RetroAhoy: Pinball Dreams

[@SketchBookShortFilms]

Digital Illusions Creative Entertainment. Holy shit...

[@destroyfrance]

im scared....

[@ZipZapTesla]

+SketchBookShortFilms ?

[@SketchBookShortFilms]

***** D I C E

[@ZipZapTesla]

+SketchBookShortFilms "says" in spanish

[@PhilShary]

Oh my

[@Cubicthing]

Well shit, I wasn't expecting the whole Dice part! What a twiiiiist!

[@Ireoji_mayo]

fucking plot twist

[@thomasmartin5088]

+Bill Cipher Bill?, How is Weirdmageddon?

[@Cubicthing]

Thomas Martin It's pretty sweet. And less weird than the name suggests. It should be called Getmauledandguttedalivewhilewedanceandsingonyourcorpse-geddon. But I guess it was a tad too long.

[@WiseGuy508]

+Bill Cipher Well he is a Pinball Wizard. There has to be a twist.

[@Iliek]

+Bill Cipher twist THIS **ziiiiiiiiiiiip**

[@mcgibs]

The Amiga never fails to astound me with how good its games looked and sounded.

[@SPIFFgg]

It really was such an incredible use of the technology.

[@11Enix]

Holy shit my jaw dropped when he said that Digital illusions turned into DICE.

[@WERTYBD]

pinball...... to battlefield.... what?

[@softrockification]

+xathora pinball*

[@kitteh200]

+xathora It's more of a history of DICE (Digital Illusions Creative Entertainment)

[@WERTYBD]

+softrockification lol

[@sonyviva308]

I actually had very good memory from playing one of their Rally racing games. Check out Rally Masters, race of Champions. I even remember their red DICE logo.. Great times.

[@ribenasquash]

I know right. Shitty 2d pinball game... Full 3d multiplayer battlefield simulation. Unity wasn't even a thing back then so how could they cheese it?

[@Pieception2]

Pinball Dreams is my favorite Battlefield game.

[@taoufik.jabbari]

Lemings to GTA Pinball to battlefield What's next boy..

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

Super Mario ports to Doom?

[@53gaDr34mc4st]

Vulgus to Resident Evil

[@dragonliIIy]

Lost Vikings to Diablo:Immortal

[@xisumavoid]

I remember this games :-D Was just a kid at the time.

[@mysteriousmango6467]

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[@mysteriousmango6467]

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[@sizor3ds]

+xisumavoid nice to see you here. also no hisses, thats new

[@Gruegirl]

+xisumavoid I always prefered Epic Pinball on dos

[@ThrashingMadPL]

Loved music - Amiga ruled back in the day :)

[@ReticentLily]

Ok, I feel the need to comment on this. Pinball was not dying in the 90s (or at least until the very end of the 90s.). The best selling pinball machine released in March of 1992. (Addams Family) Some people consider the 90s to be a golden age of pinball, and for good reason. Over half of the top 10 games voted by the community on Pinside are from the 90s, with 4 of them in the top five. Medieval Madness (1997), Attack From Mars(1995), Twilight Zone(1993), and Monster Bash(1998) being the top 4 in order. PAPA was founded in 1991, and hosted the pinball world championships from 1991-1995, and in 1998. They took a hiatus from here to 2004, and continue to host them to this day. Perhaps the popularity of these games may not be from a decline of pinball, but rather, an addiction.

[@xyrzmxyzptlk1186]

NheroArconix - Wonderfully stated. Pinball simulators have gotten WAY better since this one but real pinball M/C’s are gonna be tough to beat. Attack from Mars has to be my favourite!

[@ShadowBaofu]

@@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 Vpinmame and Visual Pinball have done a pretty fantastic job recreating all the real world tables. The physics might be questionable to some, but the way they brought those tables to life is nothing short of incredible.

[@anonony9081]

I come from the future, pinball is making a comeback baby!

[@metfan4l]

Wow this brought back memories, I played these soo much as a little kid. Good times!

[@RochRich.]

I want 'Battlefield: Pinball' on the Frostbite engine - make it happen, DICE! Also, I miss Space Cadet Pinball on Windows.

[@NevoPlaysGames]

Please purchase premium edition for a ball and Extreme Collector's edition for a soundtrack. The base game would only be a table, but hey it looks better than outside.

[@RochRich.]

NevoPlaysGames Game is riddled with bugs upon release and keeps crashing. Don't worry, it'll be fixed in about a year.

[@alaeriia01]

Space Cadet was a demo for FullTilt Pinball.

[@nekture]

I loved Slam Tilt when I was young. Thanks for reminding me of it's existence.

[@halbwurm]

Damn I spent so many hours in Pinball Dreams on my Amiga500 when I was a child! DICE came a long way! ;)

[@megahombre24]

+Halbwurm - Gameplay Commentary, Waffen Guides & Let´s Plays Same here, played it on SNES though.

[@mikecowpg]

I really appreciate what Stu is doing for the history of video games. He's doing something that I would like to do, but that he can do much better. He's taking the significant games, events and personalities in gaming and presenting them in a way that is accessible for everyone. I think that we'll look back on his work from this period and realize how significant his contribution to the gaming world was at this point in time.

[@ParadiseDecay]

Man I used to love 'Pinball Drreams' Thanks for bringing back all my childhood memories! :)

[@TheSovjetCat]

As a Game Art student I truly adore these videos. I had some Gaming History classes and this really feels like a tiny extra hours on those classes. Also your voice is as amazing as ever but you must've heard that a lot. Keep it coming, I love the vids!

[@llaauuddrruupp]

OMG, I played Pinball Fantasies so much back then on my Amiga 500! This is the first time I've seen or even thought about it for 25 years. What a blast from my youth. Thank you, Ahoy.

[@oliharding]

Oh my god! I had no idea that was Dice's history! An interesting little video! Great job, Stu. I've always found Pinball gameplay oddly mesmerising and fun.

[@aferguson850]

I've always loved this video stu, has to be in my top 10 favourites of your work!

[@BenKuyt64]

This shit is epic, yo, Ahoy, you're doing amazing work. Keep going, you're one of the best anthologists right now.

[@plubassmusician]

I love what you've done with your channel. Thanks for all the great content!

[@rafaelarevalo8047]

The writing is phenomenal as always.

[@gingin808]

Your videos are so incredibly well presented. This is far better presented than most of TV with nowhere near the budget. It's fantastic, keep it up Stu :)

[@SB-hs4yn]

How does this guy not have over 20m subscribers? His production value is so good, better than most larger KZbiners... Love this channel.

[@Type_Run]

excellent work .. had no idea digital illusions became dice *mind blown*

[@TheOldSchoolCrisis]

Man you have been putting out some top notch content and pretty consistent over the last few weeks. This is great!

[@boredom1000]

Hello. I'm an aspiring game designer/programmer. Being born in 1994 I've missed a "little" of gaming history. I've got to say that your videos are some of the best video game documentaries ever made. Keep up the fantastic work!

[@MichaelW1980randoms]

I love the Zen Pinball Series. I think, it’s a worthy successor. Nice video!

[@superdudeman666]

I can't WAIT for Battlefield 3!!!

[@brianperez3808]

bo3 is going to be better

[@tinyNinja3]

+Brian Perez It better be since its coming out 4 years later

[@oomerimunni]

+superdudeman666 Bruh!

[@gramursowanfaborden5820]

+superdudeman666 i'm looking forward to Halo: Reach myself

[@Adeaddodo]

+Jordan Jokowidjaja - Joke - Your head

[@XC11301991]

Oh Ahoy, that setup to twist.

[@neojeets]

I love the retro series. My favorites on this channel.

[@Krystalmyth]

Omg the sound of those games at the start of the video. An exquisite symphony to my ears.

[@stackptr]

Great video as always! Ahoy is shaping up to be my favorite channel on KZbin :)

[@rvoros]

I'd say Pinball Dreams is easily the best pinball ever made. It had the perfect atmosphere. You haven't emphasized its glorious music and sound effects, which is a treat in itself.

[@Linerax]

From virtual pinballs to military shooters: what a progression!

[@jackuno]

pinball dreams is amazing. you brought me right back to my childhood, stuart. cheers!

[@jiggles.3397]

really enjoy your videos man. Keep up the good work :^)

[@zacherynuk842]

I recall enjoying these games, at the time I didn't fully realise their Demo roots. The music, even now, reminds me of Purple Motion - who did the sound tracks for the Future Crew Demos. Nice vid. Cheers.

[@gtafreak47]

Thank you for sharing my childhood with the world! I still play these today on an emulator. It's just a shame Digital Illusions went downhill after. :(

[@RaydeusMX]

Gotta love these videos. And this one made me want to replay Rollers of the Realm. XD

[@Peratohtori]

The soundtrack to this and the sequel are amazing

[@RichCommander]

I don't know why everyone is surprised that DICE made pinball games. Lots of popular game developers got their start doing something vastly different than what they're known for. For example, Bungie made pong clones and Bethesda made sports games.

[@CherryPixelBun]

Bungie only made one Pong clone. IIRC the rest is shooters and RTS games.

[@andersdenkend]

Kudos for mentioning Slam Tilt!

[@evilmiera]

Man, what a great game. I remember playing it on my SNES of all things, before I got the PC version.

[@104d_3rr0r_vince]

Most people like PFantasies but PDreams is in my heart till this day.

[@alaeriia01]

Except the 90s greatest pinball simulation series was Pro Pinball, developed by Cunning Developments and published by Empire Interactive.

[@alaeriia01]

Hello, me from a year ago! I came to this video to say this, but I had already said it.

[@alaeriia01]

This is still true 4 years later. I will see myself again in another three or so.

[@Not-TheOne]

Forthcoming Battlefield 3....sheesh, how time flies, we've had BF4 and now heading to BF1. Happy I found your channel, really like your videos, very informative.

[@mrhurtalot]

pinball is alive and thriving currently even in 2022. otherwise, great video.

[@superultrasomethings]

I remember these games, been years since I played them.

[@paradust]

You guys summed it up! One thing that (in my humble opinion) didn't get the attention it deserved was music, namely the theme music in Pinball Dreams / Fantasies (not so much in Illusions or Slam Tilt). If you ever do an episode about .mod format ( H I N T ! ), I am sure these two will be shining examples of the versatility of the format... or the people behind it. P.S. Bjorn Lynne, Martin Iveson etc.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

Great stuff as usual :) I remember Pinball Dreams and Fantasies. They were amazing, I spent so many hours playing these games. Those two, and Tetris... :P I didn't know they went on to form DICE, very interesting.

[@xynaptic]

I remember playing this in back in the day. Damn those youthful days.

[@alensrozenbergs2122]

so good to have ahoy back.

[@Alaeriia]

With all due respect to Digital Illusions' fare, the finest pinball simulation series of the 1990s (and perhaps of all time) is the Pro Pinball series by Cunning Developments.

[@llpBR]

my favorite pinball games from the 90s were Epic Pinball and Pinball Fantasies

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

I miss being in an arcade and hearing fifty different game soundtracks going at once. Grew up in the 90s, so I caught the tail-end of arcades here in the West.

[@Runeclaw]

The Pinball series was amazing and Pinball Illusions was one of, if not the, first game I bought for my Amiga 1200. They also did some great racing and rally games, too bad they stopped with that.

[@The-Bloke]

I never played Dreams, but loved Pinball Fantasies and played it a huge amount in the early 90s. Both on my friend's Amiga 500, and then later also on my own PC. I still remember the cheat code EARTHQUAKE which allowed unlimited "tilts" - a tilt jerked the ball a bit, simulating slamming a real pinball machine with your hand to try to cheat. And EXTRABALLS was the other I think, to get 5 balls (lives) instead of 3. I was never great at the game but loved playing all the same.

[@jzmmm]

pinball fantasies was one of my favourite games growing up. I had port of it on my phone too. Stone 'n Bones = best table!

[@hannah9077]

So 21st Century Entertainment shut down in the first year of the 21st century...

[@SomaticApparition]

inb4 Stuart is called out for something vaguely Social Justicey that he said 4 years ago.

[@RodrigoLinhares]

+BranchySpore700 People today get offended by everything. It's sad, really.

[@SomaticApparition]

JJAB91 ....................erm..............why?

[@JJAB91]

BranchySpore700 Why what?

[@SomaticApparition]

JJAB91 Why is social justice a plague that needs to be stopped? I honestly can't understand why anyone would think that

[@alexjohnson9798]

+BranchySpore700 check out Sargon of akkad's videos specifically his series 'why people hate feminism'

[@timsimenc]

Wow, I had no idea the history behind this. I had the shareware version of this for our DOS/Win3.1 machine growing up, and put tons of hours into it.

[@TheGreg6466]

i spent many hours on the nightmare table, there was a double your score bonus that was very hard to get, brilliant game.

[@CrestaDMente]

My father had a computer with MS-DOS and he spent hours playing those pinball games, I always remember that gargoyle from 21st Century Entertainment.

[@lurkerrekrul]

+Cresta D-Mente Actually, it's a Griffin. :)

[@gasmaskman1324]

for those looking to play dreams and fantasies they were released on the the psn store as part of minis

[@frankhansen2992]

that game was amazing the music even better .

[@pumpkin6429]

I love how you didn't let on right away that these were the same people who would go on to make the Battlefield games. I'm serious. Good on ya! :)

[@Adderkleet]

As part of a bundle, I got Worms Pinball for PC. I loved that game.

[@badkluster]

DICE were Digital Illusions all along... Mind blown

[@Waccoon]

Of particular note to me is that Pinball Dreams was one of the few Amiga games to utilize "extra half-brite" mode, which allowed 64 colors on screen, rather than the usual 32 used by most developers. The game used it for all the blinking light effects. This was a big deal to me, since I had an original A1000 that couldn't display half-brite. I ended up buying an updated Denise video chip for my A1000 just to play this game properly! Pinball Illusions was visually stunning, but unfortunately they changed the physics. The ball physics were much improved, but the flippers were weird as they always wanted to launch the ball backwards, making the tables really hard to play. My favorite collection in the series is Pinball Fantasies, which I still play every once in a while.

[@Warui88]

I had the SNES version but this hit me in the nostalgia feels.

[@thomassynths]

Pinball and Battlefield are quite related from a gameplay and physics standpoints. In both, you hurl high speed metal balls to gain glory.

[@OldmansCC]

From pinball to multiplayer shooter? 'Ballsy' :P

[@MrTBSC]

+OldmansCC .... ooohhhh GTFO!!! xO

[@Krystalmyth]

The Turbografx 16 Devil's Crush is the best digital pinball game I've ever played.

[@DieWeltIstSchlecht]

Pinball Fantasies was the shit! Digital sound out of the PC Speaker!!! Not just beep beep beep! It totally blew my mind! Those were the days...

[@Alex-xl4xe]

Insane how graphics changed just the past 30 years.

[@cmpunk94hd]

I loved this game! Please do more Amiga games! I don't know why but something about that era of gaming is so fascinating to me.

[@zenithquasar9623]

One of my most favourite games!

[@bodnotbod]

Spent so many hours on the Wild West themed table. Great game.

[@burdmate]

Digital Illusions became DICE? Holy fucking shit!

[@HisaoNakaii]

this is a reupload, but i ain't even mad, at least Stu is still alive and well.

[@Darlos9D]

+Hisao Nakai I'll listen to him talk about anything.

[@HisaoNakaii]

Darlos9D i'd probably listen to him talk about Asbestos and still feel enlightened.

[@kappa_kang60]

The only person to make school interesting.

[@ZipZapTesla]

+Hisao Nakai Not really. He died.

[@ekojar3047]

Are there hidden playable pinball machines in battlefield?

[@lhl2500]

I had my A500 hooked up to my double cassette deck boom box, and I can remember recording the table theme songs on tape 'cause they were super cool. Instead of starting the the game, just open the highscore list for a table, and you'd get the theme song playing. Side note: I'm pretty sure I also have the game on PSP Vita.

[@ConcaCon]

I remember the Ignition table, that was my favorite one in the game.

[@sonyviva308]

Can't wait for the new Pinball Dreams running Frostbite engine.

[@robbiepickett7846]

Only Ahoy could go from pinball to First Person Shooters and still make it make sense.

[@zembryoz]

Codename Eagle was their first FPS and it's literally Battlefield 0.

[@madsli]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I still think that the 'crush pinball' series was the best series of pinball games, period.

[@retrovideogamejunkie]

i guess that is why I LOVE pinball fx 2 "serie" ... (and i play more pinball fantasies than pinball dream back in the day)

[@adrenochrome25]

great video ! thanks :) perhaps you should have mentioned the amazing trick Digital Illusions did use for multiball : they exploited one of the unique capability from the Amiga at this time : use several screen resolutions, at will on screen. When multiball was triggered, the game switched, in real-time, from 200/256 vertical lines to interlaced mode using 400/512 vertical lines in order to display a more global view, with much less scrolling, of the pinball table. I cant remember other games using such insta resolution change in-game (except for transition screens). It even caused troubles when trying to promote the original 15 KHz signal on more recent 31 KHz crt monitors because the later where not designed to switch from resolution without delay, so you ended with a black transition screen of a few seconds when the resolution change occurred making you loose all the balls ;)

[@LuisManuelLealDias]

oooooh pinball dreams OMG I played that stuff so many hours!!

[@zacharync3066]

I thought dice first game was bf 1942 but you learn something new everyday

[@kidsIIIII009]

This guy can run a show of these videos he made to a tv channel.....

[@Parzec]

Slamtilt is still my favourite pinball game, ever. More modern Pinball FX2 is good too.

[@KrisztianKecskes]

Great stuff you make here, although I think you should've mentioned the Win XP's space cadet pinball!

[@jacob3178259]

"with the forthcoming battlefield 3" damn i forgot how old these videos really are lol

[@Dukefazon]

Talking about the fade of arcade era... If you happen to visit Hungary, make sure you visit the Pinball Museum! :)

[@ifm2181]

RIP pinball, I miss it :(

[@TenkaiFromMoon]

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