Review | Carlton v Western Bulldogs | AFL Round 18, 2024

Review of the round 18 clash between Carlton and the Western Bulldogs.
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[@azzajames7661]

I feel for Cripps😤 We couldn't even get up for him😒

[@lucasgroi3639]

Disappointing that no one stepped up when it mattered other than Cripps who has done so much for this team

[@BlueAbroad]

Very disappointing

[@adriansal3524]

I genuinely think that when we were 6 points clear on the ladder we mentally slowed down. We need to get used to being a winning team.

[@kathystefanidis2203]

Hi terry💙so appalled last nites game, more disappointing for crippa, u can’t win premierships playing garbage footy😡😡

[@Realtashman]

We were known in the 80’s and 90’s as winning these milestone games, by and large.

[@BlueAbroad]

The good old days

[@adamaboughattas9042]

Every bloody milestone we have for a player we lose it’s a disgrace

[@lt.bapsiiiii5484]

Zac Williams had his 150 and we won

[@adamaboughattas9042]

@@lt.bapsiiiii5484 fair enough, but the way to ratio more on the losing

[@brianambrosemcmahon8531]

We are lucky to have Cripps at our club on and off the field . He’s already a Carlton legend .

[@Equality-7-2521]

My heart goes out to Cripps, who deserves better. Real simple: Beveridge saw what worked with GWS and directed his own version of it. The problem was not two rucks. We got the ball but did SFA with it much of the time. Turnovers (including lots of uncharacteristic mistakes from Newman and sadly Walsh's mistakes are becoming more common), reverting to fetal position (blind bombs to a hopeless contest), a bizarre refusal to put more numbers around contests, and a mental collapse regarding body movement. Of course when the oppostion has numbers on the ball they're in a better position to run with it and we have no shape to do much about it. Then we're chasing and "we look slow". It's not rocket science. You could see it happening over and over. My two biggest pet peeves on putrid display as well: supremely wasteful kickouts and sloppy approach to the center bounce and other stoppages. Made it easy at times for Bontompelli or another opponent to slot right in to steal the ball. And where was the extra set of hands from either halfback to play free safety or a wing or forward sneaking in to receive? Cripps needs to hold an intervention like has in the past and fix the set up and approach. And did I mention turnovers and mistakes? Every kickout after a behind except maybe one (not counting initial laterals from Weitering to a teammate) was the usual bomb to a contest on the wing, on a highway to nowhere. Only once that I can recall did guys move to present targets across the middle and we marched it right up the corridor for a goal. Gave them too many goals @#$%ing about. Harry was in 10/10 form, klling it in the first half, then Lobb went on him and our ball movement was so pathetic he never saw it again. Oh, wait, what am I talking about? Harry didn't have any joy in the second half because we traded him during the offseason. Someone else was kicking three goals and making major contributions around the ground until the defense switched and our game moved away from him (Sorry, not ready to let it go, nowhere near it). No Hewett and Kennedy as sub? Against this midfield? Talk about losing the game at selection. If the coaching staff is listening to the moaners and thinking we're too slow like that to win, they need to spend a couple weeks in the 2s. Without the ball you can have 18 Usain Bolts and it won't make a difference. Even in top form Cerra and Walsh are not the right guys to throw their bodies on the line and let Cripps dance. Stupid, stubborn, refusing to see what's unfolding game after game. Don't listen to any of the mewling about arrogance. More like dumb lack of confidence from the selection geniuses and strategy instruction. Also, is Walsh hurt, carrying something? His first two games back were magical, but it's been a steady decline in quality ever since. Ignore the numbers and amount of gut running. Don't care what the Pommygram Algorithm says. He is nothing like the catalyst he needs to be. Someone has to start the conversation now: Trade Charlie! His job is to kick goals. If he can't do it and is mentally compromised, he's not helping the team. Doesn't tackle, doesn't help, wrestles instead of running his opponent around, showboating, and he's limiting Harry by being a ball hog. Get someone else in there to compliment our forward setup. Somewhere in Melbourne right now, Marchbank's on the ground again.

[@BlueAbroad]

That was a cathartic read. Thank you.

[@rhondashearer2174]

Surely you cannot be serious about trading Charlie. Pretty sure he didn't miss those goals on purpose. You must live a perfect life.

[@BlueAbroad]

@@rhondashearer2174 it's a joke.

[@Equality-7-2521]

@@rhondashearer2174 I'm parodying all the moronic calls last year to trade Harry.

[@scentsandstylebyjase]

Results went our way this week. Still 2nd after 2 straight losses. Looked slow at stoppage. Dogs had way more ball. Charlie could have had a huge bag. Need a quick reset and make a huge push to keep the.flag hopes alive.

[@BlueAbroad]

Flirting with danger but also benefiting from the work we’ve done this season so far. Hope they can turn it around from here!

[@IreneConnor-tk5yv]

I knew in 1st qtr. 7 points told me they were down their end a lot. Honestly felt it then.

[@gezimnexhipi4905]

I've moved on. onto next week

[@BlueAbroad]

Amen

[@BluebaggersEdge]

Was more disappointing than the loss to the Giants this one, I reckon. Against another side, with their backs against the wall and we had no hunger. The lack of two way running and defensive efforts in the middle, where they waltzed out of a stoppage unopposed to kick a goal or hit up JUH etc. was super frustrating. Good time to face a softer matchup (but can't underestimate) to work on these deficiencies. We go again! 💪🏻

[@andrewsimons1765]

Hey Tez, agree about Saad. He plays with and can be rushed into making silly mistakes but, last nights game was one of his best. He's a solid inclusion to our side. I felt for Cripps. It at times appeared that he himself was gunning for the win just so he could enjoy his milestone moment. Disappointed for him that the rest of the group was off. I loved Weitering's game though and it sucked that he got injured. I also liked Owies' game. It just felt like we were out coached in the end. Anyway we need to move on to make sure we don't butcher our game again the Roo's. I'm confident that we will win. Go Blues.

[@de-bkk4447]

Even Vossy said he felt we were never in it

[@olivee0899]

Hey tez I think this is our 2 week form slump sort of like Sydney and Sydney played north after their two loses and won so hopefully now we can respond next week against north like they did and get our mojo back

[@4whomittolz846]

it's so much more agonizing because we've already seen the championship team this year against geelong and the bombers, but we're still just waiting for shit to get better.

[@Upthegutz]

Apart from a few last night, the majority of the playing group can learn a lot from you Tez. You always turn up 😊. We have now lost the ability to manage the team in the lead up to finals. It’s now a manic race. Maybe that’s what our group thrives on. But history shows that the most rested and healthy team usually wins the GF

[@sami6393]

The reason in my opinion is we still don't have a proper game plan or we're no executing it properly. Too many close games were we dominate early but just don't go through with it and let the opposition back in.

[@maximusmazzeo9547]

I feel like we needed these 2 losses as we can't hold the form we had for the rest of the season, we have an easier run home than other teams so we can build momentum from there. Go the baggers 💙

[@de-bkk4447]

We have time to fix it. Hewett must come back in. Interesting in a few weeks Pendlebury plays his 400th game……against us!

[@daniello9155]

Watching the game on Kayo, Cripps and the bub were just about to go through the banner and they cut in with adds, WTF? Kayo cancelled.

[@BlueAbroad]

Oh wow - that is a shocker

[@Aiden.i]

our pressure rating was 160 for the fourth when the game was on the line they dished that up that’s nowhere GOOD ENOUGH.

[@BlueAbroad]

Story of the game is definitely the team defence.

[@Aiden.i]

@@BlueAbroad it’s been disgraceful for two weeks need to fix it badly

[@ChristianSorace458]

Would love to work out what motivates these boys. When they’re motivated they are unstoppable, the moment they lose that motivation the wheels just fall off. I hope they can find that motivation over the next few weeks 🤞🏻

[@BlueAbroad]

Goes to show how important the mental side of the game is hey.

[@IAmTheBlueOctopus]

Love Cripps so much, but I'm not so sure milestone games matter that much. At the end of the day, it's just a number - the real number that mattered was the 4 points we missed out on, which we should have banked. Bulldogs just stifled us and outplayed us in exactly the same way GWS did. The blueprint to beat us is there for the competition to see, so we're going to have to adapt in time for September.

[@BlueAbroad]

@@IAmTheBlueOctopus thoroughly enjoy seeing this sentiment. Bang on.

[@roccomoro8337]

So disappointed at the result,simply need to nail it at the selection table,Crippa deserves much more than this,we couldn’t even enjoy the moment of him being chaired off the ground,they need to turn it around immediately because we’re now nearing the pointy end of the season,cheers for the content Terry keep up the great work,go blues

[@michaelc152]

A well known commentator offered an insight that I’m sure Carlton’s brains trust would be aware of and needs to be addressed asap. In the last two losses the team has conceded 100 points against. Not good but there are enough games left to fix that and a few other key issues. I feel for Cripps. No captain could have done more to get his team over the line.

[@antoninaduncan8959]

Gosh that annoyed me. Disappointed we couldn’t win for Crippa and not happy with the way we played. It just felt off all game. I didn’t think it would be easy and knew the Dogs would fire up but it’s disappointing. For the second half I sat with Doggie supporter friends in their supporter area and that was an experience. Very interesting to hear opposing supporters ‘thoughts’ about our team and players when you’re a minority supporter and on the losing side - Cripps apparently is overrated 🤦‍♀️ Anyway….. am hoping this is a blip, we reset, and work on cementing our spot in the Top 4. It’s in our own hands. In the words of our fearless leader, LFG. GBs

[@sbd9907]

I recall you mentioning a few weeks ago that we should be embracing this period as the official turning point etc. I was envious of your confidence as I’m am generally an anxious and glass half empty person. We’re definitely much better but I do still see the same mistakes creep in occasionally of yesteryear and I still can’t fully trust this group. Let’s just take week by week and assess on that basis. I’d love to be able to enjoy every win knowing we’re gonna win the flag, but that’s just not the reality.

[@BlueAbroad]

I hope you didn’t take those comments as some sort of a guarantee that we’ll win the flag!? Quite simply, this club is no longer the basket case it used to be. Going to games to lash out at individual players instead of the opposition players was and will continue to be my key point. We may very well not win the flag this year but the message remains the same - we are moving towards it rather than away from it.

[@Tatumstantrum]

One positive to take from the game is that even playing as bad as that we only lost by 14pts. Charlie kicks a bit better and who knows I just want to see our defence improve Stop conceding such big scores or we're no threat at the pointy end

[@BlueAbroad]

Losses these days come with 25+ scoring shots. It’s weird but they definitely aren’t as bad as they used to be. Still, we want wins but the perspective is definitely not lost on me.

[@azzaprime7257]

Its not that bad. Curnow rarely has off nights like that. He kicks straight, Blues win easy. It happens to everyone.

[@kingragga7]

Definitely showed we are mentally weak side at times, I watched that last quarter in utter frustration, crippa was the only one that wanted it, most went missing and it reminded me of 2019, when it was just him trying to do it all. Made it all the more disappointing in his milestone game. After all he’s given to the club, his teammates and the coaches let him down. The two rucks did not work, pitto had 16 hit outs to advantage to English’s 2 but you wouldn’t have known, the dogs scored from their clearances and we didn’t, having the extra tall made us too slow and seemed like a strange game to play the two anyway given TDK matches up well on English and the dogs were down key talls. Even though we were below standard for most of the game, if we kick straight we win, the old adage ‘bad kicking is bad football’ couldn’t be more accurate here and the dogs could’ve punished us early but didn’t and then we could’ve punished them late and didn’t, on the weight of numbers they won as they were able to generate more effective entries. The dual Coleman medallist has to be better, you can’t accept 3.7 based on the calibre of player, especially given most of his looks were actually quite easy. Charlie wasn’t the only disappointment, unfortunately we had too many passengers for most of the game for a second straight week, we couldn’t transition the ball from the backline pretty much all game and the dogs played us well however given their depleted lineup we should’ve been able to find a way. A reset is definitely needed, get hewett in, it’s a joke he’s playing vfl, Motlop deserves a chance now as well! We should not be relying on other sides for favourable ladder positions because if they play like that in September they won’t be holding a bloody cup that’s for sure! Still time to turn it around but it starts next week, 6 rounds left now, put these two crap weeks behind us and launch into what could be one of the most important periods in the last 30 years. Go Blues!

[@BlueAbroad]

Interesting read, thanks for sharing. Regarding the hitouts to advantage, is that a ruck issue or is that our midfield issue? I think they let us down more so than the two rucks personally.

[@kingragga7]

@@BlueAbroad probably more of a midfield issue tbh, cerra for example gave up the ball a few times after having first possession which he needs to clean up, that’s not on pitto, however in open play he can’t provide that additional midfielder capability like de koning has been able to, with tdk playing 85-90% ruck we’re effectively able to outnumber at the core contest and make that first possession effective when winning it as we’ve essentially got 4 midfielders. I’ve been hearing that the two rucks isn’t a bad idea but the sample says we’re 3-4 in those games and 8-2 with one ruck, coincidence or is the data telling us something, I do think having both of them play could be beneficial in a matchup type scenario, eg against the dockers where we go toe to toe against Darcy and Jackson, but the doggies had a smaller side in on the weekend and English isn’t a big dominant ruck who could monster tdk like Briggs did so that’s why I thought it was a strange game to play both. What seemed evident to the eye was that we lacked a run at times so even though Tom still played 85% game time and pitto only 65%, it just felt we were too slow and would’ve benefitted from having a smaller player who could help us transition the ball as that seemed to be our big problem on the weekend (after the scores from clearance). He is a fantastic back up to have and we will probably need him again this season but Tom cannot flourish playing only 30-40% of time in the ruck. I’ll be interested to see what they do this week coming up against xerri. keen to hear your thoughts Terry on the conundrum! Go blues!

[@Tatumstantrum]

Our defence has dropped off again and our ability to be clean and use the ball well consistently. I think we will bounce back against Roos. Have a feeling that the group is getting ahead of itself at times.... Must get Hewett and Kennedy in the side and play Motlop We were just slow and scrappy, review the game and get better Go Blues

[@petertrezise4545]

Carlton had almost the same stats as Footscray. But everything, for Carlton, just seemed off. Kicks falling short, handballs just missing their mark just missing tackles. It was a disappointing game but the reality is they weren’t that far off. I’ve seen worse performances in premiership years.

[@salex_sammie]

I'm really disappointed for Crippa Tez. He deserved every bit of build up that the club and fans gave him. Crippa is our king and for the boys to not get the win for him really upsets me. The footty gods have given us one more chance to get it together. We are still 2nd and we can't afford to drop a game from here on in. C'mon baggers we can do this boys 💙

[@BlueAbroad]

Was disappointing but more importantly the 4 points were lost. Gotta bounce back and get going in the final stretch now

[@dancowza6092]

I think maybe Vossy should stop talking about “the back end of the season” after every press. We’re a side that has been told forever that playing finals is the holy grail. You why no one knows who one the 2nd semi final in the 2019 finals series? because no one cares. Anyone will tell you Richmond won the flag though. Our goal is not to play finals and talking about September all the time is allowing the boys minds to wander and go off task!! You’re these lads leader Vossy. Lead their minds as well as their bodies!!

[@alexanderm__07]

This one really stings, for Cripps 200th and for the context of the season, its really time to hit our straps and get this team right.

[@BlueAbroad]

Hopefully!

[@lawriemcdonald4554]

This points against stat is troubling

[@BlueAbroad]

@@lawriemcdonald4554 team defence struggling. Gotta nail it otherwise we’ll be talking about a significant missed opportunity. I’ve got faith it can and will be rectified. Do you?

[@benjamindesantis723]

what happened to fan cams this week just asking

[@BlueAbroad]

Had to trim out the press conference. They are back on the channel now.

[@benjamindesantis723]

@@BlueAbroad okay all good man 👍

[@adamaboughattas9042]

To be honest, I saw it all over Vossy’s face before the bounce.

[@BlueAbroad]

What did you see?

[@rhondashearer2174]

I call BS

[@jackmag4056]

I know this is going to come across as a wild statement , but I truly believe we are going to struggle making finals ,

[@BlueAbroad]

Why?

[@PaulVassos]

I just looked at the ladder after reading your comment, scary thing is, we’re 2nd, Pies r 12th and we’ve only 2 games clear of them, we can fall down the ladder as easily as they have, Blues need to be careful

[@iboibo3908]

I wouldn’t blame Cripps if he wanted to leave Carlton. Appalling on their behalf to play like that for a champion of this club

[@BlueAbroad]

He's stuck with us now!

[@iboibo3908]

Well I hope they make it up by winning him a premiership. There not easy to get.

[@iboibo3908]

@@BlueAbroadnot really Terry his 29 and if things don’t improve and they don’t respond to what he told the players after the game, then it would be in his mind.

[@BlueAbroad]

@@iboibo3908 he’s not going anywhere mate. Come on.

[@iboibo3908]

@@BlueAbroadi don’t want him to go anywhere Terry as well but I’m just saying. I’m entitled to my opinion like you. Hopefully they turn it around starting from Sunday because I want them to be successful as they deserve it. Cheers

[@rogerphillipo1583]

Blues & Bombers will tumble out of the top 8.

[@adamaboughattas9042]

But let’s forget about it move on concentrate on the next game go blues

[@daniello9155]

We cant keep saying that, at some point the team has to be held to account.

[@Seagulligus]

We are one game out of the 8. Thats the reality. All this flag talk is premature. Rein it in. 1 week at a time.