Retro-Viral Reviews - Virus Terminator (Cosmi Software, 1992)

the first of (hopefully many) AV and other misc. ancient software demonstrations and battles against computer viruses of their time. let me know what you think!

[@Darxide23]

"The box is a little beat up which happens after 30+ years." My guy. I didn't come here to be attacked like this.

[@Bottle.is.everywhere]

bro never gives up after 13 years , what a legend 🎉🎉

[@1300l]

Some heros don't ware cape... but they do use DOS ;P

[@RitaPSantosCordeiro]

13? It's literally 15!

[@Bottle.is.everywhere]

@@RitaPSantosCordeiro 17*

[@mncdssctn9110]

Dad got Dr Solomon for free from his work including updates, and that was how we discovered that our PC was infected with CIH. So we managed to remove it several months before its payload 😄

[@TyphinHoofbun]

Nice! I wish I'd been that lucky. I got my family computer destroyed by CIH, along with half the computers in the school's "learning labs", all from an infected copy of Nethack from an infected mirror site. But they never tracked it to me, and I kept my mouth shut, heh.

[@severinghams]

dayum lucky you

[@ibisrecordings]

When applicable, you should try testing them against more modern viruses. That would be very interesting

[@Crazy-Games]

That’s literally what I just commented 😂

[@drowningin]

They won’t detect most of them…

[@TheZabbiemaster]

imagine a modern virus writer being funny and rendering the virus nonactive on ancient machines with just a textfile of them talking about their dog

[@ibisrecordings]

​@drowningin I was thinking more along the lines of viruses that still fit the theme of the channel, but testing them on AV's that claim to have some sort of pattern recognition or something interesting like that.

[@aurathedraak7909]

Agreed.

[@TheWindowsInstall]

Dano - as someone who discovered your videos as a kid - seeing you return is like seeing a familiar friend. Was actually just showing my buddy your old videos + 8bit stuff the other day - Welcome Back, King.

[@ibisrecordings]

He is one of the first youtubers I've ever watched a video from and I've been watching ever since, I can't believe it's been around 12 years since then. Also if you read this Dan, I really enjoy the in depth review videos like this and can't wait to see what you have planned for future videos!

[@Buzzy913]

I love how instead of editing out the meowing, you just edited in a picture. Perfection.

[@KeksimusMaximus]

Memes melt my brain, after reading this comment I was like "what, mewing? in such a video?"

[@BekTrain]

Michelangelo & Joshi co-existing is actually insane.

[@hotscottrulz]

Michelangelo and Joshi coexisting is yaoi.

[@AROAH]

Joshi’s competing!

[@r4dios1lence92]

Leo made an appearance! \o/ EDIT: Not knowing what will happen makes it more interesting IMO. So it's okay if you don't test before shooting, specially because we can also see your reaction in real time. And yeah, it was really fun with this format!

[@SugarTearz2003]

Great video! I loved Leo’s little cameo 🥺🥺🥺 himb baby

[@pcsecuritychannel]

Great idea. Would love to see PC Cillin on this. I have a faint memory of that being the first antivirus I ever saw on a Windows 95/98 system. That's where my fascination with AVs began. :)

[@samu5167]

As a zoomer, I still found this very interesting. I love when old (and new) software is reviewed. Please make more :)

[@JohnSmith-xq1pz]

Hey you kid get off my lawn!

[@Vinni-2K]

nah he got the lawn pass this time@@JohnSmith-xq1pz

[@louloum3744]

im probably not the oldest follower around, but i am still someone who lights up with excitement when you upload. Please please make this a feature. You spent years showcasing viruses, now we can showcase how the public tried to combat them-hopefully for a few more years!

[@Trick_E_Lemonz]

I’m looking forward to the series. And the guest appearance of Leo. 🐈

[@bigspaghettio]

I remember you talking about making this series in that memorabilia video from a bit ago. I hope you continue with this series, there's some crazy anti-viruses out there.

[@Bradly105]

Congrats on the marriage.

[@thehylian6984]

7:28 they really got a typo right there on the credits section first page "Micrsoft"

[@ozzyzak]

Been watching for years now. This is more exciting to me than it should be hahaha

[@semihguner1]

46 minutes! We have been blessed. Thanks so much

[@alexthefpsguy]

Hey Dan, I want to thank you for getting me through rough times with the virus videos plus your the guy that got me into learning computers, and I want to do cyber security when I get out of high school all thanks to you 😂

[@The_Memos]

Finally the Virus Terminator! Been waiting for it since the Magold video

[@PrincessLillie]

I've been excited for this series since you first mentioned it, I'm happy it's finally here! I especially appreciate how in-depth you were. Personally if I were you, after demonstrating the antivirus programs, I would make an image of the installation media and put it on the Internet Archive, and maybe put a link to the archive page in the description. I think things like this need to be preserved, but that's just me.

[@danooct1]

preservation is indeed the end goal for all of these videos, so many of these I've never heard of and can find next to no information on them with Google searches.

[@Daroachie]

no way i was just wondering if you still had this after rewatching the magold video you're a legend dan

[@cambridgeport90]

This is a fantastic first start for this series...I have to tell you...and love the cover! The interesting thing about the title, in that era, "terminator" was a fine name. Nowadays? Anything called "terminator" would probably scream rogue scanner. Much more relatively peaceful times, all things considered.

[@jcxtra]

Oooh! Yay! This video finally dropped! Been wanting you doing this since you teased it! I'm writing this at the start but looking forward to it :D Edited after watching: Oh that was excellent. I was thinking you might have used the ALife virus with all those naughty terminated viruses would have been quite visually interesting with the 'Virus terminator'. Looking forward to more in the series. Impressive how joshi helped michaelangelo though. I wonder if the audit thing would have picked anything up. Is this software archived anywhere (I haven't checked!)

[@Rople50]

I remember this from the Win95 anniversary vid. Glad to finally see a video on this!

[@ahamburger111]

Weird to think I've been watching this channel for 10 years now. Been looking forward to this new series and it was worth the wait.

[@youtube.commentator]

Love your uploads, thank you for continuing to do so

[@pretzel1006]

Cool, cant wait for more of the series!

[@CanadianBakin42O]

Club penguin is so nostalgic

[@Shiftyeee]

I want to say hi, I've been watching ur videos for a few years now, you're loved ❤

[@PsychoFizz]

Hello from the house of oct1 I will pass your message along to dan

[@realausome]

Hello from the house of Gryffindor, I will pass your message along to Professor McConagall

[@realausome]

Lol, now I'm imagining you're gonna forget that the Windows 98 disk has Joshi on it and you're just gonna install Windows 98 with a side of Joshi 🤣 Great video, keep it up man. You're one of my biggest inspirations and sources for learning cybersecurity.

[@fbi1401]

This dude is a beast I love coming back to find you made more videos!

[@DRYESPLZ]

Mother of god I'm so in love with this new segment about old antiviruses. This channel is my OBSESSION

[@KyleHartley_crazybangles]

I’m really glad to finally see you do this! Been watching since 2013 and I will want to see more like this.

[@technoman9000]

This was awesome. I hope you can do more antivirus software packages from the 90s.

[@MontyMoelle]

PLEASE do more of these. This is such a fun series idea, and seeing multiple viruses cooperate like this is INSANELY cool

[@hpincorporated]

the virus terminator review only took a few years but i'm happy that it finally came

[@AvEnth1]

Another drop from the greatest of all time.. very excited for the series

[@geogaddi91]

I really appreciate the detail put into the captions. Can't wait for more reviews!

[@ahellofanimp]

Honestly, good on ya for proceeding on with the idea I can't wait to see where the series will go

[@KRcanondaisa]

this was incredibly fun to watch! definitely keep going with this idea and see what other crazy things may happen :D

[@The_Fragmented]

I have been waiting for this since it was teased in your Magold video. Excellent video, I'm excited to see more content like this

[@YukikoSnowLeopardess]

That was amazing, looking forward to the next one. 💙

[@grime69]

I was just watching the Magold virus vid and this was in it!! And that video is 7 years old...have people been waiting that long? Cool vid 🎉

[@greenknight9000]

I'd love a playlist of all the times Leo made an appearance in your videos. Such a gorgeous, adorable kitty!

[@johnandmegh]

Virus video greatest hits compilations combined with retro software reviews...this is awesome!

[@Onkoe]

this was fantastic! i’d love to see some Win16 AVs as that’s my favorite timespan of malware 😄✨

[@sixfr0nt]

14:54 going nuts… just like the hard drive indicator light! leo is sooo cute

[@echosixtyfour]

this is a great series idea, i have lots of memories of playing around with tons of virus scanners back when i was a kid

[@TimeSplitter1701]

I love how it tries to look serious with a gun, but what's on the cover is a .22LR target pistol, which isn't really used for, well, terminating lol Great content as always, Dan!

[@rdgfb]

honestly, i like the new variety of videos we've been getting, keep it up!

[@sutorippuwebmaster8783]

Had Super Huey II for the Commodore 64. It's basically a heli gunship combat sim. In particular, the "Bermuda Triangle" mission was a mindfreak.

[@Nellem1613]

Seriously great video. Looking forward to the next episode. I enjoy the length :)

[@pawanyr360]

Would be super cool if you could upload images of these to the Internet Archive. I bet many of them were never preserved.

[@Ecl1p5e-MM8BDM]

The first part reminded me a lot of ashens lmao

[@toxicdragon323]

Nice, I can't wait to see these series along with the virus videos you already do.

[@GDCytosine]

The fact that Joshi single-handedly called the shots to destroy Virus Terminator's reputation for good is amazing

[@WishMakers]

I had been waiting for this video for so long, and it took me too long to figure out it had dropped... This is a really promising series!!!!

[@maplemabel]

love the subtitles and cat cameos

[@glitchedoom]

Nothing relaxes me like videos about ancient computer software. Looking forward to the new series.

[@Daijyobanai]

Please do more of these videos, Dan. This was entertaining and had cats. Thumbs up!

[@VisionThing]

Can’t wait for more of this series!

[@aznxknight]

22:32 "Pig up or Pig down." Hahaha, loving the simpson's reference.

[@Andrew982_]

I really enjoyed this, I’m excited to see what you look at next!

[@Zymaric]

Dan please never stop your craft, it is amazing!!!

[@JessicaLieb]

Always happy to see a new danooct video. This was interesting!

[@LovableAmy]

An antivirus program & a Leo appearance definitely made it a great video.

[@Michael_Knight823]

"i fear no man... but that THING... it scares me" -- danooct1, 2/24/2024 in reference to the Vienna DOS virus

[@Melok3503]

I like it! Very interesting video, I will happily see more of old antiviruses and messed up DOS :D

[@Noob-vk4tw]

Finally!, after your playthrough of virus the game, was waiting for this series

[@Reiska42]

I had both Inside Trader and Corporate Raider a s a kid; they're very similar games to each other which run on the same engine but have different objectives. They're both essentially stock market sims, with Inside Trader specifically having mechanics around illegal trading (hence the name) and Corporate Raider being more focused on hostile takeovers.

[@SmeddyTooBestChannel]

I own a clipart CD from Cosmi Software where it has this insane DRM where i think it literally contains the entire software library of theirs but you had to put in a password to get the one you wanted. I was unable to get it to work and said DRM involved a window with this really fucking obnoxious FMV speaking to you about the license stuff. needless to say I do not in fact trust them.

[@ryannnnn7]

random reply but I happened to get a product from Cosmi (their typing tutor, i figured there mighta been some good wav files on there) recently and when i was looking at the directory, i kinda had to do a double-take because it had like 40 other programs. weird shit

[@aurathedraak7909]

We need more Leo the cat and that, dan loves cats, which im a cat person. But also we need more of these virus detectors, reading and box looking. Because I would find this even more Entertaining and interesting but keep it up Dan. We love you

[@xander2698]

leo making a stink in the middle of your video was so funny! glad you didnt edit it out

[@GeneralPotatoSalad]

"Alucard Inchoate"? That sounds like a forum username you pick after your first five attempts are already in use. Did someone literally just grab two random words for their company name? Fun video, was amusing to see the demo collapse into a Joshi & Michaelangelo tagteam. But I gotta rant for a second. I remember Cosmi for the games they published on the C64; sooooo much jank. Their collection "20 solid gold" was... something. Notables: Aztec Challenge: Essentially a string of minigames, several of which required the luck of not having two different threats fire off at the same time and make an unavoidable death wall. Caverns of Khafka: Eardrum-damaging sound effects, not unlike some of the viruses shown today, except you paid for it. Only game I've seen where the gameplay seemed to require glitching through the walls. Chernobyl: All the fun of sitting at a nuclear power plant console. Knucker Hole: A 3 part game. The parts could be played individually, but the full game was impossible to beat because they didn't correctly reset the sprites between part 1 and part 2 and your oversized player sprite collided fatally with elevators. Mediator: A bizarre and obtuse arcade puzzler. Never saw anyone beat this one. Only game I've seen that not only randomly interrupts you with a dull minigame, but resets your current stage progress after the minigame ends. Slinky: QBert, if it was less fun. Had between-level vignettes like Ms. Pac-Man did. Your reward for not dying on a stage was not seeing short the vignette, instead showing the much longer and more boring "instant replay" of your gameplay across the entire stage. Twice I saw it glitch and decide to do the instant replay even though I died, desyncing at the death point and locking up the game because the replay never "wins" Psycastria: A ripoff of Uridium. Notable for three things: 1) It used speech synthesis to insult you when you die, 2) the title music was (uncredited) Andy Lee Robinson's "Cold Tea" played in reverse, and 3) if you used an auto-fire joystick it would force a game over with a "Turn autofire off" message. Your thumbs will suffer as we please! Professor I.Q.: Simple random minigames, written in BASIC. Most annoying thing was in a one player game you played "against" the professor (no AI for most of the games, he just awarded himself points on his turn) and he'd gloat if he won but physically punish a random nonexistent Player 2 if he lost. I wanted to see that smug PETSCII art professor suffer. Some of the other games were decent-to-good, like the Forbidden Forest games. Time Tunnel was a fun puzzle game, even if the final puzzle made no sense. But *man* did that collection solidify in my mind the idea that Cosmi was 80% junk.

[@notbaldfrost]

If I had to guess they mixed up the legal definition of "inchoate" as, like, "preparing against crime", when it really means that you're getting charged for attempt or conspiracy. That or they mean to say that their company is rudimentary, half-built and still out of order. Not a flattering look for my boy Alucard.

[@raffskid857]

That Vienna buzzing would scare the absolute crap outta me if I saw it when I was young

[@johnwarthunder1990]

a spreadsheet of which ones it recognized and which ones it didn't (maybe with a scoring system for different softwares?) could be fun. food for thought. ps give that kitty a treat for me

[@mariashanahan7102]

You finally doing this after teasing it years ago is like ending an era

[@MonoBeez]

Loved this video would like to see more of u having fun

[@Daijyobanai]

I have no idea why Dan reading ancient texts to me is soothing, but it is :D

[@kaargen]

This was a journey, I'm looking forward to more.

[@daemonspudguy]

I remember when you proposed doing these videos in the Magold video, and this was an example of what you wanted to do.

[@ToTheGAMES]

Aww yis! Loved it! Looking out for more, whenever 😎

[@infinitephantasm]

hey hey, i remember this guy from the magold video! can't wait to see more from this brand new series n_n

[@crylune]

I feel like I’ll love these series.

[@NicholasAguirre-j4k]

this long form content is great! love it

[@cemmy410]

10:50 I was watching this with my cat on my lap and as soon as she heard Leo she ran over to the window behind the TV to see what was going on 😅

[@monkeykiller_]

We want to see more guests like Leo 🐈🐈

[@Ale.K7]

Looking forward to see more old AVs!

[@manslikeaqeelsonicadvances8566]

hey man I miss your 8-bit videos...

[@Sopravvissuto87]

I love this format! Keep it up

[@xchronox0]

Definitely excited for this new series!

[@megakek4457]

That was a lot of fun! I love how they went from "detects any virus" on the box to "well, maybe only changes to files you have selected/scanned in advance are found" in the manual. Did it even have a TSR component? One request though: please replace Abraxis and that demon one with something that doesn't produce a hellishly high pitched sound. I had to mute those segments (thanks for the subtitles!)

[@KeksimusMaximus]

Nice username 👌🏻

[@megakek4457]

@@KeksimusMaximusLikewise, brother!

[@DJ_Urun]

I like that Joker style insanity with these viruses.

[@drawter3592]

quick question when was the virus terminator first introduced in this channel cause i feel like its been actual years since we first saw the cover

[@danooct1]

I posted about it on Twitter several years ago, but I can't remember if I ever talked about it on KZbin.

[@Alloyd031]

I think I saw it in Magold worm video

[@ZeaZolf]

​@@danooct1 you showed it IIRC in the Magold Worm, when it printed that document

[@drawter3592]

@@Alloyd031 thanks for refreshing my mind super dan fan

[@danooct1]

good lookin' out everybody. I've made so many of these videos I can barely remember some of them

[@TheTruthAboutLemmings]

A bit of history about the companies and maybe some period reviews might be nice as an intro where applicable

[@Jasperthefloof.-kh1rd]

24:45 "Task failed successfully."

[@andrewkovnat]

That is a well lacquered table

[@danooct1]

only the finest cheap Chinese table from Amazon with the sharpest edges and corners imaginable for this channel

[@drowningin]

That Virus list is pretty cool. You should grab some of them if you can. I enjoyed pausing it, and reading through there. I sometimes wonder, what did the authors of these virus’s go on to do in life. It would be great to find, and interview the authors of famous viruses.

[@tezcanaslan2877]

I think there are interviews with some

[@drowningin]

@@tezcanaslan2877 I saw one with 2 Indian brothers who run a software company still

[@cambridgeport90]

In addition...seeing Joshi and Michaelangelo like that in tandom...I wonder how many times you saw that in the wild back then? And...would be funny to see what happens with that Win 98 boot disk. LOL...that was kinda funny; will need to go back and watch your Joshi, Denzuko, and some of the others you mentioned, though I either forgot about, or didn't yet watch.

[@ragingfred]

Will you cover Covirosoft and Trendfire Security Essiantiles?