Retro Ups & Downs From WWE Survivor Series 1997

You voted for it so here is Simon with our WWE Survivor Series 1997 review including the infamous Montreal Screwjob between Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart, The Rock and Ken Shamrock in a traditional Survivor Series elimination match, Kane's first match in WWE against Mankind and much more.
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[@Reacher85]

Suggestion for the next Retro Ups and Downs: WWE Survivor Series 1990 (The Debut of The Undertaker) 30 years of the Deadman. Let's get one on the board especially Survivor Series is coming up on November 22nd

[@derrickhaggard]

Agreed and here's hoping it wins.

[@stevenwillie7667]

Agree, hope it wins

[@FSM_Inferno]

Agree

[@acommonmanwithrandomwords8373]

I see over 80 likes. This should about do it...

[@mrkipling2201]

Totally agree with you. Let’s hope that’s the next episode.

[@MAni04me]

Next Retro. Lucha Underground Ultima Lucha (1) come on guys I want to see him react to Pentagon vs Vampiro in that brutal match.

[@shoutoutmymucus2776]

That would be amazing

[@WhatCultureWrestling]

Don't blame us, you voted for it! Thanks for watching though and get your suggestions for next weeks video in the comments. Most suggested/liked options go into the poll on Tuesday.

[@angelow2562]

It is what it is.🗿

[@RaghavanN]

Survivor Series 1990-30 years of "The Deadman".This should win this time.

[@nalenation9882]

Let's do Backlash 2001

[@jordanyaros4056]

smackdown. Dce 28 2000

[@vedantmanjrekar1246]

Barely legal. 1997 first ever ecw pay per view please I want to see ecw on ups ands downs

[@OmarAli-gp3yl]

I guess simon was so upset that he forgot to recall the dave meltzer star ratings 😂😂 Also I wanna see ECW one night stand 2006 next 💝

[@some1killmeplease]

He also forgot to mention that a member of The Truth Commission is now known as Don Callis.

[@TheNemisisx]

"I once saw Bradshaw" "Aww good for you" I laughed harder to that part than I should have hahahaha

[@calvinalston685]

Same. I was in tears 😭

[@Ssjangel3]

Same here 😂

[@RandallWI]

Me too 😂😂😂

[@monkeybone1080]

That passion for Kane got an up from me. You even mentioned the head tilt which I always loved. Great stuff.

[@robt4390]

“Let’s never talk about Survivor Series ‘97 again.” Very best of luck with that. ✌🏻

[@joshuamcguire4498]

I’ll keep suggesting it until I die. “TNA Unbreakable, 2005” only 5 star TNA match.

[@dionetherington1919]

I keep asking for the same! We will get it one day! We need to convince that bald asshole somehow.

[@Disxreet]

@@dionetherington1919 damn boss, thats pretty harsh

[@JackieTheBold]

I'm still pushing for nWo Souled Out. I just really wanna see how much nWo Simon can actually take 😂

[@tempestfennac9687]

And you probably think he should have to suffer through the Ms. nWo contest. :P

[@philipdavies5195]

ECW Living Dangerously 1999 RVD V Jerry Lynn in one of the best matches of all time.

[@HotRod8625]

Why not?

[@hypesavage8134]

@Poopy Plops cuz ur mom

[@TheOnemanmoshpit]

YEEEESSSS!!!!

[@TJDylan]

Suggestion for Retro Ups and Downs: Survivor Series 1998 Deadly Games

[@Mxyz]

Yes

[@drvl7n]

that theme song....jesus christ that's the worst PPV song ever

[@danielsmith7084]

How about and ups and downs of The Undertakers entire career? That would be awesome! Nice and detailed

[@jeffbanks5103]

Suggestion: Clash of Champions 1 Sting vs. Flair. Simon's a big Sting fan and it would be a great episode

[@alejandrodiazfrancia1562]

WrestleMania 20, I really love the ending picture of Eddie and Chris celebrating together

[@robgable2426]

Best ever!!! I miss them both so damn much!!!

[@FrostWazowski]

To this day Chris Benoit is easily the greatest technical wrestler in the history of professional wrestling. The fact that he is erased from history because of brain damage is an absolute sham and Vince should be ashamed of himself. Snuka beat his girlfriend to death in the 80s, Vince paid to make it go away, and Snuka is a hall of famer after the fact. Need I say more?

[@emmanuelmoses7249]

@@FrostWazowski Easy to say from your position..If you're Vince, it would be wise to distance yourself from a man that killed his own family.. Plus, it's not like Benoit's matches aren't still posted all over WWE Network anyway. They just don't publicly acknowledge him, for good reason.

[@FrostWazowski]

@@emmanuelmoses7249 it didn't start that way though. For YEARS there was no Benoit mention at all anywhere, even on the network. They should at minimum mention him in passing when they list off things like the dudes who won the rumble from #1. They say two men but only say Shawn when they could say "Chris Benoit and Shawn Michaels" ... You can mention him and move to the bigger star to just kinda gloss over him at the same time.

[@AdubsMMA]

A drug abuser and a murderer..... Yep. Sounds like a hero in 2020. 🙄

[@cpaton1996]

The Raw episode with the Kate Vick segment just cause we love Simon

[@charlescassis]

I think that I'd be cool if you did ups and downs for Armageddon 2008 (Jeff hardy vs HHH vs Edge)

[@dionetherington1919]

TNA Unbreakable 2005. Give it to us!!

[@jamesgray8542]

Dion Etherington joined a queue in universal and ended up at unbreakable 2005,great night and met the Dudley boys backstage

[@dionetherington1919]

@@jamesgray8542 I met them at an expo in London the same year. Had to drop 30 to meet them.

[@samemtp]

Starrcade 83

[@vedantmanjrekar1246]

Nice choice

[@finchlikeseve6]

Hey Kurrigan did end up fighting Robert Downey Jr in Sherlock Holmes that deserves an up

[@jbj7599]

Simon messed with ya, its Kurrgan.

[@Bownzinho]

“This was absolute shite” had me in stitches

[@Hawkeye26]

4:00 With it being the 15th anniversary of Eddie's passing, this would indeed be a great match to revisit on this day.

[@Hawkeye26]

@Everyday Heroes Unlike some, he tried hard to clean up his act. You've never done drugs, smoked, or drank alcohol? "Straight Edge" CM Punk would love ya!

[@Hawkeye26]

@Everyday Heroes Does that mean you don't consider the loss of: Heath Ledger, Brittany Murphy, Janis Joplin, Chris Farley, Jimi Hendrix, John Belushi, or other wrestlers like Miss Elizabeth, Sherri Martel, Curt Hennig, Chyna, Test, Axl Rotten, Bam Bam Bigelow, or Luna Vachon to be worthy of remembrance? Do you also believe that soldiers who die in battle bring it upon themselves because they became soldiers?

[@shawn4585]

I second that

[@only1icon1801]

23:10 mate 🤣🤣🤣🤣 proper funny and you are right about Owen Hart's theme, criminally underrated

[@frankhoward6645]

This event was history making yrs later we are still talking about it today glad we finally have retro ups and downs Survivor Series 97

[@mediumsizeddeal]

Starrcade 85. A real retro PPV and an incredible show!

[@edgecrusher018]

I’d love to see some classic Starrcade reviews, but the week before taker 30 has to be survivor series 1990 (which was also easily my favorite PPV as a kid).

[@gaurangpatankar164]

Give Simon an Oscar Best actor ever

[@elmstreetfan1633]

Don't blame me, i voted for badd blood

[@jpar73]

Suggestion for next retro ups and downs: Superclash 3 (Kerry Von Erich vs Jerry Lawler)

[@bigdawgadventures2552]

Simon we are huge fans over here at Baseball, Bobbleheads & Brews! loved the 97' survivor series. I hope one day to be on your level once i build up my brand. Cheers!

[@peterbrown5165]

Simon you are just awesome. You never bore me with any of your video's. I spend every sunday just watching your video's. I would love to meet you. You are an idol to me. From petey from scotland

[@MajinTar]

Haven’t watch Whatculture in a few years I remember everyone hated Simon 😂

[@thedoctor3528]

Now he's the only fan favorite lol. These are the same dumb people that hated Simon just because he wasn't adam

[@splash8429]

Now he is probably the only one people watch. I know I do

[@Just_Jervis]

WWE: Raw, January 4, 2010 if you know you know

[@RafaelSantos-di5yw]

I know, & I get the suggestion after this episode

[@ba_playz262]

That was a great reference

[@JVreemer]

Thank you Simon. We love your perspective on these events. God bless and if you ever find yourself in Boston I got free beer for you 1000%.

[@markmccallum475]

This was the first night of the mr mcmahon character. He hasn't done commentary since then.

[@similarart1074]

Have we done Hell on a cell, taker vs mankind yet? If not vote up please!!!!

[@mastermk7]

Road dogg speaking truth and look at the signs in the crowd say the same thing 🤣🤣🤣

[@Lifeskillsish]

Great analysis. I first saw this PPV in 2000 when the local video store got it for a rental. I knew about it, but there was no way my parents would buy PPV for me. Anyway Id already seen wrestling with shadows so I knew all about it. I'm canadian, but I was always an HBK fan. What I really came to say was, where is the Hollywood movie about the screwjob? Lets see a drama about Bret and Shawn breaking into the business, finally moving up to main event status after the old guys leave due to steriod scandal. The friendship fractures due to jealousy and the screwjob is the climax of the movie.

[@bury_the_elite65294]

There's a "Dark Side Of The Ring" doco on the Montreal Screwjob, if you haven't seen it. It's on YT. Definitely worth checking out. And also on his doco, "The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be", Bret gives his point of view about the MSJ.

[@benmills4358]

Let's try one more time Survivor Series 1990 debut of The Undertaker

[@AwkwardAutognome]

Heroes of Wrestling. I want to see Simon not being a positive Pete.

[@vedantmanjrekar1246]

You want to see a alcoholic man remove his clothes go watch porn that's the worst show in pro wrestling it will be torture for all whatculture fans and simon

[@vedantmanjrekar1246]

16 likes for the worst show I dare those 16 people to watch that show 16 times you are inhuman

[@lilshreck]

Dont do it

[@nicholaschristie8699]

Hard to believe that Ken Shamrock can still wrestle while he is in his 50's! Plus, actually looking in better shape than when he was young.

[@kevinbush3885]

WCW Hog Wild 96

[@disgruntledblogger]

Hidden gem: Lawler clocks on what's going down when he sees HBK put Hitman in the Sharpshooter

[@enigmatic1gaming768]

I got both Bret and HBK to sign the epic pic when Bret was just about to reverse the Sharpshooter.

[@garrymclaughlan6433]

This event is so infamous no one knows what else happened at this event apart from the screw job. Everything else is irrelevant about this event.

[@petercollington1937]

26th March 2001. The day the war ended.

[@Soopaspud]

I met Kurgen after his time in the Oddities. Hes a great dude. Really tall

[@Trippette]

WCW Nitro and WWF Raw 26th March 2001 - double ups and downs for a night no one expected

[@GeekBen]

WCW Spring Stampede 1997 DDP vs The Macho Man Randy Savage! That was the hottest feud in any company in 1997.

[@andrewsilcox2084]

I didn't expect Simon to swear st the beginning. It's warranted just took me by surprise.

[@rickharmon7652]

In these earlier shows there should always be an automatic up simply for the fact Michael Cole isn't on commentary.

[@SnackmanPanda]

Yup i hate Michael Cole

[@a.freeland179]

ECW Massacre on 34th street Dec.2000

[@brianbradley1509]

This is my 4th 'retro ups and downs', I'm now here just in the hopes Simon says 'tum tum'

[@DValedof]

Bret did not want to lose to Shawn ... he offered to put over the Brooklyn Brawler ... Bret’s story has not changed in 23 years.

[@Rocket1377]

Correction: he didn't want to lose to Shawn on ppv in Canada. He said he would have dropped the belt to him on Raw.

[@bulumko2454]

Suggestion for the next Retro Ups and Downs: Wrestlemania 30. The wrestlemania that Daniel Bryan won the WWE Championship at

[@Very_Stupid]

Good choice.

[@Very_Stupid]

I'm sure Lesnar breaking 'Taker's streak will earn a down.

[@ashwinirabidas9080]

That's not retro

[@mistahss9612]

You gotta do The Undertaker’s debut. It was one of the only pay per view’s I seen as a kid. I had it recorded lol. Watched it over and over.

[@uglyhobo4602]

That's just wrong how McMahon did that to Brett Hart. Shawn Michaels said he was not involved. Yeah right! Boycott WWE and watch AEW. Who's with me?

[@justinfitzgerald9190]

Suggestion for next retro ups and downs - WCW World War 3. A different time in wrestling and fun(ny) to look back at it.

[@dbone3356]

Now I wanna know what Road Dogg said in that promo.

[@Nobody-bp5wh]

He makes a bunch of gay jokes. Calls the Blackjacks “steers and queers” and then calls them the “Blacktracks" and the Headbangers the "butt-bangers”. Then the crowd chants "faggot" at Billy Gunn the first time he tags in. Lovely time, the '90s.

[@dbone3356]

@@Nobody-bp5wh Yeah. Not everything was peaches and cream during the greatest Era in wrestling.

[@58632hhhh]

I would like to see Wrestlemania 20 being reviewed by Simon. It's my all time favorite one. So many things happened in that event, I don't think there was one bad match. Particularly the main event, I loved the finish where Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit are hugging in the ring with their world titles. Come on people! We can do this.

[@ActionTalk1]

Even Simon questions people's votes on these RETRO Ups and Down. I'm not the only one.

[@rc4178]

' Just to bring you up to speed, this was absolute shite' : Simon Miller 13/11/2020 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nicolashebert9804]

I was at the Molson Centre that night (Now the Bell Centre) in Montreal. That was the first time the WWF make a TV show in Montreal. The crowd was crazy! They did many others TV shows in Montreal since then and I think the best one was the RAW after Wrestlemania X-8 with the 10 minutes ovation to Hulk Hogan. That's the night Brock Lesnar debut too, but nobody in the crowd know who was that guy lol. So not much of reaction on that.

[@cyrus2546]

What was the reaction of the crowd after the finish of the Bret Hart match? Did people think it was part of the show?

[@x05alive]

The Montreal Screw Job : Pro-wrestling Sublime : Alternative Radio

[@zachgoddard6445]

Survivor Series 2005: The Best Version of Smackdown vs Raw for that event

[@Eminem200183]

Let’s try again: Survivor Series ‘90(Undertaker’s Debut)

[@TheHive616]

That would have been amazing if the Tagline had actually been THE MONTREAL SCREWJOB... Brett's like "hmmmmm"

[@chadwcmichael]

Suggestion for the next Retro Ups and Downs... The Katie Vick Raw. 😈

[@KalEL224]

Man i wish i knew these were a thing a year ago lol. Would love to see him up and down WM XIV

[@derrickhaggard]

Suggestion for the next Retro Up and Downs. WWE Survivor Series 90 aka The Debut of the Undertaker besides the fact Survivor Series this year is on November 22, it'd also be a good way to celebrate 30 years of the Undertaker by taking a look at the PPV where he made his in-ring debut.

[@mtheman8309]

TNA Victory Road 2009. That's the comment.

[@raymac5235]

I LOVED the Oddities!

[@michaelward5370]

I wish WWE would go back to the original concept of Survivor Series!! The first one I ever saw was the 1990 Undertaker debut, and I absolutely loved the 4 on 4 elimination matches!! It's such a pity that they do the brand versus brand nowadays, I much preferred the variety of the teams back in the 1990s!!!

[@7654x]

87 was the first one I was happy to witness, 5 Vs 5. Action packed 4 matches, same with 88!

[@michaelward5370]

@@7654x, I remember watching the 1988 Survivor Series on VHS, when I was a teenager!! I hate that changed the concept!!! I loved that you would have the team captains, who usually had a beef, and they would choose others to make up the teams, such as the Ultimate Warriors, which I think was Ultimate Warrior, Legion Of Doom, and somebody else!! Brilliant, I miss that!!!

[@dustinkern5273]

Dude Simon i felt the same way when Ahmed turned he was my favorite as a kid.

[@jordanbierbrauer6485]

Suggestion for Retro Ups and Downs: Royal Rumble 1995

[@Jrowe508]

I would have love 30 years of taker but oh well

[@envoy2500]

Next week works too

[@DarthNater246]

There's 2 more weeks in November, let's vote it in.

[@AxeDharme]

Team USA came out to The Patriot's theme, not Angle's(even though they essentially are the same). I believe Patriot was originally supposed to be part of the team.

[@Clarkarias]

Owen Hart's best theme was "High Energy". I love it when he is introduced as "Bret's stinking rotten brother."

[@antonioscalzo3733]

Wrestlmania 18 triple is amazing have to keep requesting every week till we see Jericho vs the game

[@wstine79]

Wrestlicious. That would make Simon go crazy.

[@TomTalksRubbish]

Survivor series 98 please

[@SkylerB619]

Wrestlemania 20!

[@stylestunner5526]

Yes

[@krish7628]

Wrestlemania 20!

[@morningstar577]

I agree! YES YES YES YES YES

[@alfmtz1080]

Suggestion for retro ups and downs: TNA Victory road 2011

[@vincek6613]

Simon really popping those P's

[@tristandelgado420]

i liked the people's elbow even then, i thought it was silly and it made me laugh everytime, but i liked it

[@andrewsilcox2084]

Next week I think you should put backlash 2007 on the poll. The fetal four-way for the wwe championship was amazing

[@SilverScreenDudes]

Next Retro ups and downs: SUMMERSALM 2000 First ever TLC match, Blackman vs Shane McMahon with the crazy spot where Shane falls like 30 feet, Undertaker vs Kane, Rock Triple H Angle main event (with the Angle kissed Steph storyline)

[@ericmurray3903]

Suggestion for retro ups and downs: Cyber Sunday 2006

[@RaghavanN]

No wonder the crowd at Backlash 2004 booed HBK and went crazy when he submitted to Benoit's sharpshooter.

[@dbone3356]

$10 says Owen's music is now Simon's ringtone.

[@nunyerbizzness93]

Lets switch it up for a week fellas Retro Ups and Downs suggestion: NWA/WCW CHI TOWN RUMBLE 1989: STEAMBOAT VS FLAIR

[@teddylong2590]

Tony khan was interviewed before the big main event !!

[@btipton6899]

😂🤣Playa!

[@donald5670]

So....what did Road Dogg say?

[@r.zaneprice4812]

Just what I was wondering.

[@bladeshad0w284]

I scrolled to ask the same thing.

[@shadormy6350]

Few months late but: He calls the other team "steers and queers". Tells the audience? they'll know what southern justice will feel like and then says "blacktracks and buttbangers, you are done for".

[@Atroz7]

Real talk Owens theme that Simon is referring to sounds like the song Metropolis zone from Sonic 2 was trying to recreate using a 16 bit sound chip.

[@jerryjanik480]

Simon I hope you're having a sunny day

[@christopherblackwell5478]

WrestleMania 2000.

[@TheBeccaboo1975]

Why the hell did we pick this

[@christopherblackwell5478]

I didn't, I honestly voted for WrestleMania 18.

[@vedantmanjrekar1246]

People always want controversy over nice clean ppvs

[@3210-n1x]

Because it's a great ppv unless ur a pc pg current day wrestling fan like Simon and most of whatcultures audience in all fairness..

[@zacharymcknight3305]

7:37, can someone please explain to me what Simon means when he pretends to listen into the headset microphone? Good analysis as always!

[@kryceksangel]

I remember thinking the bell rang because they ran out of time but then I got set straight in AOL chat

[@coreycrank7961]

If you watch the Broken Skull Sessions. Bret talkes about it, and he doesn't blame Earl at all. The only ones that actually know the details are Shawn, and Vince. But give credit where its due, its still one of the most. If not THE most controversial moment in Wrestling history.

[@joepod]

Now do Over The Edge '99! Kane and X-Pac had a heck of a match with D'Lo Brown and Mark Henry.

[@My19812011]

That PPV is kind of only remembered for one thing and a hard one for people to look back on

[@vstarsodyssey]

Survivor series 2003 is my fave of survivor series ppvs & i watched it the other day. So i hope its on next weeks retros ups & downs. While im here, no one won out of that screw job saga however hbk had heat & mcmahon got megaheat which he took advantage and made the attitude era fun to watch so maybe the screwjob was blessing in disguise to help stone cold get over at top guy we know today. Finally simon your a brave man to do these reviews. Could you say ss 1997 is as bad as december to dismember 2006? Otherwise your getting an up for making me chuckle 😁.

[@ryanodonnell6075]

WCW/NWO Road Wild 1998 Main Event: DDP & Jay Leno vs Hulk Hogan & Eric Bischoff