Our first video of 2023 and we hope you enjoy it! We are busy getting the final details around the lab and range completed so we can get back to normal operations. We also have to get ready for SHOT show and IWA this year so we are doing our best to get filming done in between preparations for travel and also some testing we are doing for private contracts. We are getting back into shorts as YT supposedly fixed the algorithm for them. WE have a lot of fun ideas, too short for long videos, that we hope will do well in short video format. Stay tuned!
@Mrheeheefish Жыл бұрын
Hello friend I did enjoy the video and I hope your work and videos go well
@dr.jamesdenton3051 Жыл бұрын
Hey ukra-nazi supporter, if RF tanks are in short supply, then why are the ukrops begging every country to send them more tanks and vehicles? And if it's RF that is losing soldiers at a higher rate, why is it then that it is the ukrops that are having their 5th mobilization, whereas RF only had 1 partial mobilization? Looking forward to seeing you on the 2 way range.
@robbierantig Жыл бұрын
ahh, IWA, so close (living in Austria) yet so far (not qualified to visit). You don't need a self-sponsored tag-along for one day? I know you don't need a german translator though.. :-)
@quickdiy8127 Жыл бұрын
got a link to that copper filament?
@Sion_Revan Жыл бұрын
We the fans understand all good things take time, especially after all the unfortunate business and massive set back you guys suffered, good to see that you are getting back to business as usual as well your commitment to quality over quantity content. Can't wait to see what you have planned.
@jlambuth Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the delay! It's just non-stop issues here. The house we were planning on living in still isn't done. So we are still camping and trying to film at the ranch. Once the house is up, we can finally get back to some regularity.
@boltvanderhuge4858 Жыл бұрын
I only come on KZbin for watching particular content. Your channel is one of the few channels I actually look forward to viewing. Thank you for your efforts.
@ngcf4238 Жыл бұрын
hey jake, you might want to hide your publically viewable subscribed channel to that cannabis channel. ATF probably wouldn't like that. Just watching out for ya.
@jlambuth Жыл бұрын
@Nick G I debated on that. I actually co-own a federally legal hemp business. This was disclosed to the ATF. They only are concerned if we start trying to move meth or nose candy. Lol
@JoeSkylynx Жыл бұрын
Hopefully things start getting better for you lads in 2023.
@jlambuth Жыл бұрын
@@JoeSkylynx thinking positive thoughts!
@nightwebmc Жыл бұрын
That copper filament was really a game changer.
@markfergerson2145 Жыл бұрын
It sure was. I think it was best not to go ahead and heat sinter it. Unless done in a form or on a mandrel the printed item can sag or otherwise lose symmetry.
@cybyrd9615 Жыл бұрын
@@markfergerson2145 print with ceramic sinter the ceramic, and use that for support.
@dwwolf4636 Жыл бұрын
Is it ? Press forming is one of the easier forming operations.
@Tunkkis8 ай бұрын
@@dwwolf4636 Can you do that on a 100-200 € machine which has a footprint of less than 0,5 m²?
@gvii Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely amazing what the copper filament was able to do. Especially since it is cheap(Relatively speaking anyway.) and can be burped out of a cheapo printer in very short order, and it's really easy/inexpensive to tweak the design. That really is fantastic and super interesting.
@drosendahl Жыл бұрын
If you have the tools, the last option is both a lot cheaper and faster then 3d-print. But it was cool that it worked.
@excitedbox5705 Жыл бұрын
not cheap, not available, not easy to produce compared to taking a piece of pipe section slicing it and rolling it flat and hammering/pressing it into a cone shape. 3D printing is slow, the filament is expensive, and you might not always have a 3D printer or electricity to print the cones.
@gvii Жыл бұрын
@@excitedbox5705 Alrighty then. You do you, bud.
@thomasschulz2167 Жыл бұрын
@@excitedbox5705 $26 dollars US per Kilo, assuming the cone is 4in wide by 3-4in tall 2mm thick at 50g a shot, a reasonably tuned 3d printer can knock out 4 in about 30-45 min. For war time manufacture yeah that's shit, but for testing geometries for penetration ability … that's what rapid prototyping (i.e. 3d Printing) is built for. Once the shape has been finalized, print off a mold for casting in aluminum, and injection mold the plastic and copper suckers. Drives the cost through the floor and produces hundreds of thousands per hour at a proper factory, or hundreds a day using a home brew injection molder and any sufficient heat source. All that's left is explosives and delivery.
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
@@thomasschulz2167 I totally agree that 3D printing shouldn't be used for mass production but it's perfect for testing different geometries. The output should be pretty well reproducible compared to most manual manufacturing methods and you could easily try stuff like having different wall thickness for different parts of the geometry.
@RicArmstrong Жыл бұрын
1:58 "Plastic in the front, copper in the back" Sounds like the explosive version of a mullet. 😅
@jcims Жыл бұрын
One of the cool things about the 3-D printed liner is that you could trivially tinker with different liner geometry including parabolas, conic sections, variable cross-sectional and radial thickness. Would be interesting to see what happens if you mounted a small tungsten pellet at the base or out front of the liner. I’m guessing there are all sorts of research papers available on liner development.
@evansoutdoors4022 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen EFP’s that have indents on them (like mk2 grenades) so the EFP turn to many small pieces of shrapnel instead of a big piece of shrapnel
@evansoutdoors4022 Жыл бұрын
In Minecraft of course 😂
@Tunkkis Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Science Madness forum has a whole section dedicated to energetics, and a host of threads dedicated shaped charges.
@markfergerson2145 Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket While a lot of this and similarly imilarly military applicable stuff is heavily classified, there's more in the public domain than most people seem to think, especially in brick and mortar libraries. Remember the guy who got a visit from the FBI for writing a science fiction story about nuclear bombs in the 1940s; his fictional design (which was not what the government had built but would have worked) was based on what was in the public domain at the time.
@WeebRemover4500 Жыл бұрын
@@evansoutdoors4022 you dont know what EFP means.
@nooblangpoo Жыл бұрын
I think the 3D printed copper one allows you to do weirder and more varied layer thickness on the liner. So I highly suggest in testing more experimental prints with the 3D printed copper liner. Edit, adding in 3D printed Wave Shapers like in the M380A1 HEAT round or a much more pronounced and variable-thickness cone should add more penetration.
@likestohunt758 Жыл бұрын
Best content creators on youtube!
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Glad you appreciate the work!
@Genuinespaceman Жыл бұрын
@@OrdnanceLab this reminds me of the HEAT shells on tanks
@dwastart Жыл бұрын
So glad you guys are here and still on YT. Your content makes my day
@Dsdcain Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Educational while being entertaining isn't easy to pull off, but once again you guys succeeded in spectacular fashion. Loved the way each explosion sounded better and better. Thanks for the new video. Be safe out there, and take it easy.
@ramunesoda73395 Жыл бұрын
have you experimented with linear shaped charges?
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
We have! We are going to do a video on that comparing commercial liners and our own ones. Especially now that we have the lab up and running.
@fallu6224 Жыл бұрын
Finally! Have been waiting for this video for forever.
@philipstowers4741 Жыл бұрын
Impressed that the copper liner was discussed. Most "shaped charge" you tube videos just kinda' leave the whole copper cone/penetrator out of the picture..
@Mr.FraggOut Жыл бұрын
You guys should try to make some explosive reactive armor to complement the shaped charge series.
@alaric_ Жыл бұрын
One important thing to note: majority of the russian light IFV/APC used for troop transports use aluminium. The fronts use sloped armour but sides and the top extremely easy to penetrate with practically any shaped charge. Aluminium is light and easy to deform, it's mainly used against light shrapnel. Perhaps in the next tests, try the "least performing" charges against aluminium blocks and better performing with angled steel to see how they perform against them.
@kaboom4679 Жыл бұрын
Very good proofs of concept . Be interesting to see what kind of consistent performance is achievable under less than ideal manufacturing conditions .
@dwwolf4636 Жыл бұрын
Next objective : 3d print a plastic explosive lens and support structure to improve overall performance.
@jakeaurod Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what sort of effect you might get from winding copper wire around a conic form. Would some gauges be better than others? Would the pressure and heat of the explosion weld them into a liner or blow them apart? Would it help to bind them with glue or solder or some other sort of binder? Would a composite liner help? How about multiple layers of copper sheet wrapped around a cone and cut to fit? I just wonder what would be easier to make expediently if one did not have a 3D printer.
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Oooh this is a very good topic to test.
@acorgiwithacrown467 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that would work, the copper wire wouldn't deform evenly enough to form a concentric cone
@mfree80286 Жыл бұрын
@@acorgiwithacrown467 I think it would work with a small penalty, just like the PLA/Cu print here did. 58mm pen versus 45mm pen may be down to 90% fill with homogenous 10% 'dead space' in the cone material and a little more loss due to overall density and maybe a need to change the cone angle due to that. PLA/CU also gives the opportunity to rapidly test iterations on cone angle, wall thickness and variations of wall thickness, maybe even formulaic solutions (lens curves on algebraic formulas to better take advantage of pressure/time curves for what's really an unenclosed explosive with these light printed containers).
@wileymarm0t Жыл бұрын
Wow! Amazing what you could 3d print. Great disclaimer about having all the correct papers on the wall. Keep up the great videos
@gillly11111 Жыл бұрын
Excellent footage guys!
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Thanks my man!
@juangonzalez9848 Жыл бұрын
3:28 Ear pro only works when it’s actually over your ears.
@myfavoritemartian1 Жыл бұрын
Your fans understand and have nothing but best wishes for all of you! It seems that the more you can delay the charge wave front, the more power hits the surface. Full piece copper shaped cone.
@Tomartyr Жыл бұрын
whoops probably shouldn't have clicked the video with 'revolutionary' and 'shaped charges' in the title. Dear SWAT: I will be waiting on my knees with my hands on my head and my dog is tied up 🥺
@robertvierra9917 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see these test EFP's scaled up to 84-90 mm, that size would put it in range of the AT 4 warhead. Imagine that with 3D printed cone and casing. Make the cone from copper and the charge sleeve from pla or some other polymer.
@agentvx8320 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. This one ought to really generate some calls to the RCMP.
@johnladuke6475 Жыл бұрын
I keep them on speed dial for when a new video posts.
@boltonky Жыл бұрын
Think the best thing is this video is for "Educational purposes", As an engineer i love stuff like this and the possibilities it allows. As a human i worry about the other humans whos vision is slightly blurry haha. Keep it up and development is the only way to take lives when needed and save lots of others.
@sandmanbub Жыл бұрын
Try casting the copper liner. It'll be brittle, but hard to deform and might work well.
@It-b-Blair Жыл бұрын
Copper is easily annealed. A few hours in an oven and it’d be soft again. I’d be curious to see of the softness effects the penetrating
@Wanderingpyro10 ай бұрын
I used to work down the street from Raytheon. That place is like a fortress you can't get anywhere near that place without clearance. My mother's brother worked there in the early 80s. He developed guidance chips and other military weapons. He died from a strange form of cancer due to radiation exposure. HMMMMM 🧐
@paulie120284 Жыл бұрын
Super cool. Love the fun, science based approach to your guys videos!
@experrimentosconzipi1875 Жыл бұрын
You know it is gonna be good when the word 3D is in the title. Greetings from Spain. :D
@christopherleubner6633 Жыл бұрын
Make one out of tantalum. That has malleability similar to copper but a much higher melting point. 3D printed explosives is a very neat idea, as it could make precision shock wave shapes similar to machined charges but far safer to manufacture. 🤓
@Georgewilliamherbert Жыл бұрын
There’s no 3D printer tech for tantalum as far as I know, you can’t DMLS it. Maybe one of the binder print then sinter methods, but it’s higher temperature pressure required than other metals even inconel…
@NvrchFotia Жыл бұрын
What is the advantage of tantalum over copper? The liner doesn't melt anyway.
@christopherleubner6633 Жыл бұрын
Tantalum has a much higher melting point, has a higher density and is very ductile. It can form a higher density and higher energy projectile. Copper is fine for most uses though tantalum will go through stuff that copper will not.
@DJTheMetalheadMercenary Жыл бұрын
Outstanding!!!!
@jeffjefferson2676 Жыл бұрын
You could use fluid 3D printing for castable burn out resin for vacuum casting. "VOGman" and "Clear Mind Jewellery" have examples of casted jewelry. Now if you would use that technique of vacuum casting. You could cast perfectly shaped copper shaped charge projectiles. Greetings, Jeff
@jochensteinkopf3816 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video guys👍But think about using molybdenum as a liner material. There is a reason why the K-charge of General dynamics exists also with Mo-liner. There is a reason why companies like HC starck solution and Plansee manufacture Mo-liners. Not to mention that in 2007 ruag achieved penetration depths with molybdenum liners that were over 10 times deeper than the diameter of the charge.
@tissuepaper9962 Жыл бұрын
Why go for 10x penetration when he can just print ten charges a lot cheaper? I know they don't add linearly, but it's not really relevant to my point. The entire purpose of this design is that it's extremely rapid and very cheap to produce compared to a more traditional shaped charge.
@johnladuke6475 Жыл бұрын
That cost analysis is probably why _all_ shaped charges don't use molybdenum. Copper's not exactly cheap, but it's not quite so rare and expensive.
@adelinyoungmark1929 Жыл бұрын
the interesting thing about copper cones is that not only can you 3d print them, but you can also make the electrolytically. basically you have your copper plating solution and a metal cone with some graphite paint (so the copper releases and still has good conductivity, silver paint works too) and you can make copper cones of any thickness depending on the time left in the plating solution.
@deathtdow Жыл бұрын
Faster and easier to make a sand mold using a plastic 3d printed shape, then cast said shape.
@murlock666 Жыл бұрын
Gemini really is a great relaible consistent explosive, to my untrained eye at least, all those blasts were very similar in audio and appearance. Its a great explosive for this job as it almost removes a variable from the real sciencey stuff, like the way the penetrator develops according to shape and stand off required. Great work and, Fascinating stuff as always!!!
@MeChute Жыл бұрын
What exactly is Gemini? I can't find anything online, but from the results that do come up I assume it's another name for binary explosives in general?
@axiondarion4899 Жыл бұрын
I read everywhere that a RPG and other anti tank weapons can penetrate 900mm of steel or even more, i know it use more explosives and a bigger cone but it would be nice to see you test that. But awesome first vid of 2023.
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Jake has the reactor up so we can now produce other explosives in 10 or more kilogram batches. So recreating an RPG with a clone correct warhead to test performance is now doable.
@axiondarion4899 Жыл бұрын
@@OrdnanceLab Would be so awesome to see. Love all ur vids. Nothing more beautiful than explosves.
@PilotTed Жыл бұрын
For armor reference, most tanks in WWII and even modern day uses Rolled homogenous armor (RHA) for its steel armor (MBTs will have a mix of RHA, composites, heavy metals, and other materials in some areas that need the most protection like the front of the hull and the front of the turret, while the rest is typically just plane old RHA, though there could be composite screening, NERA, or ERA slapped on top to help defend against chemical and kinetic rounds in those areas.). I would say, the average side armor of a tank in WWII was between 30-50mm of RHA, while the front was typically thicker. The 3d printed copper would have gone through the side of many German tanks (All their light and medium tanks except Panther G and F), and the top of pretty much all of them. It could go through the top of pretty much every other tank in the war as well, and through the lower side plate behind the tracks of the Sherman. As for modern vehicles, this could easy go through a Bradley or BMP hull in many areas, and would do so against the BMP far easier as that has even less armor than the BMP, with most areas being less than 20mm thick, meaning it can be penned by .50 cal. For the Bradley, Im pretty sure it can go through the engine deck, the sides, and the rear, not sure about the front. The thing about MBTs though, is their armor is fairly classified, so maybe their top armor has some protective layer no one knows about that helps against these weaker shaped charge rounds, but based on what we know, most MBT's top armor is around 40mm thick for Nato, and slightly thicker for Russia and China I believe. I could be wrong.
@PilotTed Жыл бұрын
The shaped copper cone one with over 50mm of pen though, thats insane! FOr a home made shaped charge, that can go through most modern armor vehicles and tanks from the top, and many from the rear and side. Even some from the front. If you put a impact fuse and set em on a drone, this would be insane to drop onto an unsuspecting vehicle, and could mission kill it if you aimed for the engine or turret.
@lukebaehr3851 Жыл бұрын
@unexpectedspanishinquisiti3967 These guys actually did a video in the past explaining that using a drone to deploy explosives enters a whole other realm of the law (FAA), which is why they've never deployed munitions from drones...such a bummer; wish they could get creative with drones.
@PilotTed Жыл бұрын
@lukebaehr3851 Oh, I know, I wasn't saying they should do it. I'm just saying if someone does it against actusly tanks, these homemade shaped charges could prove very effective. They probably cost around $100 a piece, and it only takes maybe 2 on the engine deck to mission kill a modern MBT, which costs tens of millions of dollars.
@lukebaehr3851 Жыл бұрын
@unexpectedspanishinquisiti3967 right! Far far cheaper than conventional munitions paid for by the taxpayers. What's the cost of a single replcement Javelin or Tow Missle? They are probably many 10s of thousands per unit, if not more. Not to mention the platform they're deployed from.
@PilotTed Жыл бұрын
@lukebaehr3851 the javelin and tow launchers themselves are reusable, as the missile is pre loaded into the launcher tube, which can be discarded once fired, ans a new one placed on the launcher platform.
@shoesbutsockless Жыл бұрын
3D printed + Explosive in the title. You guys are brave.
@wombatburrito5896 Жыл бұрын
Living my dream brother. Gosh dang what a good time
@csjrogerson2377 Жыл бұрын
So a pressed copper cone wins. Just like the ones we have been using since the 1940's. Well done.
@boltvanderhuge4858 Жыл бұрын
Did Steve not get enough coffee before filming?
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Sean drank all his energy drinks
@DandSCreations Жыл бұрын
@@OrdnanceLab 😆
@qinarizonaful Жыл бұрын
Seems Steve is showing his human reaction to loss. My heart goes out to you, brother. It took me a year each to get over the loss of my mother and grandmother. They made me into the success I am today. I feel your loss. Time will help, but never heal one of life's greatest challenges! Kudos for all you guys do!!
@DandSCreations Жыл бұрын
@@qinarizonaful no, I'm just always muted. Dan lost his grandmother.
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
Crazy stuff! Shaped charges are wild...
@stevenwalsh3795 Жыл бұрын
Very cool testing on that! Copper Man Bunday and the material makes the difference! Excellent 👌 video
@monophonic_og Жыл бұрын
Any plans to test different standoff distances? I've been told the maximum penetration happens at somewhere around 6-7 charge diameters of standoff. You seem to use something like 1 to 1.5 diameters.
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Jake follows a formula for stand offs he refined for optimal distance. We can def do a video showing how different stand off distances affect penetration.
@kaitlinmain4289 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see y’all back in the New Year! 🎉
@tomhewitt8017 Жыл бұрын
How about using lead for a cone? Or even a segment testing different elements for the cones? Titanium, osmium, maybe tungsten? Might be fun
@acorgiwithacrown467 Жыл бұрын
I think with the more dense materials it would tend to shatter rather than form into a cone, tungsten in particular is not particularly malleable not to mention alot more expensive. Tantalum on the other hand sounds kind of ideal I doubt they haven't tested those materials before yet copper is still the go to for shaped charges.
@johnladuke6475 Жыл бұрын
Hardness and density are likely less important than melting and evaporation points as far as determining whether a material behaves properly, shatters, or does some other crazy thing. Density would likely play a role in how much penetration is achieved, but it's possible that counterintuitively, less dense materials end up performing better as they convert to plasma. I'd bet that regardless of actual performance, the main reason copper is used as a standard rather than more exotic metals is due to cost of procurement and machining. Tungsten might perform 10% better, but for the cost of a tungsten liner you could maybe just triple the thickness of copper and get the same effect.
@EthanD2452 Жыл бұрын
6:37 "Play it cool. It wasn't that much of a flinch...OH the camera was watching"
@giannamolinari3065 Жыл бұрын
This. Is. One. HECK of collab!
@brett76544 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of testing things on the demo range at Ft Hood. Got the range shut down twice and weight limits for the range reduced twice.
@talldave1000 Жыл бұрын
I'm always looking out for your videos. Keep making them and I'll keep watching
@bepis6049 Жыл бұрын
the art of get on a watchlist as quick as possible
@jeremycollins3408 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff thank for all you guys are doing 👍👍👍
@MarkHahn Жыл бұрын
Love the shape charge specials. Very cool MORE!
@victormartin2774 Жыл бұрын
You are able to turn potential chemical energy into harmless fun , I guess it's called explosive magic.
@NoiZexxtreme1 Жыл бұрын
Can the performance of the cone increased when you using cold hammered copper? i think its harder than normal copper.
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
That is a solid question worth testing
@joshuagibson2520 Жыл бұрын
According to the law of averages, you guys should be smooth sailing for at least the next 20 years.
@pyalot Жыл бұрын
You can 3D print in tungsten (powder bed laser melting process). Some online 3D print services offer this material (beamler for instance). Probably fairly expensive. Would be interesting to see how it compares to copper...
@EleaRevils Жыл бұрын
That wont do you any good. the reason copper is used is because it reaches a certain acceleration where it becomes liquid or hydrodynamic and ''FLOWS'' through the armour. Now if you would use that tungsten as a solid penetrator, that would be effective. but then you are not making a anti armor rocket, but now you are designing a tankround. These charges have been around since 1886. And they still use copper today because it yields the best results. for a ligth caryable weapon.
@pyalot Жыл бұрын
@@EleaRevilsHeating and melting does not play a significant role in the physics of shaped charges. The effect creates a high velocity jet of material that acts as a projectile. Because it is a very small cross section (needle-like) moving very fast, it achieves a lot of penetration. I can imagine that shaping a correspondingly thinner solid tungsten cone would be very difficult, and that perhaps the thoughness of tungsten does not lend itself for the cone to easily form a clean jet. However, laser sintered tungsten powder is very different than solid tungsten. Much like the glass or copper infused 3d printer filament, it might „pulverize“ and yield to the explosive charge to form a clean jet. Shaped charges traditionally use copper because it is dense, inexpensive, easy to work into shape and malleable enough to yield to the explosive force. But back then laser sintering did not exist…
@eane7238 Жыл бұрын
@@pyalot Nobody ever mentioned heat or melting except you.
@792slayer Жыл бұрын
I'm just glad to see you guys back.
@othelloperrello6604 Жыл бұрын
This is great, it could be used with a simple sling. Nice job.
@828enigma6 Жыл бұрын
You guys have more fun than normal people. And Allie isn't autistic. She's just having fun too.
@MyLonewolf25 Жыл бұрын
theres metal filled FDM filaments. i wonder how they would preform as a penetrator. or using say metal dust like the fine fine alu or iron dust you can buy sandwiched between two forms to act as a molded container to form the jet. ANYWAYS i love seeing any sort of EFP content! love to see more. id love to see a tandem charge head done with that 3d printed copper charge! two lenses would be insane!
@dwwolf4636 Жыл бұрын
90% copper filament was used for the 3rd liner. Metal powders have been used as a liner. Mainly for bore hole related shaped charges. Dont eant solids to clog up that expensive drill attempt.
@stefanmolnapor910 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you guys back!
@libertyrevolutionary1776 Жыл бұрын
yay! we're all on a list now!
@Vorthulusgaming Жыл бұрын
Damn. That part of "They're making rockets on my internet!" had me dieing.
@stetonwalters574 Жыл бұрын
Can we print it, yes we can.
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
It's literally impossible to say this line without using Bob the Builders voice.
@user-qf6yt3id3w Жыл бұрын
After a while you can hear if the shaped charge has penetrated just from the duller sound of the explosion. Presumably it's because you get better energy transfer or something.
@jeffreyyoung4104 Жыл бұрын
I have a general question about the ammonia nitrate used in instant cold packs, as I found mine have all soaked up water from the air, even tho the plastic package is without holes. Since they have been exposed to water, they don't work as cold packs now, but I want to save them for later, but how safe is the wet AN in a plastic container?
@andyd2960 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. The fact that the D3 printed copper wasn't sintered and still performed so well is a surprise to me. It makes me wonder about specific hardnesses and alloys of copper. With the printer you can play with the shape, as others have mentioned. So many small details can be tweaked for maximum efficiency.
@MasterThief117 Жыл бұрын
Those results absolutely blew me away (pun partially intended). I though there was *no way* that would ever work. Not only was I wrong, I was very wrong.
@thomasschulz2167 Жыл бұрын
The fact that it wasn't sintered doesn't really matter. The base material can be what ever you want it to be, but to get the molten metal jet that does the penetrating you need to have enough copper mixed into the lens to do the job and designed in such a way that the jet will contact the smallest area on the armor allowing it to burn it's way through. Similar to a plasma lance.
@andyd2960 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasschulz2167 makes sense. We used to make shape charges without any metal material. Lensing wasn't exactly the way we were trained to look at it.
@moosehead4497 Жыл бұрын
Had the same idea. Cool to see it executed
@jerrodbeck1799 Жыл бұрын
This is very educational. I hope KZbin doesn’t demonetize your channel.👌🏻 keep up the good work and stay safe👍🏻
@Tiagomottadmello Жыл бұрын
Real cool !! 👍🏻👍🏻
@MintLint1 Жыл бұрын
with the glass one would be able to add something to the glass like Kevlar fiber or carbon fiber or metal flake to help strengthen it?
@eugenef9021 Жыл бұрын
Please compare copper, aluminum, steel and tungsten cones. I have also heard that adding tungsten dust to explosives enhances its effect, check it out if possible.
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Jake is working on it
@eugenef9021 Жыл бұрын
@@OrdnanceLab thanks! try also various other metals, such as lead, and if possible fillers of aluminum powder to increase the temperature. also have an idea, plastic cone and tungsten powder filler
@fallu6224 Жыл бұрын
@@eugenef9021 I don't think anyone would want to test lead, especially with explosives. It adds too much mass to the front, and the flying of lead particles after an explosion or when handling it does our guys valuable brains no good.
@KevinSmith-yh6tl Жыл бұрын
Love this channel, so great to see another vid drop!
@PilotTed Жыл бұрын
Don't forget to call the Mounties! Jokes aside, this is pretty sick ngl. Maybe next time, we will see a homemade tandem shaped charge!
@bradleywhais7779 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m likely never gonna do any of this, so I am glad I can see you do it. ;)
@darkshadowsx5949 Жыл бұрын
only no fun grandmas that somehow figured out how to use the internet are going to call the FBI on you. everyone else enjoys the entertainment.
@Thegoofyairgunner Жыл бұрын
It’s so hard to comprehend that people still think y’all are posting some nefarious and illegal activities on KZbin and they are going to be the heroes that brings you down 😂😂😂 people are so concerned with what they have zero participation in. Y’all are awesome and keep doing the cool stuff
@johnladuke6475 Жыл бұрын
When I call the RCMP on these guys I'm telling them your name too!
@Thegoofyairgunner Жыл бұрын
@@johnladuke6475 not cool man! Not cool 😎
@Biketunerfy Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that magnesium is good but bronze cones or brass cones are just as good as pure annealed copper. You get significantly more penetration if the copper is annealed because it work hardens when it’s been formed into a cone and this slight bit of resistance can sap a little of the power of it turning inside out into a jet and also cracks can happen that let out hot gases which also effects penetration. It’s much better if you heat your copper up with a map gas torch first and dump it in some water to quench it. Not sure about printed cones though.
@Slowly_Going_Mad Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video as always. Best of luck.
@LowQuatsSquats7529 Жыл бұрын
Have you guys ever used brass instead of copper for the liner? it's a alloy of copper but it might have different properties when lensing.
@dj1NM3 Жыл бұрын
Very good "proof of concept", I'm surprised the layered plastic/copper liner (first sample) did so poorly and that the 3D-printed copper (third sample) did so well. A point of interest is that the smallest Panzerfaust (Klein) had roughly 3.5~4 times the explosive fill, so viewers expecting this tiny thing to do more than "scratch" tank armour was (perhaps) a bit too much.
@oceanbytez847 Жыл бұрын
RE factor matters more than the amount of filler, but i don't know much about the explosive they are using so i can't really say what i'd expect. It appears similar in performance to RDX that has a RE of 1.6, but who knows.
@67Endgame Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always interesting and entertaining. Curious; how far into the ground the explosive pressure is forcing your test media?
@theboreditamar2108 Жыл бұрын
its so cool and so scary at the same time
@trulyinfamous Жыл бұрын
I'd enjoy seeing a video on different thermites, particularly copper thermites as it reacts fast enough to be explosive when confined, and Thermate is the "military grade" variety of thermite. Thermites don't produce much gas so there's no possibility of them being anything but a generally weak low explosive, but they are still cool. I know other channels have already done extensive videos on thermites, but it's right up Oedanace Lab's alley. Codyslab had a video on copper thermite in a confined container but he had to take it down quite a while ago. Oh, and awesome video as always. Shaped charges still blow my mind.
@hansjohannsen6722 Жыл бұрын
Delightful. Thanks for sharing.
@nilsschenkel7149 Жыл бұрын
3D- printed copper liner: Check. 3D- printed rocket body: No problem. If you find a way to make an explosive filament, you could 3D- print the charge, as well.
@olejnik5165 Жыл бұрын
3:26 the way the right guys wears his helmet lmao
@napalmholocaust9093 Жыл бұрын
The Rpg7 has a focus ring made of plastic about an inch above the ignitor. You haven't mentioned it so I'll assume there isn't one. If its in other stuff you probably need it to be effective.
@nehorlavazapalka Жыл бұрын
It's completely f d up what they've done. They're using 3× less powerful explosive than they need and no wave shaper as you write. It's embarassing.
@tmartin3151 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see what you guys have coming down the pipe this year.
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Oh we have some fun projects planned!
@meanman6992 Жыл бұрын
Rockets! Where are the rockets!???
@OrdnanceLab Жыл бұрын
Next video. Jake is editing it.
@dougmate2378 Жыл бұрын
wow right down the road from me guys NB. Great work gents, love it everytime
@TheBic4 Жыл бұрын
What type of HE is used
@NZMASTEROFGAME Жыл бұрын
Wooohoooo new video!!!!!
@acorgiwithacrown467 Жыл бұрын
Why not just make a 3d printed form to press copper plate into a copper cone? Coppers pretty soft, you could just hammer the form together.
@deuscoromat742 Жыл бұрын
Better. Less complaining. Good start.
@cgrosbeck Жыл бұрын
What was the total weight on completed unit. One thing to consider is to vary the thickness and depth on the 3d printed coper cone, in order to get the proper liquefaction of the copper. Also there is the availability of 3d printed charge itself to increase the burn, think of solid rocket booster fuel shape.
@akibi2352 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU GUYS GREAT VIDEO
@ArchonLicht Жыл бұрын
What kind of filament did you use again? Copper what?
@saddlepiggy Жыл бұрын
Man if y’all can make charges like this I can’t imagine how good the ones in actual weapons are