun builds for the future.

[@ryanregula98]

Epic job man! You and whom ever helped out should be very proud. Also,your wife, I'm assuming, is a total Boss. Not only to be okay with a hobby this time consuming, but to help out even while holding a little one!! Congrats on both the fantastic car and a cool lady!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I will pass that along to my wife she is my biggest supporter/helper. She does anything to she can to help.

[@expeditionjay]

Incredible work! The results speak for themselves. The trans am turned out beautiful. You and your family should be proud.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the compliment. We are finally getting to enjoy the car again. Before we started it just had so many issues we weren’t able to really use the car anymore. So it’s been nice to have a nice car again.

[@expeditionjay]

@@eyecandycreations7463 I have a 99 Firehawk and have been in the process of restoring mine for a few years now. I put the car in storage for about 12 years and have been replacing, resoring or refurbishing most of the wear out items on the car including the engine. A repaint and a new rear is going in this spring. It's a process but one to be proud of when complete.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

@@expeditionjay For sure that’s awesome sometimes there no good stopping place on vehicles.

[@johncole9798]

I'm in Awe of the amount of work and detail you have put into this rebuild, absolutely stunning. I've done a LS swap and front end swap on my LT1 TA, but it's no were near as being as nice as yours. I really appreciate this video, has motivated me to put more love and attention to my own TA.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the compliments. It was more work then I initially intended. But sometimes it’s hard to find a good stoping point.

[@MRNagiii]

appreciate the hard work.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@CamaroKevin84]

U missed a spot .. 😂. I'm just playing. I love it!!!!!!

[@domtorres6120]

Wow a lot of work great job.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@zachattack2016]

My goodness your skilled.. Glad to see you saving these F bodies and taking wrecked ones to help fix others! I love sunset orange! I've seen a guy cut 2 Trans Ams in half ( one wrecked in front and his was in the back) and weld them together. was perfect. everything lined up, t tops didn't leak!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I have some other plans for this car or maybe another trans am in the future. I’ve never done a full clip cut like what your describing but I’ve seen lots of people do it. One of the guys that I learned from was going to help me do that when I was kid but it never worked out. Anyways Thanks again for the kind words and for subscribing.

[@giuseppespataro6527]

Wow very well done

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@shawnmcpeak7934]

DAMN! What a SWEET ride!!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@chadashley1434]

Nice build, could you imagine some pearls on that paint with those curves and lines

[@eyecandycreations7463]

That would look great I almost did some stuff like that but I wanted to be able to match it easily later if I need too.

[@lifebringsus4393]

Wow great job!!! That was an assload of work! Great to see another fbody back on the road.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thanks man the car needed a ton and was rotting away. I’m great full I was able to do it.

[@lifebringsus4393]

@@eyecandycreations7463 able to do it? You excelled!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

@@lifebringsus4393 Thank you

[@lifebringsus4393]

@@eyecandycreations7463 no prob, you thanked yourself by bringing that car back to life.

[@MidwestMotor]

Well damn at least put some Armor All on those tires! I'M KIDDING!!!!!! This was just way too cool !!!! Thanks for doing this! I had a '79 and an '89 TA that I miss so much!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the complement I also have a 3rd gen car at one point. Maybe at some point I will do a build on one of those cars as well.

[@Justicesfor]

That is ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS! I had an 02 T tops metallic bright silver chrome rims ram air hood black leather interior for 5 years paid it off and it was stolen engine flooded sued a person lost had to sell it for a grand 🤦‍♂️ I wish I still had one. Enjoyed it when I was home vs being over seas 3 times in 4 years in the Marines. Infantry. My dream is to have one again.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the compliment and sorry to hear for your misfortune. I hope you are able to pick one of these up again some day.

[@Justicesfor]

@@eyecandycreations7463 thank you! I really appreciate that :)

[@Justicesfor]

@@eyecandycreations7463 and again yes! Absolutely amazing what you can do with your talent!

[@MiguelGonzalez-xw8ie]

EXCELENTE trabajó!!!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@kevinbryant6459]

Absolutely beautiful job guys! What a beautiful car nicely done I have an 88 GTA 5 speed with t-tops that I am redoing right now I love trans am's I would love to get a 4th Gen at some point as well great video guys thanks

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and my first trans am was a 1987 formula I always wanted to do big things with it but never had the opportunity. I really like the 88 GTA cars as well.

[@kevinbryant6459]

@@eyecandycreations7463 yeah they're all very fun cars you got a new subscriber and I will keep watching your videos thanks for the reply guys have a good one

[@eyecandycreations7463]

@@kevinbryant6459 thank you for subscribing

[@SKRooU2]

the 3rd and 4th gens are really going up on value and price. You best be getting a 4th gen soon while they are still barely affordable. I have had 2 '85 T/A's and a '86 IROC and my '98 T/A is WAYYY better car than those . The differences are night and day. To me the seats and seating position is way better and easier on the back. The ride is smoother and it handles better. The power is so much more as there is really no comparison

[@TheodoreAndor]

What?? Thats awesome..beautiful

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@terrancebyrd6908]

That were dope as hell, Nice job. Sure wasn't 15 mins tho.

[@nadasimusic]

I thought it was gonna show the kid all grown up at the end lololol. "18 years later the build was finally complete!" 😂😂

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Haha it felt like it was never going to end. Fortunately it only took a year and a half. But that felt like forever.

[@importg37]

Awesome sauce, she’s a beauty! I luv this Sunset Orange Metallic color!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you I agree I love the color

[@MegaDeth859]

Wow, having owned 4 Trans Ams in my life, I want to give you a huge thumbs up. That took a lot of work. Congratulations!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you I really appreciate it.

[@jizzo2009]

Owning a Trans Am WS6 and having to source and replace a few parts OEM I can only imagine how expensive this was even doing the work yourself! Congrats for keeping jt in the road! SOM one of the best colors!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the kind words. it was and still is a huge challenge to find good parts. I still haven’t added the cost up but I have a rough idea and it’s a lot more than just buying a another one. But it’s something I wanted to do. I also really like that color a lot.

[@servine1212]

When you made it to the back of the car i cried.

[@jeffyeager4045]

That's a little extreme

[@jturk1563]

Man that thing is beautiful! You did an awesome job on everything, but that paint job is on point! Now just lower that bad boy 😉 still one of my favorite cars of all time

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I agree the suspension needs some attention.

[@shameemali7106]

Bro i really appreciate the talent u guys have and i never comment on any videos, but i had too because i love these cars and have 3 of them. Was selling 1 to cash for clunkers to scrap in 08 but my heart wouldn't let me kill this rare bird 97 convrt 6sp lt1 and 2 ws6 01 auto

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the compliment and that’s awesome you have three man. This was a childhood dream of mine so it was nice to finally get the opportunity to build it.

[@WS6TA9T8]

great job guys awesome work! you happen to have any sail panel removal and replacement videos?

[@eyecandycreations7463]

I don’t think I do. I could give tips on how to do it but I avoided it by just leaving it on there when I painted my car. It didn’t have the bubbling problems. Maybe I will go find one in a junk yard and make video for ya.

[@davestewart1656]

This can is in my top 5 wants list.

[@dmb1995ta]

Wow, this guy is really good! Extreme talent all around! Plus working off the garage floor not a hoist!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you for the kind words. This was very challenging in a small garage for sure.

[@jpontiac4294]

Love the video......such beautiful vehicles!! So unfortunate that Pontiac doesn't exist anymore as these WS6 were my favorite.....awsome color choice

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I agree. I wish they were still making cars as well.

[@1969camaro]

Beautiful car good job🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@gambitm7480]

Very nice car !

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@tonybowden527]

This is incredible. I'm restoring my '98, and I wish I had the time to let it get to this level. I'm restoring the undercarriage and engine bay, but a full bodywork/respray would be awesome. I love the hood, been considering swapping my ill-fitting and broken raptor for one of those, this may sell me on it.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and it took me about a year and a half to get it to this point. Just so you know on the VFN smoothie Q hood. It took a lot of effort to make it fit as well as it does. I love the look of it I just wish it would have fit easier. I’m a body Man by trade and this was the hardest hood I have ever made fit. But it may be different on your car. Sometimes they fit better on other cars. I wish you well and if you want any tips or tricks in the future let me know and I’m happy to share them.

[@spawnedin71]

@@eyecandycreations7463 Wow!!! Awesome job.......wish I had the know how, tools, an above all, the patience to do this!! lol.....funny, just ordered the VFN WSQ hood for my '98 TA, to replace the damaged Firehawk hood I had on it.....

[@eyecandycreations7463]

@@spawnedin71 Thank you for the compliment. It took a long time to acquire the knowledge, tools and definitely the patience. I hope you enjoy the WSQ hood. I would be curious how much work it takes you to get it to fit properly. I had a hard time getting mine to fit the way it does.

[@spawnedin71]

@@eyecandycreations7463 Well, I'll find out when the body/paint shop calls me, lol......had it shipped directly there to save on freight. Supposedly it has all the instructions and also a number they can call if there are any issues.....but I have heard the same thing for a lot of aftermarket hoods in general.....

[@eyecandycreations7463]

@@spawnedin71 ya that’s kinda the story with most aftermarket parts. You can still make them look nice but it takes work. Also some are just not useable but ya never know till you fit it all up. But that will look sweet on your car I’m sure.

[@chadowen289]

Sweet ride

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@richardgriffin2659]

Sick!!!!!!!! Dude

[@rigelws6]

That's sublime work 👏 what color is this?

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and the color is Sunset Orange Metallic.

[@richarddobreny6664]

nice Firehawk hood!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@ksh8494]

Respect bro.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@misterbuklau4053]

I like the 93-97 front end its simple and sharp

[@nonox6353]

Amazing job and love the sunset metallic orange color you choose for the car! Do you Have any tips or how-to vids on leaky t-tops or how to replace the weather stripping on these cars?

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you. I don’t currently have a video on the leaky t-tops yet however. I will do one. Mine were leaking before and they still have a slight leak that I haven’t had time to come back to yet. I l know there is a few aftermarket companies that make a kit for them. There is a ton of adjustments between the windows and the t-tops. Thanks for the input I will try to get some stuff together to make a video on that. I don’t have a time line for it but I will get on that for sure.

[@Lucas_Tulic]

Awesome rebuild! Beautiful car, also! Loved it. New sub! Cheers from Buenos Aires, Argentina!

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and also thank you for subscribing

[@92OnTV]

pure love :)

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@juanguevara7219]

Good job.

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you

[@4th_Gen_Hawk]

Great video. That hood is super nice… who makes that hood?

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and the hood is made by VPN it’s called smoothie Q. It took a lot of time and patience to make it fit as good as it does. But I really like the look and design of it.

[@Fix-it-tony]

Nice job, hard part now begins with all the finishing touches, took me another year to finish my WS6. Look on Amazon for the decals

[@eyecandycreations7463]

Thank you and I definitely will I have the trans am emblems but the ws6 badge needs help and the triangle trim pieces on the sail panel are in sad shape.