REVERSE OSMOSIS MYTHS! (The Truth Behind Remineralization, Waste Water, And More)

[@riderpaul]

Minerals in the water are not about nutrition. It's about osmotic pressure. Osmotic pressure is a real thing. I would be fine with him saying that there is enough particulate matter left in the water so there is no concerned but that's not what he said. He was talking about pure water. People shouldn't drink distilled water because of the effect of osmotic pressure on cells.

[@TankMAIN877]

There is literally no minerals in tap water to begin with and if so its 0.1mg if that. In australia they reported recently that there is heaps of cancer causing substances in our water and a lot of water around the world. Would you rather have cancer causing micro plastics or RO water you decide.

[@riderpaul]

@@TankMAIN877 you clearly did not understand what I was saying. The point is that remineralization is not about nutrition, it's about osmotic pressure. Chemistry 101. I 100% agree that reverse osmotic filtering is the way to go. Try drinking distilled water or RO water without remineralization. That dry sensation are cells in you throat popping as they try to normalize the relative concentrations. 0.1 mg of salts in the your glass of water makes all the difference.

[@erlendse]

@@riderpaul It's nowhere near enough minerals to matter much regarding osmotic pressure. You can run a home reverse osmosis system at some less than some few bar of pressure, while sea-water takes a LOT of pressure to filter. Besides the body is evolved to deal with clean water(rain, surface water etc). After drinking water, it gets mixed with dissolved stuff inside the body. It won't remain super-clean after drinking.

[@Clandestinemonkey]

@@riderpaul I've never experienced a 'dry sensation' drinking RO water. I think you are full of shit.

[@farrellteam2927]

@@TankMAIN877 it's almost impossible to find unbuffered water in nature. Pure water has a 7.0 pH. Tap water is buffered with mostly calcium and magnesium which is why a TDS meter will never display zero. Buffered water has a higher pH and that alkalinity is a good thing.

[@gassmartglobal]

Fantastic video worth watching made easier to understand RO drinking water. Thank you.

[@Pepeekeo808]

Why does your "favorite system" have a PLASTIC pitcher? Why not use Borosilicate Glass for the pitcher like BLUEUVA?

[@WiggumPI007]

What system is best to remove fluoride?

[@Epictetus888]

Apparently there are preservative chemicals on reverse osmosis membrains that can cause cancer and infertility! I've read that you really need to flush them. But does that really help.

[@ricklapointe4722]

Can you link to something on this?

[@Akkuwechsler]

Link???

[@ThatZenoGuy]

You should usually flush ANY filter before drinking from it. Once flushed it should be safe.

[@haotran3279]

So is it better to be drinking Distilled water over other waters like purified or spring water since distilled water is pure water?

[@marcussmart3275]

No, distilled water wants minerals. It will strip them from your teeth and bones. The red cap tells of danger.

[@edwardwahnstrom6907]

​@@marcussmart3275 that is a total myth. Distilled water is fine to drink. RO water is basicly distilled water.

[@marcussmart3275]

@@edwardwahnstrom6907 I have personally experienced tooth pain until I remineralized my teeth after drinking distilled for a week. That's why it has a red cap, to warn of danger.

[@meatball6930]

@@edwardwahnstrom6907they’re not even close bro. You sound stupid-this is like saying a Lamborghini and a 10 speed bike are the same thing. I’ve known 2 people who died from drinking nonstop distilled water. They were rich people. Their teeth started to go after 4-5 years and then both died of a hole in their stomach and sepsis. Scared the crap out of me-their stories were exactly the same. They both bought distilled water at store and both had a distilling machine at home but took awhile to make so they always had store bought back up. I wouldn’t ever drink distilled water. I did on accident because my brother has it to clean his cpap & it got mixed up with our regular drinking water bottles and i got diarrhea bad. If you need cleaned out drink that stuff but the lining in your gut doesn’t like that stuff.

[@onebicycle3772]

There is one vlog that I watched regarding RO. She said there is a cancer causing chemical found after RO. Is it true?

[@sarunyuthepbunchonchai7431]

This is the best educational video after my researching about RO water purifier system. You guys help me easily decide what system I should buy for my new home. Thank you so much for you good work 🙏🏻👍🏻

[@user-lq3dj3eo8k]

Help: In searching on the lab results for AquaTru I could not find testing and removal for Haloacetic acids (HAA5) Haloacetic acids (HAA9) or cyanide, these are all found in high amounts in my city tap water. I did find all other contaminants specific to my tap water. Thanks for a really good discussion. I understand you cannot cover every detail but would appreciate a response.

[@misternils]

look at the size of these molecules compared to the membrane holes in reverse osmosis and you will have your answer.

[@Freshnss]

Reverse Osmosis is generally known to remove HAA5 whether or not they are specifically marketed or certified as such, though it's not 100% effective. The EPA is working on a draft to classify and test RO units and HAA5 removal will likely be part of that spec once finalized. After that, we'll be able to refer to the EPA labeling for units for sale.

[@brendavanderford4214]

⁠@@Freshnss Who should we follow so we are privy to the EPS test results? Thank You for equipping us with valuable information

[@brendavanderford4214]

EPA

[@Daniel_Adam]

For all those who are worried about getting rid of the good things in water! Think about the bad things that you're getting rid of 1st. It's not difficult to remineralise your water! Get an RO system people and your body and mind will thank you for it.🙂

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

you just look up how much of those minerals are nice to have per day an just find out what to eat to get them even without mineral filled water hehe

[@ULTRAFILTERS]

"remineralise" please read about it, this is not safe way to get minerals, as they could be either too much or too little, or contaminated etc.... the best to get minerals with water, installing good carbon filters, sediment filters and Ultrafiltration membrane.

[@ULTRAFILTERS]

here is quick video about "Remineralization a Marketing Gimmick? Are Minerals from Remineralized RO Water Bioavailable?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKbEg6Gni7yCgZY

[@SpykerSpeed]

Amazing interview. This is exactly what I was looking for!

[@suzanneb6608]

This article was incredibly helpful, thank you!

[@Freshnss]

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[@joecal2360]

This guy's a straight shooter. Very refreshing (pun intended).

[@michaell1665]

Great interview! Really eye-opening!

[@policestate4874]

Good video, good guest/speaker

[@Freshnss]

Thanks!

[@CoffeeNo0b0514]

Quinton trace minerals are insanely expensive

[@ShazWag]

Wouldn't adding marine-sourced minerals reintroduce microplastics into your RO-filtered water? 💧🤔

[@Freshnss]

Unfortunately microplastics are a big problem. Recent testing shows that most human populations have nano/microplastics in our bodies already. There isn't a good recommendation yet for microplastics, as even most filtration treatment options are made from plastic which can also leach particles.

[@ptlforever123]

Chee4s

[@IsaacRocco]

I think bro has been mewing

[@user-lq3dj3eo8k]

This is a really good discussion, however the same standards that you are using to judge water filters, applies to the RO systems. How do we know the RO filters are what they are claiming to be. I could use a good filter, which I already have and simply change out the filters more often. With RO I am simply taking the word of the seller that these are indeed good filters and could also be misleading. Frankly the sites that I have looked at shopping for RO system very rarely give actual contaminants the system removes. This is the first time I have heard anyone say RO systems remove virtually all contaminants. Hype or reality?

[@ulankussaiyn7348]

There are like 3-4 companies that produce the actual membranes. Do not get some proprietary RO system, but a standard housing with 1812 membrane, replace membranes once a year with DOW Filmtec membranes, 1812-75 is pretty standard. 1812 is the housing and 75 is the GPD of the membrane. Get a permeate pump for best efficiency and you are golden.

[@user-lq3dj3eo8k]

wow, that is some awesome infor@@ulankussaiyn7348

[@policestate4874]

so me aquasauna seems to have the most reputable certifications I could find, plus its on sale right now for like 60% off. NSF and ansi certification seems to be the best standard of proof that the filter does what it claims. Express water filter seems to have the certifications approved by a 3rd party against nsf/ansi standards but doesnt seem to actually say if is recognized by nsf/ansi qualifications. Express waters third party qualifier seems fairly legit like you can call them and investiagte them if you feel inclined and it seems they will reply etc etc, some form of seemingly decent tracibility. Aquasauna though is tested by a 3rd party (WQA water quality association, same one the guy in this video says he posesses), but it seems their qualification is actually recognized as met by nsf/ansi and marked in their book, vs tested against as express water seems to say. NSF/ansi has a log online you can view to see every ro filter company that has passed soe of their various testing qualifications. There were a few water brands, some meets more standards then others. Aquasauna was the main one i was looking at. I should go look more closely at some of the other companies thea nsf/ansi has in its log as meeting there quality standards. At least this seems to be the pinacle of choosing ro filters that i have found yet.

[@Adrienne1969]

⁠@@policestate4874how do you like aquasauna? I’m looking into getting a water filter for my sink. I just need for drinking water and the enter house.

[@cupidok2768]

does the interviewer have a channel. i need to sub

[@IUTIUBES]

Best video I found so far related to RO. Thank you for the knowledge and common sense.

[@christopherfox8950]

is the waterdrop gp3 600 tankless RO system a good choice?

[@Freshnss]

Tankless RO systems are great but they fill a niche for when you can't install something under the sink. They're much slower due to the lack of a holding tank.

[@SaSonSi8]

Could you please respond to the person who posted the comment I"m posting below? Or respond to this comment please. Thank you! Minerals in the water are not about nutrition. It's about osmotic pressure. Osmotic pressure is a real thing. I would be fine with him saying that there is enough particulate matter left in the water so there is no concerned but that's not what he said. He was talking about pure water. People shouldn't drink distilled water because of the effect of osmotic pressure on cells.

[@logiclock9483]

would distilled water not be better than RO since it removes everything?

[@Freshnss]

It depends on what you're trying to filter. Both distilled water and RO are not 100% complete when it comes to removal. RO is less energy intensive but produces wastewater. Distillation can't remove VOCs with lower boiling points as the vapors re-condense and remain in the water. Both are very effective if you are doing broad filtration with unknown water.

[@logiclock9483]

@@Freshnss distillation removes everything except voc's and you can remove them with post carbon filtration

[@TonyYoung808]

"less than 1% of the total water used ... is consumed" You haven't seen my wife's plant obsession. How would you factor irrigation before sunrise? I'm thinking 15% consumed and the rest evaporated or drained.

[@HealthyLivesJourney]

I loved this interview. So much good information. I do have two questions. I'm hearing that RO and other water systems can produce water that is acidic and that is not good for your stomach, intestines, and kidneys. Is that true and is it good to get an RO system that balances the pH levels to a more alkaline 7.5 area? Second... I have a small undersink area so I need a tankless system. The Waterdrop 800 is out of my price range.... I'm considering the Waterdrop G3P600, the Frizzlife PD600-TAM3, and the Brio Prism 600GPD or the Brio Aquus 600 GPD.... do you have any preference? or at least any I should put higher or lower on my list? Thank you.

[@Freshnss]

Balancing your water's pH isn't really necessary though there is some evidence that more alkaline water has benefits. You don't balance the pH of spaghetti sauce or lemonade, right? Of the three models you listed, they're all good choices. I lean towards the WaterDrop because it has a separate RO filter and you don't have to replace everything at once like with the other two.

[@HealthyLivesJourney]

@@Freshnss- Thank you so much for your reply. I didn't think of it that way. You're right, I eat and drink acidic things all the time. I'm glad you are a thoughtful voice of reason on the topic of water to help navigate the plethora of information out there. And thank you for sharing your leanings towards the WaterDrop. That's where I think my husband and I were heading. Your input from your professional point of view is definitely a help as we make our decision. Thank you again for all your great information on this video and all you do.

[@ethanlantz6553]

Also keep in mind that pH is a logarithmic scale, meaning that each level is an order of magnitude separated from the next level in either direction. Your stomach has a pH around 2, which is orders of magnitude more acidic than RO water.

[@jeffreybuckmaster4600]

​@Freshnss yes, I learned in Italy they add a bit of baking soda when cooking Spaghetti sauce.

[@Jodinumber99]

Water drop k19 is good?? If not which one is good? Counter top only pls? Suggestion in low budget

[@TankMAIN877]

Like they are going to tell you with 100s of comments just search reviews on youtube.

[@GTR4CRM]

Thank you - amazing educational video

[@samaelmartinus3273]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIDYdmWLlNR2hsUsi=nvCVazYXqUpkkwKT Heres a shorter video

[@Tech4HealthProducts]

Minerals are essential for hydration. Electrolytes are basically mineral salts that improve absorption. Water without trace minerals are not as nature intended it. Reverse osmosis water without minerals is basically like drinking distilled water. Minerals make all the difference

[@-ilkis-]

Hi! Do you recommend an RO system that has a mineralize step? Or better to add the minerals externally?

[@Freshnss]

If you are concerned about remineralization, drops will be the most effective. In-line remineralization won't be able to add a significant amount of minerals back to the water as it needs long contact time but it's usually enough to make it taste better. In our informal testing we typically only see 10-50ppm of remineralization. For reference, bottled mineral water can contain up to 2,000ppm.

[@TankMAIN877]

@@Freshnss Dosn't RO water pull minerals out of the body though ? He never mentioned anything about that. Because the water our of RO system is acidic yes ?

[@ThatZenoGuy]

@@TankMAIN877 RO water does not pull minerals out of your body. If it did, your stomach (PH of 2) would rip every bit of mineral out of your body in a day lmao.

[@naturalsynth3tics439]

how does GrowMax RO systems work?

[@biggetl1319]

My wife wanted a ro unit, I was totally against It because they are so wasteful. I did cave and bought a Waterdrop 1:1. After listening to the video, I feel a little better about it now.

[@Saki630]

yikes beta male

[@scentlessscents699]

Love listening to intelligent people..

[@1989ALN]

What is he saying you can use to remineralize? I can’t understand the word he’s saying.

[@jimwing.2178]

QUINTON Marine Plasma

[@7325NN114]

Can you tell us something about vitalized drinking water? Water must also have certain electrical charges.

[@Freshnss]

If you are referring to hexagonal or structured water, we haven't seen any evidence that such a structure exists. There are no tests for the claims made by vitalizer companies for structure. On the other hand, adding oxygen, hydrogen, changing pH (ionized) are all easily tested and can be confirmed.

[@garagesale5948]

What about Ph level?

[@truesimplicity]

How does it compare to Water distillers?

[@Freshnss]

There are other videos and websites that talk about the differences. They both purify water but in very different ways and pros and cons for each. You should select based on what's in your source water.

[@captaincommodore8901]

hydration needs salts and minerals

[@Freshnss]

The World Health Organization has several studies that conclude that the majority of salts and minerals are (and should) come from diet and not water. However, water can be a great supplemental source of salts and minerals! As is usually the case, it really depends on each situation.

[@RT-qz5ci]

Here’s what I know, I drank pure RO for several days once and I felt awful. Restless legs, fast heart beat, palpitations, trouble sleeping etc. Switched back to regular water and I was fine. RO definitely reduces electrolytes in the body.

[@TankMAIN877]

Have you tried RO again or are you convinced its not good ?

[@RT-qz5ci]

@@TankMAIN877 I added a remineralization filter and have tried it again. No issues this time. I also supplement electrolytes everyday. Something I think everyone should do. That’s my experience if it helps at all.

[@Sadequ]

Thanks for sharing your experience, but minerals are also in food, if you only eat junk food you will feel bad, but if you eat healthy and natural food, vegetables and fruits, it will give you all the minerals.

[@NiranjanNanda]

For Myth-1, just have 1 or 2 tbsp of “Dr Berg’s Electrolyte powder” with water…that’ll take care of whole day’s need 😃

[@user-po7iv4ni3o]

Only if you're willing to funnel your money to the Church of Scienceless-tology 😉

[@SandraV-vt4ec]

Use Redmond lyte for electrolytes. They are a family owned in Utah

[@jimwing.2178]

Be wary of anything that Dr Berg says/offers. Dr Berg’s Electrolyte powder is more than twice as expensive as drops from other companies, plus Dr. Berg's has flavoring and sweetners (yuck).

[@vrva3138]

Nobody tells you about the toxic solution they put in the RO system to preserve it while shipping. Most of them contain Methylene chloride.

[@SandraDevant]

OMG really ?

[@ThatZenoGuy]

So just flush it a couple of times like you're supposed to?

[@GabrielSBarbaraS]

The Nelsen quick change Twist & Loc reverse osmosis (RO) system you connected me with has been operating for a few months now and seems to be working well. I installed myself, what I am inclined to note here is that I added an air space between the RO rinse water and drain. Also I do add about a dash of Himalayan pink salt to each gallon of RO water for remineralization. After listening to your post here, maybe I can even do away with that. ( Much easier than carrying 5 gallon containers of water from the store every few days )

[@Freshnss]

Hey Gabriel - I am glad to hear you love they system! It is a great tank based option. And the Himalayan salt is a great natural method for remineralization. Thank you for sharing and let me know if I can help out with anything else 🙌

[@robertslovak1013]

A couple of comments...1) Forget Himalayan pink salt...even as a minimal source of trace elements. It’s proven to be both inadequate and nconsistent (as is all mined salt source). ONLY ocean-derived minerals & trace elements provide the full Periodic Table of the Elements (not including gases, of course). The absolute best is QUINTON Hypertonic liquid in 10 ml sachets or glass ampoules and liter sizes as well (very economical). The second best is well-known Celtic Sea Salt which is not as bioavailable as QUINTON (and lacking organic micronutrients) but it still provides most of the Periodic Table of the Elements.

[@GabrielSBarbaraS]

Thanks for the new update and information on remineralization. @@robertslovak1013

[@erlendse]

@@robertslovak1013 Why would you want the full periodic table? Better to focus on what was around during evolution, if you seek what is needed.

[@nancyrendel3338]

I did not agree with your "waste water" frame of mind opinion until you mentioned using the rinse water for your pond, or garden or to mop. I believe most people feel rinse water would be wasted if it were to go straight down the drain... Great video!

[@einstein3509]

So what RO system would you consider to be a well designed system to buy? I live in town (city water living in the USA) what do you recommend for an under the sink drinking water RO system?

[@Freshnss]

We did a review of several systems here: freshnss.com/best-reverse-osmosis-drinking-water-system-reviews/

[@dianabernal3680]

Excellent video about water!!!! Pure water is H2O that is what we need, the purpose of water is hydration no nutrition!!!

[@robertjacoby2927]

If this guy speaks any slower I'm gonna have a stroke.

[@juliachavez8]

don't be an ass, he may have a disability or age may be an issue but we need to thankful for all the good information. Some people are too much to deal with and that's you lol

[@slaw8609]

So water is just dead liquid to this guy...

[@NuMwhan-bg4fq]

The guy is right.

[@slaw8609]

@@NuMwhan-bg4fq ya may wanna look into that ..

[@AlissaLeeNicholson]

If you remove bacteria, viruses, micro plastics, chemicals, etc, of course you will remove larger particle sizes. That’s the trade-off. And he’s saying the minerals in the water are not great enough to make a difference in your health. You CAN STILL ADD these minerals and nutrients, after you filter the water, should you choose, you can also get minerals from other sources

[@jesusmalverde612]

​@@AlissaLeeNicholsonI been drinking reverse osmosis water for about 3 days now and all my joints have been hurting

[@ThatZenoGuy]

@@jesusmalverde612 Nonsense.

[@Xstation20]

Guy took a long time to put a sentence. Playing this back a 1.5x is a must

[@paulpells1864]

Great details thanks. Surely distilled water is the best, removing all contaminants? Yes it takes power I acknowledge that and it takes a long time to get especially if you have a family.

[@Daniel_Adam]

It comes down to what will be easy to do. I don't think you can get a distilled system which fits under a sink. If you don't mind it sitting on your countertop consuming power then yes .... oh you have to remineralise the water if you continue to drink distilled water for a long time.

[@paulpells1864]

@@Daniel_Adam Thanks. No correct on that :). As I read some years ago when asking if distilled was okay, the general view was we get our vitamins & minerals from our food, and the amount in water is no where near the RDA. I just got the K19 yesterday. Pretty pleased with its functions but TDS doesn't show after set up which is disappointing. ITS very quiet and I want to take it on holiday now lol.

[@jimwing.2178]

@@paulpells1864 Don't neglect the effect of osmosis inside the body after consumption of RO water. For a visual demonstration, see 2:50 of kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHWnooxtfr-brrM

[@46L482]

To fill the RO for a quarter of a 5 gallon you waste 6 gallon 5 gallon of water

[@Freshnss]

RO does generate waste water as part of the permeate filtering process. Most systems will tell you the filtered to waste ratio. However we aren't aware of any systems that produce 6 or 5 gallons of waste for a "quarter of a 5 gallon".

[@46L482]

@Freshnss you can buy distilled water and put minerals back in. For less than 1.00 a gallon

[@stevenglockner]

And you have to drive to the store to get it. Carry your water. It’s also probably in plastic jugs so you’re getting micro plastics in your water. My home ro under the sink system with a tank cost a couple hundred dollars. It’s worth it for me.

[@46L482]

@@stevenglockner everything you buy today has chemicals in it. You would be surprised how many materials have plastic in them.

[@jimwing.2178]

@@stevenglockner I have to go to the store to get groceries anyway. Or somebody has to drive to the store and then to my house to deliver the groceries. I carry the water in glass containers that I have been using for several years. They won't be wearing out in my lifetime. But I do have to carry the water from my car to my kitchen. It's worth it to me because I never have to worry about the RO system breaking down, needing maintenance, or replacing filters/membrane.