"Return of the Turn": Straight Skis

"New soft fat skis make skiing so easy. Skiing was so much more difficult and skillful on straight skis. I really had no choice but to put my money where my mouth was." -Marcus Caston

[@at066000]

Just took my son out to Colorado to meet my dad for one of the best weeks ever! My dad is 70, 5’9” and still skis on Rossi 4s 200 cm. It was funny awesome how in every lift line for a week someone had to say “best skis ever”. My dad knows how to bend them though too > carves like a craftsman and still catching more air than most teenagers. It’s the skier

[@humanbeing2420]

I loved my Rossignol 3G's. They were 203 cm I think. In 1996 someone at Mt. Alyeska offered me $500 to give him my pair on the spot. I declined. They were obsolete within a couple of years.

[@alanroach1565]

Rossi 4S's with a K ( the Teal Green One) were the BEST in the 80's, but I liked the innovated version better the 9S's in the early 90's! (205's for me just upgraded in 2021)

[@evanfinch4987]

@@alanroach1565 bless this comment

[@RobCummings]

When I worked at Alta, 1980-81 season, a popular bumper sticker in the canyon read, "Long skis, guns and Jesus." I was just an article of faith that long skis worked better. The best skiers on the mountain that season were mostly on 210s. They'd ride them in everything -- bumps, chutes, and deep powder -- and where the long boards really excelled was going fast. I've tried the short skis; they're a lot easier to ski in bumps and they go pretty good in powder. But, if you're into going fast, you're going to need that long edge to hold real speed.

[@hardrockminer-50]

I was 12 when I learned to ski on 205's. 55 years ago. Still ski on 200 Dynastars. Bought those new in 2000 for $20.

[@TomášTisovský]

Marcus Caston you are the best skier in the world. The video convinced me. This is the best timing of power transfer to the ski in the arc in the world. That's why I ski telemark skiing on Blizzard.

[@KompletterGeist]

The amount of style they convey on their skis is just....man i wish i could do that

[@NVGTO]

You're right, they really have style, they ooze coolness without overdoing it, you can just see they're having fun without caring too much about the overkill tech stuff, yet they are super technical. Love it.

[@jondavwal13]

I stopped skiing in the 90s and just started again. I was a REALLY good skier and I was terrified the first day back that I would overdo it and kill myself. I didn't realize the new skis basically gave one magical powers on anything and everything you wanted to ski. When I hear people say that these skis are for carving and those skis are for powder, etc., try skiing on long chopsticks in powder like we used to. I'm not so sure if I would like skiing so much now if it weren't for the equipment making it easier for me, but I do notice there are a hell of a lot more decent skiers on the mountain the there used to be. I took a few lessons and my teacher exclaimed "wow, old school" after he watched me the first time. I've spent the last 4 months trying to update to not look like something found in a museum. I do notice the problem with going fast and straight. I thought it was me being old. LOL. Great video.

[@thunderstruck8087]

I went skiing one day in my "old" ski clothes (stretch pants and Demetre sweater). The young kids thought it was cool. One guy asked me if I bought them in a thrift shop. I said no, I bought them brand new, many years ago! Don't be embarrassed of your old ski clothes - wear them!

[@darrenkastl8160]

Jonathan Wallach I agree with thunderstruck!

[@jondavwal13]

FWIW I meant my skiing technique was something found in a museum. My old ski clothes are long gone. I had fun buying new stuff. Boy are things warmer now or what?

[@crabjoe]

Bwahahahaha! I stopped skiing in the early 90's too. But I took my old self with my old equipment out a couple weeks ago. Everyone, well I think everyone loved seeing me out there. They were like.. man, those are old.. Where did you get such long skis... etc.. Had a great time!

[@andredegraaf1643]

@@thunderstruck8087 I restarted skiing 2020/2021 season after a 12 year layoff. I was retro when I stopped skiing because I hated the fat ski revolution. I was a decent bump skier but yes this first season back I stuck to the groomers because I am probably 30 pounds heavier and definitely out of shape. You know what? I was still able to ski fairly decent and yes I looked like time stood still (which it has for me in the 1990s). I was on my 200cm Dynastar S4 Coupes, Marker M54 bindings and Salomon Sensifit boots. Oh and all the latest clothes from Roffe, Demetre, Bolle and nice real ski hat. No stinking helmet and spherical goggles. At least I looked like an individual on the slopes. Not a helmeted bug eyed clone.

[@michaelbrownlee9497]

Such a great feeling to be able to ski on stiff 205s in control. Years of practice, lessons and conditioning. Skiiers use to cram into theaters to watch skilled daredevils in warren millers films. The new skiis are like life. Its easy to be good.

[@darrenkastl8160]

Michael Brownlee DITTOS! from the great white North!

[@michaelbrownlee9497]

@@darrenkastl8160 note the ski apparel, i once saw a guy wearing a garbage bag and duct tape, with vokyl p9. In those days (88) heli skiing on "stand by" was 50 bucks for local yahoos out of banff.

[@berndog3]

Still have a pair of long skinnies from the early 90's. Stöckli Laser RS. Used them all over the mountain and even instructed on them. Held an edge like being on rails.

[@PetrVaVoom]

berndog3 the Stöckli stormrider 88 still does that :)

[@kayakutah]

In 1969 I weighed 135 pounds and raced slalom - bamboo gates - on 207cm VR17's....boy, was that ever stupid! They were too long even by 1969 standards. Now, I'm on telemark gear and my quiver goes from 185 Armada JJ's for more than about 14" of new snow, to 172 Rustler 10's for 5-14" and 165 (!) Vantage 85's for spring "bump days". Technology, and "empty nest" have made it all possible. And yes, I am compensating! At my age, if you're not cheating, you're not trying.

[@Lehmann108]

VR-17's! Loved those skis. They had the "cracked" edges in 1970 or '71. I also loved the Rossignal Strato 102's. I raced slalom and GS with those. I ran downhills on some brutally stiff Head skis at 220 in length. Tracked like a train!

[@theepicridecom]

My dad still shreds on his 1984 Volkl 197’s. His stoke is just as high as anyone on the hill!

[@northgategmfleetmanager8137]

P9 Gemini's?

[@cwfusto]

This just goes to show it’s not always the equipment, but the talent in the user! Yes!!!

[@tainicon4639]

c wiils If they were on modern equipment they would be insane

[@alanroach1565]

Agree, just got off of Rossi 9S's (205's) and onto Blizzard Brahma's (177's). Only difference is easier to negotiate bumps and the cut up powder, otherwise I can't tell the difference. I skied the Rossi's from 1995 till 2022 and I know how to "operate them"

[@cwfusto]

@@alanroach1565 I used to ski RD Bad Dogs 204’s. Now I only sky the 180 Brahma’s and Rustler 10. My humble opinion, Blizzard is the best ski on the market currently.

[@alanroach3692]

@@cwfusto thanks mr. Willis for your reply it took me about five days to dial in those brahmas but I'm good with them now

[@richardault]

Haven't ski'd in a while myself, just came out of a period where I was splitboarding on a jones... supah sweet solution, but my fav quiver from the 90's was: Blizz V20 Thermo's (207), Volants (several as my housemate repped them), Volkl Renntiger's aka Bend-Tigers (203), some Volkl super g ski's the VP19 RSX (213) and the piece de resistance, the limited production Volkl Comp DH boards coming in at 223cm... All such sick ski's! Thanks for the vid that brought me back to those Mammoth days!

[@MonkeyDWoofy]

I used my dads boots skis and poles from 95 or so, I used to ski a lot and I was at mt hood ski bowl this last weekend, I’m 6’2 and the skis were about 6’3 , I got a lot of looks but man it felt so good to ski again! I was hauling ass and hitting a few side jumps, they are sharp as shit on the insides and definitely sliced too hard a few times, it reignited my skiing passion for sure

[@moto1p1]

I still have my Kastle 220 Super G's from the mid-'80s. I'll break em' out every now and then; when the bumps get big enough.

[@snowleopard4689]

i've skied on Kastle RX and they are capable of obscene speeds. also, they transform your legs into hydraulic presses :)

[@Whoozit1]

Taking my from-new 200cm Dynastar Verticals out and wearing my original Nevica fluorescent jacket during spring skiing, is one of the highlights of my season. Seriously fast groomed skiing. Bumps, powder... not so much!

[@freefloppa6455]

I would love a Comeback of the straight skies! It would be so great!

[@lhasalynn2091]

Oh, Bliss!! Being from the generation of longer, more stable, narrow, straight skis---I contend that it was THOSE skis that forced me to take the time--and lessons-- to learn exactly HOW to REALLY ski! Beautiful carving buddies that I felt so secure on. I still own 3 pairs of 'oldiers', that I can't bear to give up! WHAT a difference ---and a BIG, BAD difference, about ten plus years ago, when I took up the offer at a Demo tent to 'discover a new world of fun'---so they said---on the shorter, lighter, wider (dare I say "Parabolics"!!), so easy to turn and ski---(was it a 'Solomon' demo I tried??). "You'll never go back," the promised, as I headed for the chairlift. Well...I DID go back----right after the first 2 runs! Not only did I have to change my style of skiing to enjoy these newbies----but I wobbled all over the snow, finding it so tough to cut into my favorite steady, carving moves and just 'ride the ski'. For myself----I thought that both long and short carving turns were the beauty and joy of skiing! (We of the Baby Boomers generation.) I think what still bothers me more than anything is watching new skiers just 'swishing' their bodies around---NO memory EVER of carving--and thinking that they are really 'steaming' down the mountain. I actually LOVED the step by step learning techniques of just what and why your ski is demanding that you learn a little about just what 'turns' really are! I found the whole new way of skiing so lacking in WHY I liked to ski so much. (I finally settled for the heavier more stable Volkls, which came very close to my older style of getting down the mountain. Believe me---I do not believe that there is only ONE ski or ONE way to ski it---and if you have having fun---that's all that matters. But for me---I was really happy on my 1970's -- 1980's models---and actually LIKED being required to take the time to learn good technique! (Gotta admit, though----my long, straight, stable buddies were HELL in powder. LOLOL!!) I loved your Blizzard ad! I've skied them, too.....and loved them.

[@aurorab5356]

Still skiing on K2 Merlins, love them! People think I'm crazy. Whatever, they're fast and stable.

[@Skamanda]

I only picked something to replace my Merlin Vs last year. Super good skis, and I'll probably still throw some new bindings on them this summer. Ski what works!

[@johns3106]

I skied on 210's and 205's for many years and thought they were the "right" skis for me...then the ski revolution started, and my skis got progressively shorter and wider...now I would never want to go back to those old stiff, narrow sinkers that were hard to turn in any sort of narrow shot...I tend to be a bit of a Luddite, but modern skis are WAY more fun!

[@gaffeltroll]

I have my days with vintage skis. Rossignol strato. Genuine product from the 60s. Oh yes. If you have 30 years on such skis, you know what you are doing.

[@PR8st0r]

I realy miss my straight old school ski, I enjoyed them far more than my modern ski. Realy missing the awesome feel of the old skis.

[@sledgehammer8146]

I just bought a pair of old school straight dynastar 200s off CL - $20. Fun fun fun, and fast.

[@picardmadeoff1068]

Thanks for bringing back the hop turn or Hi Mom turn as we called it in Summit County back in the 80s. For you young whippersnappers I had a pair of Thermos back in the 80s mounted with Silverettas for my backcountry setup with Dachstein rear-entry AT boots. I miss the real carvers back then and the bumps of that era versus the terrain that is dictated by the wide and slide skis of today.

[@thomashoffmann8960]

Wahre Worte, ..😔

[@gaffeltroll]

Fantastic. I myself have a pair of Blizzard Firebird competition from 1984. Like the skis of Franz Klammer (84). I love them.

[@filmic1]

My Pa got me a pair of Kazama's when I was a kid. Loved them. Skied them till they broke. I pulled the heel out one time, then they cracked. Lasted me 3 seasons. My Blizzards were 200's, I was 5'8" at the time. Americana plate bindings on them.

[@teleroi]

Still on my 201s, tele, Riva Cables , bumps, pow, I don't give a damn. Kicking ass and taking names. YEW!

[@michaelknox6955]

Yeah... I was a long-board skier... I like GS 210-213 and they were awesome in all conditions... I'm a tall guy and love the speed displacement of the long ski. Short boards are for kids, or gays on trays .!

[@danblumel]

Right on !! long boards rule.

[@SKRAPNOID]

I endorse this msg! 215 Pre gsp excellent ride and rip the bumps nicely!

[@evanfinch4987]

I bought a set of Quattro Thermos in good aesthetic shape because of this video--they are trucks, but I feel like watching (especially where I see them carrying them) that these were assessed by the company and are examples that still pop hard--mine just seem kinda dead compared to a bunch of my other straights (even same era).

[@67cruizer]

This is retro. I started skiing 51 years ago at Alta. I still have some old equipment around. Dynastar MV5 was popular in 205 I believe. Skied some Volkyl Snow Ranger 195last weekend on groomers just for kicks. I love the new 99 middle stuff, K2, Blizzard Bonifid, all mountain skies. Even the High Society FX . Enjoy and ski, you never know about tomorrow.

[@ancibananci6321]

Best skiis ever, adored them back then in 90s, never accepted carv, but must do

[@tjinnes]

Love my Morotto Ultimates for telemarking in spring conditions. 50mm under foot. Lots of fun. Great video, thanks.

[@5AXISDLOCKHART]

Stopped in the late 80s, miss my 207 K2 812s w Marker MRR bindings cranked. The new skis look interesting and everyone seem to have gotten magical carving abilities.

[@lorenzobolognini7284]

I'm 16 and i love this type of skis. I would like to buy them. Unfortunately i never skied with this type but i Think that are beautiful and they should to return on the slopes soon.😀😀😀😊

[@Pietro_Troschka]

😉😉😉

[@bobconley6954]

So glad for the variety of great skies on the market today verses my first year, 1960. Kept jumping on those wooden sticks from Montgomery Wards till I broke the tips off and convinced Mom I needed Head vectors like the cool kids had. Finally reached the super senior season pass rate! Looking forward to another season on the atomic metrons for the groomers and rossi soul 7's for softer snow. ( and if you can't carve on either, you need more lessons, or should go play golf!) No air anymore but technically still getting better! Great memories of my first really fat skis.. Volkl Explosiv.

[@SolaceEasy]

My 207 Dynamic VRMs were my powder skis. Good enough for Jean Claude Killy, good enough for me.

[@bojankal]

I still miss my Thermo v20 skis. 205 just like the one in the video. Hard to ski but amazing power.

[@theoracleprodigy]

I grew up on k2 204's. Started skiing on them before I could jump and touch the tips. Loved them back then but have to admit my slalom 165's are awesome.

[@morninboy]

I do not miss those old sticks. Like going from an F1 back to a Camaro

[@flecktrain]

Haha! First had the Thermo in 1,97m when I started as a ski-instructor 1,70m tall, 58kgs, 18ys old, Gerlos/Tirol in 1982. Later changed to 2,10m skis, what a hell of a ride! I bathed in mountain creeks at snowfall and cycled 270km on one day, hej!!! ;-) Good times! Flecki alias Rolling Bernie*

[@TomášTisovský]

45 m rold school radius, this is top skiing on the timing of the arc phase. Great.

[@thunderstruck8087]

My brother used to have a pair of Kneissl White Star 210s. It seemed you had to be going about 40 mph just to turn them, but they were awesome.

[@Braun30]

Stopped skiing about that time, still have my Rossignol 205 cm in the garage.

[@thomasking8674]

They for sale?

[@KTB3007]

Early 90’s 5’7” - and Head Hot 190’s / Solomon 647 cranked up

[@mojoron]

Oh hell yeah! If your skis weren’t at least six inches longer than you were tall you should stay on the bunny slope.

[@crabjoe]

Just skied my 30yo 200 Head racing with Marker MR Racing bindings and my Pink Panther Lange boots a couple weeks ago. Was told they were the oldest skis they had seen all day at the slopes.

[@videoworks7731]

The parallel turn on straights is something to behold

[@louislohr215]

Someone gave me his old atomic straight skis but I have skied on carvers my whole life, I really want to learn the “old” style

[@bradl1369]

My favorite ski was the Dynastar V8s. Badass

[@grizzkid795]

Just for the record, I skied S&S Couloir in 1981 on a pair of slalom skis.

[@alanroach3692]

I'm still on my Rossi 9's, 205's (hot in 1996). I can't get the shaped skis to work for me.

[@kirk2224]

I had the V20 in 205, the Fischer C4 in 207, and a Völkl Racetiger in 205 sking everywhere in the Alps during the 90ies working as an instructor. Great time, wonderful skis.But hey, there is an modern alternative on the market: Just got the original FIS approved Racetiger GS in 188. Straight and true: Old school

[@JohnFFerguson]

Does anyone know where I can get a "long skis truck-short skis suck" bumper sticker? Asking for an old friend. I mean a friend who is old but still in his prime.

[@johnsumner6185]

I used to race on those V20's back in the 90's, 210's!

[@robertduncanmuir]

me too - V20 thermos in Austria

[@Nonplused]

It's hard for me to remember what my old straight skis were like but I think the biggest difference is in carving. Curved skies can turn pretty boss without any side slip, all you have to do is roll your knees over the way you want to go. I'm not sure curved skis make all that much difference in powder, but wide certainly does. More float.

[@andyhatch1875]

Makes me want to dig out my old Rossignol 4S (195 cm) and head to Steamboat!

[@snowledge]

such a fantastic series

[@shanecurran7227]

Awesome,! Takes me back to the old "mega fast" days, on my atomic arcs

[@moto1p1]

Nice! I remember those old school atomic arcs well, they were my first set of skis that had tyrolia bindings w/brakes, no ankle straps lol. Also because I was going from 140cm to 170cm with the atomics, and remember my dad's friend saying, "There's gonna be some cussin' on the mountain this year" I was 9 or 10 so that was 'in 79 or '80... Damn, I'm getting old!

[@Pietro_Troschka]

I am 15 bit I use atomic arc and I love them! I have 735rs, 835rs and yellow team bionic rs.

[@thomashoffmann8960]

Hi Jürgen. .Skifahren neu denken ist angesagt..freu mich auf die nächste Saison 😃

[@jaymontgomery3330]

Skied Rossignol 4S 200's during the 90's, best ski's I ever owned.

[@petermartin9494]

Amen, bro.

[@richthetrashpicker-upper5244]

I never gave in to the easy skis I worked up at Mammoth I stayed true I kept on my 217 Merlin's handed down by Glen Plake my favorite where my 212 TNC. 210s Atomic arcs and of course my 223 Dina Stars now those are badass

[@TomsTunes1]

This clip is fucking GOLD!!!!!!

[@pierre-marielombard6052]

J'ai 59 ans, et je skie depuis l'âge de...9 ans, dont dix années d'encadrement du ski alpin. Aujourd'hui encore je skie des skis droits, des Dynamic VR27 World Cup, en 194cm. Sans aucun doute parmi les meilleurs skis jamais produits au monde. Bien qu'ils soient plus exigeants physiquement que les paraboliques, que je skie aussi, il procurent des sensations toutes différentes, et surtout, entretiennent une technique sans faille, impossible avec des paraboliques. Autrefois, les skieurs avaient tous un style différent, et une technique propre à chacun(e), et c'était un vrai régal, et une leçon, de voir skier tous ces bons, très bons, excellents skieurs et skieuses. À présent, c'est navrant. La plupart des skieurs et skieuses skient mal, sans véritable technique, et sans aucun style particulier. Pourquoi, parce que les paraboliques sont si faciles d'accès qu'ils ne requièrent aucune véritable technique, qui plus est obtenue en un temps très court. C'est pratique, ok, mais quoi de plus?... À mon humble avis: rien. Quant aux pistes, elles sont, aujourd'hui, bien souvent défoncées, et peu praticables dés la mi-journée, voir, parfois, dangereuses. Dommage, le ski est un sport merveilleux, qui mérite bien mieux que cela. Aussi, faites travailler les écoles de skis et moniteurs en tous genres, et ré-apprenez à skier, à skier vraiment.

[@gsracer8]

Still ripping my 195's for thirty years

[@untectings]

back in the mid 80S I was new to skiing and after I got tired of rentals and I wanted the best so I bought Rossignol 4S 190S needless to say I had no business on these skis

[@tchmilfan]

No fluorescent one-piece? Surely some Salomon rear-entries too. Also needs Seal, Art of Noise or 808 State for genuine Stumpage (yes, I know *licensing*). I can't even remember what I had... 210 Fischer and Dynastar something-or-others. RAD!

[@milolouis]

Looks so fun, gonna have to give them a try

[@TonyAllenSucks1]

They weren’t 200’s, but I skied the entire late 90’s on some 177 Atomic racing skis on the east coast. Groomers, bumps, straight ice, the little bit of powder we got, all on those things that were probably less than 60cm underfoot.

[@redjetsen1002]

1989 baby...Lake Tahoe for an epic year on old school gear

[@mikhail606]

I hit Tremblant yesterday in some old Rossignol Viper Z 198s in day-glo yellow and the tourists in their fat skis were giving me that same 'tude...until I left them choking on my spray, that is.

[@stephencoombs6520]

Yep. had a pair of Blizzard Thermo V20 205cm. they rocked. had a pair of Thermo SL (pre-V20) 203cm. loved them too, although they could be twitchy in a schuss.

[@olivertwisted]

V20s were my college ski. 195s. They twitched and had a tendency to catch a weird edge now and then out of nowhere.

[@derekrosecrans1361]

Need to dust off the old Tommy Moe's skis. Straight and fast.

[@zmach1969]

Volkl Weltcup 207cm still love those skis!

[@sohlbergk]

Volkl Explosiv R was the best ski I ever had. Almost 20 years on "shaped" skis and I'm still trying to figure them out.

[@nimai-ita]

great !! 😲

[@Skamanda]

Still have my French VR17s somewhere, I think...Those things sucked in the bumps, but man were they nice on groomers!

[@action55jackson]

I have both the VR 17 and the VR 27, but then I’m 76 years old

[@Skamanda]

@@action55jackson I'm only 42, but they were hand me downs from my dad when I was a teenager. Nice skis, for the time...

[@doublestrokeroll]

You forgot the Sony Sports Walkman. And isn't is Bliz-ZARD?

[@jseski9209]

you are correct on both accounts :D

[@Rolixinho]

really dope videos, would love if you made more of these

[@juliodominguez4750]

I still have my Dynastar Course SL 1,96 cm. My last time was in 2003. I will try them again. Let’s see

[@zbynekcodykolacek]

There is nothing better then 180 + GS ...

[@emmanuelsavage1271]

Still have my 208cm Rossi 7X's, the 94 model....

[@sheepdawg6946]

I haven't skied something that long and skinny in decades but these guys rip on those old skis. They are right, the fundamental is the same but it was harder to do on older skis. The fat short skis made it easier for people to ski stuff they wouldn't be otherwise and thus made powder skiing more crowded now.

[@johanneswandinger6228]

soo nice tried some old skis from my pa and just love em

[@danblumel]

Still have 223cm Kastle DH's and modern Fisher 215 DH's even now ski modern 198 Fisher GS skis.

[@jamesdunn9714]

I have a pair of 1992 Elans in storage a 203 pair of SL's. My last straight ski.

[@sledgehammer8146]

Used to ski the Red Sleds - Atomic ARC, 207 GS. Faster you went, better they were, if you skied them right. Wish I had them back.

[@zbqb84a]

Shoulda used some proper bindings. Curved poles too. Actually I'm surprised those skis are compatible with helmets. I miss my 213s.

[@RogerDiotte]

Just like someone in the below comments stated...I can attest to being gifted to also start skiing on ski's half a forearm over my head as a kid. Anyways someone said try starting out to learn to ski back then on ski's so skinny your boot dragged on turns and as long as chop stix! LOL LOL LOL....yea well now when you ski on todays equipment it's instant your a PRO!

[@13joeyyeo]

Still ski on a pair of K2 200 Extremes......................BOOOOOOOOOM

[@juanaboynkin1196]

I used to scream down the mountain on my 203 cm Dynamic VR27SGs.

[@lindiak007]

ripping gripping! Love it! 205? They don’t make them anymore 🙈🙈🙈

[@13joeyyeo]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOM

[@tusckub5643]

This is old school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TopSecretVid]

I wish Blizzard would remake the V30 ATV

[@arthurschmitt9859]

Blizzard was a great ski brand back then in the 1980s.

[@gcragg11]

And now?

[@ican8243]

Arthur Schmitt Blizzards are still great! The race skis are the same as the Nordicas, solid GS and SL skis.

[@harrymc08]

Fully rate this, nice work!

[@troudecul69]

I don't know why but the straight skis are so much more beautiful or I would even say magnificent than the stubby skis.... But when your knees are shots, the short parabollic skis are so much easy to turn....

[@jdub6153]

Being 50 and 6'3" I have several pairs of 210-212 cm skis you can have....for free...

[@mattquigley4944]

hook me up brother. I got to try a pair of 205 Kastle's out yesterday and now im addicted!

[@jask320]

My local shop has them!

[@rickmoore8293]

Back in the late 60s my family was on a ski trip in Vermont and we were all working the old man for new skis. Being the youngest new skis had already been used by a number of owners. Finally after working him for awhile he gave us the following dad line. Skis do not make great skiers, look at these Vermont farm kids they are sking on boards they ripped off of the family barn. They will be in the Olympics some day. Quote stayed with me to this day, the video is proof old dad was right on target. But he was also a cheap son of bitch as well!

[@andersteilmann8005]

Oh man... I got the exact same Thermo V20’s somewhere in my basement! ;)))

[@arielrh500]

Did a few runs recently on my old 210 Head Super-Gs. Horrible. I'll stick to my Nordica Hell and Backs.

[@sucapizda]

I love this.

[@thomasking8674]

I just bought some straight skis because I want to try them out, but I am unsure I have the proper length.. I am thinking they are a tad short. My normal skis are Nordica Hell and Back 186cm, and I am 6'1" and 205 lb... I found some Fischer Pro-Tech Carbons at 190 cm and in GREAT condition. Will I be able to get any use out of them, or did I waste $15?

[@darrenkastl8160]

Thomas King my rule of thumb is the faster you wanna go, the longer the better, as far as construction if all your doing is high speed gliding ,the structure of the ski needs stiffness for more consistant contact on the snow, if your going to try a ambidextrous ski for moguls , softer bodied ski is better , flexing to maintain grip and not bridging in a middle of the turn. I'm 5ft 9 and have 212's and they handled my 100 mph runs with out the chatter of a shorter ski.

[@thomasking8674]

I appreciate the feedback. When I picked them Up I figured because of their length and my size, I could break them in and then try them in moguls. Thx.

[@cosmicrancher2169]

O yea I have some 80s Volkl Renntiger in the basement.

[@pclifton4]

That daffy though 2:15