Retroid Pocket 5 PS3 Emulation

[@SwineMaster1]

I got so excited when I saw the title of this video but thanks for getting my expectations in check immediately

[@RyanRetro1]

Haha you're welcome!

[@Cecil4029]

I FINALLY received my RP5 on Christmas Eve and opened it yesterday. I've been watching your videos for over a month trying to prepare and decide how I'm going to set this thing up (Moonlight Streaming on PC library/local configuration to device/etc). Just wanted to say that I appreciate all of the hard work and that your videos are extremely entertaining. Thank you for your hard work and for sharing your findings! :)

[@RyanRetro1]

Perfect timing! I hope my videos will help you get it all working well (not this one, obviously!)

[@Smoje79]

PS3 is one of the most difficult consoles to emulate even on modern PCs because of the architecture, should be even easier to emulate PS4 because is more closer to actual PC

[@RyanRetro1]

Thanks for the information - it's definitely a mess!

[@Smoje79]

@@RyanRetro1 I tried Puppetter demo and the emulator exploded lol lol

[@danielordonez1643]

So ps4 games are easier to run on the retroid pocket 5?

[@TheRealAlpha2]

@@danielordonez1643 Pretty sure they're joking, although I wouldn't be surprised to see someone get ShadPS4 up on this to show at least a title screen.

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@danielordonez1643 No. The reason why PS4 emulation isn't as hard on PCs is because they have GPUs both on par or much better than the PS4 and the fact you don't have to translate the code from one language to x86. Both PCs and PS4 both use x86 instruction set meaning getting to emulate the CPU is much easier. The RP5 is ARM based meaning that it's CPU would need a translation layer harming performance plus it has a far less capable GPU too

[@Bugside]

Wait, we get guitar playing on these videos now? This guy's awesome

[@leelee7334]

I hope you add this to your spreadsheet. I didn't even think this was an option. I finally did get rocknix to work.

[@RyanRetro1]

I'd like to!

[@leelee7334]

@@RyanRetro1 Did you say you had Vita working too?

[@azysgaming8410]

Great video as always!

[@TheExFatal]

it just came out

[@RyanRetro1]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@willm127]

Welcome back, Ryan! hope you had a nice break and some relaxing time off.

[@RyanRetro1]

Thanks a lot! I'm really enjoying the down time thanks

[@NerdOffDuty]

Another great video and I appreciate you going ahead and just trying stuff out just for the heck of it to see what runs and what the limits are.

[@RyanRetro1]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@cardcaptorsnaruto]

I'm honestly just so impressed at your results. It may sound like a plane taking off into orbit but I'm just impressed some things are even running at all! I probably won't dig into this emulator on my own. I am still struggling with the Vita emulation. This is my first real dive into emulation, I am loving that it emulates the secret console and ps2 almost perfectly in a lot of cases. My joystick broke so I have had to stop testing but the replacement is coming today and I can't wait to try more things on it. Trying to get the emulation working is almost as fun as playing on it. I am a little disappointed in my ability to get vita up and working but that's my ability and I am still learning. It's been a really fun experience so far so thank you for helping this total beginner figure out what this device is capable of! Also persona 5 seems to work from the secret console. It's so interesting the same game works on the secret console but not ps3 emulation!

[@RyanRetro1]

Don't beat yourself up about the Vita emulation, I'm also really struggling with it. I've been wanting to release a part 2 of Vita games but it's been so difficult to get enough running for a video. If you're not in my Discord already, we have a Vita channel where you can ask questions and I've also added Vita to my compatibility spreadsheet so we can help each other get more games working!

[@Centrocal]

Could you do a tutorial of how to install Rocknix?

[@tonyrosario1940]

Happy Holidays, Ryan! Hope you are doing well, man! 🍻🤘🏼🔥

[@RyanRetro1]

Happy Holidays!

[@Nerddy434]

24:00 At that point just play Master Duel lol amazing work as usual!

[@solidust573]

Rocknix seems to be having trouble running the fans correctly. Happy holidays & Great vid 😮👍

[@RyanRetro1]

You too, happy holidays!

[@NoLieIm51]

Wake up!!!!!!! Ryan retro put out a video

[@xyz4306]

For begging it's more than amazing

[@chadkittleson5447]

I'd love to see some physical mod stuff if that interests you at all. Like button swap or similar. Happy Holidays!

[@RyanRetro1]

If I get more devices in I'll definitely get into that for sure! Right now this one RP5 is all I have so if I mess up the job my channel is done 😂

[@futlo4398]

please test the splatterhouse ps3 😁

[@spitfire0781]

How hard are these to set up . I want one but I’m not the most tech savvy .., would there be an idiots guide to setting up one .?

[@dm.3145]

Watch Retro game corps' beginner's guide for the android os and this video uses rocknix os there you just have to put in the roms and bios and then it's ready

[@TheJoshuaJames]

is there a good option for playing Half life 2?

[@chadkittleson5447]

Not Retro videogame related but engagement is engagement..... Do you have an electric guitar of choice?

[@RyanRetro1]

Thanks for the engagement! My current Harley Benton TE62DB CAR is a beauty. I used to have a really nice Fender American Stratocaster which I also loved. How about you?

[@chadkittleson5447]

@RyanRetro1 I hate to be boring but it's a Stratocaster. Mine is an Affinity Squier that I rewired with Seymour Duncan. I like to tinker. Cheers and happy new year!

[@RyanRetro1]

@@chadkittleson5447 Strats are my favourite! Sounds awesome. Happy new year!

[@angusshearer7811]

Hi, do you have any advice for connecting controllers to RP5? I have an 8BitDo that the RP5 seems to think is a keyboard. When I use any other 8BitDo controller it seems to work fine.

[@RyanRetro1]

8bitdo controllers have various modes. It might have a switch on the back to change between D or X - set it to D. If it doesn't have a switch, you need to hold Start and one of the face buttons when you turn the controller on - each one changes the mode of the controller. So if you hold Start + B when you turn on the 8bitdo controller, it'll be one mode. If you hold Start + X it'll be a different mode. Play around with that until it's the correct mode and it should fix your issue!

[@ConfusedMika]

21:59 That is indeed how Persona 5 is intended to look on the title screen of the PS3

[@paredfia]

Anymore details on that snazzy keyboard? Tis the season!

[@RyanRetro1]

It's an Iqunix L80!

[@paredfia]

@ thanks - it’s beautiful!

[@nERVEcenter117]

RCPS3 showed their new ARM builds running on Raspberry Pi 5 at drastically lowered resolutions and settings, but at more than playable framerates. I'd say, go for this video again, but see just how low you have to tweak things to make each game playable! That'll be a fun exercise to test the RP5's chipset.

[@RyanRetro1]

Thanks for the info! I'll have another crack at this soon but this has been mentally draining for days so I'm going to give it a break for at least a few weeks and work on other systems haha

[@nickentros]

Can RPCS3 on rocknix utilize the Turnip drivers? That would be the only thing I could think of that would fix that graphical stuff on Toy Story

[@RyanRetro1]

As far as I know, no. I miss my beloved Turnip 9v2 driver!

[@crestofhonor2349]

For any PS3 game it's good to look at the RPCS3 compatibility rating. Apparently with Toy Story 3 you have to turn on "Strict Rendering Mode" for it to not flicker.

[@RyanRetro1]

Oh I actually didn't know RPCS3 had one so thanks a lot for the information!

[@Call_Me_Emo1]

Can you try emulating *Super Mario and the Rainbow Stars* on the Retriod Pocket 5?

[@TheRealAlpha2]

keep in mind this is super early in the PS3 emulation on lower power devices, I mean they have it running on a Raspberry Pi 5 so there must be room for improvement here. But for now I'd say testing early smaller lighter PSN downloadable games like Lumines or Mushroom wars might run more than triple-A titles like Assassin's Creed or Battlefield, GTA 5 took several minutes to load even on a real PS3, with the way RPCS3 constantly loads shaders on a first time play through, I wouldn't expect much. Maybe some of the lesser games will be running better later, it's a nice potential value boost.

[@RyanRetro1]

Yeah that's why I mixed some AAA games with some light ones to test and the light ones ran somewhat okay!

[@12aguskapo]

RP7 will have decent ps3 emulation, till then i will rock my new rp5

[@AnPc2046]

I seen someone try using winlater and it looked like he fared better doing that instead of using rocknix on the rp5 for PS3 emulation.

[@WiseAcres-i4d]

3:02 may look like it but doesn't sound like it. He runs an infomercial. 9:15 that's a rip off of Precious Moments porcelain figurines.

[@RyanRetro1]

I was a huge fan of ETA Prime a few years ago but his videos are becoming hard to watch. Haha my girlfriend actually made that (and I made one for her too) at a really cute DIY cafe

[@serpserpserp]

So is it the hardware or the state of the emulation software which is the issue of slowdown here?

[@RyanRetro1]

I think in this case it's the state of the software because PS3 emulation is spotty at best even on powerful hardware

[@TheRealAlpha2]

I think it's also a lot about how it set up when it is running on PC, I had one 2D game called Invincible Knight running fairly well a while back on my 10 year old PC but after a couple of updates it dragged due to lots of shader slowdown, I only recently got it playing fairly well on this same computer by using the Asynchronous shader cache option.

[@crestofhonor2349]

I'd say it's a bit of both even though the RP5 vastly out performs the PS3 in raw horsepower but emulation always requires more powerful hardware

[@dm.3145]

I just hope someone makes an arm linux os for Odin 2

[@allbythenumbers123]

Hoepfully one day I will be able to play Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots (PS3) on the Retroid Pocket 5

[@vandalpir9]

I always wonder if Castlevania Harmony of Despair,Metal Gear Peace Walker, or Ridge Racer 7 play on devices

[@TheRealAlpha2]

Castlevania might be rough depending on the emulator and how well it's running more than anything. For Peace walker I'd say play the PSP version for now instead. RR7 also not really viable until the emulator is better optimized.

[@cerezo88]

Live stream tomorrow Ryan?🎉

[@RyanRetro1]

I unfortunately have to delay it until Sunday or Monday.. I'll let everyone know on the Discord and with a Community Post here on KZbin!

[@alexk6071]

thanks! go testing games for xbox360

[@RyanRetro1]

I'd love to!

[@williamadams516]

I can hear it saying, its boiling in here, give me some air conditioning.

[@Omegaretro]

Just wondering why you're testing out PS3 and Xbox etc? The emulation for these systems is known to be terrible on android. The ceiling for these systems is PS2, Windows games using Winlator and some switch games.

[@RyanRetro1]

I've had many requests to do so and we find this interesting to test the limits!

[@skarmachild]

I want a GTA V portable so bad. That and Skyrim would be awesome. I heard Skyrim runs well on this via Switch emu? Maybe Winulator windows emu? Either way im shocked theres no Skyrim Android port

[@RyanRetro1]

Skyrim is working well yes! 😊

[@crestofhonor2349]

That is possible on PC handhelds like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally. Can even be done on the smaller ones like the Ayaneo Air 1s and GPD Win 4

[@Valion13Gaming2]

It sounds silly, but from what I've seen from a few other videos you may have better luck running RPCS3 through Winlator.

[@RyanRetro1]

I'm interested in checking that out too!

[@ajnick3616]

seems like the main issue is the emulator itself. I think, with more development time and optimizations on the emulator, the retroid pocket 5 might axtually be able to run ps3 games to a certain extent.

[@RyanRetro1]

I agree!

[@TheExFatal]

16:08 it's a ps3 thing, a looot of ps3 shooters uset bumpers for shooting and aiming for some reason

[@RyanRetro1]

I much prefer the feel of the triggers for shooting games

[@Bugside]

Back in the day, the ps3 controllers had trigger buttons that weren't shaped like triggers, they curled "away" making your fingers slip, so games were played with the shoulder buttons that at least didn't slip

[@DavidFilskov]

Boot into Linux: I found out how had it added to the Batocera wiki ...

[@DavidFilskov]

How to automatically boot into Linux / skip Android I did this: • Boot Android • Hold down the power button (on-screen buttons appear) • Tap Restart on the screen • Hold Volume - button while it reboots (this opens the 'Loader' menu) • Use Volume +/- to go to 'Switch Boot mode' • Tap the power button ('BOOT MODE' now says 'Loader' instead of 'Android') • Use volume +/- to go to 'Start' • Tap the power button to reboot. Now RP5 will always boot from the SD card ... UNTIL you restart Linux while holding down the Volume - button and change 'Switch Boot mode' back to Android.

[@DavidFilskov]

Btw. - on my RP5 holding volume - or + button while powering On does almost NEVER work. But it always works when it's restarting / rebooting.

[@RyanRetro1]

Thanks for the detailed information! Yes me too holding it while powering on doesn't work - only when restarting!

[@KyngD469]

So.... No PS5 emulation? :(

[@RyanRetro1]

Maybe a Christmas miracle will come 🎅🏻

[@franklyg7788]

Rog ally extreme is the way to go

[@RyanRetro1]

That's twice the price and way bigger but I do agree it looks amazing!

[@berva]

Summary, don't bother.

[@RyanRetro1]

Yup

[@Stunnax757]

As soon as you start the video you say "it is terrible" and then "please don't get your hopes up too much" 😂😂. First of, that goes without saying after the first part and second, I don't want to sit through half an hour of what you've already called terrible. So as a viewer my next course of action is to look at the time stamps and description to see if there is any mention at all of anything running well enough instead of having to watch it all. I'm not bitching, just trying to give feedback. Instead of saying "please don't get your hopes up too much" after already saying it's terrible, maybe mention if there is ANYTHING that can run decent enough or simply say nothing does lol. I still liked the video to support 😊

[@RyanRetro1]

Haha if you don't want to sit through it I totally respect that and that's why I put the disclaimer there - I'd rather you clicked off the video and spent your time well this holiday season rather than waste your time if it's not for you; that's better than the engagement on this video. I appreciate the comment for engagement and I'll add timestamps now :)

[@Stunnax757]

@RyanRetro1 well, spoiler alert? Did you find any games worthwhile?

[@RyanRetro1]

@@Stunnax757 haha yes there are a couple of working games here!

[@hakman239]

Try ps4 just for sh*s and giggles

[@RyanRetro1]

I will if I can!

[@dm.3145]

If it's releases for arm linux then he can lol

[@MobileDecay]

I clicked for the music box. ☺️

[@RyanRetro1]

Glad you liked it!

[@MobileDecay]

​@@RyanRetro1The guitar was awesome too. What guitar do you have. My favorite one is my red PRS. 😁

[@RyanRetro1]

@@MobileDecay Thanks! It's a cheap Harley Benton one. I bought it just because it looks nice but it actually sounds and plays great too, surprisingly! I love PRS guitars ^^

[@MobileDecay]

@RyanRetro1 Oh I have a Harley Benton. I wanna play it now! 😁