It’s not a revamp it’s a big nerf on Argus The biggest joke I ever seen in mlbb
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
It's nerfs and buffs combined
@justinlizamor15414 ай бұрын
Balance? 😮 @@ZayedHeroPlays
@abdulhakeemdizon90744 ай бұрын
Goodluck having to do this against yuzhomg WHAHAHAHA
@VikaBoko4 ай бұрын
Tbh Argus in global server just need extra movement speed when ultimate, thats gonna be good.
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
I think he's perfectly balanced and a monster in late game
@fallenangel95854 ай бұрын
@@VikaBoko or extra speed attack, at least when he's using his ultimate.
@khazzzzzz4 ай бұрын
Global server Argus is so much better since you don't have to commit your ULT to do BETTER burst. This version is so much weaker, 40% pen gone and longer ULT CD are such big nerfs while gaining nothing.
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
It is what it is I guess
@BoredwhaSphere4 ай бұрын
Adv. Argus feels like an immortalized version of Zilong, but slow in movement speed, His ult increases dps is a joke for me
@nuggetchicken87144 ай бұрын
moonton to othe heroes that needs buff: aww poor you here some buff,hopefully you get stronger with this buff❤ Moonton to Argus: *f**#cking** treats him like how he is treated in his lore*
@AppleArgus4 ай бұрын
Your hp always goes to zero during ult = ult cd 50-60 seconds. Another thing I noticed, they still have not improve Argus defense and base hp
@Shuster8074 ай бұрын
That's kind of bad to me 💀
@Marksman45y4 ай бұрын
I remember last year after Argus got 40% armor penet in patch and 2nd skill passive boost make him viable without ult, they also said "Argus too reliance with Ult" last year. In this patch moonton really confused with Argus spammable passive so thats why they try to balance him with penet removal and 2nd skill boost removal. Too bad they took back the "too reliance with ult" statement
@yoriichiT4 ай бұрын
I'm fine with the current argus, the adv server revamp made him take longer to kill tanks If they really want to make a minor buff just revert everything and add some movements speed buff and maybe a little extra seconds for cooldown and that's it
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
He's balanced on global more buff will make him OP and meta so I think they should just leave him be
@yoriichiT4 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays I'm totally ok with this tbh
@EllieGoodie4 ай бұрын
If they'll really be doing this version At least they should buff his base stats and growth stats such as HP, Attack Power and Attack Speed Then bring back his old passive where he recharges his rage faster when his HP becomes lower
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Cancel the revamp and do something completely new 😎
@EllieGoodie4 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays knowing Moonton doesn't have a sane mind I'd probably just wish they would bring back the Oldest Version where he was still Orange XD The 3 slash passive was also his peak damage tho, I wanna have that version tbh
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
@@EllieGoodie thing is his current version is very balanced from mid to late but insane at late which I think is fair cause his early is easily abusable
@EllieGoodie4 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays he's scary at late specially if he hides in the bush and some random Marksman or mage just gets near to it only to get obliterated in seconds because of the inspire spell that Argus mostly uses
@arigatameiwaku4 ай бұрын
6:57 7 seconds immortality... wow perfect ult
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
60 sec CD 🗿
@Curtanax4 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlaysI might buy fleeting time on late game 😔
@arigatameiwaku4 ай бұрын
@@Curtanax and lose a slot for a non dmg item?
@Curtanax4 ай бұрын
@@arigatameiwaku ye i dont wanna be useless for 60 sec, Argus dies pretty quickly without ult
@Yisrael-en2xs4 ай бұрын
Long story short Lesser damage Weaker passive Stronger ult
@garrytalaroc4 ай бұрын
Bro is not even one of the highest winrate, not OP, not popular, and moontoon treated him like the biggest threat in MLBB
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
They just hate him for some reason
@KitCat.i34 ай бұрын
Still loving the current argus because of the 40% penetration passive
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
It's more than that, the low ult CD and how simple it is
@Yashura3034 ай бұрын
In the End Sun become the strongest split pusher at all Masha and Argus lost it 😅😭
@SyedSulaiman-zg7hf4 ай бұрын
Dude current argus needs improvement 1. weak early game damage 2.low durability ( without ult) 3.too much dependency on ult without ult argus can be killed easily 4.argus has low win rate and he is one of the lowest picked heroes in high ranks
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
In right hands he's unstoppable
@imafailure24092 ай бұрын
I feel like they could have stayed with the last version of this revamp ( before they retreated the experimental Revamp) Like that version is actually and already fair enough this one seems a bit pushed back further ,, The only thing they could nerf argus is cool down and the removal of Slow immunity but in exchange of yeah 8ish immortality and Purification against cc ( Francos ultimate example) but yeah still this is experimental revamp not official yet so they gotta cook right and they better finish that Epic skin of his ( in work for what 9 years ? ) they gotta make it buyable and not Event wise I have been waiting
@imafailure24092 ай бұрын
Also They trying to make argus go with the route of Crit build because his a burst/charge fighter not reap so basically they tryna correcting the guy ( Reap heroes are like Claude or Karrie ) . Again this is EXPERIMENTAL" revamp" not official revamp also they really should have reverted the 3 slash attack of him if ever they'll go with this route of revamp he's better that way
@ZayedHeroPlays2 ай бұрын
That skin is never seeing the light of day
@Kyriel-Keslana4 ай бұрын
Adv. Server Argus = Blade armor and vengeance his already hella weak 💀 Org. Server Argus = Good luck countering his Trinity Build 🗿
@SimonSahara-zl9ck4 ай бұрын
They should give him more attack speed if they want him to be a CRIT guy
@ArgusBessmertovich4 ай бұрын
I disagree. Argus needs a buff. It's very difficult to fight vs current meta. All fighters on exp lane just need 1-2 items for damage, and then buy defence and there will already be a huge impact from them. Whereas Argus needs at least 4 damage items to have any damage at all. Lapu just needs to buy defence boots and part of an armour, and Argus will never kill him until lait comes. And who said that enemies will wait for his late game?😂 The same goes for other fighters. Argus is called a trash hero for a reason, he's very easy to counter. Argus is just one of those heroes that needs a revamp. His good winrate is only held by a very small number of players who know how to play him. In addition, because of his weakness, I am not rarely tease at high ranks, even to the point that my teammates specifically take heroes to lose because they have an Argus mainer in their team. It's clearly an inadequate situation, proving that developers must buff this character. And last nerfs completely killed him. On test server people often have high ping, also they don't have a rigid goal to win in front of them, which the original server in ranked games has. On the original server, meta fighters buy defence. Nerfing a passive that has 40% penetration removed from it will lower Argus's damage to meta heroes a lot. Also cd of his ult is too long.
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Buff doesn't mean it needs a revamp which makes him worse lol
@ArgusBessmertovich4 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlaysThat's not a question for me, that's a question for developers. 😂😂😂 Why they've decided to make all these changes. You just said that you are happy with current Argus, that's why I reacted that way.
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
@@ArgusBessmertovich I am happy with current argus tho, I think he's perfectly balanced and strong late game like alot of heroes are and the changes don't feel good to play which defeats the purpose of revamping. My opinion tho
@BoredwhaSphere4 ай бұрын
If they released this revamp, some people gotta use an item that reduces Ult cooldown when killing or getting an assist (i forgot the item name)
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Uhh the thing idk what it's called too💀
@CURUTPUTIH4 ай бұрын
Fleeting time
@riusuky4 ай бұрын
What is your opinion regarding this "balancing"?
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Should be cancelled and argus left alone as he is
@SEEKER_Of_CULTURE4 ай бұрын
Just bring back the bleed effect for the 2nd and icrease the stun on first thats just the buff i want
@marsiconic2874 ай бұрын
What's the difference between assassin emblem and mm emblem which one is better for argus
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Mm emblem is better because his attack speed goes crazy and helps in split pushing
@asdgdsfgdg72684 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays I watch hororo channel where they remove argus 40% ignore defense from his passive. If they did remove it, I'm pretty sure assassin emblem will be more viable with the revamp argus tho it's just my opinion
@averagegummywormfan4 ай бұрын
It's weird So they're making his teamfight better and his push worse But made him EVEN MORE ult reliant?? And made his ult cooldown so bad??? And chucked his versatility out the window???? WHAT DOES MOONTON WANT FOR ARGUS?!?!?!?
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Yeah he was ult reliant before but ult CD is quite low but now he may be vulnerable for like 50+ secs
@Comedy-kp5dl4 ай бұрын
3:06 what was that ult delay 😭
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Either 90 Ms or slow hands 🗿
@lorenzoadrielbautista9584 ай бұрын
Why tf would they even think of nerfing Argus? I still can't make sense of it until now
@NFX_Shiro4 ай бұрын
Argus ult it's bugged in advance server Every time i tap my ultimate the cool down go to 60 seconds but my ult never activated 😢 Do you know why Or it's happening to someone else too?
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
I haven't noticed that
@NFX_Shiro4 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays i hope it's fixed soon because if this release without fixing the ult this going to be problem right btw im fast hand and im trolling with the recall bug
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
@@NFX_Shiro it's in advance server for a reason so there will be bugs before releasing 👍
@NFX_Shiro4 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays did you notice something strange on argus damage?
@NFX_Shiro4 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays normal it's having 170 or 200+ damage right? I tasted him but i attack Layla and Argus dealt only 177 damage with triple demonic slash i was using full critical build
@mohammadkhoirunnas56804 ай бұрын
What do you think after playing argus for a long time on advance server. Who is better on advance server or original server?
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Original without a doubt. he's simple, fun and strong but advance is just confusing
@fallenangel95854 ай бұрын
2:20 Argus needs a buff, so I'm unhappy with the current Argus
@toppingbeast59794 ай бұрын
Nope u just need to use its damage build instead of Trinity then see
@fallenangel95854 ай бұрын
@@toppingbeast5979 I use them both, critical build against squishy and the trinity against tanky heroes, but again, Argus needs a buff, it's not enough for the current meta, and never use critical build when the enemy uses vengeance, if u did, you'd only kill yourself.
@averagegummywormfan4 ай бұрын
They're revamping agus because of the star wars event really. Cyclops too
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
I don't even like that skin 🗿
@BobFunniman4 ай бұрын
They still need to bring back 40% Pen.
@mekku21344 ай бұрын
No matter what "revamp" he has Im not going to let 40% armor penet got away😠
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Moonton says nah
@toppingbeast59794 ай бұрын
It is huge nerf he will bedome a lot weaker in early game than he is now and the low damge is the biggest nerf in history to any hero in mllbb like they reduced almost 50-60% of his damage the best part about argus was its damage moonton truly hates argus they just show it as a buff but its the biggest nerf they took the best par of a hero like if u took an mms attack speed and lifsteal
@tomking22604 ай бұрын
wtf is that ult cooldown
@QwertyUiop-w6m4 ай бұрын
Will advanced server update this day? If so, i hope they change argus :)
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
I dont think so
@darkburntrap54014 ай бұрын
So what build do you prefer for the revamp argus? Trinity build Or Crit build
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
CRIT is better because both ult and passive get alot stronger with CRIT but honestly I found the difference weirdly close and I didn't really fought alot of tanks to truly see the difference so hopefully this revamp gets cancelled 🗿 but if its actually coming to live then I'll have to try it on ranked to find out
@darkburntrap54014 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays well due to the penetration from his passive got removed, I think moonton was going to replace the penetration removal, or leave it there; just like you said, the change isn't final, so we'll have to wait till the last change before the new update
@aissagame87314 ай бұрын
Man I hate the fact that argus are Very bad against tanks 😭😭
@gojifox56984 ай бұрын
Something gotta be nerfed. He can still power through them, just is weak to cc. Tho the armor pen removal on demonic slash will be a hard nerf to that
@ArashAfsharpanah4 ай бұрын
Tank killer build is still as good as past But his crit build become too stronger after this revamp
@vivec68573 ай бұрын
Argus was good during his early days, argus since his major rework has gone weaker and weaker every patch I'm glad I quit playing mlbb for a while, this revamp argus stinks.
@ZayedHeroPlays3 ай бұрын
Play Phoveus
@yone96054 ай бұрын
Why they are focusing on him? Bcz have 2 upcoming skins also whenever he gets a buff you tubers hype it so bad that instantly get nerf
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Which upcoming skin?
@yone96054 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays collector skin and his epic skin. Epic may be in pending but the collector will come in 2 or 3 months
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
@@yone9605 any link about that info ?
@VichhekaMom4 ай бұрын
Somebody tell to moontoon please keep argust like to day is ok for play😢
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Argus is the best hero currently but they don't see the vision
@Im_Glide4 ай бұрын
Its not buff its a huge nerf for argus
@JeviafriOfficial.4 ай бұрын
the ultimate duration more long time again. moonton ruin argus i think. and soon will adjust again
@clydestrot84024 ай бұрын
Argus was ok they shouldn't have touch him
@DownFallT_T4 ай бұрын
Fr i think i will lost my gameplay if they realesed this shitty ass nerf
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Yeah idk why they're forcing him to become a Teamfighter
@clydestrot84024 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays they nerf him too much bro
@hav0c_cs4 ай бұрын
nah
@justinlizamor15414 ай бұрын
Martis Needs A Revamp! 😢
@oliverbischii398622 сағат бұрын
Argus is Bad now
@Tabba04 ай бұрын
to me, this is a big nerf to argus 😮💨
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
It is uncertain
@Tabba04 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays but I would play argus either mixed build or critical build :/
@saifmuhammad33824 ай бұрын
Painful passive dmg
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
That goes both ways
@saifmuhammad33824 ай бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays People think he's weak but he can get used to it no matter what.
@ArashAfsharpanah4 ай бұрын
As a noob Argus, this is what i think about his revamp His early is weaker but his late is too much stronger Tank killer build is still works as always and there is not much difference But new crit build is too much stronger than the crit wich he have for now Of course his ult is too stronger now, ult burst damage also movement and damage buff is so interesting and too much stronger His push is too weaker now because he can't get energy from terret This means wining by yourself when your Allies are noob is too much harder Of course his team fight is too much better too amd I think his taken damage will be too much more than tank😂 Pro players like you probably don't have much problem with a little weaker in early But his early nerf makes him too difficult for new players Also, he used to be a simple hero to use, I mean, his skills and combos were easy to understand and nothing special, but now he has a lot of rules and in order to use him properly, we have to do some research on him. I think i would like new Argus, but I'm not sure...
@ZayedHeroPlays4 ай бұрын
Yeah for some reason they want to him less simpler which isnt a good thing, some heroes should remain simple
@cond3mned_244 ай бұрын
Naaaah. this is the worst shit. I've seen out of all on Argus's Adjustments.