Retired general on soldier who fled to North Korea: ‘I think he defected’ | Dan Abrams Live

[@JH-gc3ye]

We should just forget him…he defected. Treasonous behavior should not be tolerated

[@ian_ford]

We don't know his reasons. It is immature to speculate he was in fact defecting. We don't know the state of his mental health during his incarceration prior to running across the border. Perhaps we will never know.

[@chialuenlis5931]

​@@ian_fordhe defected because he was about to get court marshalled. Just like most American that defected to North Korea.

[@generalbrowser680]

And that's why we are glad not to have someone like you in a place of important, life affecting decisions.

[@JH-gc3ye]

@@ian_ford it takes some serious mental health to make a life altering decision like NK…just saying everyone is going through something, everyone has gone through something bad. We just handle our problems differently. This guy at the most would’ve had a slap on the wrist for the assault crimes he did, at the most a discharge but not a dishonorable one. He would’ve been fine he’s young full life ahead for him. He’s a dum dum. He’s a legit dummy. Few Americans in the past did this, all dummies like this guy. All faced criminal charges.

[@JH-gc3ye]

@@generalbrowser680 I mean why waste time on someone who literally intended to cross? -_- he didn’t want a slap on the wrist, he wanted to alter his life. It be hard to comeback from this….quite literally…not to mention Korea isn’t the most welcoming to outsiders. He is a E-2. No valuable intelligence. Just a dummy who ran from a slap on the wrist.

[@jaysuneakle]

Well, i sure hope we don't spend too much time and money trying to get him back.

[@cbm2156]

The US Government pays the North Korean government 1 million each for body remains [MIAs] of US military from the Korean war, but since this guy is not dead yet, he has no value to the US Army.

[@vudoo6]

Leave him. Resources should be spent on those that got captured. Not those that went over willingly

[@rick6672]

So don't get him back because he's black?

[@Lee_Plenty]

Hes black so we gotta bring him back but if hes white he'll be alrite. 🤦‍♂️smfh.

[@Lee_Plenty]

@@124xhappeleshowsLook, that quote I posted was not mine thats generally how the left would view this situation. I believe if you are a true patriot the US should do all they can to bring you back home. Britney Griner should still be in a Russian Gulag and I hope we leave this defecto in NK as well. In the case of Outto wasnt Trump in Office when he was returned home? I think so.

[@Thewu168]

Would be hilarious if the North Koreans kicked him out

[@johnhmielewski1230]

King is worth a lot to the NK military with whatever intelligence he may have learned while serving US forces. NK will treat this fool like a king until they squeeze everything he knows out of him then they will let him rot.

[@goenzoy]

NK is not interested in US military Only exception maybe nuclear aspects .This private has nothing to offer to them

[@hp2474]

Unless he is another Jack Teixeira I doubt they trusted this 2nd class Pvt with much intelligence he can share

[@tome8373]

He’s a private with less than a year and a half in. Bro barely knows where formation is let alone secrets.

[@RonnieStanley-tc6vi]

@@tome8373 . The guy had already been demoted recently. His rank is as low as you can go in the Army. That means he had his rank stripped from a court marshal. He might have been an addict and the Army doesn't want to out him.

[@cbm2156]

This guy is too dumb to give any meaningful information to the NKs. His only value to the NK is he is an American which is also his worse problem.

[@MrVince8]

You just cannot fix "stupid".

[@baldingeagle8404]

Yea he should have not been allowed in the military they need to filter out idiots like him

[@wonderbeest]

Let him stay there!! He went willingly. That's his problem.

[@buckysimmons5164]

Love the way the SecDef spins this " He was on a TOUR" . Failed to mention he was put on a plane back to the US. He told the flight attendant he didn't have his passport and was walked out of the airport, joined a tour, then ran. MPs should have watched the plane take off with him on it. If he comes back after this administration pays for him. I'm sure he'll get a promotion and probably a medal. I knew two of the guys killed trying to find that other coward. They had families that loved them !

[@alienlife7754]

And he’ll accuse racism for him trying this.

[@grizzlycountry1030]

The ones who defected in 1960s were tortured and interrogated first. Only one ever got out of north korea. Being a soldier in civilian clothes they will treat him as a spy.

[@ryancasey919]

Where is Dennis Rodman when you need him?!

[@evinkleinman6052]

@@ViperGamings true that daddy love you

[@WhoWhoandZulu]

How many days did it take to figure out he defected ? And who headed the commitee that figured this out ? They deserve a raise and a promotion ....

[@alienlife7754]

Well they had to take time and resources away from the white supremicist boogie man hunt in the military so it took a while . . .

[@brett19890]

He ran away to participate in BloodSport. He will return once he wins the kumite.

[@viralmachiavelli]

I made a frank dux kumite comment on another video. Glad Im not the only one. Haha

[@FroddeB]

This soldiers brain levels just hit a new low

[@JH-gc3ye]

Yeah he did lol same as the news and everyone who says we need to get him back lol honestly we should leave him to his own fate. He went to the wolves, that was his choice. Could’ve had it a lot easier. He could’ve have his court Marshall and been dishonorable discharged, and moved on with his life and still manage to somewhat comeback. Defecting to NK…quite literally hard to come back from that…

[@travishall-mi1dp]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@trique9776]

Imagine being a black man in North Korea. Wow.

[@user-tx9zg5mz5p]

Let him rott there😂

[@IanJohnGonzales]

He was scared of whats gonna happen to him in Fort Bliss.

[@SkinnyVinnie]

US discipline a lot less worse than NK interrogation, wtf was this dude thinking?

[@Spider_Cuh706]

Probably NK girls 😂

[@alienlife7754]

I suspect he heard somewhere about the two U.S. soldiers who defected during the Korean war and supposedly lived like celebrities in NK. He had visions of him and Kim rolling with some 40’s. Lol. He is so screwed.

[@starlessmystery6429]

The way North Korea is….. if he had crossed over into almost any other country in the world they would have just sent him back. It boggles my mind that this is the way the leader there thinks. There’s no conflict really. This guy probably has very little valuable information to impart. They are asking for defectors from North Korea to be returned in exchange for him because they know this. It’s just like a child, creating a conflict. To get attention.

[@rt-rd5of]

What if he wants to be there and has asked that he is not sent back?

[@starlessmystery6429]

@@rt-rd5of well I’m not against that notion

[@alienlife7754]

Iran would seize him. So would Indonesia. Iran would give him back for concessions. Indonesia might waste him right off.

[@bsing2u]

Leave him there. No need to negotiate.

[@drymustard]

Let Dennis Rodman save him

[@sonnylaurenceajero2393]

Leave him there. He is a traitor, a waste of tax-payers money

[@yowzephyr]

The longer Travis is in North Korea the more lucrative his book will be if he ever winds up a free man in the United States again and gets himself a good ghostwriter.

[@thatwildginger5423]

He will not be able to get back. Read up on the Korean war era defectors. Some had defected and living there, tried to escape and come back, and were captured and punished, both died prematurely

[@yowzephyr]

@@thatwildginger5423 I don't know the history of defectors to N. Korea, but I would bet that Travis King is the first black person to defect to N. Korea. Commies and other despots try to play the race card when they get their hands on a black American, but I don't think it ever gains them any advantage. Dennis Rodman might be able to get Travis freed if Dennis feels like making the effort. This is assuming Travis wants to be freed. We don't know that he's regretting his extraordinary option.

[@LoLoLifeinFlorida]

Leave him there.

[@writerconsidered]

I don't think he defected, that requires intelligence. I think he has an impulse control problem and ran away from his problems. He did not think this through.

[@SophisticatedBob]

I hope that in the next few days, this defector will simply be ignored for the remainder of his days. If NK decides to put him on TV, tortured/beaten, etc., so be it. He chose this. He was a grown man, in the military no less. Have a great life...the end. We won't of course, he'll be a political pawn used by both parties to elicit anger from the bleeding hearts. But the man chose this.

[@AntonBerglund88]

The DPRK would never treat a defector like that lest they be a spy. James Dresnok is a great example of how well people who flee american tyranny and degeneracy are treated.

[@bigheadrhino]

Did you watch til the end? American defectors get treated well and used as propaganda tools.

[@grimreaper3576]

They will treat him like a hero and use him too fuel there propaganda machine

[@AntonBerglund88]

@@grimreaper3576 i just found out hes african, i hope what OP said comes to pass.

[@georgemiller9212]

There is only one man who can bring him back, John J Rambo, where are you?

[@Republic4ever714]

No I think he just trying to skirt court martial but that won’t work.

[@alienlife7754]

That was his intent anyway. But right now I suspect he is sleep deprived, hungry, cold, and just a bit more than beaten up. Foolish kid. If he somehow gets traded for another international weapons dealer and spy I am gonna be pissed.

[@vevediaz6519]

Agreed

[@MultiPetercool]

Weed is legal in the DPRK. Mic drop.

[@redmoneylady2213]

Damn, he drank the Kool-aid!!!!

[@therichtershow]

he had a lot of motivation to return back home...

[@germanshepherd6638]

Why do we want him back? After he chose to flee? Criminals flee to Mexico all the time. This guy just forgot what border he was at.

[@bigheadrhino]

3:39 Lol, this general over here advertising for North Korea.

[@LS-mc2rv]

I know that commenting doesn’t accomplish much but I’m doing it anyway. On another video comments a soldier who trained with this man said that it was obvious he had problems. He could have a psychological condition such as schizophrenia that is just fully showing up now. Who knows maybe he had a breakdown but to say that he had put rational thought into what he did seems to be a stretch. That soldier that trained with him said that he never should have been retained in the first place.

[@ekoopasetapart3933]

Ide leave him be, he wanted to leave...

[@Crismodin]

Just let him abandon, mark him as a deserter, if he comes back we'll put him in prison. No need to do a prisoner transfer for someone like this.

[@iftheteafits]

Can he be forced to return to the USA?

[@ravikurup8350]

Bruh is playing basketball and singing happy birthday to Kim J Un. 😂

[@kagemaru259]

I must be tired from working so many hours lately because I read that as “He defecated on the DMZ.”

[@louisramirez9277]

Ran off laughing like the Joker .. maybe he knows something we don't

[@lovewins-1]

That soldier is a brainiac 😅

[@potoker2296]

Honestly this guy assulted a person in south korea went to jail, got out and snuck across a mine feild to go to north korea which constitues military advancement on north korean territory. North korea beats people for interrogation, they also have a poison that is not detectable in normal lab screening made by RI SUNG GI the inventor of vinylon. This is what North Korean defectors think about what happened to otto warmbier. Just so people know, a good house, good food and all that diesnt mean hes getting a ferrarri. In north korea the people are starving, the lower level military members dont eat much and the only people who get anything are those in power doing deals in the black market. This guy is gonna see the difference between american "good" and North korean "good". Honestly this guy i hope the best for him but i dont think its gonna play out like he hopes it will. They probably will propogandize this as americas so bad he escaped to north korea but for the last 20 years defectors have been flying balloons of videos, dvd players, medical textbooks, and food into north korea to help the people there. The common north korean knows that they are one of the worse off in the world, which is why we see an uptick of north korean slaves in china, which is the safer route for them to escape plus the people who smuggling deal in human sex slave trafficking which in china is almost legal as long as the slave is north korean and defectors to south korea but south korea is watched like a hawk, the border and the ocean is under patrol by both sides so its hard to use that route.

[@MajorCLJ]

My thought too. They will use him for propaganda. Hell he may have is on show on their State-Run television. As long as he says shitty stuff about the US, he will not be beaten or tortured.

[@Michael-yj6kk]

This in no way constitutes a military advancement.

[@potoker2296]

@Michael-yj6kk I'm talking about the propaganda that North korea will release to the public, just like whenever we see a civilian who has been arrested in North korea there's reports from north korea that the person in question is probably a spy sent to north korea posing as a tourist which happened to otto warmbier and simular happened to about 3 others. Just on July 10th, North korea says they "repelled a US spy plane" and, in retaliation, launched an ICBM and said that while the US is threatening them, they will not stop developing nuclear weapons. This type of thing isn't normally main stream western news. Actually, you have to Google most of it to even see what's being pushed as propaganda in the region. Now I would say that North korea isn't a threat by themselves to the United states and their allies, but the threat comes in who is heavily backing the leader of North korea. China has a history of taking North koreas side in conflicts, even the war that is still ongoing between the US and South Korea and China and North korea. China has, in the past 50 years, strengthened themselves to be the only viable threat to the major world powers. They have been stealing US tech, and they produce 80 percent of the goods that people use, including medical supplies/ equipment and masks, as we all seen around the world during covid. China even recently released a near copy of our most recent (public) fighter jet, and their navy is growing strength. Taiwan is being threatened to be recaptured by china, which, as people realized, Taiwan is a major supplier of chipsets and rare earth materials. If I were China or North korea and you want other countries to back out of an immoral fight, you slander the shit out the US and its allies as a pretense for war while at the same utilizing that propaganda to solidify your citizens into giving it their all during a fight. Honestly China has even involved in building road and bridges in Africa in exchange for building settlements and military installations in corrupt African countries, China has a good relationship with the Mexican drug cartels which really run the Mexican government and has been since 1990. China US involved with deforestation and illegal transport of trees from the rainforest. China is where the fentanyl which is coming from China, is sourced from. China has built Chinese police stations on the United states and in other countries along with owning the largest port in California. China has bought most of the farmland from Australia and forced the aboriginal tribes off the land to raise cattle to combat US supremacy in pork and beef export. China has the largest amount of factorys and construction is still being done to create more, which will help them if they have to make planes or tanks simular to US during WW2. There's thousands more examples of how China could actually be a threat to the US, but the simplest one is pure population density, They have 1.41 billion people which just means if your their enemy you gotta make each soldier on average kill 4 people to break even where both sides are gone. I'm not saying this is going to happen, but I think even worse is if China becomes the new world power economically which would give them a chance to resume their goal the party there has had since the founding, which isn't good for more then 3/4th of the planet.

[@JRCinKY]

"Junior Enlisted Officer" WTF?. He's a damn Private and busted down too boot.

[@ricknelson947]

I don’t see what the problem is. We had an American soldier who suddenly emigrated to North Korea. Let’s all wish him well and move on.

[@gringoreno]

Why wasn't he under guard

[@shary1283]

News broke out and I knew he ran away to NK to avoid charges in US.😂😂

[@tessietesoro7407]

Why bother, respect Travis' decision to defect in order to avoid Military court-martial

[@SlackHoffman]

He’s joined North Korea Low Riders …as low as you can go .KeRrrrPang

[@NottheotherAmberinMichigan]

Oh well. Hope his family doesn’t care.

[@123MGtv]

Maybe he suffered a mental health crisis from being in the army or he was laced at a party ? Anyone ever think about that ? We really have to question someone who ran into north korea laughing, sounds pretty odd

[@sonnylaurenceajero2393]

We need John Rambo and OO7 to bring him back

[@2puffs770]

He think he playing "Red light, Green Light"😂😂😉😉🤣🤣

[@willybeama1]

This story makes NO SENSE!

[@sgs1262]

I think he's just an F up

[@gman6584]

Maybe dennis rodman can get him back😊

[@gringoreno]

Why deserter I'm 60.s he would be in Leavenworth for 20 years leave him there,,army 63 69 DAV

[@meepmeepziptang]

I’m no retired general, but I think he defected too

[@AmorArdet]

Id say it was on purpose because the first hand reports say he was laughing as he ran

[@iftheteafits]

He didn't run towards the border 'on accident'! Of course it was a deliberate act! 😣

[@AmorArdet]

@@iftheteafitshahahahhaa

[@indianoutlaw1313]

He is a deserter, leave him there

[@thomclark7641]

Leave his ass there in a work camp and he'll be begging to be in the land of the big PX.

[@michaelakiyama2891]

The retired General was about to say that he didn't think that Travis King's , and then there was silence , , and when he resumed talking it was nothing about what he was saying . A Freudian slip is what happened and the truth is that Travis King is in no way being treated like Otto Warmbier , who was a Criminal that was taken in to custody on the Passenger Plane that was about to leave North Korea . Otto Warmbier decision to steal property , , a poster that was on a wall , and he took that stolen poster with him and got on the passenger plane and actually thought that he was going to get away with the poster that he had stolen . The Propaganda that the United States was and Still continue's to use is false .O W was a Thief and what the North Korean's did to him they would never do the same thing to Travis King .

[@rhondennis979]

He won't pull any of that getto behavior in NK. They're going to have a blast with him.

[@900noob]

He's from Wisconsin KIA boys lol

[@gman6584]

Leave the thug there. Poor leadership would spend any efforts in trying to get him back. Secretary Arston be a real leader with some guts

[@jayelbee1111]

The soldier was facing separation action, is now facing court martial if he is turned back over to the U.S., but his safety and welfare is the main concern for now. If North Korea refuses to release him, they can torture or kill him while in captivity. If he is turned back over to the U.S., he is most likely going to be convicted for AWOL/desertion and sentenced. He will most likely be serving time at Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas in a military prison doing hard labor and then he will be dishonorable discharged. So, either way he is screwed. He did it to himself.

[@lucmarchand617]

No no you don't understand sushi with grass is better military ratio.nk have good firing squad for soldier you figure.

[@dreamersudderth255]

Who cares i dont .....

[@504S]

He'll be ok... besides Chairman Kim likes Dennis Rodman so i don't believe He'll be hurt

[@bnellaniyah]

I find this story fascinatingly hilarious. LMBO😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@jaimepagpaguitan2481]

Correction Private First Class there's no such rank as Private second class Get the media straight not just saying wherever they get there information means media don't know nothing about military rank structure

[@benjaminwilliams3568]

What private 2nd Class? Our U.S. Army Has No such Rank. Facts Matter in telling the news Correctly.

[@tome8373]

He didn’t defect. He was afraid of what his family would think of him getting kicked out. He was in his early twenties and made a dumb choice. Stop overthinking this.

[@cbm2156]

Defecting while being a member of the US Military is not just a dumb choice. It is a traitorous and unlawful choice. Just for this act he could go to prison for life. This guy took an oath when he enlisted in the Army to defend this country and its constitution. This is not about bad choices but criminal behavior.

[@jackthomas9137]

@@cbm2156you can go to prison for almost anything in USA

[@Spider_Cuh706]

He’s in North Korea now, he needs to get out first

[@yungsmile7546]

He wanted to be there to meet and greet Trump that is defected.

[@Chris-gi9ch]

I doubt he defected. I think he was trying to pull a quick cross over, and return to start shit and gain notoriety. He just grosly over estimated his athletic ability. Worst odds to gamble on and the worst time on trying to fee him.

[@alienlife7754]

So you think this was a TikTok stunt? Really?

[@Chris-gi9ch]

@@alienlife7754 One would not even need a camera guy to make news pulling a fast one with that. Had he made back on the return, the North would've been furious as hell! That's likely what he was doing, but he has a big ego problem and grossly underestimated the response! He gambled his life and unfortunately lost.......Make no mistake I definitely don't support sending someone in to try and help him, unless it's Rodman.

[@risbolensky3921]

well duh 😆

[@robvangrieken2615]

Rambo?

[@michael-m]

Hmm....thats an interesting assessment

[@alienlife7754]

Gee Einstein. Ya really think so? Duh

[@willli8163]

Have fun with that 😂

[@thatguy8005]

Kid soldiers… so stupid things…

[@guessundheit6494]

I see Abrams wants to make is look like he still works for NBC.

[@carlosrauld]

Death penalty

[@davidskeels1511]

C'mon BLM do yo thang 🤣

[@janettecase4732]

prefect for planted body spy and bomb plant inside body push of button using useless man excuss does not balance in day and age maybe they got him first and spy plant in body make for a good book dont ya think and ikeep seeing is book seens and some movie seens played out no matter where church the worse drama drama drama people r acting out games movies

[@maryeheinly8256]

I’m feeling bad about this man ! The leader of NK is nuts and is a murderer ( his own parent/s ) to be leader . Not to cool for this service man .

[@joshferguson3113]

He deserves everything coming to him he's a traitor to the u.s

[@cbm2156]

Calling this guy a service man is an insult to everyone who has served honorable in the US Military.

[@alienlife7754]

Kim is actually on his way out. His SISTER of all people is gaining more power. And she’s scarier than him.

[@jtc2366]

His family should be so proud