Retro Ups & Downs From WWE WrestleMania 23

Don't blame us, you asked for it! This is our review of WWE WrestleMania 23 as Simon Miller talks about Vince McMahon vs Donald Trump, Shawn Michaels vs John Cena, Batista vs The Undertaker, Mr Kennedy winning Money in the Bank and much more.
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[@WhatCultureWrestling]

Thanks for watching everyone! Get your suggestions for next weeks show in the comments and the ones with the most upvotes will go in to a poll.

[@thebombspayloadisexposed]

Summerslam 2008

[@jordanyaros4056]

Wwf Raw. Dce 25 2000

[@Sammy-is4qt]

Heroes of wrestling

[@tamzidmohsinkhan3333]

Hey WhatCulture what is your reaction that Donald Trump will likely lose

[@dariusman_of_faith8668]

Final Episode of WCW Nitro and Final Episode of WCW Thunder

[@smokea8000]

Suggestion: May 16, 2016 Raw (First ever Ups & Downs Episode so we can see Simon's opinion on it)

[@similarart1074]

I think he should up and down the ups and down as a bonus as well

[@dannancauley6098]

Good idea

[@Hawkeye26]

He DID do a look back as his early beginnings for the 400th episode or whatever it was and really did not enjoy the experience.

[@ProfessorFYew]

Suggestion: Heroes of Wrestling 1999. If ever there were a show full of brown downs...

[@gracianoalvirde1165]

No one deserves to sit through that atrocity.

[@ProfessorFYew]

@@gracianoalvirde1165 Bwahahahaha it's a rite of passage for wrasslin' fans!

[@charlesstebbins7207]

@@ProfessorFYew I thought that WrestleMania 2 was the right of passage. Am I wrong?

[@ProfessorFYew]

@@charlesstebbins7207 Sit through Heroes of Wrestling. It's far more painful. lol

[@ajwhite3758]

Yes

[@Reacher85]

Suggestion: WWE Survivor Series 1997 (Montreal Screwjob incident)

[@slisel033190]

When undertaker returns at a 100 years old. I wanna see him do that MAJESTIC dive.

[@JimmyNotes]

I was one of those 80,000 + people that night! I bought my tickets for that event only days after I got out of the Army.

[@aristidesmacsteel7287]

That is awesome.

[@JimmyNotes]

@@aristidesmacsteel7287 Thank you. It was a major moment for me at that time.

[@maximillianpegasus7721]

@@JimmyNotes Thank you for your service.

[@truediva18]

First, thank you for your service. Second, I hope you are doing well. Lastly, you were there live. What is the live Wrestlemania experience like?

[@JimmyNotes]

@@truediva18 I was way up in the nosebleed seats but it was an amazing experience. I got to see Aretha Franklin sing "America the Beautiful". being able to be there when the Undertaker won the World championship was amazing. Being in the crowd for the Shawn Michaels versus John Cena match was electric. Two of my wrestling heroes, The Undertaker and Shawn Michaels were each in World championship matches. the military was not a very good experience for me at the time, and buying my tickets to this show was one of the first steps towards healing from that experience that I took.

[@K-Dub159]

I simply love how Simon stays true to Mr. Kennedy’s character and doubles up on “Kennedy....Kennedy” every time he says his name lol

[@mtheman8309]

Since Simon gave us one of the most divisive lists in recent memory, I think Simon deserves a PPV to think about that... TNA Victory Road 2009

[@youtubeman3356]

he's already suffered with December to Dismember

[@mtheman8309]

@@youtubeman3356 Not enough apparently!

[@dionetherington1919]

I keep suggesting Unbreakable 2005. That triple threat x division match.

[@kjsmyuigc]

WCW Nitro July 6th 1998, 41,412 in attendance. One of the highest Rated Nitros ever. World Champion Hollywood Hogan vs Undefeated Goldberg.

[@robertgreenwood1446]

MVP was mad underrated. I liked him even when WWE wanted everyone to ‘hate’ him so much. He had so much confidence and the gimmick was great and original. Was sad he didn’t get a bigger push..

[@dhruvtrivedi1335]

Batista vs The Undertaker is THE most surprising match in WrestleMania history. It is absolutely stunning.

[@num1Jaysta]

They had great chemistry

[@chelsea6671]

And to think how much they got done in just 15 minutes it's even more impressive.

[@DJDoubleCee]

I’ll never understand why The Undertaker and Batista match didn’t close out the show. I was hoping for that match to be the main event but instead they put it in the middle of the card.

[@omegaman6494]

It was originally gonna be (Undertaker was Rumble winner after all) but WWE changed their minds due to thinking the match would suck. Boy were they wrong.

[@viktorriquelme3735]

that match at least deserved to be the pre or main event instead to be the 4th on the match card

[@christiella8233]

I actually didn’t mind it being mid card It was a big wake up for me and made me energized for the rest even though I generally didn’t like much of the shape aside for like 3 matches but I know I’m the outsider in situations regarding match order

[@knightsky4438]

@@omegaman6494 true but then again the main event didn't suck either

[@ThunderForce2000]

My guess is because Vince wanted to end the show with the World Championship match with the veteran putting over the younger star rather than the World Championship match with the veteran winning.

[@chantzgnad88]

"and I wish I could ask her (Aretha Franklin) 'wo was your favorite wrestler'...I'm going to say Tyson Tomko" I mean I laugh so loud I am pretty sure my neighbors are going to call the police to report a homicide...made me "all warm in my tum tum" :) :) you are the greatest Mr. Miller and ,as always, I appreciate you!

[@toddzombie8777]

Same that was too funny.. Simon is genuinly a funny guy because it's like he is not even trying to be funny.

[@TheReignofHorror]

Since Survivor series is all about Raw vs Smackdown these days, how about you cover a PPV that existed for that very consept: Bragging Rights 2009.

[@ogomez53og]

I like it when they do retro ups an downs when a Ppv is coming up ex: Doing Halloween havoc wcw last month

[@cdrude6451]

Unforgiven 2006. TLC, Hell in a cell, retirement match. Really good

[@chriskudelka7203]

I was there for Trump vs Rosie O'donnell. We started chanting "Boring" then started chanting "TNA TNA TNA." Hahaha!

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

The Gobbledygooker was more over than that

[@angelow2562]

So my sister overheard the “Out of context wrestling” part of and the video. Looked over at me and said “ What are you watching!?😭......😂💀

[@joyboymugiwara8696]

Ha ha ha 🤣

[@ajwhite3758]

😂😂😂.

[@russellcampbell3500]

LMFAO. So funny.🤣

[@Niac022]

Badd Blood: In Your House - Undertaker vs Shawn in Hell in a Cell, the debut of Kane

[@jeremiah1164]

Shitty ppv outside of the debut

[@RafaelSantos-di5yw]

@@jeremiah1164 Which is why the review is gonna be fun

[@sahal3240]

WrestleMania x8 rock vs hogan

[@thedoctor3528]

Didn't he do that already

[@fredos4323]

He did

[@chrisatkins9195]

No he didn't do 18 yet

[@howie_potterYT]

If WrestleMania X8 makes it into the poll, I'm totally voting for that show

[@ZeroPointAim]

@@chrisatkins9195 pull boo 😀

[@TakerKaneanite619]

This was the start of the streak of incredible Mania matches featuring Undertaker.

[@leegibson18]

Shame we didn't get taker Vs angle at mania 22 otherwise we would of got it from 21 to wrestlemania 30

[@thorfnase_iceman9999]

Suggestion: Bad Blood 1997 (first ever HIAC match and the debut of Kane)

[@discoron77]

Interesting notes about the ECW match and the WWE title match, both of them had even better matches later on. ECW had an elimination match the following Tuesday, then HBK vs. Cena had one of the best Raw main events ever in London. Just as an aside during the ECW match, I was at this show, and can be seen when Tommy Dreamer walks down the stairs! Also, it's not brought up much, but Taker winning against Batista here meant he beat all four members of Evolution at WrestleMania. To keep with the Detroit show theme, and as it is November, I am suggesting Survivor Series 1991 for the next Ups & Downs.

[@chrisatkins9195]

Or Survivor Series 2005 or Vengeance 2002

[@WickamanOrange]

Do Armageddon 2006. Last Ride Match, Inferno Match and a really gruesome Tag-Team-Laddermatch. That PPV was crazy.

[@Whatdahellisthat]

I was at WM23! This brings back some fun memories. I even had a sign that said, "KENNEDY: Yet another Green Bay win in Detroit."

[@bwestacado9643]

Dude that has to be one of the best and creative signs. They should have shown that one on camera. Hilarious

[@thebombspayloadisexposed]

2007 was a fantastic year for Taker. Won the Rumble, had a great match at Mania, and had a great feud with Edge and Batista. The dude was on fire (sorry Kane).

[@PANDA791000]

Being that Wrestlmainia is basically like a season finale, the money in the bank should’ve definitely stayed there, them putting it off a month or 2 throws everything off

[@leegibson18]

They literally had 3 in the year 2010 thanks to making it a ppv a few months after the match happened at mania 26

[@BigStevie]

I WAS THERE!!!!! MUCH LOVE FROM REDFORD, MICHIGAN!!!!!!!

[@lancemullen9567]

I was there too !!!!! But I got so drunk at the hall of fame the night before ..that I was super hungover trying to enjoy the show ...crazy

[@flippineck2825]

"A cactus can can classic" - Simon Miller 2020

[@shangoulbourne4800]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭

[@RaghavanN]

For next week's Retro Ups and Downs please do Survivor Series 1990-Debut of the Deadman or RAW April 23rd 2007-Cena vs Michaels for One Hour.

[@thebombspayloadisexposed]

Aw man, both of those are awesome picks. Cena vs HBK is seriously a ppv quality match on free tv.

[@ShinyHubCaps]

Simon bringing the impressions! Trump, Vince, Booker T, David Attenborough

[@t_hat_f_reaking_g_uy8323]

When Jeff did that leg drop i was the one that started the holy shib chant on my side of the arena

[@shawnbender7923]

Cool

[@aegeanpithiron5009]

New Year's Revolution 2006!

[@swaglad9728]

Trump vs Biden at WrestleMania boom it Vince

[@Asukol]

Would have the same pace as HHH vs Batista at WM 35.

[@KurlzzPlays]

@@Asukol more like taker Goldberg

[@KurlzzPlays]

@Praying Mantis you must have confused Biden with trump getting trump out is how we start to make America great again

[@KurlzzPlays]

Guys my mom is regesterd Republican and she Voted democrat ACROSS THE BOARD that's just sad Biden will build back better

[@brandoncadman9322]

@@KurlzzPlays not saying all biden supporters are pedophiles but I am saying it wasn't a deal breaker... Once its all said and done and all the fake ballots eliminated you'll see trump in a landslide.

[@unkleken]

I hope everyone is doing great and ready for another weekend of amazing wrestling!🔥😭✌🏿

[@ratedrva757]

Hell yeah and full gear should be fucking amazing

[@aguib3607]

same to you man!

[@LBOOGIEDAMANN]

Taker Batista was a true heavyweight championship match. Had to pause this video to go watch it again. I found myself saying DAAAAMN! a lot and rewinding spots half a dozen times in amazement. Thanks for reminding me of how great wrestling was at that time.

[@keeton]

Oh, and the production on the commentary during the mitb match was great, how they slipped between the three brand commentary teams was great, no shouting over each other but they all put their guys over

[@swaggpro17]

I started watching wrestling in 2004 and this was at the height of my WWE nostalgia for me. I swear Wrestlemania 22-25 just hit a lil different for me 🔥🔥🔥

[@michaelwarholak6241]

This was my first ever PPV event, as a Detroiter. My dad took me and my best friend to it, and his jaw dropped on seeing Jeff Hardy jump off that ladder. It was a great night overall. Even the warm up match was good. I don’t remember who they were facing, but seeing Ric Flair and Carlito tag team together on the biggest stage was awesome.

[@nataliswolf]

Michaels vs Cena was a classic. Their Hour long match on raw a few weeks later was also a classic

[@masterofmythology]

If you ever wondered how much Vince is willing to sacrifice for WWE, he elected to have his head shaved on worldwide television.

[@eddykaye8618]

And it was always going to be, since Donald Trump doesn't have the guts to shave his head

[@hazardtriplezero]

Yes, a multi-millionaire cut his hair. Go ask Owen Hart how much he's willing to sacrifice for WWE and you may alter your definition a little. Because guess what? Vince's hair grew back. Owen's still dead.

[@nathansoper8249]

I was at this mania so it really awesome to see a ups and downs on this event! Sure there was some rubbish! But I feel like that main event was very underrated! I wanted HBK to win so bad

[@EricNowWatches]

I'd like to see the June 1, 1998 episode of Monday Nitro where Sting joined nWo Wolfpac

[@3rdPartyOP]

I was actually in tears when you were talking about the ECW match.

[@Gryffindor-ef1zs]

I love this pay per view! It might be because of childhood nostalgia and I own a DVD of it, but still great!

[@ylgotbars4531]

Survivor Series 2017 (AJ vs Brock, Usos vs The Bar 👊🏾, Shield Vs New Day 👏🏾) 🔥🔥🔥

[@billyjames8685]

Please do a *IMPACT* Retro Ups & Downs -- *Sacrifice 2007* (Best of the Year) or *Destination X 2006* (The Only 5Star match in IMPACT ever) or *LOCKDOWN 2005* (The FIRST)

[@40STILLGAMING]

He keeps saying Kennedy, Kennedy. LOL

[@tamzidmohsinkhan3333]

Lol Donald Trump vs Vince Mcmahon is still a 5 star worthy match after all 😂😂😂😂

[@inner5916]

Suggestion: WrestleMania XXX - Daniel Bryan vs. The Authority

[@benoshea6064]

Fully loaded 2000 Triple main event. such an underrated ppv

[@jdr2k11]

Suggestion: WrestleMania 24: The Big Show vs Floyd "$$$“ Mayweather.

[@GameOverAus]

Batista's best match and was the first time I thought Taker's streak would end. Michael working on Cena's leg the whole match and big match John no sold it.

[@jamarieaikens7095]

Anybody else used to rent this PPV dvd at Blockbuster???

[@discoron77]

That was probably one of the last wrestling DVD's I rented at Blockbuster.

[@chrisatkins9195]

Best Buy

[@keithhill6239]

Does Blockbuster even exist anymore

[@jamarieaikens7095]

No...sadly

[@patking8836]

Actually their is one blockbuster left in Oregon

[@drudd621]

I never saw this when it happened sadly, but my grandma got it on dvd for me to watch and I have seen it probably 8 times over again

[@hiranohacker]

With next week being 15 years since Eddie Guerreros passing I say No Mercy 2005 it was the last PPV before his passing but that event was also on his 38th birthday just away to say he's gone and missed but never forgotten

[@wingzero-0014]

Badd Blood: In Your House 1997 "That's Gotta Be Kane"

[@xolanimaseko2728]

When he said " hi my sweets" I died lol😭😂😂😂

[@frankhoward6645]

How ironic wrestlemania 23 got voted in a week that has the election taker vs batista was great & obviously battle of the billionaires were fun although I believe HBK should have won against cena

[@KatDJZ]

"Is he gonna stick it up Great Khali's bum?" Thank you for a good laugh at the whole hook part, Simon 😆

[@guitarheroguy5]

Raw from Tokyo in 2005 when Regal and Tajiri won the world tag team championships.

[@joyboymugiwara8696]

I would watch that

[@andyt005]

WCW Thunder January 8, 1998... Sting finally talks

[@similarart1074]

I reckon it's time to up those downs from the original AEW event ALL IN

[@chrisdonson3584]

You don't think they did that at the time?

[@franklingoodwin]

This is Retro Ups and Downs. 2018 definitely isn't retro and it also wasn't an AEW PPV. That was an Indie event run by Cody

[@guitarheroguy5]

Simon! Love you mate, RepoManFans in the comments right now. Also RVD is the best!

[@alexandergerharz3660]

If the show just has to do something with wrestling, then Retro Ups and Downs for the first ever Ups and Downs Episode

[@shannonboreham1709]

How retro does Retro have to be? I'd be keen to hear Simon's thoughts on the first AEW show and where they've gone from there.

[@haydendivine8412]

I loved this mania for the sole reason both world title matches were epic

[@kdontaetinsley4458]

Can you do WCW Bash at the Beach 1994 or Spring Stampede 1994? I loved Steve Austin’s matches from both ppvs. Also Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat at Slamboree was an absolute classic

[@Trippette]

WCW Nitro and WWF Raw 26th March 2001 - double ups and downs for a night no one expected

[@theodum8035]

Survivor series 98, it’s a DEADLY GAME!

[@TomTalksRubbish]

Survivor Series 98 please!!!

[@PaxAnarx]

Watched "See No Evil," 2 times last week; no lie! One of my mom's favorite movies and the BEST WWE FILM EVER

[@j0njn]

This Tuesday in Texas, please. It has everything, including Repo Man! And probably some other people too.

[@demetriusrollack3771]

I was in the 4th grade when I went to Ford Field for this Wrestlemania! I’ll never forget it 🔵🟠

[@crashnebulaonice3325]

This WrestleMania is special to me. In my country wrestling was on TV in the 90's and stopped until WrestleMania 22. 23 was the first time that I was a fan waiting for months for the biggest event of the year. Good memories

[@thomasbecker6185]

Thank you for keeping politics out of it, other KZbinrs can learn from you, especially some of your co-workers and former co-workers

[@mauriciocayetano7745]

Very first Wrestlemania i watched 🤧‼️

[@UKFonYT]

Suggestion: 1995 Royal Rumble ( HBK Wins from #1)

[@jknight1984]

May be too soon. OSW just posted a review about the event.

[@rfariha]

Absolutely agree with you on the Batista-Undertaker match! I don't think people appreciate it as much as they should!

[@nolankuffner3573]

I wish that Umaga would have hit the Samoan Spike on Trump. Rupturing his vocal chords. Sparing literally everyone from the last 6 years.

[@aaron0912]

TNA Unbreakable 2005. Aj v Joe v Daniels. Greatest triple threat in history.

[@jovongarrison974]

Arthea was from Detroit and lived 30 minutes away from Ford Field. That also may be reason she was there.

[@mikehancho9585]

I loved the Battle of The Billionaires, Trump vs Vince was so great 😂😂😂😂

[@totallysalinger]

I agree, Aretha Franklins favorite wrestler is Tyson freakin Tomko

[@bauer24power]

Vengeance 2002 a totally lost gem.

[@fusionmvp]

This was the first professional wrestling event that I saw live, not including the weekly episodes! I WILL ALWAYS LOVE THIS WRESTLEMANIA!

[@dannancauley6098]

Simon you should get special intro music for retro ups and downs

[@robertblum8901]

I know I'm not the only probably bringing this up. But that 45 minute match Cena and Michaels had on Raw in England just a couple of weeks later was amazing. ⬆️

[@jstriggsr]

"A Toy Popped Out"... you know we will all chuckle next time we are there....

[@daviejay]

This was the second live show I attended with my oldest brother. Littledidiknow

[@kingxd3ath_arts485]

I remember the moment Batista speared taker I was absolutely terrified the streak was about to end

[@TivaWap1738]

as a ruthless aggression baby, this is my favorite wrestlemania😌

[@Hellythep]

Mine was mania 20 but As a RA Baby I remember every mania from 20-28

[@thecaptainredbeard3109]

This was my first live event I ever went to and drove 8 hours to go, still have my hoodie! This video brought back some old memories!!

[@kennyjones8561]

I'm glad you covered this Simon this was the only wrestlemania I've gotten to attend in person

[@SAGiles]

Suggestion - WCW Superbrawl 1997

[@lukewrestlingmad]

The 1st mania I watched got it on dvd for Christmas 2007 started watching wrestling few weeks after mania 23

[@tequilapapii5936]

If you go back and watch that MITB match you can literally hear Hornswaggle screaming before Kennedy ( Kennedy ) hits him with the slam off the ladder 😭 😂

[@martinbrophy6898]

No way out 2001 or wwe invasion

[@wheneveriwantvideos]

The Druid’s are the best idc what anyone says they really set the whole vibe for me as a kid

[@Sc0rp10711]

I wanna know what you think of Armageddon 2006

[@killthemovieX]

Summerslam 2009 please! That main event between Punk and Hardy it's on another level