Review: J.Herbin Emerald of Chivor: Shimmering Ink Fountain Pen

[@CalligraphyMasters]

*Is this the most unique ink for writing Calligraphy?? Or you have other suggestion for ink that can have this title?*

[@annagrammenou9136]

I really can't wait to see it!!! Im really new to calligraphy and you guys are the best inspiration ever! Thank you! 😄🤗

[@CalligraphyMasters]

@@annagrammenou9136 I think you will love it! It's an amazing ink and great review!! Thank you for the support & #KeepWriting 😍❤👊

[@CalligraphyMasters]

@Juan Oohh come on, is this a real answer? You never tried ink that was much better than all others and that you were in love with ?

[@CalligraphyMasters]

@Juan I see, thanks for the feedback and hopefully you enjoy the review!

[@mocknugget]

pilot iroshizuku

[@mathijsfockedey9175]

I feel like you could find this dude in the library and in the hood at the same time. Nice review!

[@MadebyEdgar]

Lmao!

[@anthonynunyabizness9989]

I thought the exact same thing. This guy is one classy G.

[@jemellia_]

What.

[@dr.mindbender6038]

Hahaha

[@davidstollings9600]

That's what I was thinking. Yet another example of how people contain multitudes. Alway approach people with an open mind and you will be (mostly) rewarded.

[@Detman101]

Goodness...This guy could teach me anything!! Clear...concise...smooth voice...easy to understand...just perfect.

[@karlajenickova]

Ink looks great, but I am more impressed by the review. Not too long, yet informative. Everything I needed to know, simple. Pleasure to watch. Looking forward to see your next video.

[@MadebyEdgar]

Karla Jeníčková You actually summed up how I wanted to present this review. I purposely cut out anything that wasn’t needed. This helped me make a short video that still has a lot of important info. Thank you for watching 😇

[@pinkpinsofpain]

Wow! That ink is gorgeous. Loved Edgar's presentation! Really like that he shared his equipment and paper choices.

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you enjoy it!! Thanks for watching & #KeepWriting

[@roseroman8308]

Your voice is so soothing and I could watch you write in calligraphy all day! You’re awesome !

[@leahgroess5361]

I came here from Instagram. I'm not an artist or calligrapher, but I adore shiny, multicolored things and find art channels soothing, so Edgar's post about this ink came up in my suggestions. It really is a great video, having enough information to be useful and interesting and plenty of eye candy for those of us that aren't even relevant but love pretty things!

[@Detman101]

Very professional review of this ink...one of the best I've seen. This could almost be called an instructional...very VERY awesome. If you ever do a "Ted Talk" I'm gonna be there.

[@CuriousCabinet]

This was the perfect review. Every single detail you needed, beautiful shots, concise. You, sir, have major talent not just in calligraphy.

[@msshaffer5]

This is my absolute favorite fountain pen ink and also my favorite color in my collection. I just ordered a bottle of the ocean blue from this collection and can’t wait to try it. That and a platinum 3776 with an UEF nib are my birthday presents from myself 😜. Loved the short, sweet, and informative review, keep up the great work, and gorgeous calligraphy ❤️

[@TheRealMythril]

What a beautiful demonstration with a truly unusual ink. Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to more videos from Edgar, he has Skills!

[@CalligraphyMasters]

EDGAR is amazing!! Proud to have him in the team, glad you enjoy his work! Thank you for watching & #KeepWriting

[@MadebyEdgar]

The Real Mythril Thank you so much my friend 😁😁

[@RyanZNO]

I need your handwriting, I have the ink already 😭

[@jayatkinson1152]

Fabulous review. I wish I could do what you do... it's amazing! I adore writing xxx

[@canadaverydry]

This is NOT writting! This is ART !!

[@humanfirst11]

Ok

[@micheinnz]

Both. Both is good.

[@Shaiy007]

Of course it's in my collection. It's one of the first inks that I bought when I first got into fountain pens, and it's still one of my favorite! 🖋😎👍

[@julianahinojosa6166]

Emerald of Chivor

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Thank you for the info

[@MadebyEdgar]

Juliana Hinojosa Yes, it really does 😁👍🏼

[@shawnbrama1589]

I just ordered this ink! I’m so excited to use it. Thankyou for your suggestions and review!

[@BaritoneMike]

Phenomenal ink! Thanks for the awesome vid :)

[@pammcardle40]

Your Calligraphy is beautiful! Thank you for this wonderful and comprehensive video! That is a gorgeous ink and now I am sure I need to have it. Thank you!

[@paigeherrmann6332]

This is a great review. Really informative, relaxing to watch, and very well paced. Love it.

[@samantha4130]

Fab video Edgar. Informative and to the point. Plus you have beautiful penmanship 🤩

[@morgenmachen2400]

I have this and another JH 1670 in my collection - rouge hematite, which is a warm red ink sheening ink with gold, also beautiful. I got excited when I saw Edgar using the blue pumpkin, which isn't one I typically reach for, and thought to try it immediately on the Rhodia, HP 32, and canson cold press watercolor. I still found a lot of feathering with the blue pumpkin so prepped the next sheet with hairspray. Still, I couldn't quite get the variations that are typical with this ink.. Brings me to my question- would it be a good idea to add Arabic gum to thicken up the ink and make it better suited for pointed pen ? Thanks for your time and effort in filming this review.

[@maddiemoskala7254]

I have all the colors and now I started the 1798 collection, they are thicker and work better with flex dip pen bibs. I love them. They redesigned the bottles and they are better to dip in now.

[@stephaniesingleton8644]

Can you say GORGEOUS!! WOW!!! I am ordering right away, thank you!!

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Awesome!! Feel free to drop another comment once you receive and try it out! :)

[@MadebyEdgar]

Stephanie Singleton Hope you enjoy the ink 😁

[@AJ-iu6nw]

jesus christ that is beautiful handwriting

[@lemon-nu7xp]

DAMNNNN I’ve seen Edgar’s vids on reddit and I expected him to be some old man scholar lookin type,,,he looks rlly nice and approachable omg!

[@anthonynunyabizness9989]

First video of yours I've seen and I truly think it's a perfect video. If this is the style of all your vids I'm subscribing you better believe that. What I like the most is that every sentence of this video is useful. You dont repeat trivial information and have solid speech skills.

[@Stitchxavi]

This work is beautiful. Absolutely exquisite.

[@leucocephala]

This ink was my gateway drug into writing with fountain pens. Thanks for the video!

[@leahf145]

Brilliant Edgar! Way to represent 👍

[@makeyour77]

Oh man so nice colors and awesome skill and penmanship

[@marscalligraphy]

Beautiful review. Thank you for posting! If I can share with you guys some tips for ink flow issue you can either add a bit of Ox Gall into your mixture or just dip your nib every now and then into water when you feel that the flow gets harder. Most of the time it does the trick.

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you like it and thanks for the suggestion on the flow issues!! #keepwriting ;)

[@MadebyEdgar]

Mars Calligraphy Thank you for providing helpful information 😇

[@servicepap]

Wow, thank you! What a great tip!

[@jamisonw.327]

I bought this ink with a set of 2 others (Rouge Hematite & Stormy Grey). Emerald of Chivor is by far my favorite ink, followed by Stormy grey in not so close second. It's so unique, but unfortunately the paper is a huge factor. Every paper used in this video was pretty good quality, even the printer paper. As he said, this isn't the normal with printer paper. You'll want laser jet paper for the ink resistance if you're going to go cheap, but Tomoe River is really where it's at. I tried Rhodia and didn't even really achieve as much as this video shows. That being said, the red is all you'll miss out on if you go with cheaper papers. There's a shading effect (light blue to dark green), a sheen effect (red), and a shimmer effect (gold specks), depending on your pen and technique you'll see all except the sheen on any paper, but wow does it pop on tomoe river, all 4 effects at once make this look almost prismatic. This whole anniversary lineup is a great match for any generously flowing pen, as you can drag out the pools with the reverse side and achieve any desired shading. Stormy gray is just as cool on cheap paper, its shimmer makes a signature look like it's worth more than it is. I'd say it's more professional looking if that's what you're going for. I love the Diamine line of shimmering inks (like Enchanted Ocean), but the J. Herbin ones definitely flow better, so if you're going to go with anything smaller than medium you won't want to risk the starting and stopping that will happen after only an hour or so of settling (at least with a Japanese extra fine).

[@DandelionCottageDesign]

TU, nice work! Watercolor paper is sized to hold watercolors differently by manufacturers. It allows for a longer drying time to manipulate the colors longer.

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Interesting, thank you for the info & for watching :)

[@Max-ul5rq]

Brah.. your reviews are epic. Good work

[@lauraandrews8072]

you talked about how to load the nib so you don't get a heavy bleed. Which I find is happening after I load and touch the paper for the first stroke....every single time. Please post a video on loading dip pens, with various nib. thanks.

[@CalligraphyMasters]

There already is!! Posted 2 parts video last week! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ67pImio7iJn7M & kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWi3lXl3iNqAndk

[@azharzaidi3264]

Hi Edgar, I loved this video. I call this a perfect one. You talked most wonderfully, ... No drag or waste of words and time. Do you teach?

[@tamantha]

Your handwriting is amazing!

[@jeanfoutre3620]

Sir, you've just earned yourself a new subscription!

[@TheHardcoreDilettante]

When I use fountain pen ink for calligraphy, I put a little bit of the ink in a separate inkwell like a dinky dip type container and add a little gum arabic to thicken it.

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Good idea, thanks for the advice! And thank you for watching :)

[@TheHardcoreDilettante]

@@CalligraphyMasters I love your channel. So much inspiration!

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you do buddy!! Thank you for the support & #KeepWriting 😉👊

[@KubanaNCSGO]

just got the ink, looks greenish, with mixing just more glitter, is it the paper that makes the ink look reddish in places?

[@poponachtschnecke]

Nice info. I really appreciate your in depth descriptions.

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you like it!! Thank you for watching & #KeepWriting

[@MadebyEdgar]

poponachtschnecke I appreciate you taking the time to watch 😁

[@thomasf.5768]

💚💚💚 Outstanding skill !!! Impressive

[@sporti7867]

Thanks for this great video!!! Can you also use this ink with the Pilot Parallel Pen?

[@chronophagocytosis]

About that ink flow. When used in a fountain pen, the gold flakes do tend to clog up your pen. I filled up a TWSBI 580AL with a well shaken ink, and naturally ran into some issues. If you allow the pen to sit for a day, you'll be greeted with an extremely dry nib next time you write. If you keep on scribbling with that for a while, the solid particles that clogged up the nib will begin to find their way on the paper. After the clear up scribbles it writes like a normal fountain pen ink, but I don't think I'll ever put this ink into a pen with an already dry nib. My pen has a wet medium nib, so it's able to deal with this ink. I had a few hard starts because of this ink, but after about a week of using it, most of the trouble making particles are gone, and now the ink is giving me no trouble at all. Perhaps next time I'll fill up the pen without first shaking the bottle.

[@briang530]

Never had an ink flow problem with this ink with the medium nib Momt Blanc or Broad Nib Pelikan, but have had issues with the fine nib waterman. Paper wise I have had bleed issues with staples printer paper and it's not particularly great on Moleskine notebooks. It's really good on Rhodia and Midori's notebook paper as well as the thin paper on my Traveler's Company notebook inserts (possibly also Midori paper?)

[@kevinrayd1]

Love this ink! The more I use it the more I discover about it.

[@MarielHn]

I love this video, such beauty is so satisfying!

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you do!! Thank you for watching :)

[@magnifikris]

Great review, beautiful writing. Excellent skill.

[@CatSeta]

Watercolor paper is designed for paints to dry longer to give you time to be able to manipulate the paints on the paper when you’re painting, while tomoe river is designed for fast drying so you don’t smudge your work when you accidentally touch your work with your hand

[@davidmolloy126]

Thanks very much for a great video, really informative. Take care, David

[@BobHutchins]

Great video! I like the ink, I have a couple of samples of it. I'm looking forward to getting a while bottle.

[@Kayla.V]

I've heard of this ink from the goulet pens KZbin channel . I hope one day to purchase it. But I would like to get another fountian pen to use for just shimmer inks .

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Well as shown in the video, you don't need a fountain pen in order to use it ;)

[@Kayla.V]

@@CalligraphyMasters I know buuuut I kinda want to keep one portable so I can use it every where and then I can use my dip nibs at home :)

[@mebpratt859]

Try a Noodler’s Ahab, Konrad, Nib Creeper all two tine flex nib fountain pens. Or Noodler’s Triple Tail or Neponset three tine fountain pens. They tend to be wetter than most, but the real plus is you can fiddle with the nibs to make them wetter or drier and are very easy to take apart and clean. You can also swap out the nibs for Goulet Pens’ #6 nibs if you want a different writing experience. Goulet Pens, as well as, other popular on-line pen stores carry them. They are reasonably priced and have pretty large ink capacity.

[@sebastianate04]

hi, this inks works on simple Lamy M or S size? i want one!

[@servicepap]

Very interesting effects, Edgar! Have you tried it yet mixed with Gum Arabic? I wondered if that would keep the ink from bleeding through on the Tomoe River paper. If you have tried mixing with Gum Arabic, did you find it changed the flow of the gold in the ink?

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Didn't but someone already suggested it in the comments above and yes it will change the flow for sure

[@katie4623]

Wow this ink is out of this world.

[@whitehouse9999]

Amazing skills brother!

[@jessicacollins8049]

I have a huge fountain be pen ink collection and do use fountain pens. Ive seen people use fountain pen ink the way you are using it. Mine attempts come out watery. Btw theres a nickname for this ink-Emerald of Chicken because auto correct kept changing the name of Chivor. Tomoe River is known to be very fountain pen friendly. Its Japanese paper. Its super absorbent.i love Tomoe River paper and have a good supply of it.

[@pranitsingh8369]

A beautiful ink for fountain pens as well! 😍 Been wanting to get this for my pens since a long time, but I've heard that this ink is notorious for clogging the feed in fountain pens and give a hard time flushing them...

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Well if you listened to what he was talking you would not it's a fountain pen ink. And clogging is probably coming from the gold in it. Thank you for watching & #KeepWriting

[@TheHardcoreDilettante]

@@CalligraphyMasters It IS a fountain pen ink. It's sold as a fountain pen ink, and it works as such. It's not nearly as viscous as ink intended for dip pens, and it's entirely water soluble.

[@TheHardcoreDilettante]

It's not that bad. It IS made for fountain pens. I wouldn't use it in any pens that are hard to flush thoroughly. So no vintage pens with sacs, not because this ink will damage them, but because it's a PITA to clean out of them and will take forever, not just because of the shimmer particles but because it's heavily saturated. And no pens that have a drier flow because the particles can interfere with flow in that case. But if the pen is constructed so that it's easy to flush, and the feed gives you a nice, wet flow, it's fine to use this ink. I put it in my TWSBI with no problems. I use it in any modern cartridge/converter fountain pen with decently wet flow without fear. I just don't let it dry out in the pen and make sure to use the pen regularly or clean it out if I don't plan to use the pen at least a little bit daily. Once again, not because the ink will damage the pen if it dries out, but because it's so saturated that cleaning it completely is a huge pain if it gets dried out.

[@MadebyEdgar]

The Hardcore Dilettante You are 100% correct. I couldn’t have put it any better. It does become a bit difficult with a fountain pen but I heard dipping it in water every know than should work. But I never used it with a fountain so I don’t really have a good answer. Thank you for your insight.

[@tanmazsn8299]

Love the ink but the colour really depends on the paper i use ...its little bit tricky

[@marybeth808]

Hell yeah, glad this came up in my recommended!

[@davideguerrieri9017]

Could you tell me your top 3 ink for dip pens? I bought Pelikan 4001 but I think it's for funtain pen...Thank you!

[@margaretf667]

Watercolour paper is sized (usually with gelatine) to make it absorb liquid slower to allow the watercolour artist time to paint and create their desired affects. That's why your ink dried slower on it.

[@awatercolourist]

Also, if the watercolour paper is made of cotton it will hold water for a longer time. Retaining water is a prerequisite for many watercolouring techniques and is the reason why most watercolourists use it.

[@ChristianLeon81]

Your video was insanely thorough. Thank you.

[@Merlin012001]

I don't do calligraphy, but this was my third bottle of ink when I got back into fountain pens. I have dedicated a TWSBI Eco to it

[@nancylemieux8058]

What size nib do you use with the Twsbi Eco and Emerald Chivor?

[@archie9505]

Would the Brause have crisper lines against the Mitchell Round?

[@JOKERSLADY713]

I would have liked to see how this beautiful ink comes out on black paper 😌

[@majorneryz]

Great video! Does this ink clogg fountain pens? Thank you so much!

[@micaashmore9348]

Late to comment on this post, but really great review and insightful. Thanks much!

[@AntW11]

Your writing is exquisite!

[@jacknemo8021]

I find J. Herbin inks to be criminally under saturated. Diamine seems like the best bang for the buck in saturation, variety of colors, and volume per euro. (with the sole exception of turquoise blue, Kon-Peki is unbeatable in that area).

[@jacknemo8021]

although Pelikan's Edelstein special editions like smoky quartz and Olvine are truly unique too.

[@maddiemoskala7254]

I never tried diamine ink. My favorite ink of all time is Francesco Rubinato ink. I can’t find it anywhere though.

[@ciannacoleman5125]

Watercolor paper is designed with sizing which is to help the water and pigment “float” with the goal of not immediately drying. Normal paper doesn’t have that and soaks up liquid better

[@gauravkhedekar6681]

Hey when r u going to launch ur merch

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Are you asking about EDGAR's merch or Calligraphy Masters merch?

[@gauravkhedekar6681]

@@CalligraphyMasters obviously ur's merch CM😉

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Most probably, beginning of 2019, working on few things! Thank you for asking :) #KeepWriting

[@marialiyubman]

It makes me wonder… Had I tried to use a quill and cook inks in my notebooks in high-school, would it have made school less of a hell for me…? Probably not, and someone would have probably spilled it on me “by mistake”, but anything that makes me wonder if that experience could have been a little less tortuous helps…

[@alextaplin7354]

"I will be using everything besides a fountain pen" You didn't try it in a ballpoint!

[@sporti7867]

Thanks for the great video! Can I use the ink with the Pilot Parallel Pen?

[@desleykakoulidisgallaway3382]

beautiful work!!

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you like it!! :)

[@volcanowb]

Had to turn 4k res on to appreciate the true colors and true shimmer.

[@PalinuroRex]

Awesome! Do you have any tips about using a glass pen?

[@CalligraphyMasters]

watch here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaW2faytpbSEjpI

[@anthonyl2823]

You have talent, great vid.

[@servicepap]

Edgar, one more quick question! You mentioned that you like Strathmore 300 gym watercolor paper. I’ve never tried it, as I always use Arches 140 lb Hot Press. Are you using the Strathmore HOT PRESS paper? (I’m assuming you are, but wanted to be sure) Really enjoy your Engrosser’s/Copperplate hand. It’s has beautiful bones!

[@MadebyEdgar]

Debi I tried to find info on wether the paper is hot or cold press but I didn’t find any info. I mainly use these heavy rough papers because I love the textures even though at times it’s very hard to write on. Thank you so much for watching and also for such kind words ❤️

[@servicepap]

Edgar, thank you so much for taking the time to respond. Wow, I’m remembering using Fabriano Roma, which has tons of tooth, and how much it tired out my hand. I commend you on using rough and cold press papers - I know it’s not as easy as using smooth, hot press papers. I sure can’t argue with your results, but it made my jaw drop just the same. I love the LOOK of rough papers, though, even if I find them too challenging to work on. I can imagine that your Blue Pumpkin works a lot better than a Leonardt Principal or a wee #EF 66 Arrow on those rough papers. I applaud you, Edgar! Much respect. The younger generation is teaching me a great deal about scribing outside of the box, and I find it thrilling to learn. Truly, much respect!

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Thank you for the recommendation and for taking the time to write such comments!! 😍😉👊 #KeepWriting

[@Ryan_H22]

Maybe I'm missing it on the website but it looks like Strathmore only has one hot press paper in the 500 series. All the 300 series watercolors are all cold press?

[@adjromulos]

Beautiful script dude!

[@GermaineShino]

Hi Mr Edgar, first of all, thank you very much for the comprehensive review of the ink. You have inspired me to purchase the ink last week. However, I have encountered a problem here. Using a Pilot Parallel 6mm nib, I tried writing on the Rhodia Dotpad 80g/m and also the Tomoe River 68g/m - The green ink and gold shimmer are outstanding, but the red sheen has never appeared at all no matter how much I dip or flood the nib. Is there anything that I am doing wrongly? Or is there other alternative paper you will recommend? Looking forward to hear from the masters! Thanks in advance!

[@gertahnstrom784]

My guess is that the red parts appear where there is a very thin layer of ink applied, so that it dries faster. The Pilot Parallel gives a consistent wet line, so the gold and teal would be spread out quite evenly. Try experimenting with light pressure and faster strokes and see what happens.

[@KiraAkaike]

Every demonstration video I see of this ink is so beautiful. Pity I'm not a calligrapher T.T

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Are you an artist at least? I'm just curious why you would watch those videos :D

[@Kayla.V]

Rheo Milvus it just takes practice. You can get cheap starter kits at hobby lobby with a coupon. I'm still a beginner right now but one day I hope to be as good as the awesome people on this channel.

[@KiraAkaike]

@@CalligraphyMasters I'm not an artist either. I just have an obsession with stationery. I did take up calligraphy a couple of times but didn't really have the patience to practice Xd

[@zibbyz3402]

That in is so cool, thx for sharing

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you like it! You're most welcome ❤😍👊

[@RishaKhan1410]

Gothic is my most favourite 😍😍😍😍

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Thanks for the feedback :)

[@debajyotikuilya1377]

I can't find any of the nib and holder in amazon... So how can i get them?

[@MadebyEdgar]

debajyoti kuilya there are 2 places ‘www.paperinkarts.com’ or ‘www.johnnealbooks.com’

[@gwdavidson065]

J Herbin is the only inks I own and use everyday, I mix my inks as my edc pens are dropper fill, By mixing the inks I get some very beautiful colors, and I can make teal blacks and some deep red blacks with the gold and the sheen I get a lot of compliments on my writing. Mind you I don't think my writing is that good, For myself it's the best inks I've found, I like the feel of it and I don't have issues with it even if I'm just writing on everyday paper

[@santauxia]

Mirando este video me doy cuenta de que ninca aprendere a escribir asi'. IMPRESIONANTE

[@robertkirk4387]

I hate you! I would love to write as beautifully as you, Just wondrous, I know it's just practice but I just wouldn't have the Obvious dedication that you do, well done mate

[@bigdhav]

I really enjoy this ink with my lamy 1.1mm stub

[@sukilu1964]

Great vid, great review.

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you like it!! Thank you for watching

[@londonin1977]

May be on a black paper instead of some white papers?

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Good idea! Thanks for suggesting and for watching :)

[@ma.luisaisrael5414]

that was soooo incredible man it's so cool

[@CalligraphyMasters]

Glad you liked it!! Thank you for watching :))

[@slyknezz6862]

I bought some of that 52 g Tomoe paper and it doesnt perform well at all! As soon as I touch the paper with my pen it sucks the ink out and just makes a mess. I must have bought the wrong format I don’t know!

[@gointomexico]

Great review, thanks!

[@ronaldfabricante2158]

Your calligraphy is so beautiful. Do you do calligraphy for people? I was wondering if you can take a poem of mine and do calligraphy on it like you are doing right now with those beautiful colors? I was wondering if you can do something like an illuminated manuscript or something on my poem? Please let m know. Thank you very much!

[@smokingbeetles5793]

Beautiful review

[@msshaffer5]

Best ink ever!

[@arinjekkadage9973]

Sir pls send link to purchase glass pen ink particular name