Reviewing the WORST REAL HIGHWAY LAYOUTS in Cities Skylines 2!

[@RealCivilEngineerGaming]

When you forget to play the game... 😅

[@zachryder3150]

*Return of the King*

[@TorontoBlueJaysFan11]

Hi Matt

[@FIFAGamer7788]

Yeah finally you have play my favorite game

[@TycerKirk]

timberborn update soon also, are you maybe gonna ask if they could wiggle in a little RCE surprise into timberborn?

[@oliviawolcott8351]

you mention maintaining the bridges and highways in the US. me: ppppfbbt. maintain.... maintain... good sir, bold of you to think we maintain our infrastructure. there's a reason why my state is nicknamed pothole-vania. I wouls however love more of these highway/interchange/bridge review vids. they were fun. but I do think the marks on that one interchange were for rumble strips.

[@downtownredneck5079]

This was fun to watch, wouldn't mind having a few more like it. Have you ever broken down the Texas Stack interchanges? SUPER TALL flyover bridges and tons of lanes with a speed consistent with highway speeds on the exit lanes. My favorite is the intersection between I-10, 620 loop, and highway 290 in Houston. 29°46'50.1"N 95°27'13.8"W Massive

[@video4sissies]

High 5 in Dallas is WAY better

[@downtownredneck5079]

@@video4sissies While taller and bigger I still stand by the I-10/610/290 interchange as it's more complex with more strangeness. High 5 is impressive, no question as it's the biggest but at it's core it's a simple flyover design. Not belittling it as it's efficient and impressive just very... normal?

[@TerryTags]

@@video4sissies I live a mile from the HIGH 5 and I drive it EVERY DAY from the area of 75 Central Expwy (near Dave and Busters on Walnut Hill) to get onto 635 LBJ westbound. it's hysterical to watch people try to drive on it during wintry conditions, LMAO, it's easy money for news crews looking to get B-Roll footage of Texans who can't drive on ice!

[@subynut]

I visited Dallas earlier in the year and I was flabbergasted at those crazy highway interchanges there! Mind you, I'm from Southern Arizona where crazy for me is...Phoenix! LOL

[@downtownredneck5079]

@@TerryTags LOL, that is an incredibly accurate statement. We for sure don't know how to drive on anything other than dry roads.

[@rpgaholic8202]

Had to stop and count the wheels on the double-trailer that RCE commented on. You see 11 rims, which means a minimum of 22 wheels... however trailers like that often have double-wheels on the back ones to deal with all the weight they're hauling but never the very front set because that would interfere with steering. That means it could be as many as 42 wheels on that vehicle.

[@Nareimooncatt]

It's sometimes called a Michigan centipede. Michigan allows much heavier trucks on their state roads than other states, so you see those all over the place. A standard semi is legal for 80,000 lbs gross weight, but I think Michigan allows up to 150,000 lbs provided you have enough wheels and long enough wheel base.

[@BEASTboy0831]

@@NareimooncattI’m a Michigander and I can confirm

[@Rainersherwood]

Tons of states allow triple trailers, and 22 wheels is nothing. Look up low boy heavy load trailers. Some have wheels that go pretty much the whole width of the trailer on multiple axels. Like +40 tires sometimes.

[@ringtailedfox]

yeah, in the USA and Canada, those "hatchings" are called "singing medians" and were common in the 1950s and 1960s, becuase they'd make a noisy vibration if you were to drive over them. the idea is that they'd be placed in the central reservation of an avenue or boulevard of a busy road to prevent people from driving across into the other lanes of traffic, though it could still allow people access to and from driveways of houses or businesses. Obviously they're no longer up to standard, though you can still see them here and there on older roads that don't really need reconstruction (like Essex County Road 20 in La Salle, Ontario, or Robertson Road, the old routing of Highway 15, in Bell's Corners, near Ottawa, Ontario)... As for that giant truck with all the wheels.. that's an articulated dump truck.. great for hauling gravel, stone, broken-up concrete... my father used to drive those. He looked empty, but they can haul up to 100,000 kg (about 100 tons)! The painted lines on the hatchings are called "gore markings" because they're at angles to the lanes. I agree with you that the ones at Portage Lake Bridge are reversed, but likely pre-date 1971, when the version of the Manual for Uniform Traffic Control Devices (the road markings and signs standard the USA, Canada and a few others use) was published, specifying gore paint colours (yellow/black) and that two-way traffic lanes should be separated by a yellow line, not white anymore, and that hatchings should ideally have a colour on them in high-traffic areas. Ideally, the gore markings would try to lead your eyes *AWAY* from an obstacle like a bridge pillar, or a widening/narrowing of a road from a single-carriageway to dual-carriageway, or an off-ramp so you don't thread the needle and end up stuck between them. The longitudinal grooves at the US 41 hamburger-ish roundabout seem to be there for vibration/noise to alert the drive to stop IMMEDIATELY!, as well as to help with the flow of rainwater, since it is on a hill and the upper peninsula of michigan gets a good amount of rain at times. Had the hamburger-ish roundabout been designed today, there would be the stop signs WITH flashing yellow lights, possibly with a yellow sign with black text that says "GIVE WAY TO CROSS TRAFFIC" or "WAIT UNTIL CLEAR", with the idea that the blinking light would be extra-visible at night or if there's fog. There is a saving grace here: both streets that connect to this are a one-way pair, vastly reducing the numbre of movement possibilities! I doubt there's really a need for a traffic light (and if one was installed, there would need to be two, to serve that one-way street below and prevent back-ups)... with the hill, Veterans Memorial Park at the top of said hill, and the lake adding geographic constraints, this appears to be close to the best of a tricky situation in regards to traffic management. As for the first bridge, that's the Trans-Canada Highway (BC Highway 1) in North Vancouver, British Columbia. That's an express-collector (or collector-distributor) setup with four carriageways. That's nowhere CLOSE to the maximum number of lanes for that type of freeway-in-a-freeway, though... check out the original that did it, Interstate 94 (Dan Ryan Expressway, built in the early 1960s) In Chicago, or Interstate 96 (late 1960s) Detroit, or Highway 401 at any point between Milton, Ontario and Oshawa, Ontario in the Greater Toronto Area... Highway 401 has EIGHTEEN LANES in a 4x5x5x4 configuration throughout most of it! And yet it's always gridlocked anyway, go figure... For the last interchange, That's where Florida's Turnpike (Florid Highway 91 but NEVER signed as such!) meets Interstate 95 and a couple other state routes... near Miami, Florida those two lanes that go high above everyone else are High Occupancy Toll (HOT, basically carpool) lanes, designed to ferry cars, vans and so on full of people over and around everyone else, if they're fine with paying a few extra dollars to avoid any traffic slow-downs. They're becoming quite common on otherwise toll-free interstates as of late, and are getting popular. The only real alternative to the dedicated bridges for the HOT lanes would be to widen Interstate 95 and shove them on the inside of THAT. Florida Department of Transportation likely had the room, but saw the eye-watering costs of having to widen or replace all those bridges, and thought "screw it, it's cheaper to just do it this way" instead. The tall HOT flyover isn't even the tallest overpass i've seen. Check otu the ones in Houston or Dallas in texas if you want some truly insane, huge and TALL five or six-level interchanges. They really do build things bigger in the lone star state! Why no, i'm not an engineer, just a guy that has spent WAY too much time in traffic, and WAY too much time in SimCity 4 Deluxe plotting out ways to fix said traffic :P

[@GWPeasey]

Thank you for the additional context and further breakdown :)

[@agilemind6241]

Highway 401 I think is just the best example of how inefficient highways are, because not only is there that massive highway (that is constantly gridlocked) there are passenger and freight train lines parallel to it that carry nearly as many people as the highway in a tiny fraction of the space.

[@crosbybreedlove7407]

Were you righting a 3 1/2 page video review, or did you just want to yap?

[@canadian_grim_reaper]

@@agilemind6241 What do you mean, clearly the solution is to build a tunnel with another highway under that one! No more traffic, 100% /s

[@casehill417]

I love it when people give deep dives like this. I'm now looking all of this up for more information. I screenshotted your comment just so I can have it for reference to research. Thank you for taking the time to make this comment! 💖

[@ColtonAngermeier]

12:54 The Yooper Loop is one of the most frustrating pieces of road and very difficult for non-locals to navigate. There are even shirts available saying “I Survived the Yooper Loop” 😂 Love this interchange review video! Keep them coming.

[@mikehulway7735]

YOOPER LOOOOOOOP

[@AxelRipper49]

Big fan of Houghton/Hancock and totally lost my mind when the Yooper Loop popped up

[@Deamons-fo3dq]

Michigan Tech check in

[@dkman9461]

The Keweenaw is my favorite place to be. I've been there every summer of my life and somehow never knew that was called the Yooper Loop. I gotta see if my grandma knew that the whole time lol

[@dkman9461]

@@Deamons-fo3dq Just down the road from the interchange lol

[@lorinjacobs2917]

The etched in lines are often called rumble strips. they are to assist drivers in maintaining lane position in snowy conditions. great video idea

[@donaldbarnard7349]

They are also for Truck drivers know where the edge of the road is, some of the others are to help with drainage, the train yard in Cape Horn is a switching yard

[@catzy02]

Those are definitely rumble strips. They are used on the center a sides of most highways to wake up drivers. I’ve also seen them used across the whole highway as you are approaching a sharp curve or before toll booth. Basically anywhere that you want to make sure the driver is alerted.

[@ThatGuyVlogs]

Also I’ve heard they’re to help wake you up if you fall asleep n veer off the road

[@KatsuneGaming]

They also work great when the road is covered in snow, you're going up a hill, and start to lose traction. It happened to me once because of an unwise route, it saved us from an accident (aka, sliding back into the car behind us). I should specify, I'm referring to the ones on freeways/highways.

[@hardkorehak]

@@catzy02 Agreed to an extent. The batch of 2 right in front of the stop sign. The moment you feel those rumble, you are already plowing that stop sign.

[@Polyrux]

2:15 - The reason there is 4 highways is because in Canada it is very common on our busiest highways to have both an express and collectors highway (so its 2 highways each way). The express has specific merge points every few exits and are intended for people who will be on the highway for a long period of time so they're less bothered by merging traffic, where as the collectors side is always connected to the exits and slowed down/impeded by by incoming and outgoing traffic.

[@nukulator]

8:05 I don't think Matt knows how arrows work

[@3riccar10]

thats what i was saying lol! i was like its simple left 2 lanes is straight and 3rd lane is straight or exit. the left 2 lanes cant crossover until after the crossing is completed.

[@official_youtube]

I was thinking the same, but about 15 seconds after this, he explains that the arrow lanes are for the right turn (to eventually go left), not the split.

[@Capumaraca]

I'm not sure you know how driver works.

[@TazedPickle]

I don’t think you know how vision works The end two lanes are for turning right

[@snowe..]

@@3riccar10those two lanes are for turning right, not for curving right. The intersection doesn’t make sense

[@MilkyWayVG]

For the record. The first bridge in Canada was built with no countermeasures to prevent ice buildup on the wires. So we had ice bombs falling on ppl’s cars the first year it was done

[@pokeio2]

To be fair it rarely gets to icicle situation in vancouver more than once a year so just deicing it a couple times a year is more cost effective than an entire heating system the problem is more clearing it before rush hour starts in the once a year blizzard

[@bleistift2775]

22:40 ”The expensive part of a bridge is, like, the bridge part” - sCiEnCe

[@mrbell2827]

Underrated comment! I totally missed that That’s hilarious

[@rajivkandial8352]

Yea right ​@@mrbell2827

[@MichaelMoore99]

"Naw... I never knew that... I never knew that..."

[@LolSho0orTs]

Oh wow wow Wow

[@ekvictory007]

Some knowledge from a corner carver: The hatching being goofy in Michigan might be angled for drainage and snow removal too. I grew up in CT, rumble strips on the side of the highway can collect water and catch plow blades leading to icy potholes that spin you out or suck you into the ditch. It's really just a texture to make noise and alert anyone falling asleep or not paying attention. For those same 2 reasons, reflectors are set into the road surface so plows don't catch them, whereas in CA there are often no zizzies and reflectors are mounted on top to make noise (saves time on road construction over long stretches as well). Rumble strips also catch a lot of the junk that can appear at the side of the road (broken parts, debris, etc) and have been used in intersections to allow a place for that stuff to collect so it doesn't get run over.

[@fruitfulconnoisseur]

7:54 Matt they're clearly two lanes dedicated to going up into the other three lanes it also allows for a straight right turn The part where it wraps around is for the bus because of the bus lane

[@cheffrin3751]

As a Michigander I can tell you, nobody even pays attention to lines in the road. It's soo bad. People are so bad at roundabouts here it's insane. I take two to work and every day I say "What are you doing?!?!" at least once. haha I'd love to see how smoothly traffic in other countries operates.

[@bradschrader2805]

I agree roundabouts are a nightmare when people decide that the lines don't matter. Also Hi from Michigan also.

[@williamfountaine6432]

We have lines? I had no idea 😂

[@cheffrin3751]

@williamfountaine6432 right?! 🤣🤣

[@ar51299]

Roundabouts cause tornados so drive straight through instead 🙃

[@sarahcarlyle6239]

Also from Michigan and can confirm 👌 I'm in a smaller town and we have a college that brings in people from EVERYWHERE who often don't understand the way our roads work. Not to mention when snow hits!!!!

[@Kyriiakii]

That last interchange with the huge viaduct over everything is just an express pay lane for only north/south. So over the top and it still backs up!

[@fabianwolf6849]

8:42 → proof that RCE doesn't understand arrows ❤

[@King69-e5t]

Thank you

[@AtephiousCB]

the etchings in the hatches are intentional they're cut into the road with a big saw to create sections of road that are rough enough to vibrate and alert drivers that they are outside their lane, even potentially waking drivers who've fallen asleep

[@altrossalexx2705]

For the line on the wrong side.. those line are groove that make you car vibrite and huge sound in case you fall a sleep or on your cellphone to wake you up like... HEY WAKE UP YOU GOING OUT YOUR LINE. The more you know :)

[@OpDDay2001]

Yeah, I was gonna say that they're probably Rumble Strips more than demarcations.

[@kross8471]

Sonic Nap Alert Pattern (SNAP) . sleeper lines or rumble strips is often what they are referred to as. Very common in PA.

[@Milner62]

Yep, it doesnt matter how the lines are stripped thats not what denotes you dont cross it, the fact its a yellow line denotes you cant cross it.

[@barb4rian]

Really appreciate the Initial D reference at 8:20. Good job editor!

[@TheGearJamminDeer]

15:27 Ahh, good ol Michigan Millipede. Michigan has very unique weight laws for commercial trucks; I don't know what they are exactly as I'm not actually from Michigan, but if I remember correctly, they don't actually have a gross weight limit like all the other states do, their weight limits are per axle up to 11 axles. so the more axles on the truck, the more weight it can legally carry without a special permit. (once again, I'm not actually from, nor do I drive truck in Michigan, so I may have gotten some of that wrong) added note, that particular truck has 38 individual wheels!

[@bifflowman2948]

The first city is Vancouver area. There's a lot of rivers, so putting different highways together over the same bridge was more efficient.

[@TravellerBrianN]

Greetings from Vancouver, Canada! Happy to see RCE do a bridge review on a bridge I drive on all the time!

[@inanimatej]

Lowkey, wouldn't mind an RCE bridge review of the Patullo, am I right?

[@TravellerBrianN]

@inanimatej can you guess which bridge is in my profile? It's from an atypical angle that I took myself.

[@inanimatej]

@ at first glance, looks like the Lions’ Gate, taken from below facing southish into Stanley Park

[@ranti_gamer2989]

​@@TravellerBrianNas a polish person this looks like its a bridge somewhere in the world

[@TravellerBrianN]

@@ranti_gamer2989 It's the Lions Gate Bridge, 30 minute drive from the Port Mann that RCE reviewed.

[@borkrage9128]

I'll point out a few things about the lift bridge interchange (Yooper loop as the locals call it). One of the reasons people point it out as being so bad is because when you are coming from downtown there is very little in the way of signage explaining where you will need to be to go where you want. So if you are unfamiliar with it, very rapidly you get to it with little time or indication of how to go where you want. This leads a lot of people to just go around the loop and possibly come back through downtown to try again, or in some rare cases people just drive across lanes of traffic they aren't supposed to. Another thing, that short merge area is even shorter then it seems since its not uncommon for people to be going 30-35mph (48-56 kph). Its not particularly busy compared to big cites but for the low population of the area it does tend to get very busy being the only road across the long portage canal and up to the rest of the peninsula. Lastly a few reasons I expect they don't put a roundabout there. One the small green area there is a veterans memorial park so they would probably end up needing to remove that. Next is when the lift bridge is up that whole interchange gets filled backing up all of downtown and I could imagine when the traffic starts again a round about would end up in a lot of people waiting to get on not letting the jam clear as fast. Last is that a lot of large semi trucks use that route so it would need to be particularly large to accommodate them which gets a bit complicated due to geography. The cities of Houghton and Hancock(the city on the other end of the bridge) are built on either side of a rather steep valley. So going going north or south is necessarily also changing elevation on a pretty steep incline meaning to make space for a round about would also need to dig out a lot that hill to get enough space.

[@dkman9461]

Exactly, when you essentially grew up going through the interchange, its not that bad. But when the tourist season arrives, the number of cars increases and include the fact they don't know the area? Gets backed up quick sometimes. Especially with so many people coming from the commercial area near the Walmart.

[@arguekayes]

19:25 pretty sure those grooves are horizontal to keep drivers in their lane, or atleast that how they’re used in my state. If a driver veers outta lane the tires hit those grooves and make whole car vibrate and thump and on straight roads they’re used to scare people awake.

[@xarin42]

Still means they're facing a weird way.

[@jerbar1280]

That first one you looked at is not far from where I live. I have had to use that a few times, and when you are on it, it's not as bad as it seems from the arial view. There is an area and another bridge not far from there that gets clogged up much worse all the time called the Alex Fraser Bridge. And anyone who has had to cross that one during rush hour knows what I mean.

[@EoghanBell]

Was literally on it the other day and you are 100% correct. I've had more confusion driving around Dublin or London than in that section of highway in the VMA

[@ala5530]

Just to point out Matt, there are UK roads with new Stop signs (not just replacement ones when the old ones die the death, or temporary ones around roadworks). An example would be the junction of Larchfield St and Duke St in Darlington (54.525422, -1.560692): that junction had Give Way signs on Larchfield until they altered the layout of Duke St around 5 years ago (making it one-way eastbound, adding a cycle lane and adding in some kerb extensions in places, notably at that junction and west of it), when they added a Stop to the north side of the junction (the south side remains a Give Way, for some reason)

[@RealCivilEngineerGaming]

Yeah i should have been clearer, you need a departure from standard to install a stop sign and they'd only be on existing roads (improvements to) rather than brand new roads where there were none before!

[@cavins1994]

Fun Fact, The Portage Lake Lift Bridge set the world record for being the world's heaviest double-decked vertical-lift span at the time and the first bridge in the US to use an intermediate lift span position. 13:15

[@SwearWoolf]

In the US when you have the center lanes splitting off and going off on their own, those are express lanes. You know you aren’t turning off the freeway until you’re through all the mess, you hop on the express lane and just skip to the other end.

[@tamparockout17]

19:15 idk how it’s done in the UK but typically we can understand no drive zones even if the lines aren’t explicitly in the “proper” direction

[@Milner62]

In the US direction doesnt matter as much as the color does. Yellow Lines = You can not legally cross, these are lane dividers for two way traffic White Lines = You can legally cross, these are lane dividers for one way traffic unless on a two way rural road then white lines are used to divide the lane but also allow passing in designated areas.

[@XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX]

@@Milner62 Brother you can't talk about that without mentioning solid or dashed. I'll add. Solid Yellow: Do not cross Dashed Yellow: If safe, you can temporarily cross to pass or make a turn Solid white: You can cross, but you should avoid doing so Dashed white: Go ahead and cross buddy There is a weird exception with the center-turn lanes though. They will have a solid yellow on your side, and a dashed yellow on the other side, but here you can cross and sit in there until you can make a turn.

[@johnb0815]

as kids, when we went on a trip, my brother and me sometimes went through the big ADAC (German AA) Street Atlas and just looked at highway junctions, tracing all the different ways to go. this was long before google maps and smartphones

[@OneOddSpecimen]

you think American trucks are big? you should see Aussie road trains 👀

[@xarin42]

Yeah, I think the most I've seen on what is called a truck train where I live in the USA is 3 followers. Australian ones can go pretty crazy in comparison to that XD

[@lucerna313]

For the one in Madrid, the arrows indicated the direction so for a straight arrow it's not possible to turn.

[@IanTheWonderDog]

The hatchings being the "Wrong Way" are rumble strips. When you drive over them, it vibrates the car, making a loud noise and indicating to the driver your shouldn't be there. I will say VISUALLY, it is confusing, but still helps. Also, as an American, I find RCE's aversions to stop signs confusing.

[@RomanII1997]

I think the problem with stop signs is, that for optimal traffic you want the cars to drive as close to the same speed at all time as possible and a stop sign just creates a forced interruption in flow which is going to multiply the more ppl are actually driving the lane. One stop sign can cause a traffic jam on its own

[@IanTheWonderDog]

@RomanII1997 yeah. For this intersection especially, a stop sign isn't great, but there are a lot of intersections that stop signs are perfectly functional and would not benefit from a traffic signal, which is what RCE seemed to be implying? Not sure.

[@suokkos]

@@IanTheWonderDog He implied that road design is bad if you put stop signs. He prefers roundabouts if there is enough space. But traffic lights can have a big advantage over stop signs if they are designed to synchorinize timings with nearby other traffic lights. That way people need to stop much less than stop sign crossings.

[@Smidge204]

20:37 "Why the curves?" - because curves are fast. The grids and sharp angles at the surface streets maximize property frontage and help keep speeds lower (a good thing in residential areas) but you want large radius, swoopy roads on highways so you can keep your speed up.

[@anxious_and_avoidant]

He did address that a minute or so later lol

[@sheiksubra]

If there's 4 separated lanes it's usually express In the middle. You get to your destination faster when you don't have to worry about people merging in and out of local traffic. Just don't get on If you're only going 1 mile ahead it'll probably skip atleast 4-5 exits.

[@avoncho4390]

I am from Madrid, in the scenarios from 7:40, the arrows painted in the lanes indicate what you can or can't do if you stay on them. If you are on a lane which arrow only points straight, you are supposed to go straight, and same case if pointing left or right. If the arrow splits, then you can go whichever direction you want. This is thought so drivers don't bump into each other because supposedly the scenario you mentioned doesn't happen. It is not used to signalize going into the roundabout, as you are supposed to get into it beforehand. Unfortunately, people sometimes don't see the arrows on time or simply don't respect them 😅 Hope it helped 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@pssnyder]

So for that route in michigan and the hatch marks, we use rumble strips as a road alert method. On nearly every rural road north of mid-way through the state, all shoulders and center lines on roads will have rumble cuts in them. In the state of Michigan you can drive for 16 hours straight and never leave the state, we have a lot of folks fall asleep behind the wheel up north so the hash marks are to jar the driver back into a state of alternes as they approach a change in the road. Also in those parts of the state its pitch black at night, they literally call it Dark Sky Park up there for a reason. I do see how the visual paint could be the other direction though to help guide drivers but, yea, thats why there are cuts in the concrete.

[@UlisesShah]

"Look how many lanes there are!" Car-centric North America be like: "Oh really."

[@Rapitor]

20:38 the reason for highways and such being super curvy while every other road is sharp and grid in the US is because of two things, speed and military. Cars on the highway move faster, so wider turns, that's pretty self explanatory... Military is a bit more nuanced. Because by federal law every highway must support military vehicles, and in many cases have the ability to act as emergency runways for landing and take off. The nightmare interchanges are mostly just chaos incarnate trying to handle the massive amount of cars we have... there's usually little to no other form of people transport for Americans.

[@Agent_Chieftain]

As someone who lives in the Vancouver area, it's fun to see the first highway being one I know very well. I was just driving through there the other weekend to visit my aunt. But yeah, it works. You just can't miss your exit, or you'll be going a long way until you can turn around again.

[@whitetailprince]

love how it was supposed to be a vid about building one in city skylines, spends the whole time reviewing and builds nothing, yet i dont even care because it was still fun to watch.

[@TheHorzabora]

Those rumble markings are pretty much correct, in my experience. I get what you’re saying and understand how the work in the UK, but my experience of driving across the pond is that they’re there to alert me in case of snow on the road, or simply falling asleep / theta brainwave at the wheel.

[@RealCivilEngineerGaming]

A 5m long rumble just before a junction isn't going to do a lot if you're asleep! We have rumble strips here but they're on the edge of highways, not sure that's what these are- maybe for snow, but surely they'd still work better if they were in the opposite direction no?

[@TimeKitt]

@@RealCivilEngineerGaming They do work for larger trucks (lorries?) as it can be a bit hard to track all your corners on odd curves like this and its already quite a slow area probably. Might not save you if you were going to hit the curb right there, but you know something has gone wrong before reaching the other side of the intersection. Once you have trailers in the mix, its a "next time" problem that keeps you from becoming too confident about having enough room.

[@UlisesShah]

I think RCE would like the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Bridge (Lake Shore Drive) in Chicago. It is a double-decker drawbridge, with 4 lanes on top, and 2 lanes plus a bicycle and walking path on the bottom.

[@0megaming]

When you hear Matt talk about road markings (not the missing ones, I agree at them better being added) being wrong (Matt, those are marked fields with an outline around them, the stripes on them just mark, that it´s the entire space, where only oversized transports should be able to cut over, when they arrive at night in the cities) and see him ignore, that some interchanges and hamburger-roundabout layouts have traffic lights. Love, cuddles and headpats for Paddy :3c

[@tyhodnett3031]

The Texas-style stack interchange is the superior design. The Dallas area even has the mythical six-level stack interchange. I sometimes purposely drive into downtown Dallas just to use the Horseshoe and all its bridge-to-tunnel glory.

[@HovektheArtist]

I moved from Texas to Florida, to grt to the town over, 3 stack and a 4th coming soon

[@xammax_8899]

WE DEMAND MORE ENGINEERING VIDEOS SUCH AS THIS also dont hesitate to go indepth with the explaining on terms and things.

[@DavidSimmons42]

My comment on that last interchange, with Matt saying such high bridges cost a lot in maintenance. Uhm, you guys in the UK maintain your bridges? Like, that's a weird concept. We just make em and leave em half the time. It keeps life exciting knowing you're on a bridge that got a D rating in its last review.

[@Vicky21987]

"Never eat shredded wheat"... took me second to understand why Matt said that just completely randomly 😂

[@loganwind2680]

The yooper loop is a brilliant piece of engineering. The interchange was designed to keep traffic flowing during the winter as that area gets TONS of snow and ice making it safer but preventing stops

[@taylor....]

Lane separation is good, the congestion starts because idiots DON'T pick the correct lane to begin with, so if the choice is taking away the roads improve

[@Cat__fella]

Babe, wake up. RCE just uploaded another city skylines 2 video

[@JamieAubrey]

Oe did he

[@frtzkng]

Most confusing about US highways is how they set up speed limits. Like, they build a highway curve designed for 100mph and then make the speed limit something like 55. Here in Germany, when the highway is designed for 100mph, you are allowed to go 100mph. (You _could_ legally go faster but at some point physics stops you from driving, or living, ever again)

[@theasl_2]

IIRC the speed limits used to be higher (and in some places no limits at all), but then the government decreased them during the 1970s oil crisis to reduce fuel usage, and just never raised them back up again

[@metalslinger]

@@theasl_2 They did raise them again in either the late 80s or early 90s. I remember driving through Georgia on I-20 at 55mph. Now you can go 70. Hell, there are some places out west where the limit is 80, like South Dakota.

[@ebnertra0004]

Here in my corner of the US (MN), it seems like the road authorities have started to realize that they should be designing roads for the speeds they want from the start. I hope they stick to it

[@Justatypicaldev]

Trans-Canada-Highway got the record for longest street in the world since it runs all the way across Canada

[@adamhbiggs]

The last interchange is also known locally as spaghetti junction. I've been lost there, and also been stuck in traffic for several hours on top of the big flyover. "Literally" every morning it's a mess.

[@Geekstin]

We also have a spaghetti junction in Auckland, NZ - -36.86004768326159, 174.76005130598. Theres a lot of vertical changes and overlapping lanes.

[@ExperiencersInternational]

Had to say it did remind me of the spaghetti junction in Birmingham ngl

[@Burninnapalm]

8:06 No matt, you knob... those turn lanes are for the diverging 3 lanes. only the right 2 lanes can go into the right 3 lanes at the split. It makes perfect sense.

[@seth2111]

beat me to it

[@Nifalh]

The marking don't stop people from doing what he said. Many times people from left lane cut right in front of me then goes right.

[@oshy4485]

@@Nifalhyour Not allowed to …

[@cern1999sb]

​@@oshy4485You have to assume that people will not follow the rules unless they're really obvious. There are plenty of roundabouts in the UK where people will cut across lanes because they didn't know which one to use, and they're a darn sight clearer than this

[@RainHeart257]

​@@cern1999sb with my personal experience using this road a lot, people usually follow the rules here because it is quite easy (and the signs are clear)

[@KevBrawner]

The yellow hash lines. Aren't you never supposed to drive on them, so it shouldn't matter what direction the hashing is.

[@darrylelam256]

Those 'etched lines' are called rumble stripes. And as the name implies it's causes your car to 'rumble' when you drive over them. So they actually are in the right direction.

[@gunsakimbo-z2u]

the lanes in the first clip are usually called "collectors" and "express" the two middle are express and there's no exits off the highway the two outside lanes are called collectors and they have the exits.

[@Odiethejeep]

I drive Vancouver all the time. The reason the bridge has separated lanes is for people going thru and those that want to take off ramps. Speeds up traffic

[@its_uncle_carl3898]

The hash lines at at 18:13 are to mark the gore zone. The lines are just to highlight the area, not necessarily the flow of traffic in the area. Double yellow lines are to highlight "no crossing" so it doesnt matter the direction the lines go.

[@jesselayng7226]

As someone who drives by the port mann bridge every morning, I can tell you it doesn't work. It's one of the biggest parking lots you have ever seen. You would be lucky if you were going 10km when you get off of it. Luckily I get off on the right and don't need to worry about that traffic.

[@RainHeart257]

I'm from Madrid and this roundabout is not that difficult. The most right lines are for do the roundabout or to go to the right road. To continue straight, you have to use the 2 left lines. There are more horrible things in Madrid, for example, the Atocha roundabout: 40.407390,-3.688885 If you want to go to the tunnel from this road, you can die

[@Malaphor2501]

8:00 Look at the markings on the street from tires and you can clearly see that the bottom 2 lanes of Toledo are intended for people coming off of Glorieta. If you in the bottom 2 lanes of Valencia, then you just keep going straight on Valencia. If you wanted to turn right, well then you're in the wrong lane.

[@vidyasagarronanki2076]

My boss designed that Port Mann bridge!!

[@erezharnik5805]

Port Man bridge doesn't deserve that high a score when every winter there are ice bombs from the cables

[@dkman9461]

I take it you say this from personal experience...? lol

[@quiksilvermanblue]

15:34: Michigan has much stricter axle weight laws than most US states. So in order to move heavier cargo the semi's require many more axles.

[@seymour47]

That middle set of lanes in the Miami review was probably a set of HOV (high occupancy vehicle) lanes or express lanes. Probably both.

[@spencerross8699]

Express lanes to connect you from one end of the mess to the other. Sad part is, they are hardly faster. And if someone wrecks.... you are screwed exponentially more than having stayed on the main road.

[@webbiess6]

The first interchange is actually what got me into city skylines, road design, and traffic management. The port mann bridge and the cape horn interchange would marvel me, as I grew up in a small city where we didnt have highway interchanges of that scale. The amount of roads everywhere, I always wondered how one navigated the interchange (as we only ever drove straight through).

[@Emster234]

Regarding the Portage Bridge Lift/Yooper loop, the grooves in the road are for when the roads are too snowy and you cant see the lanes. They create a vibration when you drive over them and alert the driver to get back over in the correct spot. Houghton receives over 200 inches of snow a year. Our winters are brutal up here, one of the many things we pride ourseleves over. Definitely dont appreciate being called morons. Another thing, the yooper loop cant simply "just be a round a bout" because it is very hilly. The town is literally carved into the side of a hill. Youre talking about moving TONS of earth for a system that works just fine as it is. You are also missing another road that people turn into from the bridge, another complication in creating the round a bout. Its super efficent (yes, even with those stop signs, welcome to michigan), if you look closer, you can see where the old train bridge was and the old road before the yooper loop. The old road is offset to the new bridge towards the south, everything was pushed over in order to fit the lift bridge where it is now. Hence, the yooper loop was born.

[@WulfRanger]

Highway 62 just north of Jeffersonville Indiana, intersection of I 265, we have what they have the audacity to call a roundabout 😅

[@adamt195]

its not a roundabout, its a dumbbell

[@brentonburkeen5380]

Haa

[@WulfRanger]

@@adamt195 That also describes whomever thought it was a good idea

[@VestleKS]

Where the lift bridge is, the hatching is raised and let's people know when they go off the road... Also the lines are yellow which means you shouldn't drive over them. Also those straight lines are rumble strips to make the driver aware they are driving off road.

[@ashrowan2143]

Vancouver is a HELL of a port city so much commece comes in and out of that city by basically every means imaginable

[@v1buster561]

That train yard under the bridge is where the trains are organized and built before the head out eastwards across the country. That particular yard is with Canadian National railway, I've personally worked on the track approaching the yard, it is incredibly busy, a train goes down the track roughly every 45 minutes, with each train being up to 2 miles long. There should be another set of tracks somewhere nearby that should be similar with traffic, those belong to the other major railroad, Canadian Pacific.

[@paultauriainen]

I actually go over the first interchange every week in real life. Also the Port Mann Bridge got a 7.9/10 in Bridge Review!

[@mkaleborn]

Vancouver’s new Portman bridge let’s go! It’s a mess, but miles better than the old Portman. I worked in the office with the engineers who designed that mess. Good folks, young and full of dreams and ambitions. And I guess it shows…

[@3riccar10]

matt!!! you went FULL architect mate lol! 8:42. its simple left 2 lanes is straight and 3rd lane is straight or exit. the left 2 lanes cant crossover until after the crossing is completed.

[@rebeccasaper1379]

Ngl I never knew the direction of hatching mattered. I always just thought “oo yellow line blob means no drive.” Granted I don’t drive much, so that information just goes towards me crossing the street near an intersection Crossy Road style by hopping between those zones

[@Yooper7925]

19:25 as someone who drives in this area, there's snow for 9 months of the year. So the lines don't matter lol. There isn't much room for a roundabout there either, in my opinion.

[@Shoe_Horn]

Honestly, your best work happens when you're on a craze about something or other, man. Lean into this energy more often. You'll have more fun, and it's the vibe that brings the patrons to the yard anyways. I can hear the difference through the phone when you've gotten completely lost while absolutely loving the thing you're doing. TL;DR That one guy who keeps telling you to do whatever you want is wise and correct.

[@AlexKasper]

The first interchange is around Portmann Bridge in Vancouver area, in BC, Canada. I worked on that project more than 10 years ago Let me tell you. It used to be much worse before.

[@krapfam11]

Ah the famous Houghton Loop (Yooper Loop)

[@NaniMoose]

If you do another Google Street View review, you gotta check out Modesto, CA. It's your typical American grid-layout city, but for some reason, the downtown area is rotated by 45 degrees from the rest of the grid. The roads don't line up at all, it's like someone just cut it out and rotated it and pasted it back in. I've driven down one of the roads that borders the two sections, and you do really have two entirely different systems of roads to your left and to your right. It's chaos.

[@bobdolesrevenge]

Hi, American here! Those "hatch lines" by the bridge in Michigan aren't actually hatch lines, at least not like in Britain. Those are officially called "singing medians," though most people refer to them as "rumble strips" in the US. They are grooves cut into the concrete and when a car drives over them they create a loud deep rumble, indicating that the driver has moved too far outside their lane. They are common along the sides of interstates and other highways as well as some potentially dangerous intersections like that one.

[@TimeKitt]

8:00 Looks to me the extra lanes going through are to fill while waiting for a light because once it backs up into the roundabout you have instant gridlock. Traffic may be portioned by alternating with the previous light I'm guessing to lower chances of that. They may have designed for a round-about initially, but the through road ended up being too dense traffic for it. 16:30 Think those trees there are intentional, its blocking view of the merging area, there might be extra confusion if you were seeing that and trying to guess what lane cars are going in where you have enough time to cross anyways.

[@MM-yj7yt]

The last one looks like an average OpenTTD interchange (would be fun to see Matt spaghettifying some railways in this game). It was a really cool to watch you review these feats of traffic engineering, and looking forward for more.

[@BradTrapp]

"you could just drive straight thru without crossing a line." As his mouse passes over the boarder line.

[@DaxonJones]

Matt zooming in on my morning commute on the first interchange was not what I was expecting when I opened this video today! Haha 🤣 epic!

[@DaxonJones]

Then rated my favourite bridge 🥹 Christmas came early!!

[@Tall_dark_and_handsome]

Hey RCE! I said this in one of your other videos but you should try and build the fort Pitt/Duquesne bridges with the fort Pitt tunnel in Pittsburgh. It's 2 double deck bridges with 4 lanes in each direction with merging and diverging that only has the length of the bridge to get into the lane you need. It's gloriously chaotic

[@dearnoss3228]

Was going to comment this but had to check if anyone already mentioned it. RCE should atleast check it out. for people who fly into Pittsburgh its their first view of the city. you go into a tunnel where you don't see much going on and when you come out of it youre hit with a great view of the city. however if youre the one driving i hope you buckled up because its time to decide which lane you need because you gotta make that decision fast.

[@ambsquared]

The grid building thing oriented N/S and E/W is from how the US divided the territories in the expansion west. They divided everything into 1 mile squares, and then subdivided into halves and quarters. Roads were put in on the area divisions until a geographic feature blocked things. In Detroit the infamous 8 Mile Rd. from Eminem is the East/West road that is on the 8th mile division north and is the border of the City of Detroit. In the oldest towns in the original 13 colonies, road sprung up on animal trails and follow the geography more than trying to fit a grid. Farm land was also divided that way, and you see rural county roads following the mile lines in a lot of places. They put the roads on the edge of their land because they didn’t want to create a right of way through the middle of their fields. In a lot of cities it is really hard to cross diagonally since the roads are mostly set up along the grid.

[@HMMarcon]

The cross-over I didn't know I wanted: RCE and NotJustBikes !! Just the two of them discussing road design and simulating them in games that only consider car-dependent city design

[@LowWageTeacher]

Wasn't expecting a bridge review of the Port Mann Bridge in an RCE video, its a bridge that I cross quite often for my commute.

[@NathanaelNewton]

I mean.. for the first one there in BC in Canada, That's probably one of the biggest things of its type anywhere in the country.

[@FswithFarham]

Holy shit you do the Never Eat Shredded Wheat thing too. I thought I was the only one...

[@jordan7dinodude]

So funny to see the Port Mann, a bridge I cross so often! I'd love to see you tackle possible future plans for Maple Ridge in a realistic recreation on Cities Skylines, which is in a super difficult spot to mitigate bottlenecks in the BC Lower Mainland. Love the channel!!

[@user-xw1lh7zt7n]

Was told by a US HIghway guy at one time they use wide curves for the same reason railroads did... so you're not losing speed or having quick changes

[@cybernescens]

I know this is not your normal thing, but I have enjoyed this video more than most on your channel and I enjoy all your videos. Absolutely lovely.

[@charlietheunicorn5383]

@RCE, If you want a fun time, review the Portland Oregon USA Interstate 5 "Interstate Bridge" built in February 14, 1917. 45°37′05″N 122°40′31″W. Not only do you have a decaying bridge, but you have a multitude of on and off ramps over 2 or 3 miles. Pillars in between driving lanes... and poor signage. It was built when vehicles were smaller... and when you have to share the road with a truck (lorre) it can be rather tight. Somewhere between 120-150k vehicles use it a day now. It is scheduled to be replaced for a mere 5-10B dollars in the "near" future. Cheers!

[@rightsright]

5:00 This requires a degree higher than engineering.

[@byrdurbex]

3:26 fun fact! cable-stay bridges are my personal favourite! whenever i go through Waco on my way to Austin i always go over a cable-stay bridge on the loop, and thats my favourite part of the drive haha

[@skatingbi]

As an american its true that we love stop signs. Four way stop? stop sign. Roundabout? Stop sign (mostly a yield tho). Any road can have a stop sign and the options are endless. Who needs decent traffic flow when u can just place down a ton of stop signs and call it a day 💪🏽

[@RollingThunder2020]

When the first interchange is in your home city and you realize you never once thought it was all that confusing....