Retribution vs Farragut

[@foxandroses]

1: Farragut doesn't have shields 2: Retribution has a huge railgun on the nose

[@anarchyandempires5452]

They do, canonically they only use shields when it's a life or death fight since activating them would require their Capital Type Warp drive to be disabled and for the battle to be recorded. Basically every time you see a pair of Capitals fighting each other politically it's considered Either a Training exercise, or a joint anti piracy expedition, that's why you never see a capital actually getting destroyed, well except for tarrgoids but Fu*** the xeno bastards.

[@foxandroses]

@@anarchyandempires5452 Link me to where in "cannon" this is true

[@Cooldude-ko7ps]

@@anarchyandempires5452 why would activating the shields require the FSD to be turned off and for the fight to be recorded?

[@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75]

@@Cooldude-ko7ps If it was true, I know in Canon that the capital class unit is pretty barebones compared to the reversed engineered thargoid fsd modern ships use. Also the ftl unit probably generates a lot of heat which is probably why the capital ships lack shields. I don't know about the recording of battle, which makes no sense.

[@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75]

Yes but the Retributions railgun pretty much becomes useless since the farragut is made for broadside engagements, and not direct engagements. I would say the Majestic would be a more fair fight because they are both made for direct engagements.

[@Storm_Maron]

It would be harder to scale who’d win since the fighters and Corvettes of the Federation can be greatly modified and changed out its weapons and equipment

[@Storm_Maron]

Not to mention also that the Fed is escorted by a much larger fleet for each Battlecruiser with Vultures, gunships and Elite Anacondas

[@keplerthe3399]

Really cool, liked & subbed!

[@FirstPassOfficial]

Thank you, its much appreciated!

[@benjamin1089]

I know I'm late but to give off one more point. The Farragut battleship in law and in expanded universe books can do short range FTL jumps and then appear at the broadside of the Retribution regardless of orientation, from the Farragut's perspective it would be going strait as in enters witch space (an alternate dimension) and then exits back into real space. Keeping in mind this can only take a 10-30 seconds. This is just a long way of saying that because this is how ED capital ships (should) fight, these engagements bole down to close range fights of slugging it out. At this point it would be case of who has stronger defence (Retribution) and better close range fire power (Farragut). I think this would create a more even fight.

[@anarchyandempires5452]

I don't think you were fair to those corvettes, each of the bastards carries a pair of capital ship grade weapons after all, but considering there are 2 dreadnoughts in SC and several dozen Battle cruisers in Elite I'd say I'm actually surprised by how hard they hit.

[@Donimachi]

Plus corvettes can carry fighters... I also feel like he's forgetting that elite ships can't take damage until the shields go offline.

[@Cooldude-ko7ps]

@@Donimachi yeah. Though some damage potentially can bleed through the shields.

[@Donimachi]

@@Cooldude-ko7ps true but in those instances the shields are either very low borderline down or the enemies are using phasing sequence lassers.

[@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75]

@@Donimachi I forgot don't railguns phase through shields or do they cause impulse effects?

[@colinljungaro]

Awsome video. Should do one on the kraken star citizen.

[@redrumcoke2363]

That music sounds very familiar. Is it from Total Annihilation or Supreme Commander by chance?

[@FirstPassOfficial]

Supreme Commander soundtrack actually, good ear!

[@redrumcoke2363]

@@FirstPassOfficial Haha thanks bud. Been playing Supreme Commander Forged Alliancd again recently. My favorite RTS!

[@FirstPassOfficial]

Forged Alliance is my number one RTS of all time too! Cybran Nation all the way!

[@redrumcoke2363]

@@FirstPassOfficial if you haven't already I highly suggest you install the LOUD mod. A reworked and far more competitive AI, loads of high-quality fan made units and about ten other mods you can switch on or off that are pretty cool as well. Totally awesome.

[@Phoenix-214]

Sounds like "Risk, Relief, and Victory" from the Supcom OST, a track Spacedock is also fond of using in their videos. And yes, the Cybrans were the only faction with a goal which amounted to "Leave us alone and we'll leave you alone."

[@carlthorntonjr6180]

I need 2 retribution s please.

[@raurau6369]

sweet

[@FullMetalFox2]

That's not how Farragut's fight, they are literally broadside monsters dropping in at ideal firing positions. I believe in the books they could even do micro FTL jumps every few minutes. And they never drop in first, most likely part of its Corvette and Dropship escort would have jumped it, transmit telemetry, and then the Farragut would have exited Witchspace right beside the Retribution and start hammering it with its whole broadside arsenal. Also of note, we are comparing universes where one ship uses sophisticated AI-controlled turrets, while the other one mostly uses man-controlled turrets, I question how well those man-controlled turrets could intercept 48 missiles (Farragut spots 4 Torpedos batteries per side, each battery has 12 launch tubes).

[@Odeezee]

Star Citizen also has AI controlled turrets, so...

[@TheSilverwolf1001]

I mean your also forget that a mantis has a 20km jump dampener which will basically make ALL jumps useless.

[@Cooldude-ko7ps]

@@TheSilverwolf1001 yes but will these jump dampeners affect a different type of FTL?

[@TheSilverwolf1001]

@@Cooldude-ko7ps If not effect it would seriously hinder an E:D ship and making the ship still able to jump but be massively off calculations. In lore in star citizen each race have different FTL so to say, "No it wouldn't effect an elite dangerous ship" is frankly disingenuous. The question should be to what extent would it effect it.

[@Donimachi]

@@TheSilverwolf1001 to be fair though elite dangerous ships can only be disrupted through mass there isn't a way to stop them from jumping only slowing it down.

[@ravenknight4876]

Retribution is just disappointing looking.

[@SirAroace]

it is unfinished

[@Odeezee]

i think it's pretty fuckin' dope!