Return Of Grog! The Legend Of Vox Machina Season 2 Episode 9

[@YaBoyRockLee]

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[@mynameisd2849]

Pike is 30-ish her hair turning white is a backstory thing

[@notsomagicalmike7429]

@@aceofspade2120 Pike was in her 30s-40s in the campaign(Ashley never gave an exact age), Scanlan has always been the oldest of the cast, it just never seemed like it(except for the whole daughter thing) also the white dragon thing isnt how the hair happened.

[@MicahWo]

@@aceofspade2120 Scanlan started the campaign at 69 and was 70 by the end, Ashley stated pikenwas in her 30s, she was still a teen/young adult when she met Grog and they basically grew up together. Goliath's don't live that long.

[@juicejooos]

@@aceofspade2120 Actually, Pike's hair turned white after she got resurrected from dying to a Glabrezu that infiltrated Emon's court.

[@Michael-bn1oi]

​@@aceofspade2120 I think you are only correct about Scanlan...why even comment when you don't know any of the answers?

[@zippomage]

@@aceofspade2120 looks like they actually retconned the original story about the white dragon and replaced it with the demon fight in Uriel's palace.

[@SquishFlint]

Grogs soft spot for gnomes is everything to me. I love it so much

[@elfbreath]

I remember there was a time in the campaign Matt described a bunch of kids climbing all over Grog. And Grog was uneasy at first and said something like "they're really little 😬" and Vex comforted him by saying "kinda like gnomes" and Grog GASPED and was like "yeah, I'm ok with this now"

[@SquishFlint]

@@elfbreath omg I think I remember that 😭💜 so cute

[@undeadgames309]

So if you watch all the herd and who they kill youll notice other members of the herd killing innocent civillians who are unarmed. Grog is only ever shown killing armed opponents (Which doesnt make it good but definitly not as bad). When his cousin proposes killing Pop Pop, he says "Hes not a fighter, hes just an old fella" which means hes not interested in killing unarmed civilians that cant defend themselves. It means that Grog is naturally good at heart but due to the culture he grew up around ended up doing horrible things until he realized that he probably shouldnt have been doing these things in hte first place and rebelled.

[@flaminyawn]

Yeah. He loves violence, and doesn't think twice about the morality of it if he's up against someone who's fighting back, but when he sees a tiny, unarmed gnome who can't defend themself being threatened, he knows instinctively that it isn't right.

[@phatman274]

FYI, in most D&D lore, dragons have honorifics/titles they give themselves usually to instill fear in "lesser" being. In the case of the Chroma Conclave, it's Thordak the Cinder King Brimscythe the Iron Storm Vorugal the Frigid Doom Raishan, the Diseased Deceiver Umbrasyl, the Hope Devourer

[@PuffyCloud_aka_puffeclaude]

I've said it before, always listen to your girl here.

[@devildham]

Don't give them no help 😂. They gon learn one of these days

[@devildham]

Dr. Dranzel is based on Doctor Dre. In the campaign he is old friends with Scanlan Shorthalt....Scanlan is based on Slim Shady.

[@elbruces]

As Sam said "I put so little thought in this character that I just thought up a random musician, pulled up wikipedia, and typed up his history as Scanlan's."

[@carlotacosta9193]

Seeing Kevdak completely beat up Grog was painful

[@jescer8859]

Awesome reaction team, this series is goated. Grog's people conduct themselves if a interesting way. Their views on life seems similar to how a lion pride would act. The pride doesn't care if an antelope dies, as its death will further the pride. Often lions look for the old or enfeebled as they are weaker, offering a reward for reduced effort. Grog's realization that he shouldn't kill Grandpa Trickfoot was like a break from instinct into rationalization of right and wrong.

[@sandpiperr]

The traumatic brain injury idea is an interesting observation! I'm not sure if they did that in the stream, but it's a good idea. Grog was never supposed to have been very bright. Even before his injury he couldn't read or write and doesn't understand numbers all that well. However, the injury could definitely have made it worse.

[@mahmii0174]

I dont know. Nothing about past Grog tells me he was any smarter than he is now, lol. It's probably also cuz he's just that "not very smart brute" archetype

[@Strife159Highloch]

Until this episode I expected them to skip the bit about why Pike has white hair. But yeah, Gnomes live a long time. Depending on the setting, they can live to be like 300. In another setting they don't die of old age, they die when they run out of things to keep them occupied. They literally die of boredom. They can live for a few hundred years if they find something they love to do.

[@Strife159Highloch]

Also Scanlan is canonically 69 years old lmao

[@devildham]

All that is true...but her hair is white because she died and it turned white when she was resurrected. Pikes in her late 30s to mid 40s

[@Strife159Highloch]

@@devildham I intentionally didn't mention WHY her hair was white. Its, ya know, a spoiler?

[@Strife159Highloch]

@@ChaoticTabris I intentionally didn't mention WHY her hair was white. Its, ya know, a spoiler?

[@ChaoticTabris]

@@Strife159Highloch Is it? It was pre-stream and probably won't be mentioned in the show.

[@TenebrousFilms]

"You've never played boulder parchment shears?" Pike's hair turned white after she was bisected by a glabrezu and resurrected. Also, Scanlan was originally a member of Dr. Dranzel's troupe before joining VM... speaking of, he is once again swayed by a child. As for Kevdak, I think all that time with the vestige *has* made him a coward. Of course, taking him down is why Grog wanted to keep Craven Edge in the first place.

[@damianpryde2777]

So pumped every time for your reaction to these. Much love!

[@YaBoyRockLee]

Glad you like them!

[@lydia272]

That was Pike with black hair. Pike's hair turns white because of [REDACTED].

[@thehorse8056]

No that was Pike, her hair was dark before she joined VM

[@devildham]

You mean before the stream started. She was already in the group when it happened

[@Ziaotic]

@@devildham that's still correct. before she joined VM she had dark hair

[@franklangston3004]

Grog is a goliath in dnd they live as long as human, Pike is a gnome and can live past 300, so yeah Pike is young (in her 30) if Grog is still alive die to the timeline, like someone else said in the comment, I thought Pike was old too until I watch this episode

[@EThomasVerum]

I do think Grog's story is one of the most interesting ones. I think you will really like the next episode.

[@elbruces]

Duke Vedmire from season 1, the guy who Scanlan burned his house down? He was also a half-giant like Grog. He was a dick too, but he was educated.

[@devildham]

13:21 Grog was never smart. Kevdak beat his ass, but that didn't make him any dumber.

[@fraidnaught9067]

I actually don't remember if Grog's uncle with the facial scar Mufassa'd Grog's dad, but it sounds right.

[@jdogx211]

Pikes white hair comes with a story: way I understand it, she was pnce cut CLEAN IN TWO! ✌ But, SOMETHING put her back together and that is when her hair turned white.

[@clownzzz4837]

In the first episode back in season 1, it was established that Vex and Vax only cared about themselves, so why would their father think they weren't still like that. He wasn't there to see their growth as people / heroes.

[@YaBoyRockLee]

Preach for em

[@sandpiperr]

Yeah well, he's also the reason they were like that so he's still in no position to judge!

[@clownzzz4837]

@@sandpiperr Without giving too much away... Possible spoiler below... They were raised by their mother. He didn't know they existed until after she died (when they were 10?). I believe they only lived with dear old dad for 3-4 years.

[@YaBoyRockLee]

@@sandpiperr my thoughts exactly. While I wasn’t gonna debate.

[@Kenzo411able]

Grog vs Kevdak was inspirational as fk...chills throughout

[@LilGamez21]

Dude next episode was so awesome I loved it.

[@cynicallysalty4592]

I'm so hyped for ya'll to watch the next episode!!

[@laurahart1337]

Grog and Trinket are the lovable bears. ❤❤❤

[@jordanpeterson5140]

I dunno if he's a bear. 1) He's hairless and 2) he canonically likes tacos.

[@laurahart1337]

@@jordanpeterson5140 1) Does that mean that Fuzzy Wuzzy also isn't a bear? 2) 🤣😂🤣

[@jordanpeterson5140]

@@laurahart1337 ...I'll conceded to point #1

[@laurahart1337]

@@jordanpeterson5140 Hey, I concede to point #2, though that had me laughing out of my work chair and now my coworkers think I'm crazy

[@MichaelaEvans]

That's a very interesting take on the twins' dad. Their half sister was very happy to see them so maybe he did only say good things about them 🤔😊 If you have faith, i will to😌

[@jdogx211]

I do think the sons right. UR-however you say the Black Dragons name- doesn't even consider them servents, treats them like dirt, murders them CASUALLY, no sane individual who values themselves would put up with this. But the Father is also right, he knows what picking a fight with that MONSTER is going to cost.

[@cloud0598]

So in the actual campaign pike had dark hair but then she got killed and resurrected which turned her hair white, there's more to the story but that's the gist

[@Ziaotic]

why are you niggas so caviler with spoilers

[@cloud0598]

@@Ziaotic how is that a spoiler? It happens near the beginning of the campaign, u know the part between s1e3-e4, also I'm white I would prefer the term honky lmao

[@MajorLacerations]

this one was missing from your playlist for some reason just a heads up

[@nox_tech_]

grog didn't get concussed into a goofball - dude excels in battle, but didn't have much means or purpose to show his goofy side, nor any means to learn, so his low intelligence has many opportunities to reveal itself. serious dude with a silly side is very easily a thing. on the more literal meta level, travis went with a low intelligence barbarian because his aims in the game were to simply punch/stab/kill things and make money. when matt started moving the story towards grog's arc here, travis himself was just as antsy as grog was here about having to be the focal character. travis is a great team player, and it definitely takes a smart man to play an amazing idiot like grog, but dude kept things simple for grog, so i'd have my doubts that he'd weave in what i'd think would be a complicated detail. and just to make sure it's spelled out, pike's hair went white after a pre-stream part of the campaign. while i think it could easily not be included in the show, it's interesting backstory, so it might be used in later seasons, though idk how they'd include a flashback. wilhand was the one almost attacked by grog. even though they've a family of trickfoots, it was just pike living with wilhand before grog joined them as a big little bro. so that was pike and wilhand in wilhand's locket. and per grog's own backstory blurb that they included during the campaign: "Exiled from his herd, it was then that the relative of the very gnome he fought to save, saved him. It was the kindness of a gnome cleric named Pike that healed Grog, bringing him back from death's edge. And they have remained close friends ever since."

[@YaBoyRockLee]

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[@munkeysama]

Just a heads up, this video is missing from your vox machina play list

[@TKZells16]

I don't think the beating turned him goofier. Grog has an intelligence of 6 (famously) and I think spending time with Pike brought out his goofy side.

[@Deined]

You guys sure do have a lot more faith in the caring abilities of certain parental figures than almost everyone else I've seen watch the show. 🤨😄 EDIT: Also, 😏 at 10:40.

[@YaBoyRockLee]

Lol

[@Khailward]

Pike's hair was originally brown, but she actually died pre-stream. She was resurrected, but the stress of it all turned her hair white.

[@morgannorth8766]

Fun fact, Pike's hair turned white from Marie Antoinette Syndrome, where the hair turns white due to trauma. Which is the same reason Percy and Cassandra's hair are both white (or a white streak for Cassandra) as well

[@thomasdahlberg5920]

Yeah. . . . Wouldn't that be funny?

[@Eichaaa]

First