Retired Major MVP! Cheating Accusations?! Big Game Player! - Who is flusha? - CSGO

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Some thoughts on the decorated career of the legendary, infamous and now retired flusha.
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[@CatnamedMittens]

The best Fnatic era was their Evil Empire Days after the olofboost thing where they leaned into being the bad guys. He was a part of that "evilness" with his sketchy play.

[@d.cirovic1695]

Still my favourite era in csgo. Better and more entertaining games back then, eventhough todays skill ceiling is very entertaining.

[@CatnamedMittens]

@@d.cirovic1695 yes agreed. We were peeling off CS 1.6 history and making our own back then.

[@nader91]

the bad boys pistons of csgo

[@CatnamedMittens]

@@nader91 yep

[@chasefitkin603]

​@@d.cirovic16954:59 5:07 😊

[@mitch-ur1ip]

One of the most unique and entertaining players in the history of csgo imo. Never flashy, but always a showman, if you get what I mean. With the knifes and sneaky plays, etc

[@droogbear649]

There was a game of his on train, maybe it was the series against faze, where he went ape shit and completely wrecked the opposing teams tournament. His play in that game always stands out in my mind

[@yland3r]

I always remember that train map too. Fnatic was down and flusha suddenly woke up to wreck pure havoc. Watching that live was unreal

[@liam3104]

i was new to watching cs at the time and even i remember that performance.

[@imanironman4734]

That game made me buy merch holy fk what a performance.

[@MeanderingMonkey]

2018 Iem katowice map 5. He got 2 aces, one 2v5 and another one at 14-15 in a 1v2 to keep fnatic in the game

[@TestTubeBaba]

My favourite series and especially the final map. Fnatic vs FaZe IEM KATOWICE 2018 Finals.

[@illastration1]

The bigger the game, the colder Flusha's blood. The guy played like a beast on the big stage.

[@yup9715]

Kind of disgusting hes still seen as a legendary player when he was the most blatant cheater in his prime

[@naveengta]

2:58 magisk has 4 majors (one with Vitality)

[@off-courseroaming1809]

pfff facts... not easy to make a point if you use real facts xD

[@CLR438]

I think the most obvious Flusha triggerbot clip is the one in Cache against Team EnVyUs in Dreamhack 2015. Look it up, it's absolutely ridiculous.

[@hiimroo3120]

I loved the old fnatic roster. Krimz and flusha were my two favourites, I absolutely love the consistency krimz has brought over the years the dude just plays his turret roles and stays with in tier 2 when his old fnatic teammates and goats like forest and neo cannot even get into tier 3 teams. But man flusha was just always so entertaining to watch, you could just see his brain whirring when it was chaotic mid round, he always seemed to have the read. The train game other people already mentioned will always be a csgo match I will never forget.

[@jeloneq7]

I really appreciate 2014-2018 CS:GO Level was crazy high. I miss these country-based line-ups, they were hype. Only FaZe was international novelty and mousesports at top level.

[@danzoeee]

flusha during his prime years was just built different when it came to impossible clutches

[@niklas5547]

my most iconic flusha moment is a 5K he got on train in some tournament. dont remember what tourney

[@aleksandartomasevic3253]

I miss fnatic 2015.. also Gambit in League,ROX Tigers and g2 2019. Nowadays picking a team to cheer for seems impossible cuz they change roster every 3 months and players are either as charismatic as cucumber or cant show it cuz afraid of getting cancelled

[@gesture6786]

i love these Who is x? videos

[@B_Tannen]

Cool video. It would be great to hear more about old names since we’re moving to CS2.

[@evolvedHE]

I love these videos Thorin. Keep it up!

[@doliniplanini2260]

best toggler of all time

[@FaithfulFumoFan23]

The man with the best gaming chair in the world!

[@oppenz3723]

Imagine being so good, people and your competitors still accuse you of using cheat after winning major. Multiple times. Not only that, he's the one responsible for setting up Brazilian CSGO for his donation to fallen's team. The man is stuff of legend.

[@FailMachineInc]

best mouse lifter

[@epicro9470]

Flusha was a brainiac he is the reason I felt inlove with CS. Prime Flusha was able to destroy everything and everyone extremely underrated by *upid youngsters.

[@cursive187]

Thoorin looks like my Grandma. However, his opinions on Flusha are better than her's.

[@epicro9470]

His stats and MVPs he did while he was in a insanely talented team and thats impressive af

[@sn1pe34]

Flusha glock monster pushes on ecos cracked me up.

[@kubi368]

Do olofmeister video !!!

[@Julianio]

the king of burgers, some even call him burger king

[@DREAMWORKERSKY]

Mr VAC himself

[@isaibong4477]

When the soft cheats first came out they were subtle and near impossible to detect. Flusha was amazing and won majors legit but honestly I think he used them on the come up.

[@Evan2768]

Cheats only become more subtle and harder to detect over time. This comment makes no sense

[@isaibong4477]

@@Evan2768 2014 was exactly when the first 'new gen' soft hacks came out. idiot

[@isaibong4477]

yes i'm sure@@3jesus3christ3

[@m1lkbags]

Flusha is the smartest player to play csgo. Change my mind. Also 2014-17 was peak cs.

[@Zach-bt2ky]

Flusha or Xyp.

[@Chexsum]

rofl thorin avatar

[@TommyScott-g1p]

id wager he cheated too

[@GantXP]

Flusha definitely cheated. There's no way it was just a meme.

[@neues3691]

I am convinced he cheated.

[@chypres89]

100% was a cheater.

[@dainluke]

Yeah flusha was probably cheating. During that period many players were getting banned, and that famous list was leaked that everyone seemed to denounce as a hoax. I think many of those Dan M clips have credence, particularly with regards to those between 2013 and 2015. Before contracts became mega, the incentive to cheat was very high. Once players started earning mad money, the risk of losing your contract and potentially being sued by the org (I'm guessing there were clauses added), outweighed the benefits.

[@Mykulveli]

There was a lot of people doing the same aimlock like you said. I have absolutely no clue why everyone brings up money or "too much being on the line". The only reason cheating either stopped or changed is people noticing and talking about it. There's absolutely no logic in prizes changing how likely someone cheated is.

[@dainluke]

@@Mykulveli If you're getting paid $10000-20000 p.m. just to show up to practice vs $500-1500 which was the standard in like 2013-2014, it's definitely a major difference. Especially if the org included clauses, which they almost certainly did. Point-in-case, there's 0 cheating in CDL Call of Duty, but in random amateur scenes across the globe, at least 20-30% of amateur players are cheating. It's even more prevalent in Warzone, especially amongst unsigned casual semi-pro gamers. Reason being that those amateur players and Warzone players have absolutely nothing to lose. There's effectively no consequence, even if you win prize money. The same used to go for pro CS.

[@Evan2768]

@@dainluke you’re right, except that “pro” warzone players also cheat. That game is infested all the way to the top. Look at Biffle, Zlaner, Aydan, too many to count.

[@dainluke]

@@Evan2768 I mean it really depends how you want to define a pro. I don't really know what pro means in reference to WZ because they don't ever seem to monitor anyone or follow up on allegations. Regardless, with the current pro CDL and CS leagues, there is 0 cheating. This obviously doesn't exclude amateur, semi-pro and low-level pro play.

[@Evan2768]

I’ve played and watched a LOT of FPS games. Gun to my head, I say Flusha cheated in multiple LAN tourneys. It rubs me the wrong way to see his career celebrated. Think of all the GOATed players that don’t have 10% of Flusha’s sus clips…

[@alexanderandersson2727]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@sirdetmist3204]

If he was cheating he would not have been able to hold such a good level for so long. It's normal for players to have a peak year just look at Olof.

[@jonasba2764]

That's a bad argument, a very good player can still use cheats because he wants to be even better. There's no way to conclude flusha did or did not cheat.

[@sirdetmist3204]

@jonasba2764 I highly doubt if he had been cheating he would have been able to function to the same degree without them. By nature you conclude he didn't cheat because you have to prove he did. It's called presumption of innocence and burden of proof.

[@jonasba2764]

@@sirdetmist3204 Like thorin mentioned and a lot of older players have said as well, some cheats like wall hack can actually help develop your gamesense, so that's not really an argument. I'm also not concluding that he cheated, but there's a difference between presuming innocence and definitively concluding innocense.

[@OmnibusDK2]

Really cracked me up that the link to Flusha vs Dignitas starts with "Get rich fast" and it's an HLTV video. God i miss BTN

[@shirakawaszk5814]

Now the 'Who is' series would proceed to be the introduction of great players of csgo to new cs2 players. Great work.

[@marcdemontbron9657]

I love the jw flusha combo. They were like 2 thug nerds just trolling everyone.

[@Chris-sf2lk]

He was using myg0t hacks

[@marcdemontbron9657]

I wish you had told the Mickey mouse comic story again xD

[@Kaimaju_]

Allen Iverson?!?? Flusha was definitely the Kevin McHale to Olofs Larry Bird.

[@domixoxo]

Excited for this one :)

[@MrMatom55]

🔥

[@aimlevel]

Flusha is the real GOAT. I don't care what you think. I'm right and you're all wrong.

[@st2400]

Flusha may not be in the discussion for the best player of all time but I would definitely say he has had some of the best plays of all time. The one that comes to mind is the 2018 Katowice grand final vs Faze where in the 25th round he gets an ace that I would regard as being one of the best demonstrations of game sense.

[@CatnamedMittens]

Flusha is THE big game hunter.

[@sanders2strong]

flusha cheated 100% idc what anyone thinks. they did that breakdown, where like the 3rd and 7th bullet would hs etc. a few other pros were using the same shit.

[@thegoalie5233]

High on copium

[@gesture6786]

You must be a NiP fan

[@6reen6uy]

I won’t lie I was only 14 around 2013 when I got into CS. Fnatic, NiP, Virtus Pro, carried my passion through up until about when FaZe clan bought their way into it. But especially Fnatic with pronax it was great to watch.

[@kanemay19619]

Mr.Vac was a great great player