Revel Speakers | What do they sound like?!

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[@rlowes]

Ron this was my favourite sound clips with commentary you’ve ever done. Excellent explanations of what you heard which matched up well on my end. Great work man.

[@Newrecordday2013]

Hey thanks

[@Nightjar726]

@@Newrecordday2013 Ron could you possibly update with the track listings so we can compare our speakers? Thank you!

[@matteosartor3235]

@@Nightjar726 He gives the track list to his patreons only. You can try using shazam, it gets the tracks most of the times :)

[@STChelvam]

Just adding markers for the tracks. 4:45 Bad days 6:20 Guide us 9:54 Party at EvanHoe 11:33 The ever evolving agony 13:55 Caught by waves 14:39 Cruise boat party 16:45 In need of a Romance 17:50 Next paradise 18:45 Take me to the middle 19:40 Sunsets of Boston 23:34 Same old Road 32:50 The second kiss

[@astroboydivx]

I can't find a lot of these on Spotify - can you please supply the artist name also

[@STChelvam]

@@astroboydivx You can find the complete tracks details at kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6S9ZWODlpJ1rJI

[@connorduke4619]

Excellent - that was one of the most thorough and professional speaker review I have seen! Instead of simply stating "it is great" (as lesser reviews tend to) you explained why it is great, the caveats and also how to mitigate some of the caveats.

[@Newrecordday2013]

Thanks man!

[@xeniavader]

i love how you filmed this, great reviews as always. Headphones make all the difference

[@odwatchguy]

Thanks Ron I really enjoy your sound clips with commentary on speakers. I wanted to listen to what you thought even though I would never be able to consider them.

[@goldenearaudioreview4904]

First time actually using headphones with the binaraul video. Super fun Ron! Thanks so much for the video.

[@curtiscreech827]

I love this! I know it would be a lot harder on you with editing, setup, and so in, but I would LOVE it if you could let us hear the differences between favorite amps, level matched, on the same speakers. Let us hear why you love the amps you do (with commentary, of course)!

[@lbudt29]

The DIRAC opened the sound feild up and defined it alot. Nice equipment. I have CV sl12's, and a JVC 1994 avr, 120W , AND Sennheiser HD headphones and could hear the difference very well. I use the straight line option from the amp it has.

[@raphaelmeillat8527]

Always fun to check some of the test tracks you use. Have not tried this on headphones but direct onto my speakers... Fun to compare your video recording vs. straight Tidal Amazing how A/B comparison works with regards to sound memory. With a big gap, both versions sound good. But with half a second gap, differences are huge!

[@lesmatthews459]

Don't ever let Randy go!! The sound over KZbin is the best ever!!!

[@Nightjar726]

This is great!! Hey since you are doing these binaural recordings and using speakers that measure well, could you possibly do a review like this of a pair of Focal Kanta 2s? Much appreciated ! Great channel!

[@treyhorn5645]

Holy cow I've been mad at myself cuz I couldn't find any of my iems so I ordered some new headphones cuz I have not been able to participate in the sound demos they don't sound right on my rig now I have my little BTR five headphone amp with some really cool headphones and you are walking through my head back and forth it is badass I can't wait I'm going to listen to the sound clips now brother.

[@giorgiovaloti4129]

Nice! You should do something similar with a setup session and / or with room treatment, so that people can have a glimpse of how the sound changes as you go through the steps and adjustments.

[@chrislesnar]

Another one from the best reviewer on KZbin.

[@jeffrylieshout]

LOVE the stereo recording

[@photoipster]

Enjoyed this review a lot! Would be helpful to know what tracks you played, as well as what equipment you were using

[@andrew-xr1de]

I live in the middle of nowhere so this listening session is great! Thanks! Love the metal tweeter but hate the box bass from the big vent holes in the front.

[@scottypalmer2158]

Another excellent review ... the best on KZbin by far. I wish us amateur speaker builders could send our creations to you for review. But the shipping and handling would be far too expensive. I've downloaded alot of your soundclips to test my own speakers. 👍

[@hi-techfilmmaker5682]

not realistic

[@NakeanWickliff]

Awesome job. Thank you so much. Please please when you do comparisons make them with zero gap between them. We loose a lot through streaming web videos but the zero gap between comparisons is one positive attributes when comparing recordings online. Please utilize it for us. I love your balance of subjective and objectivity!

[@bigadventure3797]

Those speakers look darn good in that room!

[@eleckson]

The pacing and rambling kinda gives this a "i just got kidnapped and the end is near" kinda vibe.

[@rickjack78]

Listening on H6xx headphones, my most neutral ones, those revels are gonna be my next speakers. Those are really good.

[@nsireeshkumar1]

really good video!. Can you share the albums & tracks?

[@theredon2]

The best test when you moving around and talking at the same time. When you are in the left side the screen sound come from my left channel when you are in the center the sound is right in the center and so on. Is like one of those Dolby sound test. On the sound side of things I like the way you explain what sound to look for to understand how the speaker perform.

[@ebkesq72]

It’s pronounced REH-vel. As to revel in the mirth and joy music brings to you. Probably the best engineered speaker brand in the world. No B.S. like megabuck speakers, just a massive amount of measurement, testing, and listening coupled with Harman’s huge R&D budget. The top of the line Revel, the Salon2, at $20,000 is by no means cheap, but it is the best measuring speaker in the world, and has been for over 10 years.

[@lesmatthews459]

Nailed it!!!

[@theedgeofbreakup5192]

Ron do you have any experience with or as anyone else tried the Revel Concerta2 f36? I'm wanting floor standers and these are 30% off right now which puts them in my price range. Not many reviews out there, but seem to be all positive.

[@RealHIFIHelp]

Great job Ron. Also the recordings sound like you are using a 30k USD microphone. (nice treat)

[@MrMwalker43]

Say, dear Ron, how do they compare to the Spatials X3 (but if you have yet to auditoned them) then to X5’s, sort of in their same price range. Please advise.Thanks

[@juanmillaruelo7647]

The binaural "head" with good headphones are the best way to "be" in your listening room. The sense of presence is incredible.

[@NickP333]

Those are definitely some smooth sounding speakers. Thanks for the excellent sound clips as usual, Ron. Btw, with the Dirac enabled, the difference wasn’t exactly subtle. ✌️🎶🌝🔊

[@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac]

Ron, I like the idea of the video, plays to your strengths for sure! Really good! But I still can't wrap my brain around recording the sound of stereo speakers, but that's just me.

[@Newrecordday2013]

I was resistant to the idea for so long. Sound clips on their own are a mess IMO which is why my commentary might be helpful. I think if viewers can understand that combining the two (the clips and what I’m saying) is really important to understanding what’s actually being heard in the room. Thanks for the comment Steve!

[@aceofspades6667]

Ron is the best! From his LOTS content to his live streams to his sound demos it's just money! He goes to extra mile to really provide as much details as possible for us men simple means that will never be able to hear these products ourselves.

[@craigjohnchronicles2504]

I have more difficulty trying to decipher an audio reviewer's comments about a speaker without hearing a reasonably good recording during the review. ...Ron has gone the extra 20 miles with his speaker demo/commentary. It's refreshing to hear what the review is explaining through a good pair of headphones.

[@BrentLeVasseur]

The biggest problem with Ron’s video is his lack of fashion sense. Steve you really need to give him some pointers there especially in the shirt department. He does get some extra points for his pajama bottoms. lol I think what he needs are a good pair of fluffy bunny slippers! :)

[@thomasmleahy6218]

@@BrentLeVasseur Brent. How about a pair of fluffy skunk slippers (a la Broom Hilda, USMC boxers optional)?

[@tazoriginal]

Do you know how they compare to the Canton Ventos? Is that a similar price point comparison?

[@LugzTM]

Where can I find your playlist?

[@edgardorivera617]

Well done Ron. Randy had me spend money already. I would pay 7000 for these. These are the best speakers you demo yet. With my eyes closed the mail and female vocals sound like they are part of your living room. Each song had stuff come out that I have not hear before. I really like these neutral speakers. Nice, now I need 7000. Hm what corner can I start at. Lol

[@hi-techfilmmaker5682]

So the recording from a CD player on your system doesn't sound as good as this recording from KZbin? Give me a break.

[@JohNChenHT]

Hello Ron.I want to upgrade my speakers,Point at the Revel F226Be and Perlisten R5t,The prices of these two speakers are very similar, and you have actually used them. I would like to hear your opinion.Thank you!

[@thefactor6909]

Outstanding review ! Really like the sound of those speakers to !! But I have beer breath and Champagne taste 😂

[@paulfreeman3777]

Quality recording demo’s! You need to teach everyone else on YT how to do it!

[@aceofspades6667]

Holo May vs. Holo Spring comparison coming eventually or has that content been sent to the shredded?

[@audiovideotech9777]

I have Revel Concerta II F36 Towers and the Revel Concerta II F26 Center. They are the best speakers I've owned and they replaced my Definitive Technology Mythos STS Towers.

[@millercreek79]

That treble is like a fine southern sweet tea!

[@juanmillaruelo7647]

They cost the earth, but they DO sound great across the FR! Bass, mids and treble. Excellent spkrs!

[@IliyaOsnovikov]

Most of the metal tweeter domes have huge dome breakup resonance just above the audio range. But that's not the case with the berillium domes.

[@gges1605]

May well just be the combination of youtube compressing the audio and my headphones but the bass from those sound really muddy to me just not defined enough, lol probably should have waited till the end of video before posting still I'm glad my ears are working. The recording on this is really good when its picking up those details the eq'd sound cleans up the bass considerably.

[@HyliAir]

What amplifier and speaker cables did you use?

[@r.guardia9107]

Nice speakers. I have the Revel Studios, but I never used them. Been in the box for 18 years😂 One of those projects that I need to finish.

[@juanbelman7739]

Hi, I live in Mexico, I don't speak English properly, I like your channel, I'm a fan of Harman equipment, I currently own a Revel Performa3 F206, do you think it would be worth changing them for a JBL HDI 3600? What are better? I also take this opportunity to ask, how much improvement is there between the Revel Performa F226Be and the JBL HDI 3600? Greetings.

[@burgersteak7723]

Can this speakers connect to any mixers for singing?

[@jeanclaudelavallee4919]

if you use foam plug in the port how do they behave ??

[@juanfeliu879]

great format for a thorough review of how they sound, which is ultimately what matters. pls consider making the methodology on this review a new standard for future speaker reviews. great job - thanks!! anything similar in the pipeline with the X5?

[@lanceamundsen3771]

How close to headphone soundstage can a really good and perfectly placed speakers get? Theoretically full 3D sound can be accurately reproduced. Rather than bashing listening on room speakers versus headphones, why not encourage viewers to get maximum imaging and soundstage via proper placement and listening position of their speakers?

[@vixia3]

REALLY wish you’d show your playlists. Darko does.

[@duranarts]

He's far from Darko level production.

[@johnlim7720]

I think it's quite important to point out when doing speaker review's that a speaker that sounds great in your room might not necessarily sound as good in another persons room. I myself have experienced this when listening to a set of speakers in 2 different rooms. I think we can all agree that the room plays a BIG factor in how a speaker sounds.

[@craigtomlinson2075]

The room is THE most critical factor. Fact not opinion!

[@lesmatthews459]

I comment as I watch!

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

Please review Danley SH-50

[@BanBiofuels]

Thanks. I had to rewire my speakers because I had Left and Right reversed.

[@joelopez7459]

What Amp n Dac?

[@brandonbrodbeck6688]

Hey how do this compare to the svs ultra towers? I like the way these look alot

[@erics.4113]

It's like comparing a good speaker to a bad speaker

[@louiesipes2257]

Waiting for Meze to come tomorrow, blame yourself and Randy😀

[@robertstorms4722]

I have older revels but in the last week or so I've heard a strange raspy sound from the left? No changes to my system. Any ideas why?

[@chrisvinicombe9947]

Hi try changing your speaker wires round so the amp left channel is driving the right speaker. That will at least let you know if it's the speaker. If it's the speaker I'd first check all the screws holding the drivers and treminals are tight. If its not the speaker check your amp for dc offset at the speaker terminals.

[@photobriangray]

DIRAC is witchcraft. Since I have to blend 2CH and home theater duties, I have been eyeing the NAD T778. I use Denon now, and the difference from standard Audyssey to MultEQ tuning is significant, but the after results for DIRAC is eye-opening through my Sennheiser 660s. You may have just cost me $3k.

[@Newrecordday2013]

Sorry about your wallet!

[@photobriangray]

@@Newrecordday2013 Can't take it with you... Heh.

[@ichigobankai2343]

Danny upgraded the smaller book shelf revel (be?) and if I remember correctly the treble was a little low which is how revel voiced it.

[@ichigobankai2343]

I think Danny changed out the resistor on the tweeter to boost it up a bit.

[@ichigobankai2343]

Also the first couple songs made the revels sound like I was hearing the box. Danny's no rez would fix that up.

[@ichigobankai2343]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4SQm4eAgJlmqpI

[@ichigobankai2343]

@@r423sdex Because I watched his video on the upgrade. I never said Harmon/Revel dont know how to make a speaker. Now days if one has the know how you can upgrade anything, that does not mean that the original product wasnt good to begin with but if you have the means to make it even better then so be it but I am not putting down the revel speaker. It seems you are being defensive. Even Ron said the treble was rolled off a bit which is why I mentioned Gr.Research's upgrade video of that revel speaker as his measurements showed it being slightly rolled off at the top end which is facts as the measurements dont lie. The ironic part is that every speaker manufacturer thats been in business for a while will ALWAYS upgrade there own products over time. Unless you are saying that only Harmon knows how to upgrade there own products and no one else knows how to upgrade it?

[@AudiophileJunkie]

Are you sure that high hat is real? Sounds like it's synthetic via the KZbin recording. It's "spitty" because it's made using white noise and a high pass filter among other things. It can sound somewhat similar to a live high hat, but I'm not getting that impression from the timing either...seems too robotic to be real.

[@Newrecordday2013]

Doesn’t matter if it’s real or not - the result is the same when played back on different speakers. Thanks!

[@AudiophileJunkie]

@@Newrecordday2013 A digitally created high hat provides "relative" value for comparison as you implied, but it actually matters A LOT for ABSOLUTE value. When you have real life high hat to benchmark, you can decide which is truly accurate. Nobody knows how the synthetic high hat was mixed, or what they thought was "close enough". Thus, it can seriously mislead someone into thinking a speaker is better/worse than it really is. I think you noticed it yourself when you mentioned "it was recorded poorly". It actually wasn't recorded in the traditional sense. It was CREATED, so perhaps other speakers were actually more accurate in showing that it's made of white noise and high pass filters, whereas a speaker that makes it sound better is actually less accurate. Follow?

[@Newrecordday2013]

Sure, makes sense. I am not sure if the high hat is real or not. If it is real, it could be brick walled and compressed that gives it a spitting effect. Now that I think about it, probably most of these clips are probably samples. Who knows if it’s real or not, but for my comparisons, I think they work fine. Thanks for the comment!

[@bigadventure3797]

I listened to these speakers recently and yeah what he said is right on. The Revel Saloon 2's blow these out of the water but they are also way more expensive. Smooth and rich is how I would define these speakers, and The low end is amazing, but they didn't have sparkle and dynamics in the upper mid and high frequencies that I look for in speakers.

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

Blow them out of the water? Such hyperboles are laughable

[@bigadventure3797]

@RockMusicVideoReviewer It's just my opinion after hearing both speakers. Not sure why you are trolling me. Now F off

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

@@bigadventure3797 temper temper

[@matthewhilty4209]

What should I set my DAC to for these recordings ? 48k 24bit ?

[@lickmygloves]

Lol KZbin uses lossy compression

[@cyberathlete]

I wish you had the exact same tracks playing for the Concept 500. I have an opportunity to get either Revel F226Be or the Concept 500 for the same price. Not worried about resale or discount % but just want something that works better for all genres of music. Going to be used with subs. Can be crossed over or run full range. Have various amps and preamps to work with: Rotel, Parasound, Yamaha, Bluesound Node. Have various subs to use with them: REL S/510, Rel T/7x, Martin Logan Depth i....

[@cyberathlete]

NM I demo'd tracks from both videos for myself and my wife and we both picked the Concept 500 over the Revel F226Be.

[@mikegoddard7354]

I demo'd these speakers and I didn't like them. However, I am glad I did because then I was exposed to Magiko and those are definitely my type of speakers

[@hailtothevictorz]

Dammit, Ron... are you going to get to the X-5 review before you move?!!!

[@ginom407]

Wow!!! They sound amazing over my HD-600's. I can only imagine how they would sound in person.

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

If this Wows you, imagine what the same audio file was played directly on your stereo and into your headphones.

[@ronniefranks4351]

I had a pair of Yamaha NS-1000M in the mid ‘80s that used beryllium tweeters. It was a great speaker but unfortunately I sold them to a friend. Shouldn’t have!

[@lesmatthews459]

Be - Beryllium?

[@BMaxey]

Your Patreon link 404's please update it.

[@rf0022]

make sure everyone is using the same headphones!

[@bradpyles5322]

Makes me realize how really good my Elac towers sound on the same demo tracks.

[@ebkesq72]

For a while, I got turned off by Ron’s repetition of audiophile myths (for example, believing there is something wrong with sand cast resistors). However, I have come to realize that Ron honestly posts his impressions of gear and is very entertaining and “chill,” even if he gets some technical details incorrect-the same issue that also besets Sean Fowler and Steve Guttenberg. But heck, he is not an engineer so I’ll cut him some slack. Good work, Ron, getting the millennial generation interested in hi-fi.

[@Newrecordday2013]

Thanks Eric. I’ll be the first the admit, I aim to please and often miss.

[@ebkesq72]

@@Newrecordday2013 Well, keep doing what you are doing. I’ve learned that you are one of the good guys even if I don’t agree with you on everything. I think you are doing a great job in getting more people interested in good sound.

[@dennismiller5725]

I get a different soundstage with DIRAC, maybe me but different.

[@Newrecordday2013]

That’s interesting, what did you hear that was different?

[@JingoLoBa57]

Is the binaural mic set @$7k on loan to you? Because they have renewed your reviews to best in class...

[@Newrecordday2013]

Yeah it’s a loaner.

[@davidrivera2165]

Boomy bass is distracting. It's either your room, or less likely the use of a port in the Revel trying to make up for small 6.5 drivers.

[@Newrecordday2013]

For sure it’s my room, I have a room mode right where they were placed.

[@albertelazar4069]

Does anyone here think, that the bass on these speakers sound kinda odd and bloated in a way?

[@cbts001a4]

the best thing is the binaural recoding at the beginnig in this video. I can figure out exactly where you stand, going, the distance to the Mics.with my speaker

[@dashcorbett7354]

I know Randy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but you shouldn't call him a dummy head...

[@lesmatthews459]

They are awesome speakers! But too rich for my bank book!!!

[@matthewhilty4209]

Ouch 7k smackeroos . With this sound signature I would not pair them with a SS McIntosh might be a doubling down on smooth and midbass which may be too much of a good thing IMO

[@lesmatthews459]

Not my headphones!! Free in a case of Bud!! LOL!!!

[@brandonbrodbeck6688]

Everything except the highs sound good the highs sound not muffled but just not my taste I guess

[@topside3]

Not a huge fan of these (over KZbin)

[@willmac5642]

Be beryllium

[@herrtrigger7220]

Not too bad, if you're into restricted speakers and don't mind having to integrate subs and all. When will see a review of the world-beater Revels, like F208 and F328Be? Revel hasn't been able to best the F208 in ABX testing since it came out 12 years ago, that says something. ASR's reviewers have had the F208 on their unrestricted speaker list over $10K for years and it's still one of their top 5 speakers at $20K level. F328Be bests the Salon by Revel's own account. Keep up the great work you have the best channel on YT brother.

[@gzubeck3]

Beryllium= Be (Be careful....it's highly toxic!)

[@thomasmleahy6218]

Bus driver of a train?!

[@buffal0bilious]

I Neumann dummy head named Randy... Randy the Neumann... Randy Neumann.

[@giriprasadkotte9876]

At that price, they'll probably look the cost than sound any better.

[@lesmatthews459]

Don't send him home!!! Your subscribers will help you out!!!

[@wanTANdan]

🤣

[@we8463]

You need to look at scientific measurements!

[@Newrecordday2013]

Is that so?

[@revo1336]

GR Research just did an M126Be mod video.

[@creativeslink]

Samsung “we have beryllium in these speakers”. Apple “we are proud to keep the following environmental toxins from our products” list has beryllium listed as the third thing.

[@JamesWilliams-gf8gm]

Apple has nets around their Foxconn Facility so people don’t jump off. Then there is the aluminum o Poisoning.... so no corporation is for the people

[@vixia3]

It’s only toxic if you eat it.

[@Nightjar726]

@@vixia3 and if you breathe it from it rubbing off.

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

So what. Do you drive a car?

[@davep2945]

Actually a very honest even if politically correct review of this speaker. It's almost as those who consider themselves "real" audiophiles can't bear to criticize Revel speakers but these are just about as disappointing as a $7000 speaker can be and this is from several in person listening sessions at a couple of different stores where the salesmen just couldn't wait to show me the brilliance of Revel products and beryllium tweeters. They do detail without harshness but bass, while accurate is unrealistically understated. Just a weak and lifeless presentation. If you need to feel moved by the performance of a speaker then these will not be your choice. The lowered priced aluminum tweeter version with the larger woofers were actually significantly better because the better integrated bass gave them a presence these beryllium models couldn't touch while the mid and top end were indistinguishable from each other. The sister speakers from Harmon, the JBL HDI, sounded better. I criticized a pair of Monitor Audio speakers with the ribbon tweeter that the salesman just raved about because the highs were so pristine, and he was right. Too pristine. As in unrealistically polished and perfect. Revels have the same type of presentation just without the boosted HF response.

[@craigjohnchronicles2504]

Love this binaural sound demo of the Revel F226Be. These things are.... smooooooth and easy to listen to. Revel doesn't seem to disappoint when it comes to mid-tones and vocals. ........but....... One thing I didn't expect from these speakers, and this goes back to your shoot-out demo a couple of weeks ago - the bass bloom and lack of texture. This video just verifies what I heard in the first video. While you can blame some of it on your room acoustics, there are other speakers we've heard in the same room that exhibits much less bass bloom, and far more bass/mid-bass texture. And because of that, these seem to lack a bit of clarity and detail. ...or that mid to upper end clarity is covered up/over-powered by the lower-end blooming. I have to say, based on this demo, and not having these speakers set up in my own home, I really prefer my $900/pair Revel Concerta2 M16 bookshelf speakers. The mid-tones are there, and I can hear so much more detail and clarity through the frequency range, including much more mid-bass texture. ...And this is with a bit of a bass bump on the bottom end of the M16. Being that they're smaller 2-way speakers, that little bump doesn't make bass over-powering. Taking it one step further, those M16 speakers paired with my REL HT1003, where you can tailor the lower frequencies to your own liking, it really rounds out the sound without losing clarity and detail. ...and the little Revel M16 bookshelf speakers can absolutely become holographic with the right speaker placement. For less than $1,500 (with the REL HT1003 sub), it kind of blows me away how much more I prefer my set-up over the $7,000 M226Be floor standers. I never expected this... Would be interesting to see if I'd feel the same way if I had the F226Be in my listening space. Also makes me wonder if the Revel PerformaBe M126Be bookshelf speakers would offer much more detail, clarity and texture without the bloom. Basically - much better balance...especially when paired with a good subwoofer to round out the bottom end. ...as always, your demos are the best on KZbin.

[@hi-techfilmmaker5682]

speaker placement for different speakers makes a difference too

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

I would hope any speaker in your home stereo would sound better than a recording on yt of a mic'd speaker.

[@craigjohnchronicles2504]

@@rockmusicvideoreviewer896 - you would hope. Depends on the speakers and room. You’d be surprised how many good systems have poor speaker placement or they’re simply too big for the room. That out of the way, you can get a damn good idea how the speakers will sound with a good YT recording/presentation. Certainly good enough to decide whether you want to audition them in your own home.

[@rockmusicvideoreviewer896]

@@craigjohnchronicles2504 I disagree. It is impossible to get any idea. You are always going to end up listening to your speakers of an inferior recording of a recording you would normally play, such as on your CD or vinyl.

[@craigjohnchronicles2504]

@@rockmusicvideoreviewer896 - As it's suggested - get good set of neutral headphones, and you'll "get an idea"...