Review: 2025 Subaru Forester Sport - Underwhelming

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Matt Maran Motoring

Matt Maran Motoring

Күн бұрын

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@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 9 күн бұрын
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@kevinnorris6558
@kevinnorris6558 3 ай бұрын
The infotainment in my 2018 WRX was incredibly slow and laggy so I'm not surprised that Subaru wouldn't do much to actually fix that. That said, they really should put more effort into their infotainment given that it controls the climate controls now. Given that so many comparable SUV's in America have an AWD option now, I don't know why anyone would choose the Subaru tbh
@taelee347
@taelee347 3 ай бұрын
Haven't bought a new Subaru since 2014 for my wife's Forester XT.... still holding onto that car and my 2006 STI but unless something changes I don't think I will be back buying another Subie. Just because you put a "Sport" badge doesn't make it any sporty... it is a far cry from older turbo Foresters.
@MrGoodH
@MrGoodH 3 ай бұрын
I’m getting huge 2014 Mitsubishi outlander vibes from the rear!
@wg5331
@wg5331 3 ай бұрын
At this point, it’s not acceptable for the screen to still be so laggy. My 2021 Outback had the same screen and after a couple years of ownership, it always frustrated me, especially with the climate controls. I know there had some software updates over the years to help, but to see the lag in the video gave me flashbacks of frustration 😂
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 ай бұрын
Toyota offers a Yaris in Japan without an Infotainment screen for 11k. With all the BS of the car industry that is my dream car now.😂
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
I wish Subaru would quit tripling-down on this non-ubiquitous screen of theirs. We like the big clear carplay in our 2023 Outback Premium, but HATE the HVAC and seat heaters being screen buttons. Subaru needs to come out with a next-generation infotainment screen that puts the HVAC back to physical controls. And speeds up the actual screen itself, most competitors have very fast units now.
@wg5331
@wg5331 3 ай бұрын
@@thatoneotherotherguy Exactly, and to think the HVAC system is better than it originally was on the screen. When it came out, the fan speed buttons were so tiny. You had to concentrate kinda hard to make sure you were tapping them when driving. They need to buff on the speed drastically. Even the system in my father’s 2016 Colorado is noticeably quicker…
@schellingrs
@schellingrs 3 ай бұрын
Matt deserves TRIPLE the subscribers count.
@_IIN01
@_IIN01 3 ай бұрын
The interior is so boring imo… that vertical screen with the big black borders and vents is starting to look lazy.
@TonyTenor3000
@TonyTenor3000 3 ай бұрын
That’s my favorite screen layout. Of all of the screens out there, at least Subaru tends to put it as close to where your hand would be while resting on the stick. It’s even more convenient to reach than Tesla’s. I think it’s much better than the higher, landscape screens that are farther to reach, have smaller screens and icons, and you can’t rest your arm on the stick - like you see in Hondas and Toyotas. I’ll move on from Subie if they drop the big vertical screens. I also don’t get the resolution complaints. I have good vision, I can’t say I’ve ever noticed any issues. Google Maps and other apps look just fine, and I love the big icons. Impossible to miss with your fingers. You could solve that wireless charger issue with a thin layer of rubber. That wouldn’t affect the power transfer.
@TumblingMustard
@TumblingMustard 3 ай бұрын
The Subaru design team has entirely lost the plot. Some of the worst looking cars on the road.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 3 ай бұрын
Not entirely. Solterra though is ugly
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that haha.
@RichardJoashTan
@RichardJoashTan 3 ай бұрын
And I am happy that I will buy the 2025 Forester anyway. FOR GOOD.
@RichardJoashTan
@RichardJoashTan 3 ай бұрын
​@@MattMaranMotoring Not me, I love Subaru and I will buy the 2025 Forester.
@Camsimsy2k
@Camsimsy2k 3 ай бұрын
I love all subarus and this looks very nice!!! Yall with hate on everything
@nintendoatarikiller
@nintendoatarikiller 3 ай бұрын
Another banging front end design by the blue oval 🔥
@frankdeboer1347
@frankdeboer1347 3 ай бұрын
You mean by the RAV 4 team.
@Vlican
@Vlican 3 ай бұрын
Looks like a ford explorer up front
@Alan-z7i6t
@Alan-z7i6t 22 күн бұрын
Sport- no turbo - in name only
@ConfirmedPatriot
@ConfirmedPatriot 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for an honest review. We need reviews like yours to hold manufacturers to a higher standard. Seems like they are not listening hard enough to their customers.
@nancyisshopping7950
@nancyisshopping7950 28 күн бұрын
I LOVE the bronze! I have to wonder if in 15 years it will look dated like the panelling on the old station wagons....but I still love it. :)
@FrankZR1
@FrankZR1 3 ай бұрын
I didn't know Subaru collaborated with Ford to make an Explorer twin?
@frankdeboer1347
@frankdeboer1347 3 ай бұрын
The new explorer looks a 100 times better.
@frankdeboer1347
@frankdeboer1347 3 ай бұрын
You mean a RAV4 twin.
@TaffPlays
@TaffPlays 3 ай бұрын
Watching this review made me realise how much I love my manual 2006 Forester more than this new one.... Thank you, Matt for further confirming my thought that Subaru don't make cars like they used to anymore!
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I miss the old days of Subaru too!
@gregdamitz9381
@gregdamitz9381 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2004 Forester. I rented a 2025 Forester for a long road trip through mountains. Performance was fine. More room in the 2025 and it was wonderful not taking 10 steps to stand up straight after a 2 hour drive.
@ThatWasherNerd
@ThatWasherNerd 3 ай бұрын
It’s impressive how much Subaru lets its consumers down.
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
They must be doing something right. They sold 632k vehicles in the US last year, which was a 14% improvement over the prior year. Generally a good value brand, for people that just want affordable cubes with high quality AWD. Subaru has quite a lot of die-hard brand loyalists making repeat, repeat purchases.
@ThatWasherNerd
@ThatWasherNerd 3 ай бұрын
@@thatoneotherotherguy my bad: they’re letting their enthusiast crowd down
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
@@ThatWasherNerd I got to give them credit for keeping the BRZ and WRX around with sticks. And actual transaction prices of WRX's is quite affordable by modern standards, thousands below MSRP. They could be doing worse. I wish they would've slapped the 2.4t and WRX 6-speed in some other vehicle by now though. Manual Crosstrek Wilderness Turbo!
@ThatWasherNerd
@ThatWasherNerd 3 ай бұрын
@@thatoneotherotherguy That's all very true. It's easy to be negative. I'm on my third Subaru now, but I'm disappointed that they killed the STI, styling isn't great, and they've just nerfed all of their mainstream products.
@tomrakusan1179
@tomrakusan1179 3 ай бұрын
@@ThatWasherNerdnot really - have you driven the WRX? If not, stop. If yes, explain.
@boost331
@boost331 3 ай бұрын
Subaru needs to realize 180hp just doesnt cut it these days. That is especially true when paired with a horrible cvt. Hell, even the 2.4 turbo doesn't make enough power to be a brands top engine. Especially..... With a cvt. I could forgive the lack of keeping up with the times if subaru was super reliable. But thats not true either.
@TaffPlays
@TaffPlays 3 ай бұрын
If this was 20 years ago, then it will cut it. My 2006 has 162 hp out of it's 2.5L engine (mine is an AUSDM version, the US version only has 7 hp less than the 2025), and I bet it will be a bit faster than the new one due to how light it is. So 100% agree with you there.
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
Depends who you are. When we're talking AWD vehicles under $35k, I can make the apology. We love our 2023 Outback Premium 2.5L, was like $32k out the door new. I'm fine with an uphill highway onramp jaunt needing 4000RPM for the rest of this value machine. Plus, unlike the 2.4t, it can get well into the 30's on highway mpg. Subaru is painted into a corner. Boxers kinda suck, but it's their identity, and their whole AWD system is based around it.
@boost331
@boost331 3 ай бұрын
@@thatoneotherotherguy For the same price you can get a mazda with AWD and a turbocharged engine that makes plenty of power. Interior is way nicer as well.
@darrenmorreale1922
@darrenmorreale1922 3 ай бұрын
Have had three Subarus. 22 forester wilderness currently. Great vehicle but trading in years end. That ancient engine sucks. At 58 I feel like I need more and Subaru came up short. And where is the pick up. I get in this car and it ages u a decade. Engine just struggles.
@boost331
@boost331 3 ай бұрын
@@darrenmorreale1922 Fully agree my friend. I own 2 subarus currently. 1 is a 2022 BRZ. THAT is a car that subaru has done right..!! I know some people say it needs a turbo, but I disagree. I did some intake\exhaust\tune mods to mine and even without forced induction the car is incredible. The other one is a 2024 Impreza RS. It is another fairly weak NA engine, but I had hoped that the 2.5L engine in the small impreza that it would be adequate. I would say it is just barely that.... Adequate. I didnt but it for performance though. Its a slow, easy to drive AWD vehicle with great tech and safety features. My daughter will be driving soon and it will make a perfect 1st car for those reasons.
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review. I used to own a 2016 Subaru Forester 2.0 XT. It would be great if Subaru would bring back the XT with the newer 2.4 turbo and a better transmission. It will be interesting to see what the hybrid brings.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I'd love to see a new XT too, or even throw the turbo motor in the next Wilderness version.
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs 3 ай бұрын
@@MattMaranMotoring That would be really cool! 😎 👍
@RockMiach
@RockMiach 3 ай бұрын
Wow, that screen is slow! Glad my 86 has the old Subaru screen. Works great.
@gregdamitz9381
@gregdamitz9381 3 ай бұрын
😂😅
@alwaysiyi272
@alwaysiyi272 3 ай бұрын
I actua;;y really like how the new Forester looks, I just wish they had done more with the interior, this is the only vehicle in this segment that does not have a fully digital gauge cluster, even the 6 year old RAV4 has one, I think infotainment system needs an overhaul, the software just looks very old to me, very windows XP esque, and no hybrid is also a bummer
@DJL78
@DJL78 3 ай бұрын
I’m not convinced Subaru designers have fully functioning eyesight and find it ironic that they use the word ‘eyesight’ to describe their suite of safety systems. 😂😂
@androiduberalles
@androiduberalles 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if they're still like every other Subaru where they have awful heatshield rattle after a few years. It was absolutely embarrasing on my Legacy and I couldn't fix it no matter what I did.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm assuming these will do the same eventually. I can hear the sound from a mile away and I'll know there's a Subaru coming lol. It's a trademark at this point.
@androiduberalles
@androiduberalles 3 ай бұрын
@@MattMaranMotoring At least it's not just me 😂. It's either boxer rumble or heat shield rattle -> subaru.
@ThatWasherNerd
@ThatWasherNerd 3 ай бұрын
@@androiduberallesI have both on my WRX lol😅
@timflaherty2731
@timflaherty2731 3 ай бұрын
Really underwhelmed with this redesign. And the bronze accents on the Sport look terrible. Especially with colors that don't "match." After hitting such a home run with the Outback Wilderness, they really missed with this one. And they failed to address the biggest problem with the Forester which is that it is underpowered, especially at altitude.
@toobigtofit3584
@toobigtofit3584 3 ай бұрын
Always funny recognizing places around Pittsburgh in your videos. I've kinda grown to like the large screen in my 22 WRX. It is slow when you start yes, but I do like the real estate once you get into Android Auto.
@Thebuscommunityleader
@Thebuscommunityleader 3 ай бұрын
Great review & I really want to buy this badly.
@alexmassengale433
@alexmassengale433 3 ай бұрын
Those dated powertrains just aren't acceptable anymore when Honda, Kia, Hyundai, and Toyota have hybrid options that make more power while getting far better economy. In 2000 a Subaru Forester had a 2.5 l 4 that got 165 hp. Today they use a 2.5l 4 that gets 180. The mileage is improved but its still way below the hybrid competition. And it isn't like its a smooth powertrain either. The Subaru 4/CVT combination is much less smooth than the 4 cylinder hybrid system Honda has. The Subaru touchscreen control setup where many features that were buttons are now on the touchscreen is inferior to the setup from companies like Honda and Mazda which have real buttons.
@andrewalvarez5120
@andrewalvarez5120 3 ай бұрын
I literally don’t understand how Subaru hasn’t updated this infotainment, it’s a disgrace honestly . It’s literally the slowest operating system in any modern vehicle . And the peewee’s playhouse graphics are a joke . 😂
@DK-vx1zc
@DK-vx1zc 3 ай бұрын
Obviously not the right vehicle for a Mazda turbo fanboy
@hazdaz8578
@hazdaz8578 3 ай бұрын
Hey Matt, love your videos. How do you feel these new Foresters and the current Outback compare to the CX50? I'm having a real hard time deciding. This would be just my commuter vehicle with the occasional ski trip here in the Northeast. Both brands have their perks of course, and I've owned Subarus for many years, but I'm wondering if I should give another brand a try. Thanks!
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
The previous gen Forester was a total bargain of a vehicle, very well-priced. This new gen carries over the whole powertrain, makes it slightly bigger, and hikes the price by thousands, nearly destroying the value proposition. ....thanks, Subaru?
@RareGenXer
@RareGenXer 3 ай бұрын
It might be heavier but at least it has less power🙄
@UmbrellaCorporation6996
@UmbrellaCorporation6996 3 ай бұрын
I love my Subaru forester 2025. Don’t know why people hate it.
@crt15
@crt15 3 ай бұрын
The new Forester looks like a Ford and Honda had a love child, then the Fonda got catfished by a Toyota, and now we have a soulless Toyondard. I said it.
@aaronreed9863
@aaronreed9863 3 ай бұрын
Who TF asked for brown wheels? WTF Subaru?
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 ай бұрын
This is as much Sport as the base model Wrangler, which is also called Sport. Do they still make that? It's got features of hardcore race cars like no power windows.
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
They do still make a 2024 Sport Wrangler. Manual windows and locks, manual soft top... but a push-button start is standard, so you get a big hunk of a key fob with a switchblade key. A/C was finally made standard for 2023! They're frankly still good value.
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic
@OutsideTheTargetDemographic 3 ай бұрын
I daily a 2018 Forester base model, with the 6 speed manual (the last year they offered stick in America) The wife has a 2020 Outback Premium. Full up, two adults, two toddlers, 70 pound black lab, luggage to the ceiling, 80mph highway speeds across crosswind farmlands for 8 hours round trip, 31.8 mpg at the pump. Large enough for our needs, towing, snow eater. I don't understand the "lack of power" complaints, but the CVT is unnerving, especially coming from a manual transmission.
@chuckwalla2967
@chuckwalla2967 3 ай бұрын
Sports are now over $38K. No thanks.
@gregdamitz9381
@gregdamitz9381 3 ай бұрын
Not if you haggle. I got mine for slightly over $36 in Oregon.
@mike9588
@mike9588 3 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, didn’t bother to push the needle one bit played it ultra conservatively
@Nancoman
@Nancoman 3 ай бұрын
I own a 2015 Forester XT. The Forester is dead to me now. I am so mad at Subaru, they are ignoring my wishes.
@enonek2960
@enonek2960 3 ай бұрын
Head on it looks like a undercover Ford Explorer used by State Police. 🚓
@bryantcurtis7
@bryantcurtis7 3 ай бұрын
Yikes Subaru just doesn’t care because people still buy them for the off-road capability and safety instead of looks.
@TPersistent
@TPersistent 3 ай бұрын
If you feel that you need a little more off-the line performance, you can go for the Wilderness nodell, which will be peppier around town due to lower gearing, at axpense of fuel economy.
@ArtooDetour
@ArtooDetour 3 ай бұрын
This Subaru looks innovative and tech-forward.. if this were 2018.
@Suction_
@Suction_ 3 ай бұрын
looks way too much like an explorer in the front
@iforc
@iforc 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s a great looking Toyota Explorer…
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 ай бұрын
There were two paths ahead from F1 transmission innovation, CVT and DCT, both kinda suck in road cars.
@ChavaYang
@ChavaYang 3 ай бұрын
That bronze looks like someone plasticdip over it. Not good.
@augustb7535
@augustb7535 3 ай бұрын
180 hp. Towing is a joke. Design looks lazy (explorer vibes). Wilderness not offered.
@23kelboy
@23kelboy 3 ай бұрын
Nice
@hypershadow87
@hypershadow87 3 ай бұрын
*My thoughts on the 2025/2014 Ford Forrester Edge Sport: I think a lot of people will be moving out the way thinking it's a cop SUV. lol*
@digitaldoc100
@digitaldoc100 3 ай бұрын
Powertrain is underwhelming with a CVT. Hard pass.
@tomrakusan1179
@tomrakusan1179 3 ай бұрын
What too much criticism here. Subaru has massive advantages: low center of gravity boxer engines; amazing AWD; quality/reliability. These cars are unique - either like them or not. I get both sides. But, I am getting very tired of most comments here where people criticize for the sake of criticizing. Most comments are just corrosive, with no real information, or an educated opinion. Matt - your videos are great, objective, descriptive, honest - but all that seems to be lost on your viewers……hateful commentary seems to have invaded even your great channel.
@theofficialemergencyservic7881
@theofficialemergencyservic7881 3 ай бұрын
Red or blue would have looked better than bronze. And black rims or sti spec would have looked much better.
@im_an_alvani
@im_an_alvani 3 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe about my dad’s 23 Outback is the number of buttons on the steering wheel. No one needs that many options at their fingertips. It’s confusing to me because Subaru’s whole schtick is that it’s all about safety, but the steering wheel is one of the most distracting things about the car.
@SF.Automotive
@SF.Automotive 3 ай бұрын
I think you're exaggerating a bit. As an Enterprise employee who drives dozens vehicles every day, I can assure you that the number of buttons on the steering wheel on newer Subarus is not a significant problem for MOST people. The funniest part is that people complain when there aren't enough buttons, and then again when there are "too many." If the buttons are overwhelming, you can simply ignore the ones you don't need haha. I actually find that having multiple options at your fingertips can actually improve safety by minimizing distractions
@im_an_alvani
@im_an_alvani 3 ай бұрын
@@SF.Automotive I get that, but I think last time I counted 14 buttons, including all the buttons for the various safety features. Would make more sense to bury those in the infotainment and add tactile controls for things like climate control, volume, heated seats, etc.
@djsone3499
@djsone3499 3 ай бұрын
On a positive note, I think it's good they went with the somewhat subtle WRX style cladding. They could have brought it up to the hood like other models.
@pjbarney9580
@pjbarney9580 3 ай бұрын
what bronze accents?.... all I see is brown stuff everywhere
@peterpalov5157
@peterpalov5157 3 ай бұрын
I like the styling inside and out.
@davidmccarthy6061
@davidmccarthy6061 3 ай бұрын
We'll stick with our 2019 Sport. I see this new version looks like the Outback Limited loaner we have at the moment, with that larger center screen and button layout. It's fine, just different. But hopefully in 4-5 years Subie has a good BEV.
@TMS5100
@TMS5100 3 ай бұрын
Subaru design teams have given up on life.
@mstarr3469
@mstarr3469 3 ай бұрын
This is a lazy attempt at redesign. All subarus have same interior. Horsepower is lacking. I have 21 touring i bought because i believed the hype. The car has not been reliable. I still was open to replaxing with 2025 till i saw it. The price increase i could wrap my head around it. The car looks dated. I even declined to test drive. Ill look elsewhere
@adamesd3699
@adamesd3699 3 ай бұрын
I’ve owned, rented, or test-driven all of these, except the Outlander. I actually like the Forester. Yes, all these criticisms are valid. BUT at least it’s comfortable and functional. It won’t win any races or beauty contests, but it’s an easy car to live with (if they would just do something about that screen). A lot of people love the CX-5, and it is beautiful and handles well, but I’ve disliked it every time I drove one - Small and uncomfortable driver’s seat and hard to see out of. Plus the cargo space is a bit small. (Note: The Forester’s usable cargo space is bigger than its specs indicate). All the others also have issues. The only two I actually liked were the CRV and the VW Tiguan. But the 1.5L turbo in the CRV suffers from oil dilution in cold climates. And would I trust VW reliability long-term? (On the other hand, the two VWs I’ve owned were flawlessly reliable, so maybe I would trust VW). YMMV.
@MrMegatron85
@MrMegatron85 3 ай бұрын
Subaru, i will design your cars for half the salary of the last guy
@geyser3445
@geyser3445 3 ай бұрын
Seems like every new generation of Subarus gets uglier and uglier.
@whiteandnerdytuba
@whiteandnerdytuba 3 ай бұрын
My lady loves her forester and is a die hard Subaru fan but she said the center screen is a deal breaker. Which sucks cause it’s an otherwise probably great car, we don’t need to reinvent the wheel every couple years. Analog gauges, simple refinement to make a better product it's exactly what a Subaru buyer wants... Except for the terrible center screen.
@jongeephotography
@jongeephotography 3 ай бұрын
Should've brought Grandma along, she'd probably love it!
@glennkennedy441
@glennkennedy441 3 ай бұрын
That thing has gotten way to big !
@bradenmchenry995
@bradenmchenry995 3 ай бұрын
What exactly does Subaru do well? They have extremely poor reliability, low quality, bad tech, bad powertrains, overpriced… their only selling point is awd and that is severely limited due to the terrible cvt transmission they use
@jparker1823
@jparker1823 3 ай бұрын
Aren't the dampers SFRD since they are produced by Showa?
@frankdeboer1347
@frankdeboer1347 3 ай бұрын
Interior styling isn't bad.
@AUXITOLED
@AUXITOLED 3 ай бұрын
Hey,matt. Do you do product review? We'll release a portable car vacuum.And we'd like to invite you to test it out. We have emailed for an inquiry
@chxrlesson
@chxrlesson 3 ай бұрын
2025 Subaru Forester Premium or 2024 Ford Bronco Sport Big Bend?🤔
@Splendid_Lad
@Splendid_Lad 3 ай бұрын
Is it a Ford? Is it a Honda? It just looks so generic.
@gregdamitz9381
@gregdamitz9381 3 ай бұрын
They all do
@jeffs6090
@jeffs6090 3 ай бұрын
Of course it's underwhelming, it's a Subaru. There's never anything whelming about any of them.
@downshiftpedal
@downshiftpedal 3 ай бұрын
Terrible design
@nberkel
@nberkel 3 ай бұрын
Subaru continues to offer nothing that makes their vehicles stand out. No effort goes into any aspect. I just don't get how people still buy their cars...
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
They like having a quality all-wheel-drive system (not a FWD-based "on-demand system) and relatively high ground clearance at a usually affordable price. That's the Subaru value play. It's not terribly surprising. They print sales in snow and outdoor adventure states.
@nberkel
@nberkel 3 ай бұрын
Their "quality awd" system is open and non-adjustable. Vehicles not marketed as off-road are more capable...
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
@@nberkel obviously it's not a substitute for part-time 4WD with low range, but you can lock the center diff with "X-mode" at lower speeds, and under normal operation it drives all 4 wheels all the time, compared with most crossovers being FWD only until they detect slip. It's a good middle ground for a lot of people. My 4Runner has a much more capable transfer case / 4WD for offroad, but it also cost twice what a base Crosstrek does. Is there any affordable crossover on the market more capable than a Crosstrek/Forester/Outback Wilderness model? If so, do they cost more?
@nberkel
@nberkel 3 ай бұрын
Fair enough, I don't know the market like you do. Still doesn't answer the question on how Subaru can fall short in so many ways...
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
@@nberkel I'm unclear how you think they are falling short. Buyers like their image, the all-wheel-drive system, the ground clearance, the useful shape of their vehicles, the nice greenhouse you get with lots of glass, the price, and I'm sure plenty like the old school analog gauges among other things. To their buyers, those pros must overcome the cons.
@williamlong2682
@williamlong2682 3 ай бұрын
In agreement for the most part on your overall verdict, but at least it seems like most of the shortcomings and areas for improvement here are midcycle refreshable.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 3 ай бұрын
True, and I'm hoping the hybrid version makes this more compelling too, or at least brings it up to speed with the competitors that offer it.
@oliverroo59
@oliverroo59 3 ай бұрын
I normally accept Subarus as "functional" looking, but this one is just ugly
@sapientbudgie5652
@sapientbudgie5652 3 ай бұрын
🤮🤮🤮
@sarkisseywaz2127
@sarkisseywaz2127 3 ай бұрын
You are too picky. It’s the best selling car .Price wise too. Compared to other ski high priced vehicles in this group and don’t forget 4 wheel drive. Looks like you are one of those Subaru haters. What has happened to you. You used to praise wrx
@bryantcurtis7
@bryantcurtis7 3 ай бұрын
Huge difference between what Matt says vs the WRX and other Subaru products. He actually really likes the WrX and he even gave the Crosstrek a good review.
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 3 ай бұрын
If you watched the competitor comparison at the end you’d understand why this comes up short. And it’s by no means a best seller. It sells worse than the Crosstrek and Outback and is only a tiny fraction of the amount of sales that Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V and others sell. I don’t hate any brand, I just lay out the facts and call it how I see it.
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
@@MattMaranMotoring while it does sell less than the great-selling Crosstrek and Outback, and can't touch the gargantuan CRV/Rav4 NPC sales numbers, the Forester sold 150k units in the US last year, still very respectable. However, this redesign took away one of its biggest selling points--low MSRP--which might harm sales going forward. The CX-5 has become the only affordable high quality japanese SUV from a good brand (Nissan and Mitsu need not apply)
@gregdamitz9381
@gregdamitz9381 3 ай бұрын
​@MattMaranMotoring it sells better than them sometimes and worse others. Unfortunately the 2025s are not selling. I have only seen 2 on the road in my travels. Of course I don't see many new cars with paper plates as well.
@NoMarkUpGil
@NoMarkUpGil 3 ай бұрын
It's ugly 🗑
@frankdeboer1347
@frankdeboer1347 3 ай бұрын
This is even uglier than the car it replaces, and that's saying something. I don't get people who buy these.
@tomrakusan1179
@tomrakusan1179 3 ай бұрын
I don’t get people who criticize for the sake of criticizing. Mind your own business.
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 3 ай бұрын
They buy it for reasons that are not your subjective opinion of the styling. Like the fact it's the most affordable high-quality AWD system on the market, in vehicles that have relatively high ground clearance. You see these things at campgrounds, hiking trailheads, and ski resorts everywhere.
@sansin6250
@sansin6250 3 ай бұрын
A RAV4 and CR-V (non-hybrid) is no more exciting than the Forester. They all are boring, with boring interior and engine. But nobody buys them seeking excitement. They are supposed to be workhorses, and run for decades, with nothing more than routine maintenance.
@whitelotus1594
@whitelotus1594 3 ай бұрын
I prefer the 2023 Forester Premium
@AntLive29
@AntLive29 3 ай бұрын
every time i see this car it's being driven by a gray person
@TonyTenor3000
@TonyTenor3000 3 ай бұрын
I gotta say, the little horizontal screens in the Mazda, Honda and Toyota are absolute deal breakers for me, and I think the Subaru has a cushier ride than the other models. I find several year old Mazdas hardly feel “luxurious” inside, and the ride doesn’t get any better or less harsh. I’d rather deal with a slightly slower screen so I can have a large easy to access icons, maps and lists. When I open Apple Music, on my Outback playlists and other options fill the screen and are easy to use. Having to reach up and use a little screen with so little info to choose from is no good for me. I just find myself choosing the first music option I see on the screen and avoiding having to deal with it from there until I”m parked, so it being faster is kind of irrelevant, like resolution. Toyota’s current offerings are absolutely agonizing to use. I’d rather have an old AM radio with an 8-track. I also like the bronze. I think it would go great with blue or the earthier green color. Not sure if they’re doing a sort of brown colored Forester, but that could work, too.
@gregdamitz9381
@gregdamitz9381 3 ай бұрын
I didn't like the bronze at first but it is acceptable. Wish the sport still had black rims and orange highlights. I am going to add the sport grill after I get the one I have on order. Couldn't justify pating over $600 to Subaru when they are online for less than $500
@alexmassengale433
@alexmassengale433 3 ай бұрын
I think screens are overrated as a differentiator between cars. Ride, mileage, handling, acceleration, noise levels, reliability, cargo space, passenger space, seat comfort, etc all matter more than whether or not you have a 9 inch screen or a 12 inch screen or 50 inches of screen.
@gregdamitz9381
@gregdamitz9381 3 ай бұрын
I guess its personal opinion but I think the CX5 is ugly.
@GungHo1234
@GungHo1234 3 ай бұрын
“Soft. Comfortable. Unoffensive. Subaru.”
@sarkisseywaz2127
@sarkisseywaz2127 3 ай бұрын
Another Subaru hater reviewing this beautiful car. Speak for yourself. I don’t like this I don’t like that. ….
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@ACitizenOfOurWorld
@ACitizenOfOurWorld 3 ай бұрын
What is the point of a review if he's not supposed to point out what he doesn't like. Go watch a subaru advertisement video if you just want to feel good about your fanboism
@iforc
@iforc 3 ай бұрын
In all fairness, the critique sounds like you don’t know Subaru
@sethgunn8256
@sethgunn8256 3 ай бұрын
This comment is placed here because if you read this and consider buying a subaru for their reputation of reliability and safety, you are an ill-informed consumer and everybody knows who you vote for. No-need to coat the back of your horrible car with your other poor choices in life.
@CC_Marauder
@CC_Marauder 3 ай бұрын
It's in the name, SUB r u. Fail 👎🏼 Honda FTW
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