Revelation

[@watchmanbiblestudy57]

I hadn't really thought of it that way before, that the main rapture perspectives are really kind of "pre-wrath" and it's about where the timing of the day of the Lord is that shifts them around the 70th week of Daniel. It's just getting past some of the generalizations of terms and clearly defining each one from scripture that I think is necessary. I've been trying to do that, but I'm always learning there's always more to learn. I define the hour of temptation when looking at the subject of this time, "which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." Every human being dwells on the earth so it would follow that the only way to be kept from this time would be to not be on the earth. I used to hold the pre-trib view long ago because that's what I had been taught and one of the first things I had to do was separate Satan's wrath from God's wrath and really define the terms to get past the whole idea of the 70th week of Daniel being "the tribulation." Satan's wrath is for God's people, God's wrath is coming on the whole world. In the context of Bible prophecy, Satan's wrath comes in the midst of the week after the abomination of desolation. [Daniel 9:27] This is followed by the signs of the sixth seal leading to the beginning of the day of Christ (escape of the bride [Luke 21:29-36 | Revelation 7:9-17]) and the day of the Lord (God's wrath for the whole earth [Isaiah 2:12-21 | Isaiah 13:6-11 | Revelation 6:12-17]). I believe the day of the Lord is to the bride a glorious day and to the world sudden destruction. I also find it interesting that Revelation 7 is nestled between the celestial signs and the declaration of God's wrath arriving in Revelation 6 and the beginning of the trumpets and sudden destruction in Revelation 8. Revelation 7 looks at the children of Israel at that time, explicitly saying not to hurt the earth or sea or trees until the 144,000 are sealed. It's these very things affected by the first trumpet (1/3 trees burned up), trumpet 2 (mountain cast into sea turning to blood) followed by wormwood, etc. I believe these being sealed are part of those of the Jews that escape Jacob's trouble protected for 3.5 years. [Revelation 7:1-8 | Revelation 12:13-17] Then in the last half of Revelation 7, we see the countless number in heaven before the throne that came out of great tribulation. I don't think this order is a coincidence. If the "hour of temptation" is referring to Satan's wrath, the time of great tribulation, or Jacob's trouble, that is not on the whole earth, it is on a small subset of the population, initially focused in Judea and spreading. The unparalleled time of great tribulation has context and it's focused on the natural branches and the grafted wild branches, both of whom Satan hates. [Romans 11:13-27] Since God's wrath is coming on the whole world, that would lead me to define this time we escape as the day of the Lord and not the time of great tribulation, which I've not found a promise to escape from and which Revelation 7 states we come out of. Indeed our gathering together to meet the Lord is preceeded by the abomination of desolation that begins Satan's wrath [2 Thessalonians 2:1-5] so it would follow that we will go through great tribulation and be plucked off the earth prior to the hour of temptation that we are promised escape from. I think prying the idea of tribulation from the idea of God's wrath was key for me to start to understand more clearly. I was recently lead to focus back on this particular passage. Based on that study I think that, similar to a pre-wrath view of the catching away harmonizing the various pieces of scripture that cause the different trib-based catching away views, understanding the nuance of the two phases of the great tribulation helps to harmonize the hour of temptation. I've posted the results of my study (www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/Watchman/HourofTemptation.html), but in short the idea of temptation before Christ's ministry and in various places in scripture seems tied to keeping faith in God even at risk of personal loss. Whether that be monetary and lifestyle, friendship, family, or life, when posed with a choice between serving and obeying God and living eternally or serving yourself and living temporally. I believe there are two phases to the time of great tribulation, one focused on Israel in Judea (Revelation 12:12-16) and soon after focused on the remnant in the world once Israel is protected. (Revelation 12:17) The former is very short when looking at the exact day framework (www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/HIStoryOurFuture/ExactDayProphecies.html) from scripture and indeed Israel will be saved out of this time. It is the remainder of the 3 1/2 years where the mark is instituted and the choice to either capitulate and worship the beast or pay the ultimate price and keep the faith will try the souls of man. One will either save their life (temporally) and lose it (eternally), or lose their life (temporally) and save it (eternally). This is the hour of temptation. When faced with physical death will you deny God and lose your soul, or lose your life and save your soul? Will you be as Esau and sell your birthright for pottage to quiet your mortal stomach, or accept your birthright and suffer through the temporary mortal troubles? I believe the transition from phase 1 to phase 2 of the tribulation is the same time of the day of the Lord, the sign of the sixth seal and the protecting of the 144,000 and the rest of Israel in the wilderness and the catching away of the bride of Christ before the wrath comes. Revelation 7 shows this transition after the sixth seal in Revelation 6 and before the wrath in Revelation 8. The angels given to harm the earth and sea are even told to wait in this time between so the 144,000 can be sealed. I believe this harmonizes scripture in that the catching away of the bride is after the revealing of the man of sin at the abomination of desolation, which starts the time of Jacob's trouble and yet before the wrath of God heralded at the sixth seal. Everything transitions at the sixth seal. The day of the Lord is about to begin when Israel is protected from the dragon in the wilderness and the bride is caught up at Christ's coming in glory as He brings His wrath and removes His bride prior to it while protecting the 144,000 from it.

[@Morphwales]

Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast KEPT the WORD of my PATIENCE, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

[@wolfskitso]

Chris White...you rock..!!!! God bless you and your family and God bless your work...

[@kurakuson]

What? ! Chris White! What a pleasant surprise.

[@MattMorrisINTP]

Yeah it's great to have him back

[@180lifechange5]

Chris its nice to see you back.

[@gglesucks9462]

Glad to see your still around!

[@braddugas7756]

Always amazing teaching

[@ervinmatela1727]

Thanks Sir Chris wish to learn more

[@RJ-ku2mh]

Chris it is awesome to see you again man, it has been what feels like a very long time! God bless you for all you have done and continue to do for the body of Christ.

[@deaconkeith2722]

Good to hear from u big bro u are wise

[@tessw9744]

I connect Revelation 3:10 to what Jesus said in Luke 21:36. *Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.* I think it's about the purity of the Bride. Few will be alive when Jesus returns....and I think those who have died to self and become perfect (as the Bible calls Zecharias and Elizabeth and Job, blameless/perfect) will be protected from death during the Tribulation. He says He's coming back for a Bride who is spotless. God doesn't send us through the tribulation for kicks, I think it's a purification of the Body of Christ.

[@Morphwales]

Are not the 144000 the spotless?

[@Jesusexplains]

IF ANYONE has a "theory" that Rev3:10 is about Rapturing the church to keep her out of the great tribulation, they need to have other scriptures to PROVE ALL THINGS (1Thess5:3 KJV) - they need to PROVE their theory, which stands in contrast to what Jesus said in Matt24:29-31 KJV when he appears "in the clouds" to Rapture ALL believers "on the last day" (Jn6:39,40,44,54 KJV) - the one day - tone-time "first resurrection (Rev20:5 KJV) that happens when the sun and the moon go dark, and the stars fall from heaven, and there's a great earthquake (Rev6:12 Matt24:29-31 KJV) Sorry folks, there is NO PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE! Get ready to endure!

[@tessw9744]

I see Luke 21:36 connected to Revelation 3:10.

[@Jesusexplains]

@@tessw9744 Then are you saying that all the persecuted Christians throughout history were not counted worthy to escape “all these things”? Brother, correctly balanced scripture makes it abundantly clear that Christians, those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ and love not their lives, even unto death, are present on earth during the great tribulation (not the wrath that comes after the great tribulation). This video may be helpful in understanding the matter >>>kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn6ve3l3m8p5r8U

[@rexrosandich873]

People keep tryingto impose doctrine on the clear teachings in the text. Does anyone else think that maybe we're not supposed to know exactly when Rev. 3:10 happens? We know that Jesus's second coming is with the angels at the end of the age after all the signs that he foretold us about his coming have happened, but we don't know when exactly the "hour of trial" that we are "kept" from will be. Also, people shouldn't assume the only way to keep us from that hour and from God's wrath is to "rapture" us into heaven. God has proven though numerous examples that he can and does keep/protect his chosen people while we are still here on the earth without taking us into heaven, the most notable one being Passover, as well as his promise to protect those with his seal on their foreheads from the "locusts" that come out of the abyss in Revelation 9. I actually had a dream about Rev. 3:10, which was that I was taken to a place that was like the earth, but much smaller, and it was actually adjacent to the earth, and the only way to get there was to go through a brilliant shining light which gave a wonderful sense of joy and peace. Once I was there on this small separate earth-like place, I saw what looked like a beautiful and great city rising up from below, and just as I was admiring it (and trying trying to take a picture of it with my phone), I was thinking it was new Jerusalem, but I was suddenly given the understanding through the Holy Spirit that it was not what i thought it was, even though it looked heavenly with all the white and gold buildings and structures. Suddenly, there was war and instead of seeing this great circular floating city, I saw what I can only describe as a giant red and black UFO that was hovering there, and I could see the mark it made on the earth (mark of ther beast? ). I don't know what all of this means, except that I believe those who are "kept" during the hour of trial are not going to be in heaven, but instead will be present to witness the rise of this FALSE new Jerusalem, while being kept seperate from the rest of the world and from being deceived by it, and in fact we will war agaisnt it as it's true nature will eventually be revealed. I hope these words bless anyone who's reading them. Shalom.

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

Rex Rosandich said “Also, people shouldn't assume the only way to keep us from that hour and from God's wrath is to "rapture" us into heaven. God has proven though numerous examples that he can and does keep/protect his chosen people while we are still here on the earth without taking us into heaven…” It’s not an assumption because Jesus instructed his followers to watch and pray to be counted worthy to escape all the things that are coming, which fits his promise to keep faithful Philadelphian saints away from the time of testing for everyone dwelling on the earth. Also, Dan 7, Matt 24 and Rev 13 show that Satan will have power over everyone dwelling on earth and nearly exterminate the elect. The only things that saints will be spared from are the physical torments of the 5th Trumpet Judgement, 1st Bowl of Wrath, and being thrown into the lake of fire at the second coming, which explains why heaven prophesied woes for those dwelling on the planet in Rev 12 before the Rapture.

[@deltadom33]

What I find so interesting 🧐 Is that this is specifically written to the church in Philadelphia Rev 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; Rev 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Rev 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. Rev 3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Why did they not choose the church at Smyrna Rev 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death Rev 2:12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; Rev 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. Rev 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. Rev 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. Rev 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. As isn’t it eiseges identifying with the church at Philadelphia rather that at Smyrna as to the church at Smyrna it says this Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life They don’t identify with the church at Smyrna and say the church should go through tribulation 10 days To me I find Rev 3:10 an absurd verse to use.

[@MarkProffitt]

❓ QUESTION : Where does the Bible say it's 7 years? Revelation says many times it's only 3.5 years / 42 months / 1260 days.

[@bobbylamgtanjh9942]

Rev 3:10 is not a rapture passage. Keep = cause to continue in a specified condition, position, course, etc. Keep is not a removing.

[@MattMorrisINTP]

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[@joephillips8098]

Hi Chris, your 8-part series on Mystery Babylon was very helpful. It helped me to understand some things that seemed obvious, once you pointed them out. I'd like to suggest that you review this video on Rev 3;10 and try to put yourself in the place of the viewer. You seem hurried and your haste causes some verbal miscues. You understand your subject matter but your mind seems to be racing from point to point. It's a bit confusing for the listener at times. If you slow down and make this 17 min video 2 minutes longer, that would be ok. Your respect for the The Word of God is appreciated.

[@MarkProffitt]

Dying before the testing happens keeps people from the time of testing. Going to some protected area or angelic protection can also keep people from testing.

[@Jesusexplains]

From the comment made @ 3:15 WHERE IN SCRIPTURE can anyone PROVE (1Thess5:21 KJV) that the 7th TRUMP introduces the 7 BOWLS (the 7 VIALS of God's Wrath) I can't find it. Can ANYONE SHOW ME?

[@patrickedgington5827]

Hey Chris this is a comment on a different matter.....you said kind of in passing in an earlier pod cast that the antichrist would conquer ten kingdoms.... I dont see it that way and have commented previously in that regard. Here is the why....first three horns are torn up by the roots.... When we see the beast at the end he has ten horn 9 that are normal and the little horn/himself but the three he displaced were there before he was. 9 plus 3 = 12 and that is a significant number considering that his wars have led to a reestablished Israel. I want to suggest that after the wars are won and the lands claimed by him they are divided into the tribal allotments with a king/ruler over each and it is from these the 9 remaining kings are left..... I do however have something to say concerning testing and earth dwellers. A great many seams to think that if you believe in God and you agree Yashua is His Christ and you say as much to others you're saved.... A closer reading of scripture should make clear that is not the case. Christianity is about becoming a new creation....the process of which is laid out for us by our Lord lest any should doubt when Nicodemus asks the very question what do I have to do to be saved.... He is told you need to be born again..... If that happens you are no longer Adamic alone....you are still able to live in your old nature but not comfortably....some change may happen quickly some may not happen in this lifetime but there is more going on than an intellectual agreement....as such when we as sons of God undergo testing the result is going to be quite different than when a person of Adamic nature goes through the same.... One of the motivations of the pre trib crowd seems to me to be they are afraid.... I found it amazing that these teachers know full well its poppy cock and yet boldly proclaim it....but they have something to gain in doing so.....the people they receive a lot of money from dont want to face the truth. Chris here I am again after two years and watching this again it seems to me the this may not even be speaking to the church at all? I will keep you could be referring to those who have been mark at the six seal. The 144000 that remain on earth through the wrath are in fact kept? The church is raptured before the wrath; if that is the testing referenced and it does sound as though it could be?

[@Jurleena1]

Beautifully said, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@pontiac411]

There is no proof text for any rapture what so ever, only the removal of the saints at Christs 2nd coming after the tribulation... Mathew 24:Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

[@Mike65809]

I never did think the hour of testing was the Day of the Lord, which I assume is when Jesus comes back, according to 1Thess. 5:1-3, and 2 Thess. 2:1-3. Not sure why you think that. To me an hour of testing can hardly be the destruction that occurs when Jesus comes back - no testing involved in that. I always associated it with the Tribulation, including the plagues, trumpets, etc.

[@simongeorge2376]

JAY-Z is God of the earth in the book of Revelation. I know this because I have the name “Jesus” on my thigh. Apocalypse/Revelation 19:16 says on His robe and thigh is a name written: KING OF KINGS LORD OF LORDS. Donald Trump is a beast in Apocalypse!