it's kind of amazing how as an independent KZbinr, looppop has basically become the gold standard in reviews.
@mifflinfinity3 ай бұрын
That synth is one ‘sexy boy’! 😊
@arkasonus76783 ай бұрын
Maybe they could think about a module version 🙏🏻
@loopop3 ай бұрын
That would be nice!
@fiddlestickzmuzik3 ай бұрын
Its the synth I always wanted about ten years too late. I still might get one though. Reckon it will come to life with some nice pedals.
@lars19143 ай бұрын
2 voice for a digital synth is quite modest in this day and age.
@xfghffhfg3 ай бұрын
It's not digital only, the limited number of voices is because of the analog circuitry. maybe you missed that.
@scottlord52882 ай бұрын
It does what it does very very well. Not every synth needs to be a jack of all trades. I’d rather a tool do its job and inspire music, than have a feature list full of sales pitches :)
@xfghffhfg2 ай бұрын
@@scottlord5288 Copy paste this to all features counting complainers!
@dakoiaa3 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great analysis. Congrats!
@voidcat68763 ай бұрын
honestly not worth the 1.5k in my humble opinion , it was in the 700-900 will def be a buy , but for 1.5 k? you can pick a Hydrasynth Deluxe or an iridium core
@By_Rant_Or_Ruin3 ай бұрын
In my experience the more wiggle in a knob, the cheaper it is built and the shorter the life span. Good video. Thanks again.
@xfghffhfg3 ай бұрын
nice work sherlock
@avisintes47993 ай бұрын
TRU
@DavidChatterton-j6b2 ай бұрын
Agreed. The knobs should NOT be wobbling.
@klinkskeАй бұрын
Did you ever touch a microkorg?? See what they sell for 2nd hand
@devondetroit25292 ай бұрын
That latency with the knobs seems really bad
@neuroactive33013 ай бұрын
Excellent review once again!
@teamphil3 ай бұрын
I think it sounds great and the price seems very fair to me.
@Hrotti3 ай бұрын
Its so characterful
@ZAYAZOfficial3 ай бұрын
Before I read the manual, I watch Loopop.
@loopop3 ай бұрын
Thanks! But this doesn't even have a manual, I'm all ya got!
@ZAYAZOfficial3 ай бұрын
@@loopop exactly bro! You are better than any manual out there either way. 🤘🙂
@ZAYAZOfficial3 ай бұрын
@@loopopI should have originally posted, “before I read any synth manual, I watch loopop first”. I’ve learned lots of great stuff from your videos on gear that I’ve purchased. Thank you for your channel dude 🤘🙂
@RayyMusik3 ай бұрын
It definitely *should* have a manual at this price point!
@ZAYAZOfficial3 ай бұрын
@@RayyMusik agreed! Loopop saves the day.
@chapoteaukatz3 ай бұрын
tried this at a trade show and it sounds incredible irl. thought the price was insane until I tried it
@kaitlyn__L3 ай бұрын
For sure. There’s a lot to be said about finely-tuned analogue filters and a synth full of sweet spots. If I didn’t love playing 4-8 part chords with long tails I’d probably be very tempted by this. I’ve always had a soft spot for the OSCar. As it is though, I have one fairly-pricey analogue-filtered synth and don’t expect to own any more. But if I was still making up my mind this might have complicated the decision!
@chapoteaukatz3 ай бұрын
@@kaitlyn__L oh yeah, I’m certainly not buying it lol
@jmarvosa6x32 ай бұрын
something original or a Behringer churn&burn? easy choice
@chapoteaukatz2 ай бұрын
@@jmarvosa6x3 spend $300 or $1,500? sometimes an easy choice as well
@colinodea2407Ай бұрын
@@jmarvosa6x3not an easy choice at all. Who's all got 1400 quid to spend on this ! Not many I would say
@michasonstwer91763 ай бұрын
in its sound i can already hear a lot of new dark wave / cold wave / post punk songs
@AliAusAachen3 ай бұрын
1600 Euros is just overpriced but it sounds sick
@888visuals3 ай бұрын
How do you not have a million subs? There has to be at least that many synth fans out there? Jeez. ☝
@joelsilva66893 ай бұрын
I've always thought the same thing. Maybe there's less of us than we think. 🤷♂️
@phyxirian3 ай бұрын
I bet he made many more people synth people too :)
@lowstaar3 ай бұрын
r/synthesizers have 381K Members, so 1 million subs would be pretty much impossible
@neuronist3 ай бұрын
KZbin wouldn’t be the same without loopop
@ToyKeeper3 ай бұрын
There just aren't that many people who are interested in synthesis at a technical level, and enjoy spending their time basically reading synth manuals in video form.
@klinkske3 ай бұрын
This video made me buy a malevolent 😂
@blkrbbt3 ай бұрын
Im critical of PWM, because I love the Malevolent, but they dont supply a manual to describe exactly what the knob per function can do. And the design of the knob layout is a bit convoluted.
@JamesIsCommenting3 ай бұрын
Its called the Mantis because your wife will kill you if you bring home another synth
@lucid4843 ай бұрын
my saying is, if your wife every gets mad at you for buying something. She isn't the right wife... 😂😂😂😂
@DoctorColossus7773 ай бұрын
Well said, sir
@PLA.net-DANTE3 ай бұрын
😂😭Too good
@GreenHoleSun3 ай бұрын
To be precise: she will eat you with your new synth.
@tombasports3 ай бұрын
@@lucid484truer words have never been spoken of a marriage
@Finn.Diesel3 ай бұрын
Mantis is the synth of the year. Awesome VCF. I was checking my mailbox every day since its release for a loopop Video. 😀
@charmingpianovideos61853 ай бұрын
Another great video! Fortunate l didnt get any GAS for this one haha. I'd like to ask if you'd ever review the new Solar 42 from ELTA, I watched your review on the Solar 50, and woukd love to hear whar you think of the updated version. Thanks!
@loopop3 ай бұрын
Thanks! No plans for now but I think it’s an excellent improvement
@d3tuned3783 ай бұрын
1300+ for a 4 voice digital synth seems excessive, despite how great it clearly is
@loopop3 ай бұрын
I’m not arguing whether it’s worth it or not but the filters and drive are analog
@EVILJAMARR3 ай бұрын
I thought PWM stood for pulse width modulation, which is a favorite of mine 😅
@yourcitysleeps3 ай бұрын
The vibe at :40 🔥
@AngMoKio83 ай бұрын
A nice synth. But I really like it if a synth has a good onboard reverb. This one really doesn't convince me ...🙁
@TwinCitiesOxygen3 ай бұрын
Is there any indicator light like on on the bs2 to see where the presets knob setting originally was when adjusting a knob around?
@xfghffhfg3 ай бұрын
don't seem like it but a "pickup mode" may help.
@touarec3 ай бұрын
Great review, very informative thanks! Would you consider doing a review of the Dirtywave M8 tracker?
@loopop3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I have and would consider it (and any suggestion!) - depends what else is going on...
@franknicholls46983 ай бұрын
yes +1 for m8, pretty please
@johanneshej494023 күн бұрын
I just love the art design of this thing. Looks totally like something from the 80's but still original if you get what I mean. Sounds great too!
@synthsamuraiproductions3 ай бұрын
I want all the SYNTHS!!!! Moar!!!
@darwiniandude3 ай бұрын
Ooh, they sent you a Malevolent too. Keen to see that covered, there's one at a local music store I've played with a bit. Hard to resist.
@maxpowers34943 ай бұрын
Sounds straight out of a AIR album.
@MiltonGrimshaw3 ай бұрын
I love it, but £1350 is a silly pricetag for a 3 octave synth
@voidcat68763 ай бұрын
for that price you can literaly pick up a hydrasynth deluxe
@ksqmusic3 ай бұрын
There’s no other synth anywhere near that price point that gives you 8 filter types.
@voidcat68763 ай бұрын
@@ksqmusic *cof cof * digitakt 2 *cof cof*
@ksqmusic3 ай бұрын
@@voidcat6876 pretty sure the Digitakt filters aren’t analog.
@xfghffhfg3 ай бұрын
@@ksqmusic digitak is not a synth
@georgespencer39733 ай бұрын
I’m assuming loopop takes his watch off when doing these reviews to avoid the inevitable gang of hoodlems that will bash him for his choice of watch.
@loopop3 ай бұрын
ha yeah I gotta tan that part. Actually, I still wear an Apple Watch like I did in many of my first videos which no one gave me a hard time for, but the reflections annoyed me. Off to tan!
@GrootsieTheDog2 ай бұрын
"If I had to find one flaw" OMG lol. To say a synth has good build quality but just an inconvenient flaw, wobbly knobs, is like saying you have a great sports car but the steering wheel is wobbly...and the controls on the dash...and the hadles on the door...and...sorry, no. Sturdy well made quality knobs are where a synths buikd quality starts and finishes. But even if you don't agree with that, at the very least its not just a minor issue only worthy of a - If I HAD to say something negative...if you had to pull my arm, well then... Ugh. That all being said, I thnk this synth, build quality not withstanding, is a super cool synth.
@loopop2 ай бұрын
If I thought it was a huge deal I'd say it as such. If I thought it was nothing, I wouldn't mention it. It's not as bad as a wobbly steering wheel but not as good as a rock solid knob.
@VincentPresley3 ай бұрын
This is the closest sound to an OSCar you can get. Unfortunately the look and build are just not grabbing me. Especially since I have had an OSCar twice and think it’s one of the best and most unique looking synths ever. It’s not worth 5-6k for an OSCar but the Mantis just isn’t grabbing me. It’s nice to hear those driven dual filters again.
@dankeplace3 ай бұрын
It's a great synth, not something I would use but I get why it will sell well.
@earlsfield3 ай бұрын
Nothing special IMO. However it has great name of the late Chris Huggett attached to it. I kinda prefer Malevolent. Both of these synths somehow feel unfinished, maybe I am not digging them.
@eddievanheinous6663 ай бұрын
loopop was being pretty generous with the effects praise - I think they sound mid at best. Should be better for digital. And this synth is just begging for some true distortion.
@xfghffhfg3 ай бұрын
I will probably not buy it but it's one of the more special subtractive synths out there with many functions and sound abilities that don't exist on any other synth. It's clear the designers really tried hard to make something different here. I could give you examples but I guess you are just not into it so it will probably not be a logical discussion.
@earlsfield3 ай бұрын
@@xfghffhfg I would be happy for you to tell me what makes this synth special, especially with this price tag. If the filters are the selling point, I would look at Matriarch any day, especially due to the semi modular built (I love my Matriarch so much). If it is oscillators, I honestly can think of range of synths from MicroFreak/MiniFreak over Hydra, Argon, to Super 6/8/ Gemini or 3rd Wave that mix digital oscillators with analogue circuitry (Ok, hydra is full on digital). Even Minilogue xd can do most of the stuff seen here (oscillator section). Not to mention Matriarch if its about dual peak filters. I have modular filter very similar to this, it is nice, but aside of that , I really don't see what exactly is so special about this one. Happy to hear the explanation tho.
@sub-jec-tiv3 ай бұрын
Yeah the Matriarch is a super classic and totally incredible (opinion). I’d have a hard time pulling the trigger on Mantis when Matriarch exists. Obviously sounds totally different due to the oscillators and filter. But i already own a couple of digital osc synths so i guess it’s not for me. This would be a great synth for someone who doesn’t own any odd digital oscillator synths.
@earlsfield3 ай бұрын
@@sub-jec-tiv With this price tag, there are probably 10 other poly synths I would go first. Only 4 voices and somewhat "para" approach than real polyphony. It costs almost as REV2 - c mon.
@Dead_Welsh3 ай бұрын
Another great video, will you be making one on the Malevolent?
@loopop3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Probably not, a lot of people covered it and it's quite simple and easy to understand so I don't feel like I have much to add that's not already been said
@christoroppolo87423 ай бұрын
I filled the user bank immediately it’s a beast and very capable. The sync to external clock still needs work for external devices hopefully it will be done soon. 👽
@entropybentwhistle3 ай бұрын
Didn’t the rep at Superbooth say the paraphony was kicked up to 4 voice polyphany after they did some tinkering?
@loopop3 ай бұрын
yes, I explain that in the video
@luisbarrera57403 ай бұрын
I don't like the sounds. Based on the performance, it seems like an incomplete synthesizer. I do like the oscillator drift and its twin filter gimmick. But ultimately, I don't find it compelling enough to consider. Shame. I wanted to like it. TEO5 it is then.
@gooneybird808Ай бұрын
I liked the first one better
@Expectaz3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@danwentz3 ай бұрын
Interesting times we live in, I’ve lost count of new synths!
@TwinCitiesOxygenАй бұрын
How was the latency on the knob adjustments?
@loopopАй бұрын
I demo this in the video - you can judge for yourself whether it's acceptable or not
@SonicVibe3 ай бұрын
Sounds great 👍
@lachopakapura3 ай бұрын
Great review as always... But I don't know... I don't hear any sounds that my trusty rev2 can't do.
@loopop3 ай бұрын
Thanks! The rev2 is awesome, with more polyphony and very interesting sequencer, but can't make the wavetable/organ sounds nor the dual filter and distorted sounds this can, and the reverb is quite different
@xfghffhfg3 ай бұрын
I hear mostly sounds my rev2 can't do :)
@RPLKTR3 ай бұрын
Intriguing synth but Minilogue Xd is right there costing 3X less for twice the voices.
@loopop3 ай бұрын
It's cheaper for sure and gives Mantis a good fight, I just want to correct your observation about voices. Except for the filters, both have 4 voices. I'm not saying Mantis is better, but the two filters in Mantis are very different and can make sounds XD can't. However, the filter on XD is per voice as opposed to global on Mantis , and XD has user oscillators and effects, so it's certainly no slouch
@InFamousProductions3 ай бұрын
It does have its own sound, and if I had extra cash, it would be fun to have. It does have a quasi old schools sound, but more bite for sure. That random feature pushes into an almost must have category.
@xfghffhfg3 ай бұрын
Why almost? every digitally controlled synth should have random, and undo :)
@infindebula3 ай бұрын
Hi @Loopop Will you be reviewing the Malevolent as well?
@loopop3 ай бұрын
@@infindebula no sorry I have too much coming up
@cauldronofbats3 ай бұрын
This is a real fat sounding synth.
@ildarkinildarkin3 ай бұрын
Obvious question from Nick Batt: Does PWM Mantis have PWM?
@loopop3 ай бұрын
Yes of course shown in the video
@garyphillips7253 ай бұрын
Strange. You click on the user's guide PDF link on the website and it downloads the Malevolent PDF. I'd like to know how much external MIDI CC control there is. Cheers!
@loopop3 ай бұрын
quite a lot, I got a draft - I didn't go over it one by one but it seems like every parameter that's saved with presets
@NOLNV13 ай бұрын
The sound at 41:54 is god damn magical
@tombasports3 ай бұрын
So torn great form factor sounds that can replace a Moog sub37 but it’s missing the sequencer and led
@InFamousProductions3 ай бұрын
But adding an external sequencer is so easy, I think it’s ok to not have it
@vertigev3 ай бұрын
Oh, it's way more expensive than i assumed 😢
@frankschneider71903 ай бұрын
great review! thanks. But the concept of the synth is a bit weired.
@loopop3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I agree with you, it's kind of doing its own thing away from the crowd
@krakulandia3 ай бұрын
Might be one of the best sounding analogs ever made IMHO.
@moonshine73743 ай бұрын
I agree, those digital oscillators are beasts!
@nalaeel2193 ай бұрын
Can it BoC tho?
@loopop3 ай бұрын
I believe so
@TwinCitiesOxygen3 ай бұрын
BoC?
@danielpirone80283 ай бұрын
Boards of Canada
@TwinCitiesOxygen3 ай бұрын
@@danielpirone8028 I’m like “blue oyster cult” Me: Mantis, we need more cowbell
@entropybentwhistle3 ай бұрын
@@danielpirone8028Bored of BoC. I want to know if it can BÖC!
@vasil30892 ай бұрын
That chirpy sound at the end was painful even at low volume.. Thanks for another great review.
@loopop2 ай бұрын
Thanks but which one specifically? what time in the video?
@bricelory95342 ай бұрын
@@loopop not the OP but for me, listening through a phone, the patch at 47:51 was piercing. I'm guessing that's the one they meant.
@TwinCitiesOxygen3 ай бұрын
43:12 reminds me of See you by DM
@ubustudio3 ай бұрын
I might have missed it but there didn’t seem to be a sustain/hold function. What’s up with that? Thanks for another great review!
@zdravkodimitrov3 ай бұрын
There's a sustain pedal input
@loopop3 ай бұрын
there's a hold function in the joystick and a sustain pedal input
@blipblip883 ай бұрын
Neat! Thanks.
@_fig.83 ай бұрын
32:30!!!
@juniorvicepresidentofzimba49463 ай бұрын
I know this is a 'good' synth cerebrally, but physically I totally hate how it makes me feel when I hear it. Just goes to show you personal tastes are pretty weirdly different.
@TwinCitiesOxygen3 ай бұрын
Aside from not being Polyphonic I feel like my Behringer wasp could cover a lot of this territory, I’d just have to sample it.
@xfghffhfg3 ай бұрын
Does your guitar cover the territory of your violin?
@vitaobassbr3 ай бұрын
I still dont see why the hype in this synth
@loopop3 ай бұрын
I actually don’t think there is hype - it was announced over a year ago and it’s now available, seemed interesting so I’m checking it out
@vitaobassbr3 ай бұрын
@@loopop Yeah, I now what you mean. But before your video, I've only seen demonstrations that don't show anything other than distortion patches that I can make on my BS2 and sounds that I don't see myself using. Your video showed much more, as always. But it's not a synth for me. About the hype: I noticed on the channels that I follow that there was a hype around it. But maybe it was just an effect of my YT echo chamber.
@d0nn13m0n03 ай бұрын
Filter sounds so steppy
@colinodea2407Ай бұрын
See when he gets sent the Synths etc is it on loan or can he keep them. If so I wanna see what his synth room looks like 😂
@loopopАй бұрын
I keep them most of the time, and yes it's pretty insane
@colinodea2407Ай бұрын
@@loopop amazing perks of the job man. Thanks for the reply
@PC00673 ай бұрын
Sympa mais ça sonne comme un vst avec certes un très bon filtrage. 2 voies poly... Insuffisant.