ReVamp - "Disdain" (Live) [FIRST TIME HEARING] REACTION

[@black4pienus]

Ow young Floor... Such a power babe! I love this song too. Listen to it often on high volume.

[@mirjamvond1731]

She did already do symphonic metal before Revamp though in her first band After Forever 🙂

[@billattercliffe8655]

She formed ReVamp in 2009 as her child. She had creative control, produced the song ideas, wrote lyrics and melodies, managed the band and so on. ReVamp went from 2009 to 2016, which is almost a four year overlap with Nightwish (starting October 2012). She toured with ReVamp after becoming the official lead singer of Nightwish. She actually met her future husband (Hannes van Dahl of Sabaton) while touring as a support band with Sabaton for Iced Earth after she was already a member of Nightwish. The funny part is that Hannes knew nothing about Nightwish, but the Sabaton guitarist was a serious Nightwish fan so he was freaking out that they were sharing the tour with the Nightwish singer while Hannes is like, "Who?" This is just a crappy fancam video of ReVamp, but it does give us a better idea of how Floor can swing from a deep growl to opera in the span of a single note, "Misery's No Crime" kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX-zlqaCe7mhi8k. I particularly like her leopard snarl at 0:38 and the reaction from the guitarist. He knows what's coming, but he still can't help but recoil. If you want to see vicious head banging Floor, "Kill Me With Silence" at Graspop, kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqvFdpSjm7mWg8U

[@Killermcknight]

Bill thanks for the information and that's funny about Hannes little did he know haha I would love to check out more so thank you for the recommendation!

[@clemenstremens1940]

Indeed a crappy video, but despite that: what a gem! Thank you👍

[@hamohamo8270]

Damn, Floor sings this song Misery's No Crime in this concert indescribably powerful, just a head explosion,🤯 this is a level beyond this world, she is the best singer on the planet, no one has such an incredible voice as Floor has.

[@BrendonChase_2015]

Man, you're the first one to really give credit to the drummer here. Used to be one too, so maybe that's why, like you said. Subbed for that one and a great overall reaction. Keep it up! Cheers from Holland.

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks Brendon!

[@no_onein2024]

Here's more ReVamp you'll totally dig: “Wild Card” Live at MFVF XI (live recording w/ studio overdub) kzbin.info/www/bejne/e52chZiMg7mHaq8 “Here’s My Hell” Live at Bloodstock 2014 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4rRnWmJmbV-aJI “Trial of Monsters” Live at Grasspop 2010 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p32olKF8d7SUlac “Misery’s No Crime” Live at Mezz Breda 2014 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX-zlqaCe7mhi8k “Head Up High” Live at Bloodstock 2014 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJubfqKNe9uZfq8

[@Killermcknight]

Oh man thank you so much for doing that for me! I really appreciate it! a lot of people have been suggesting Wild Card and Misery's no crime!

[@wannabedane4046]

Nightwish kind of resurrected Floor - she had a burn-out and with ReVamp she was doing everything (booking, arrangement, lyrics, etc.) When she came to Nightwish, they needed her, yes, but they also restored her and gave her, her confidence back... Floor herself says she was an angry person in ReVamp, but that she is not the person anymore. Nevertheless, she did great things with ReVamp and also with her very first band "After Forever".

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks for that little tid bit of information that's very interesting. I could see how managing a band and doing everything on your own would cause burnout I used to do the booking for my bands shows back in the day and it is stressful. I was in a garage band nothing compared to Floors level but I understand that. I've been watching a lot of viking shows lately is your name associated with Danes in that sense or is your name Dane? My son's name is Dane! so either way awesome name man!

[@wannabedane4046]

@@Killermcknight Hey, my username should actually be changed to ImADane since I now am a danish citizen as well as a french citizen ;o)

[@prhrm2862]

Hey, it's nice to wath Floor on camera during the tour in the USA with Revamo, Sabaton (so she met Hannes)and Iced earth (at that moment the greatest band of the three and now....). Floor seems very happy on that tour . You can visit six parts. Here the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3TEpIGjmcZjhrc

[@janlouwes1264]

Back in the days, Revamp was touring with Nightwish and Tuomas knew what she could with her voice. When their singer became ill in the middle of a USA tour, there was no doubt in his mind that she could do what was needed. So she was called and jumped on a plane. Watch the movie about 48 hours to learn the set list.

[@Killermcknight]

That's awesome Jan thanks for the information!

[@villes3024]

NW toured with After Forever, Floor's first band back in 2002(?), but never with Revamp. After Tarja they needed a new singer but didn't want to break an existing band, so they never asked Floor at that point. After Forever disbanded 2009 and Floor started Revamp from scratch but eventually got a burnout from doing too much trying to focus not only on Revamp but also her dayjob. She was still recovering from the burnout when she was asked to fill in Anette, NW singer at that point, for the end of their world tour. Obviously I can't say for sure what was the motivation for them to ask Floor, but she was available and they knew she was capable to do it. Why Floor agreed to join them? Nobody than herself knows it for sure, but after severe burnout it must had felt relieving to step back from being the primus motor of Revamp and focus only for the vocals. And actually make her living doing that.

[@Tamm1965]

@@villes3024 In a documentary on dutch tv she said if NW would have called a month earlier she would not have been ready.

[@adlicious100]

Great reaction dude ...Nightwish Army is with You 💎💥💜🎶🙏🏼

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks Ben!

[@R---66---R]

The best reaction till so far (from what I watched on YT) on this incredible Revamp's Disdain! Ofcourse I immed subscribed...bonne chance, mon ami! All greetings from The Netherlands.

[@Killermcknight]

Wow, thank you!

[@prhrm2862]

Great song. What about the musicians of Revamp. An amazing Jord Otto, what a guitarist. He played in Revamp and Vuur (band with Anneke van Giersbergen). Currently he is a photographer I read. I hope he continues to perform.

[@silverblack5475]

You want to hear Floor really growling checkout " Revamp - Miserys no crime" @ Mezz Breda 17-01-2014

[@Killermcknight]

hell yeah thanks for the recommendation!

[@eddiecreutzburg7375]

From death growls to operatic 😎😎😎😎 that's Floor in Optima forma. HAIL the Valkyrie Goddess of Metal and Empathy..🤩😍🤩😍🤩 You want music from Nightwish played at warpspeed... do The Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean. Heavy, heavy song. This drummer is nothing compared to Kai Haito aka The Human Metronome.

[@richardhall6034]

Hi from the UK 👋 🇬🇧 something you might like to check out floor jansens friends (Simone simons) band called epica it's a symphonic metal band from Holland 🇳🇱 mutch heavier than Nightwish Epica consign to oblivion live at the zenith Paris Epica unleashed live retrospect show (full orchestra on stage with the band) Epica sancta terra with floor jansen live retrospect show (floor singing as a guest) As you like drummer's check out Band maid it's an all girl Japanese band and these girls can rock 🎸 Band maid freedom live world domination tour 2020 (Nice drum solo) Band maid, play live world domination tour 2020 Band maid domination world domination tour 2020

[@Killermcknight]

Richard! thank you so much I've had these bands on my radar but didn't know where to start! I really appreciate it!

[@marshallsnyder8423]

I'm somewhat disappointed that Revamp was unable to continue due to Floor being scooped up by Nightwish. This was Floor's band, she wrote all the lyrics and melody lines. I personally think the best example of her growl is in the third verse(I think) of the title song from the 2nd album Wildcard. There are only crappy vids of her doing it live, though some clever chap dubbed in the studio track on to some live footage and that worked pretty well. This Graspop performance is the only(halfway) decent live footage, at least that I've been able to find. with Disdain she is in her beginning growl really. She talks about being intimidated by growling until her friend advised her on who to learn from. There is an interesting vid of her making a guest appearance with Soilwork called Let This River Flow. She does a growling duet with the lead, but they're voices are almost the same it seems like and he has the bigger voice so it's a little difficult to hear her. Still, it's a pretty cool cut. Thanks for this reaction, I subbed because of it.

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks, Marshall I really appreciate that! Right off the bat I was getting that vibe that Floor was very invested you can just tell with her performance. Thanks for the information and kind of background into Floor that's very interesting. I've got to check out that soilwork song now lol anyways thanks again Marshall glad you liked the reaction!

[@marshallsnyder8423]

@@Killermcknight A couple more tidbits on this concert. This was an noon opening set. At the start very few are engaging. Revamp was not that well known. By the end the entire crowd is involved. The whole set is worth listening to. There are some mike issues during the first 2-1/2 songs. The crew seemed oblivious...oh well.

[@billattercliffe8655]

@@Killermcknight About the Soilwork appearance. Being the guest, Floor is not going to sing over the lead, plus her mic might be cut back a tad. She is capable of growling very loudly (e.g. the ending of some of the "Yours is an Empty Hope" performances), but in this Soilwork song, we don't hear her well. The key is though, she's down at the same C2/D2 level as Björn.

[@ronnie1587]

Hi Killer, Floor was about 29/30 years old in 2010! She played with After Forever from 16 years old for 12 years until they disbanded which broke her heart as she loved this band and they were about to make it to the top. Also around this time she broke up with her partner, also with After Forever, who actually broke up with her as he started seeing her best friend behind her back, which also broke her heart. I won't mention their names but you can Google it easy enough. I'm only saying all this as, when you hear the lyrics of the songs she sang at this venue with ReVamp it's obvious she felt betrayed. The point is the she went on to form ReVamp and they were very good!! There is a full 41 minute version of this set on KZbin which is great. It starts with a broken mic during the first 2 songs and not many fans but, and by the end there are thousands watching her and shouting for more which she felt really good about. She makes a couple of small speechs during the set which are heatwarming (which I thought were both sad and happy) and brought a tear to my eyes!! I have this 41 minute set on my playlist but I don't know how to give you the KZbin address to send to you. If you want I can give you the reactors name so you can check it out. I think you will really enjoy watching the whole set and not just the one song. Take care Ronnie

[@Killermcknight]

Ronnie, yeah that would be great if you would let me know what the reactors name was so I can check it out!

[@m1laen771]

After Forever, ReVamp, Nightwish, Northward, solo shows, covers (putting metal in Disney and even a double drum kick version of Ave Maria), guest appearances Evergrey, Soilwork, Epica, Star One, Ayreon, Sabaton, etc. and singing lullabies on TikTok... Floor doing Floor things On the album version of Disdain the growls are done by Bjorn Strid from Soilwork another band I think you will like. Floor did a guest appearance at one of their shows SOILWORK - Let this river flow kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6q7c2p5d5t3o7c

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks man I've heard of Soilwork before I'm pretty sure they went on tour with slipknot once before I will definitely check it out!

[@zfgdun]

First time hearing this. Awesome.

[@Killermcknight]

🤘🤘

[@schout33]

The songs of Revamp deal mostly with (bad) relationships and the bad breakup of her first band After Forever certainly has brought on this 'angry' Floor. Afer Forever was also a Symphonic Metal Band and in 2001/2002 toured through Europe together with Nightwish. In that time Floor and Tarja became good friends and still are. Maybe Tuomas considered asking Floor already after Tarja left in 2005. After 'After Forever'disbanded, Floor started Revamp from scratch in 2009 and did run the band practically on her own. As she also did a lot of vocal coaching, Floor paid the price and got a serious burnout. She just had recovered when the call came from Nightwish to fill in for Annette october 2012. She performed a couple years with Revamp also, but in 2016 it was clear she could not do both anymore, so Revamp disbanded. Here is a link to a song (Misery's no Crime) where Floor takes growling to a next level, even compared to the better known 'Disdain' and 'Wild Card': kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX-zlqaCe7mhi8k

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks Schout for the information and background on the bands! I really appreciate that! Misery's No Crime has been highly recommended to me from the comments I'm definitely going to check it out!

[@billattercliffe8655]

@@Killermcknight One of the complications about the demise of After Forever - Sander Gommans started After Forever with Mark Jansen (no relation) and Sander became Floor's live-in boyfriend. When AF broke up, she not only lost her band, she lost her man as well. Sander married Amanda Sommerville, who I believe had worked and/or was a friend of Floor's. I'm not good at the gossip thing so perhaps someone else can fill in the details. When we listen to the lyrics of both ReVamp and Northward, there's a lot of anger in Floor's song writing and performances. Check out "While Live Died" kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHLMgZiJqNZ3Y5Y to see another side of Floor - an 80's hard rock version. This song was written about the time of the breakup of AF, but released about a decade later.

[@AGDinCA]

My American friends will understand this analogy... ReVamp = blue collar Nightwish = white collar Both are necessary and have immense value, and each serves completely different functions. 🤘😁

[@Killermcknight]

I love that!

[@ShadowhispersBand]

Even as a European, I got that. Well put indeed.

[@jc4566]

Hey, you should definitely check Floor Jansen Revamp song wildcard live show next, awesome thanks requesting 😎

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks J C will do!

[@Zoey-K-1]

Floor’s first band After Forever was more Nightwish-like, though they did have male growling combined with Floor’s singing which, again, was more in line with what she does in Nightwish. reVamp was completely her own thing, but she got burn out trying to handle it all herself and her health suffered a great deal as a result.

[@mraijmann59]

I love Revamp but her first band After Forever is even better

[@jerrypapadatos1210]

You should check out NightWishs Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean that’s one of there faster songs with superb drumming

[@Killermcknight]

Hell yeah Jerry thanks for the recommendation!

[@mirjamvond1731]

Yesssss

[@ShadowhispersBand]

If you like the music, make sure to check out "Dark Horse White Horse". It's a pretty new band with some of the musicians of ReVamp with the very underrated singer Marcela Bovio. They released an EP in April (if I remember correctly) and you can basically choose any song.

[@laudatosiadastra1218]

I loved your reaction!! So happy you reacted to Revamp. Now that you have done Revamp, you should check out Floor´s first band called After Forever. Dreamflight live could be a good first introduction. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXOvnJhqr8qNq6s All the best

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks Laudato, I really enjoyed it and I will definitely check out After Forever!

[@grahampannell2750]

Told you floor was the queen lol Dont know if you read my last reply ! Another band worth checking out are an up and coming called Liliac They are made up of 5 young siblings and started off doing rock and metal covers , now doing some originals ! Start with the trooper official iron maiden cover , the singer is 14 ! Then master of puppets official metallica cover from earlier this year , singer is about 19 ! Give em a go 🤘

[@Killermcknight]

Hell yeah Graham, I will just been trying to get this backlog done.

[@tw1398]

You're definitely right that this was different than Nightwish, but also keep in mind that Floor was in After Forever before this. So Nightwish was a natural transition for her I would think.

[@Killermcknight]

TW that's awesome I keep hearing about After Forever I'm genuinely curious now. any suggestions on where to start with them?

[@tw1398]

@@Killermcknight I will defer to the Nightwish Army to give you those suggestions. To be honest I haven't spent a lot of time listening to After Forever or Revamp...YET! I was listening to After Forever, Nightwish, Serenity, Epica, Kamelot, etc. etc. etc. for a couple years before I really took the time to learn about those bands and their singers. I just loved the music. It is actually reaction videos that have motivated me to learn more, and I'm loving it!

[@hermenw.huiskamp8555]

Hiya! Nice reaction, great to see and hear some 'older' work of a younger Floor 😊 You mentioned the drummer a few times, so I have suggestion... Check out EPICA (a Dutch symphonic metal band) 'Kingdom of Heaven Pt.3' (Live stream concert) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJWldImDeZ2Hn68 and listen to Ariën van Weesenbeek playing. I think you will be hooked 🤘

[@Killermcknight]

Added! thanks Hermen I really appreciate it!

[@huisjebudde]

To see Floor’s story: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGSxepmrZdapqsk

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks Bram!

[@obud3777]

Next Revamp: "Wild Card"

[@ronnie1587]

Hi Killer, Look up Eternal Tom and go to revamp at Grasspop and then the 40 minute and 19 second show live. It's great!! Let me know if you find it OK. If not I'll try another way to get it to you. Cheers Ronnie

[@Killermcknight]

Ronnie, I think I found it lmk kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3uXp3eQispod5o

[@ronnie1587]

@@Killermcknight Cool, Let me know what you think. After the disastrous start with the mike I thought it was going to be awful, but Floor just kept going and didn't let it put her and the band off!! I personally thought they were great throughout the whole show and it annoys me a little when people keep recommending the same song all the time (Distain) and seem to forget the rest! I think Distain is great but so is the rest of the show!! Anyway I hope you enjoy it🙂 Cheers Ronnie

[@pietkeizer5216]

Hey, nice to see you likes Floor in Revamp. Tip for the next Revamp? Trial of Monster’s, great song. Nice reaction. More Floor…always good.

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks Piet I appreciate the recommendation! 🤘

[@jasonmarshall7572]

Here's a bit of a compilation of Floor Growling kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYuZhoman96Bqdk

[@Killermcknight]

Jason, that is freaking awesome!

[@gittadezeeuw3946]

That is the old and simpeler band Revamp.

[@samuelengle3773]

Man i think you will probably like Epica. Start with Kingdom of Heaven part 3

[@Killermcknight]

Thanks Samuel Epica is for sure on my radar but I wasn't sure what song to start with so I really appreciate the recommendation!

[@billattercliffe8655]

@@Killermcknight "Consign to Oblivion" at the Zenith in Paris is often the gateway song for Epica. It's a bit like Nightwish meets Slayer.