I have both the 135H and 155H in-hand, what do you want to see?
@RemTilak6 ай бұрын
A long video about emulation and PC gaming benchmarks on the 155H.
@cosmicgamingunlimited6 ай бұрын
135H. Budget pc hand helds interest me. I would like to see how this compares to the Z1 non-extreme.
@ozzierobmorales6 ай бұрын
Just more content whatever you would like to show us . This thing looks sick!
@yasec-life6 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see a side by side comparison of emulation and gaming.
@HPPrintervx4p5q6 ай бұрын
make a video on the old bittboy instead
@DrewDragoon6 ай бұрын
Incredible work. The community is blessed to have you. It was interesting seeing the teardown and how the d-pad and shoulder buttons work. The sizable speakers explains the decent audio. The benchmarks must have took you a while. Keep hustling and grinding mate, you make quality videos and eventually more people will take notice.
@axyheave3 ай бұрын
What a nice comment 👍
@macky102296 ай бұрын
Nice presentation. You deserved more views
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate that! 🙏
@retrohandhelds6 ай бұрын
11/10 DAD VIDEO. All the puns, all the quality. I don't need this, but i'm glad its an option! -Stubbs.
@mcintyrevxqАй бұрын
Managed to get one of these new for £360 in the UK; this review sold it for me at such a low price.
@retrotechdadАй бұрын
Nice deal! It's well worth it at that price. 🙏
@zomg346Ай бұрын
Got this one for 400 here.was gonna ally x even ordered it but CBA waiting for stocks sold out everywhere.its not that bad with overboost
@kurdapio2k6Ай бұрын
How is the gaming experience?
@zomg346Ай бұрын
@@kurdapio2k6 garbage half the time controller input in-game don't work.i returned it and ordered ally x 😂😂
@kurdapio2k6Ай бұрын
@@zomg346 i save my money for an Ally tnx.
@gsprings436 ай бұрын
Ordered one from Best buy,,,, hopefully msi and intel unlock's the performance in this device
@tylersbiggestflowerboy3 ай бұрын
how is it? im considering buying one
@gsprings433 ай бұрын
@@tylersbiggestflowerboy there have been updates,,,I noticed better frame rates,,,I play asseto corsa,,,American,,,and euro truck sim mostly,,,and they run well on the claw
@ardyyambao19 күн бұрын
new subscriber here. nice video. most review about this handheld are all bad reviews, on your part is attention to detail. really enjoy your review. hope you make another review on this MSI Claw after 6 months.
@retrotechdad18 күн бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate that! I do have plans to check back in at the 6 month mark, I actually marked it in the calendar after I finished this video!
@aprilhoang24775 ай бұрын
really good video, love all the details! i hope with the new updates we can see better performance. out of all the handhelds, the Claw just feels the best.
@Briancansen4 ай бұрын
that ultra 5 performance sounds great. love the ergo on this!
@jvabbdac6 ай бұрын
Oh man! Z1 extreme its awesome!
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
Still amazing almost a year later 🔥🔥
@justswitched88416 ай бұрын
Yup got the ally and legion go. Msi made a big mistake choosing intel
@MatiX4156 ай бұрын
@@justswitched8841 intel paid msi to use their chips
@ahrjaydee70016 ай бұрын
Incredible details, thanks for the awesome review.
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words and for watching! 🙏
@pulsargmng6 ай бұрын
Intel never fail to disappoint.
@Pneuma33016 ай бұрын
you're trolling 😂
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
🤪 and we really need them to not disappoint, competition is a good thing.
@jheithaus36 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Love the power charts for cyberpunk.
@KarlParl4 ай бұрын
Can you update with the new drivers?
@KwangChan-jg9hd4 ай бұрын
I decided to get one since I really wanted an Intel processor gaming handheld. To be honest, my experience with it has been okay so far. But I'm still expecting the upcoming driver updates will allow the Claw to perform a bit more smoothly when I run Hogwarts Legacy on it. Great video by the way.
@michaelbenny6596 ай бұрын
This video looks like you put a lot of work and effort into it. But how come it’s longer than 5 minutes?
@giopiczonjr473216 күн бұрын
may i ask to make video part 2 with updated,i just wanna see how the performance work on latest updated bios. thank you sir!
@rubyssss65655 ай бұрын
I think butons annd sizes depend on personal feeling and preferences, for me is not much differences. The claw's chassis and display looks really good and high quality, I really care about the display performance. For gaming tests, it looks does great job and smooth enough for me, lol. I believe MSI will keep update their CPU and GPU, so the performance should improve in the future.
@cho-v4n4 ай бұрын
I messed around with one of these today. I'll stick with my ally. Thanks rob 😁
@bushwhookie13345 күн бұрын
Can you do this with new updates and boost on plz
@NFreddplayz4 ай бұрын
Got the steam deck and rog ally z1... These entry level PC handhelds are worth the try...😌💯
@deadpixelz3 ай бұрын
Do i get the msi ultra 5 (7 isn't available) I really love the look of it ,but so many bad reviews.Is the claw really that bad or just geeks moaning on numbers ?
@retrotechdad3 ай бұрын
It has a lot of positives, it's biggest issue was/still is price to performance compared to the competition. If that is a non-issue and you just want to relax and play some games and don't get care about the numbers, then definitely! What are you looking to play?
@deadpixelz3 ай бұрын
@@retrotechdad Thanks for the reply,i've a switch oled so not worried about simulators,I like diablo ,cod,f1,hades,fifa all sorts really.Is the ultra 5 claw still a good option .thanks
@marcelo165 ай бұрын
The product that will make sure no other company will ever use Meteor Lake in a gaming handheld ever again
@davidfaustino44766 ай бұрын
The Spiderman in the thumbnail is letting you know how many fps you can expect on the Claw when playing Spiderman.
@nitinkastil51456 ай бұрын
The other handheld that uses charging set up like MSI claw is ROG Ally.
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
The ROG Ally does not use two cables. The MSI Claw ships with a power block that also uses a 3-prong cable similar to what you'd see on a laptop.
@nitinkastil51456 ай бұрын
@@retrotechdad that depends on which country you resides, you may not have two cables, but Indian variant has two charging cable just like you get in laptop charger .
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
Interesting, they probably do that because it's easier to swap out depending on the region.
@Shsishsgsk25 күн бұрын
i guess we have new budget king ultra 5
@retrotechdad25 күн бұрын
The prices are really solid right now, it’s well worth it!
@michaelh39675 ай бұрын
Have you tried playing Batman Arkham Knight? I can’t get it to open on epic games.
@axyheave3 ай бұрын
Did you get it working
@michaelh39673 ай бұрын
@@axyheave yes. There is a patch needed torun Arkham knight. I am now having an issue getting Ratchet and Clank to run on the MSI Claw.
@J.Wick.25 күн бұрын
Easy sub. Great video. Failed product I'm afraid. But I would like to see intel get more performant. We're beginning to see what a one horse race will do with the ryzen 9000 series I fear. Waiting to see strix point in handhelds next myself. Until then, steam deck it is for me.
@retrotechdad22 күн бұрын
Exactly, competition is always a good thing for consumers!
@clem98082 ай бұрын
Hello just pre-ordered 1 at the cheapest price. Means I still have few more days to cancel it. I can tell that you're an expert in device's internal builds (whatever you call it). Do you think the msi claw are very well-built internally, and can physically last 5-10 years like most laptops? Cause I have a boring job , and planning to use this for 5-6 hours a day.
@JesuStRanger26 күн бұрын
I know I'm a lil bit late, but for 5-10 year games it just enough
@alexygo424316 күн бұрын
If you'll be getting an Ultra 5 135H MSI Claw for around 450 USD would that be a good deal?
@retrotechdad16 күн бұрын
Yes, I think that's a far better price for the device. You might want to shop around since there will be a few options at that price especially when going second hand.
@alexygo424315 күн бұрын
@@retrotechdad the 2nd hand market in my area is really not the greatest but I have been able to see ROG Ally Z1 Extremes for the same price, only problem is the SD slots are all not working (not that I would use it but I am just not confident on buying 2nd hand with issues already on board) I'd go over the deals first and would try to make a decision asap. Thank you for the reply!
@KyleRuggles6 ай бұрын
Great review, Rob! Major pass for me, at least it's a good.. ish first try for Intel? Maybe in a couple of years they'd match what AMD has today lol.
@pepesaurus623819 күн бұрын
Do you recomend it for 450 bucks?
@retrotechdad18 күн бұрын
Yea, I think it's very solid for that price.
@MalcolmLim6 ай бұрын
i wonder if the claw's battery could fit in the ally? size wise it looks like it could fit
@clem98082 ай бұрын
Is the usb c port soldered in , Or is it easily replaceable?
@rongngudotАй бұрын
May i ask What is the tool to adjust the tdp lower than 20w?
@chrisboucher28136 ай бұрын
I wonder if it's possible to put those rbg buttons in the Rog Ally 🤔
@TinTalon6 ай бұрын
Another great video. Not sure the Claw is going to me for me. Think i will pass on this one for now.
@ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti28616 ай бұрын
That thing is 900 bucks in some places in europe... The base version.
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
Yea, the price is absolutely bonkers. I hope we see a big drop like the Z1 ROG Ally.
@justswitched88416 ай бұрын
Yet performs worse than amd that is cheaper
@ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti28616 ай бұрын
@@retrotechdadin afraid that even at higher wats this gets beat by the deck. I honestly think that this Is garbage. I Wish they sticked to z1e then It wouldve made sense.
@SoloLynx6 ай бұрын
ridiculous do not buy this dog water product put together in months just get a steam deck lcd is very cheap now
@betag24cn6 ай бұрын
imagine paying 900 dollars for a msi tablet, that comes woth a intel igpu, i think that only reviewers will buy this crap
@gumbyx846 ай бұрын
Any chance you could check if the analog sticks on the Claw are compatible with the Ally?
@davidfaustino44766 ай бұрын
Yep I want to know this too. His "teardown" was just removing the back plate..
@cqllel51866 ай бұрын
MSi CLAW at 30W is weaker than Steam Deck OLED at 15W and less AMD Master Race
@mclovinthewalrus23756 ай бұрын
The Steam Deck OLED beats the Ultra 7 in a lot of games, i imagine it wreaks the Ultra 5 easily. This Ultra 5 should be worth no more than 350 dollars lol
@JMPants29 күн бұрын
You gave an inferior product a superior review.
@jafniazmi6 ай бұрын
Can FC24 support with Intel Arc graphic?
@TRX25EX6 ай бұрын
It came too early to the market, it does have potential, now I have Deck OLED + Ally + my One X Player X1 155H coming now.... I can see Intel having potential but will take time, by that time we will have Ally 2, I can't believe until today we don't have AI that does driver optimisations to save time
@betag24cn6 ай бұрын
no it doesnt, intel is improvising a gpu division, this at best wilo end up being third in a two horse race
@TRX25EX6 ай бұрын
@@betag24cn it does currently A750-A770 best value GPU out there.... Even Linus made a video and showed why, it was 3050 level at first now it's around 3070 level!!!!
@Gorilla_Jones6 ай бұрын
The correct answer is Steam Deck OLED. Without haptic touchpads it is irrelevant.
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
Good thing we have LOTS of options today!
@Gorilla_Jones6 ай бұрын
@@retrotechdad Indeed!
@cqllel51866 ай бұрын
Yeah a PC handheld without touchpad is like a laptop without a track pad. Nobody wants to be forced to use the stick, get a mouse, or use touch screen on a PC OS
@davidfaustino44766 ай бұрын
Touchscreen for the win geniuses.
@OblivionPrime6 ай бұрын
wish we could swap the allys battery with the claws
@Gh0styGames6 ай бұрын
Common RTD W🎉
@Le_Mon9Ай бұрын
Do you think it's a good value at $430?
@retrotechdadАй бұрын
Yes, I think that's a VERY fair price! 🔥
@DelightfulVideoGames-do3zm26 күн бұрын
I'm gonna buy this console for NBA 2K25 😊
@seppeseppe-jq7nr6 ай бұрын
new driver !
@暇人-t6j6 ай бұрын
In other channel when they compared Claw and Steam Deck Oled, SD Oled is outperforming Claw 155H in 30w TDP compared to 15w TDP of SD Oled in AAA games fps with same settings. 😂 Then the Claw’s frequent tearing is still very visible as ever.😂
@JerrardJDDavis-gy9hh3 ай бұрын
Will It Play PS2 Or Gamecube
@sneakybobinson32526 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it will be cursed by Intel drivers...
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
It's already slow going, there hasn't been a new update since end of last month. 🤦♂️
@sneakybobinson32526 ай бұрын
@@retrotechdad I am not surprised... After owning a GPD WIN 3 I pretty much wrote off Intel in applications like this. Maybe they will make a comeback though!
@EvaWan-ie1hg4 ай бұрын
Want an Intel handheld to run Hogwarts Legacy, the ultra core looks good and the battery life is nice. Will wait for more updates on MSI software to see a smoother performance
@drew34886 ай бұрын
The performance just isn't there yet with the 135 or 155 the steam deck does more frames at half the watts. Msi dropped the ball everyone
@danielsmith29396 ай бұрын
Looks the same as the Rog ally
@betag24cn6 ай бұрын
stop! its the CLAW
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
🤪🤪
@chriskim55356 ай бұрын
So much more expensive than Steamdeck yet worse in performance......
@MalcolmLim6 ай бұрын
those buying this unit good luck - to access the SSD you have to disassemble the daughterboard..what an annoying design.
@Gh0styGames6 ай бұрын
MSi naw 😵
@Saschabrix5 ай бұрын
Msi FLAW….
@mlnima6 ай бұрын
I am sure it will break in 2 years when the low quality plastic is dry or expired 😂
@zomg3466 ай бұрын
Garbage 😂😂
@TheMasterwitcher6 ай бұрын
1. It looks horrible to me 2. The price will make it flop af 3. Hell nah
@retrotechdad6 ай бұрын
Priced to fail and not compete, unfortunately.
@TheMasterwitcher6 ай бұрын
@retrotechdad absolutely. Just don't get why are they being this thick. Unnecessary waste of production money if it isn't going to make it back. Also, your content is amazing and you always cover what I need and expect that I would want to know before making a decision to purchase anything. Thank you for your hard work ^^