Why Luke Skywalker's NEW JEDI ORDER Allowed Attachment (LEGENDS)

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@Brandon-yy5cc
@Brandon-yy5cc Жыл бұрын
This is how I always wanted the New Jedi Order to go.
@paulharmon8947
@paulharmon8947 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@aamirrazak3467
@aamirrazak3467 Жыл бұрын
Same and this continuation made a ton of sense. Just another thing the EU got right
@sharonbeckerle8735
@sharonbeckerle8735 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@ms38980
@ms38980 Жыл бұрын
Amen brother.
@ChosenOne-il4bm
@ChosenOne-il4bm 11 ай бұрын
Rey will allow attachments
@ElHombrePalado
@ElHombrePalado Жыл бұрын
This is why I was heartbroken when Luke teaches Grogu to abandon attachment to Mando in the Mandalorian series. It hurt because I know that the REAL Luke has grown so far beyond those ancient tenets!
@Brandon-yy5cc
@Brandon-yy5cc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Disney had to ruin Luke and the entire Skywalker family, to make room for Rey Palpatine. Uhhh. Why do I get the filling their going to have Rey be the one to form this version of the Jedi? 😡😡😡
@jamestolbert1856
@jamestolbert1856 4 ай бұрын
Ok I’ll give that one a pass because Grogu is still a child and the decision should be up to him whether he should stay or go, not Luke. He wasn’t going to train with someone who’s not all in
@seawind930
@seawind930 10 ай бұрын
Obi-wan tells Luke in the Heir to the Empire trilogy "You are not the last Jedi of the old order, you are the first of the new". I like how it was Obi-wan's ghost last message to him, telling him to forge a new path for the Jedi.
@gibbs615
@gibbs615 Жыл бұрын
The way Luke did things at his new Jedi order in the LEGENDS EU timeline was so much better than how Yoda did things in the old one in canon. I know Qui-Gon would've just LOVED it!
@alexmason2659
@alexmason2659 Жыл бұрын
Qui Gon and Anakin both would have loved it tbh Yoda as well and Obi Wan in legends Obi Wan even told Luke he wasn't the last of the old jedi he was the first of the new Yoda and Obi Wan wanted Luke to fix where they have failed
@gibbs615
@gibbs615 Жыл бұрын
@@alexmason2659 Well the old Jedi order really WAS flawed cause they were way too corrupted by the politics of the senate and it was like they didn't even care except for Qui-Gon who did.
@choonbox
@choonbox Жыл бұрын
​@@gibbs615 only in the last few years and because of the careful puppeteering of Sidious and Dooku.
@gibbs615
@gibbs615 Жыл бұрын
@@choonbox Yeah true that but they never should've been connected to the senate in the first place.
@nickm2699
@nickm2699 Жыл бұрын
Love the Jedi under EU Luke, felt more like a natural progression
@NoLongerActive-n4f
@NoLongerActive-n4f Жыл бұрын
Just wish we got to see this in the main universe tho instead of the sequels.
@nickm2699
@nickm2699 Жыл бұрын
@@NoLongerActive-n4f same, thankful for all the great books
@NoLongerActive-n4f
@NoLongerActive-n4f Жыл бұрын
@@nickm2699 Yep.
@aamirrazak3467
@aamirrazak3467 Жыл бұрын
Totally agreed the new Jedi order in the EU made sense as a continuation of the Jedi
@lukedanielgalon1596
@lukedanielgalon1596 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is way better sequel than what we have altogether
@Tyrexthecreaturedesigner
@Tyrexthecreaturedesigner Жыл бұрын
I wish we could have seen this new Jedi order instead of what the sequels provided. This is so interesting!
@devonhinckley2889
@devonhinckley2889 Жыл бұрын
That is definitely a great point. Attachments themselves are supposed to be a driving force in a healthy way because having loved ones to think of actually give a reason to fight and win it, plain and simple. Luke Skywalker's journey itself is a prime example because he has his friends, sister, and wife that actually helped him overcome his challenges, plain and simple. The Jedi of the past failed because their choice to ban attachment drove Anakin to the dark side, therefore, their banning attachments and dogmatic rules got them slaughtered. Luke Skywalker himself is definitely the true Jedi Master everyone needed because he knows what was best to rebuild, therefore, allowing attachments is the right step and that's what helps making him the true Jedi Grand Master.
@TheForgottenMan270
@TheForgottenMan270 Жыл бұрын
It was Luke's attachment he developed for his father that led his father back to the Light Side. And that led to Anakin to finely fulfill his role as the Chosen One to bring balance to the Force by killing Palpatine. But I do understand where the old order was coming from. Attachment unchecked could lead one to the Dark Side. So for them it was easier to avoid attachment rather than deal with it and overcome the frivolous attachments people develop.
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 4 ай бұрын
The old order should teach them how to deal with negative form of attachment if things go wrong one don’t become something worse or fall to the dark side.
@aamirrazak3467
@aamirrazak3467 Жыл бұрын
Always felt this was a great continuation of the Jedi order and made a ton of sense as the next step for the Jedi after rotj
@chaoticdemise4494
@chaoticdemise4494 Жыл бұрын
And that my fellow jedi friends, is a great and wise leader. Luke was truly the jedi everyone needed. Love can become difficult for some, but it has such great passion, protection, and happiness . These positive feelings can greatly influence the jedi order and also show the galaxies citizens that these jedi are much more friendlier and more protective rather than relying on politics and stealing kids.
@kellyl7688
@kellyl7688 Жыл бұрын
Now this is the REAL Luke Skywalker! The other “cannon” dude is Jake Skywalker! #euforthewin
@MataNui.
@MataNui. Жыл бұрын
Honestly this seems like a better order than what preceded it. Especially since not letting kids see their parents is how you get another Darth Vader.
@Facade953
@Facade953 Жыл бұрын
The idea of Jedi getting married is ideal for the creation of Force Dynasties. The best way to ensure the survival and evolution of the order.
@anthonyp6896
@anthonyp6896 Жыл бұрын
This is the Luke Skywalker I wanted to see in the sequel trilogy
@PhantomRedKnight
@PhantomRedKnight Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who agrees with my philosophy.
@ConnerVain
@ConnerVain Жыл бұрын
Luke's improved Jedi order would've prevented the new Republic's destruction.
@magicbookofhorror3564
@magicbookofhorror3564 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video is a new subscriber I like the new Jedi order that Luke started. I think it’s much better than the old Jedi order because I think I would feel the same if I had to forget my family and friends and I think that is so crazy if I was to be in a Jedi order, I think I would rather be with Luke’s Jedi order because there is more freedom, especially being able to contact your family if you still wish to end that is what I like about Luke’s Jedi order especially where you could have a family of your own and make the Jedi order grow. I think that is a better idea than the old ways of the Jedi order that was established so long ago.
@kbleezy7043
@kbleezy7043 Жыл бұрын
Luke In front of all his new students - "We're all going to get laid!!!"
@chevyhero5365
@chevyhero5365 Жыл бұрын
EU Luke will always be canon to me.
@tjcarr8097
@tjcarr8097 Жыл бұрын
I think another big part of his journey that gets looked over quite a bit is the fact that he was raised by two loving parents! Yes, he tends to have a lot of his father’s traits. I even see his mother’s when he confronts his father on Endor. But! You can see a fundamental difference in how Anakin was raised without a father and Luke was
@FabledHeroes3351
@FabledHeroes3351 Жыл бұрын
Sigh 😔 if only Disney had the balls to go with this
@MatthewK122
@MatthewK122 Жыл бұрын
Shame Disney didn’t go this route
@zzzzppppooooo
@zzzzppppooooo Жыл бұрын
It never made sense for me that luke fell to the dark, even in the legends continuity. Kinda destroys the significance of the events of episode 5 and 6 and him already dealing with the pull towards darkness. He literally tapped into the dark side due to his attachments for his sisters and vader taking advantage of it just for him to again be reminded of the power of the dark side later on? Even before Disney i believed it to be inconstant for him to outright fall.
@RetneysHolocron
@RetneysHolocron Жыл бұрын
I agree. I'm not a fan of Dark Empire, but unfortunately its part of the Expanded Universe continuity and its referenced several times in the Jedi Academy trilogy 🤦‍♂️
@shadowstorm6458
@shadowstorm6458 Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s not as if he fell out of evil or rage like he almost did in ep 6. He faked turning to the dark side in order to infiltrate Palpatine’s plans, but only ended up falling because it became impossible to put on a believable charade without actually turning. At least when he turned in DE he didn’t commit any character assassination acts like in TLJ.
@anessamer
@anessamer Жыл бұрын
Mr. Holocorn can I ask you something? Is the Force the Star Wars equivalent of God the creator the master of the universe?
@ICETONIC95
@ICETONIC95 Жыл бұрын
I would love longer content. If we could get 30 min deep dives into legends content, I would love it
@RetneysHolocron
@RetneysHolocron Жыл бұрын
That’s a goal of mine. Right now I’m just working on consistent uploads and quality content. I just started doing KZbin full-time this month
@ICETONIC95
@ICETONIC95 Жыл бұрын
fantastic. I will keep watching
@GoatsOnABoat-rt1wz
@GoatsOnABoat-rt1wz Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Jedi not allowing attachments was always pretty dumb and never really made sense. It seemed like it was only established to make up a reason for Anakin to turn to the dark side.
@devonhinckley2889
@devonhinckley2889 Жыл бұрын
I agree. To ban attachment is a bad choice that is gonna get thousands killed. That's why a lot of Jedi die this way and that's why it was so easy for Palpatine to swoop in and slaughter an entire generation of the past Jedi, all he had to do is get rid of Qui Gon Jinn and have their dogmatic rules drive Anakin to his hands, and it's game over
@rjtheripper931
@rjtheripper931 Жыл бұрын
Depriving someone of their feelings is really dangerous.
@JohnnyCadeLover
@JohnnyCadeLover Жыл бұрын
Can they just make a Star Wars movie about R2D2’s perspective through the first 6 movies? I would love to see that!
@joshuadesautels
@joshuadesautels 5 ай бұрын
"The needs of the many...outweigh..." "The needs of the few." "Or the one."
@yusrashah1173
@yusrashah1173 Жыл бұрын
new jedi order slays
@trentmonaghan179
@trentmonaghan179 Жыл бұрын
There was a resurrected Palpatine in the book Legends, and Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams didn't make that crap up?
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 4 ай бұрын
Adding attachments in Luke Jedi order is a smart move to be closer to galactic community show the Jedi can be evolved.
@maksymilianziele28
@maksymilianziele28 3 ай бұрын
To know how attachments in Luke's new order also messed things up, read: TV TROPES Legacy of the Force Fridge
@mattwho81
@mattwho81 5 ай бұрын
Luke’s New Jedi order is much closer to their original credo. Long before Yoda there were entire Jedi families. It was the Clone wars era Jedi who had strayed from the teachings. Rather than mastering their emotions they simply stopped feeling at all.
@greechiogaming
@greechiogaming Жыл бұрын
Not related but its so many blanks need to be filled in and can be connected with the whole sar wars storyline
@dochi1518
@dochi1518 Жыл бұрын
canon
@RetneysHolocron
@RetneysHolocron Жыл бұрын
This is from Legends
@TexasHockeyClub
@TexasHockeyClub Жыл бұрын
Well it's Canon to me dammit! From my point of view Disney star wars is garbage.
@isaiah55989
@isaiah55989 Жыл бұрын
​@@TexasHockeyClubyeah,disney is garbage but watch the profanity
@ImRichYourPoor
@ImRichYourPoor Жыл бұрын
And thats why his order had more fallen Jedi than the entire 1000 year HISTORY of the prequels. Because attachments are stupid for walking weapons of mass destruction force users. Fear leads to the darkside. What happens when a jedi has a child? Every parent fears losing their child
@denissmith7671
@denissmith7671 Жыл бұрын
Except Ki Adi Mundi ☠️
@greechiogaming
@greechiogaming Жыл бұрын
Still dont get why Disney get so much bash and hate
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 Жыл бұрын
Because Disney botched things up not understanding what people loved about Star Wars in the first place.
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 Жыл бұрын
​@@mazkeraid4039 Kathleen DOES Know, but She does not like seeing a Man the Restore the Jedi Order.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 Жыл бұрын
@@conradojavier7547 Oh duh, what else is new? Honestly, why hasn’t Bob Iger just fire her and step down for someone who actually gave a demn about the audience?
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 Жыл бұрын
​@@mazkeraid4039 even if Iger Fires Her, They'll accuse him for Sexism, like seeing Ms. Marvel's Corpse in a Spider-Man Comic.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 Жыл бұрын
@@conradojavier7547 Let him be accused, he’ll just bite back and tell anyone that it matters little.
@andreasschaeflein4233
@andreasschaeflein4233 Жыл бұрын
As much as I personally like the idea I know if George made his sequel trilogy he wouldn't allow it since he was on record saying he didn't want Luke to be with Mara Jade. Kind of a tough pill to swallow
@ImRichYourPoor
@ImRichYourPoor Жыл бұрын
Yep Lucas HATED the idea of Luke being married
@gilian2587
@gilian2587 Жыл бұрын
Lucas is, in my opinion, an outstanding producer and simultaneously a terrible writer.
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