Revopoint POP - Out 3D scanning its competitors

[@jcn115]

For shiny objects, we had this trick at the office when we were using a FARO arm scanner and made the part easier to scan. We took a spray can of athletes foot medicine and spray it over the part, this let a thin white layer in which the scanner was able to pick up the surface features with no problems. Sprayed layer cleans up easily

[@PaleoHuntr]

We use a fine layer of talc applied thinly with a makeup brush

[@Tarex_]

@@Biggus_Mickus there is also scanning spray which leaves no residue at all,it sticks for 5-10 minutes and evaporates traceless, fairly high cost but goes a long way

[@Shoopadawhoopa]

You can also use dry shampoo for hair. It leaves a thin white layer on top of the object which you can wash off with water. Or you can use baby powder, solve it in alcohol and use a pump sprayer for plants to apply it.

[@joshua_opel]

baby powder with rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle is cheap and works perfect too. alcohol dries quickly and the power blows off with duster easy.

[@berndwarnders]

we simply used tape...

[@BuddyCrotty]

The results from the statue scan are pretty amazing. Being able to portably scan large outdoor objects and then scale them down for 3d printing seems like a gamechanger.

[@Robothut]

This shows that scanners are coming along in both quality and price. Thank you for the review of the Revopoint.

[@Revopoint3D]

Hi Michael Thank you for your amazing review of our POP 3D scanner and for being such support to our brand#revopoint3d#. We are looking forward to more helpful and effective reviews of 3d scanning products from you in the future.

[@agepbiz]

Thank you for this review. I am actually a little bit more optimistic about my KS pledge now 🙂

[@pixelsafoison]

Why pledge mate - I get it, it is thanks to people like you that some cool products make it, but by the time they deliver something absolutely amazing could come out that blows this thing out of the water. Now I have question for my very own lil' theory: Do you have a "lot" of disposable income? Because so far I've figured it is roughly 30% "I want cheap because I can't afford much" and 70% "Me haz money, me sees cool toy, me wants, me spends"

[@The_Mimewar]

@@pixelsafoison Kickstarter is a fantastic racket. yep

[@blackwolfecc]

Pretty much what I had expected! I feel pretty confident continuing to back this. It’s not going to do everything I’d hoped it would, but it still does a lot of what I want to do. Thanks for the great review!!!

[@dmulkearns]

Thank you for the review, I had pretty much given up for now on a 3D scanner... this review makes me think maybe soon. Good one may hit the market, while they are met there yet it’s getting better.... keep up the great reviews

[@machooke4846]

I use some expensive industrial scanners at work. Get some spray on indicator, it's a white powder in a spray paint can and it makes things visible to the scanner that are difficult or impossible for scanners to see. It's normally used in conjunction with penetrating dye to check for cracks when testing parts, but it works great for 3D scanning and it just wipes off super easily.

[@erikcederb]

Even better, professional grade sublimating scan spray has dropped a lot in price the last few years with upcoming brands like aesub not charging an arm and a led like the big names in scanning used to, those will give you an even coating super easy and vanishes in a few hours without any permanent residue or damage to the surface.

[@w1ndexpfc]

YES! TY for reviewing this. I was very curious about this.

[@dougsteel7414]

About 20 years ago (really) a company came into my work to demo a set of tools, all of which seemed insane at the time. 1- a 3d scanner which worked by using a wand which was monitored by cameras. 2- a resin 3d printer, much like ones you get now but huge and slow 3- the missing part. They had a pen input to 3d studio, which was on an articulated arm, with which you could edit the object in 3d. It had movement resistance from 0-100% elasticity in the materials, you could actually poke holes in membranes, and with your eyes shut, you'd swear you were actually interacting with a real rubber surface. Someone make this, and I can finally get this whole set up I dreamed of for a grand rather than the £500k it was, and I will admire you as a true hero.

[@austinbeyak2422]

Thanks for reviewing this! I didnt know it even existed

[@Real28]

Wow, that scan outside looked amazing. Will keep an eye on this.

[@b3nny90]

im definitely keen on getting my hands on one of these. I am trying to replicate some old car parts that no longer exist including quite a few from the silvias etc. this may just be in the price range that gets me in the door as the kinect didn't quite work as well and requires far too much clean up to look remotely reasonable.

[@Christian-fx9ur]

You can buy mine. I tried using it a few times, but it's just above my pay grade right now and I don't have the passion to put the time into it.

[@d.i.yquickie2685]

still have the scanner? u in can or USA ?

[@avejst]

Interesting project I would love it had a LIDAR sensor too, so it would know the distance to the product. Thanks for sharing

[@SustainableCraig]

Great video. I'm looking forward to trying this myself. I'm gonna pop over to your mesh tutorial now.

[@DisgruntledPigumon]

Great review. I wish these developers would work on an adjustable focus scanner. One that could be set for miniatures and therefore have more detail in small sizes.

[@TKs3DPrints]

i have the pop i love it like you i have had many scanners over the years from laser to projected light and infra red and photogrammetry and i think this scanner in my view is one the best home scanners with accuracy of 0.3mm and now the new pop 2 is out with accuracy of 0.1mm is a game changer making the pop2 equal to my expensive scanners that cost 2 to 3 times more. thanks for the video. :)

[@fatcamel6304]

Give the tech another year or two and we will have real working 3d scanners that we can carry in our pocket. This tech in the vid is honestly quite impressive for the price point and I may get one myself.

[@SteveNilsen]

Nice review of this scanner. Seems there is a lot of things to be aware of regarding the limitations. Choosed to back up this project at kickstarter. It was the face scan that sold me. Quite detailed. Have tested a couple of high priced scanners before, with less results than this. Hope there will be a v2 with higher details from the same company.

[@krankengineering]

Phew, lucky this worked out, I backed it in the first week!

[@rcbodyshopfr]

Thank for this video far more informative than the ks one, test by real user is what I was waiting for. Entry level scanners begin to be very cool. My plan is to scan some of my old car model in big scale, so I can 3d design part that fit more easyly after printing.

[@GReadyPrints]

Just got one cant wait to use it thanks for sharing buddy 😎👍👍👍

[@dachamp-o3x]

Thank You for this review (and your other reports too). I also had the same experience with the xbox scanner, and the lidar-assisted scan with the iPad pro does not work properly either. That's why I supported the kickstarter campaign, which is interesting for price / performance, and now I'm excited to see what it can do. Professionally, I know very precise systems (GOM, Shine, etc.) - but hardware and software are priceless. It can already seen from the technical data that the revopoint does not work perfect for small, detailed figures. The high detail resolution of the SLA printers can only be provided e.g. by dental scanners. It would also be interesting whether larger objects or e.g. rooms / areas can be scanned with the revopoint. I also want to use it for vehicle interior scans - it's not easy because of the black surfaces. Have you tried shading (like camera lens hoods) on the Revopoint during the outdoor scan?

[@TeachingTech]

The thought crossed my mind but I have yet to try it.

[@bigbmessiah]

Good to see a review on this which really sets expectations....its good, but not great. Yes its only "$300" ... which is "$450+" if you live in AU, but when you buy an item like this you usually have something in your mind to use it for. This kind of review sets the expectations, yes i can scan i large statue or a pot plant.....but If i wanted to scan a mini to copy it, then no dice. As I tried to make the point in a review on another channel, the "needing to to a bit of work to clean it up" doesn't really cut it for most people, as to be honest with something like a mini figure , if you had the skills to reapply the detail the scanner missed, you could really just model it yourself. Same goes for scanning peoples heads....yes it gets the face really well, but unless you have a bald head or crewcut, you will need to remodel to get a full head out of it

[@TravisBrown42]

Honestly. The last project I backed on KS was at least 3 years ago. I typically avoid KS projects with relatively low funding goals because they tend to be the ones that fail (hello Peachy Printer) or wind up being through underwhelming on delivery. Thanks for this video as I trust your test far more than the KS marketing.

[@benheynen2705]

Looking forward to trying mine when it is all done. It would be great if you tried some of the white developer spray on some of the partly shiny objects like the resin print. It might bring up the detail significantly.

[@Levibetz]

I've been curious about this thing! I'd love to see it tried out on some car-scale things. Like could you scan a fender or a whole car to for example design a body kit? Or could you scan a wheel well to measure suspension mounting points?

[@DingDongDrift]

can you try scanning an entire car? revopoint has a showcase video but it seemed like a bunch of the panels of the car didn't line up.

[@AndrewAHayes]

I haven't seen a budget scanner that can beat a cellphone and free photogrammetry software yet!

[@LostCloudx4]

haven't seen any android scanners that work yet lol

[@pixelsafoison]

Gotta say it's pretty stunning on iOS (my sister loves apple products so I had her install a few apps during xmas and wow) - but on android we dont get shit. I guess it would be hard for a dedicated team to come up with something that works and that can be sold on such a wide variety of devices with varying processing power, resolution, optics, whether or not they can do stereo etc etc.... Sad thing. I'm about to spend 150€ on a simple face scan all in the name of designing my own perfectly fitting covid mask with tons of useless features .... That and getting the perfect fit next h'ween :3

[@mikelabruna9976]

You should Look at Intel Realsense, this Sensor seems to be a 415 or the new 5xx... Intel has an Open source SDK, I have no Idea how to code...there are a few Android Apps using those Scanners, but you need to have USB 3.1 OTG Smartphone, which I lack, so No testing at the moment and my Main computer ist a Mac, so hard dir me to get that SDK running

[@JeffBradway]

I've been pretty happy with my results from photogrammety using my smartphone and Meshroom. As long as you do a bit of prep to get some trackable features in your scan area you can get really detailed models effectively for free. (Assuming you already have a decent camera and PC with NVIDIA cuda cores.) It does take a ton of PC time to process all the pics though.

[@3DJapan]

Since it connects to a phone I'm assuming an nVidia card is not required. I have 2 high end scanners, one I'm reviewing for KZbin right now and both require either an nVidia card or a lot of video ram. My laptop has neither so any scanning I do is limited to how far the cord can reach from my desktop.

[@jothain]

Close, but no cigar. However it looks like these are good enough to get within about two years.

[@Celticlo]

To easily measure size difference from scan to print, place original piece in a glass and fill upto a mark near the top, then swap models to see if it has more or less volume

[@Marco-yk8kp]

3d prints soak up water, this could work but only on resin prints

[@Celticlo]

@@Marco-yk8kp then place it inside a plastic bag.

[@baddan]

excellent review

[@Joe_Galaska]

Photos don't lie - TT is truly the Hulk and wants to take on Vegas as a new man on the Blue Man Group.

[@KMLifeadventure]

Would it turn out better if you put a black background behind the object?

[@firworks]

I'm blown away by that statue scan at the end. The performance of this thing is really impressive. I wish you'd shown the color scan ability but I can get why you wouldn't being predominantly a 3D printing focused channel. At 269 with any confidence at all in the company that's an instaback but only more expensive tiers are left. Also are these guys the OEM for the Creality CR-T you mentioned? They sell the exact same scanner as the Tanso S1.

[@runcycleskixc]

i wonder if they can sell fluorescent powder/dyes that one could use to coat small objects and improve the contrast and resolution

[@NiMareQ]

4:33 Why does this Creality 3D Scanner look exactly like Revopoint Tanso, the same company that created Pop you are reviewing here and Pop 2 which is currently on KS?

[@smithdoesstuff]

Wow, this looks like one of the biggest jumps in scan quality. I’ll have to consider the KS, though I’m not sure (yet) what I would use it for.

[@Christian-fx9ur]

You want to buy mine?

[@OlivierSuire]

Great review. I wish you had tried an even larger object to see what the actual limit is.

[@karlis-blums]

can you get exact measurements of scanned object?

[@ddegn]

Have you tried the method suggested in Prusa's video *Photogrammetry - 3D scan with just your phone/camera?* It would be interesting to see how it compares with the Revopoint POP

[@groundzero_-lm4md]

Photogrammetry from what I see has more trouble with glossy surfaces. However being that most people have a mobile phone already, it is a great free option.

[@TeachingTech]

I've only tried Photogrammetry a long while back, not any of the newer methods from the Prusa video. I will get them a try at some point.

[@ddegn]

@@TeachingTech Fantastic. It would be great if you shared a video of your efforts. Thanks for all the fun and interesting videos.

[@nathandrel]

I am curious if you can scan a reflective object like a car, as this is what kinect struggles hard.

[@bjornragnarsson8230]

Thcnx for the great information 👍🏻

[@KRGraphicsCG]

This is pretty cool. I normally use photogrammetry with my Nikon DSLR camera, but for making masks, this will be a very handy tool to have. And the price point isn't bad either. Now for scanning outside during the day, best area to do so is in the shade or on an overcast day. How is the colour map detail?

[@mauriciodelgado1]

Gran video, gracias por tan valioso aporte

[@StumblingBumblingIdiot]

Nice! I was bugging them about getting something to show dimensional accuracy and they posted a bottle they scanned and measured that was well within most tolerances for prototyping without any manipulation! I would still love to see the last thing I posted to them done which is to either 3d print or just drill different sized holes in a piece of wood, scan it, 3d print it and compare it to the original. I think that is a torture test but I could be wrong (which I am, a LOT). Wonder if you put a black sheet (or any dark color) behind iron man when you scan it if it would pick up the gaps and fingers any better...just thinking out loud.

[@董道德]

很棒的评测，很及时也很客观，加油！

[@nctinman8775]

More detail on the Negative Lithophane, please? That's neat.

[@belisariussmith9095]

Have you gotten a chance to review the new Pop 2 3D Scanner? If so, was it a clear upgrade in scanning quality from this first model?

[@mircogallina4658]

Can you explain the command you use in meshmixer I have no understand the command for repair the mesh you say F O ??? Let me know many thanks... Very good explanation... next time show under the video the sequence of press you made.. for the rest very good... all

[@wiechman4648]

Awesome Video, I was shocked at the statue scan, BUT I want to know if the part from the car you tried to scan ever worked out? Thats almost exactly what I want to do, I am looking to scan some parts and try to print them and install the printed one back in the car?

[@JanKrummrey]

The scan didn't pick up the black gloves which is great for turning the objects. But it also didn't pick up your hair. Were you able to scan your head including your hair? If not, that's something that I think you should have mentioned as it limits your choice of surfaces to scan quite a lot.

[@diannafiredal]

while it was in reference to the Barbie doll, he specifically mentioned the manufacturer states it doesn't scan hair well. It seemed to do pretty fine with the doll, but I wonder if that has something to do with the properties of the synthetic fibres compared to real hair.

[@schuhmansmodelshop8657]

It looks very interesting and would be great for making replacement part in models

[@gladiatormechs5574]

how does this scanner compare to PHOTOGRAMETRY used with reality capture software

[@ianofAustin]

Have you seen the Phiz?

[@SgtMajor82]

I'd like to see a review of the Revopoint Mini 2 if you have one :-)

[@10ProduccionesPixel]

Creatity CR-SCAN01 allegedly has a resolution of 0.01mm. But this model says it's 0.03 mm and I see a great detail on the faces better than Creatity's. Any ideas?

[@spatialpro]

What is 1) the sensor's maximum range; and 2) the maximum scan volume?

[@jakethebaron7039]

I have tried to contact the company about a review unit they won't get back with me.

[@krmodels]

What is the minimum requirement for a computer to stitch the mesh together, I have heard that memory is a big issue.

[@paint4pain]

I've used an older Creaform Handyscan to do a bunch of car projects, I've been looking for an affordable 3D scanner for myself for years since, this is the first one I'd consider on par with the performance of a 10+ year old Handyscan, a piece of hardware that cost 25 000$ back then. I'll try mesh mixer but for mechanical parts I might go back to Geomagic Studio.

[@BB-bs7hm]

hello is this handheld scanner will help me in the injection plastic moulds

[@MPTurtleman]

I would be interested in using this scanner to print objects that contour well to the human body, especially high gradient areas such as the face (ear, crease of the nose, chin, etc). Do you think it has the accuracy to scan such features well.?

[@TeachingTech]

I would say it is best at faces and likely bodies. The large statue was a goo scan but the face scan impressed me the most.

[@eddyogi]

Great video. Very informative. I’m a backer of this Kickstarter 😊

[@TheMidnightSmith]

Hm, looks like you could make a Zordon hologram like project with that face cut out thing

[@RogerBarraud]

What is a thready scanner?

[@STARGAUD]

HOw will this compare to the new Creality CR1?

[@kejaris949]

It seems the scanner still has a problem with dark hair. Also would a polarized filter sheet work for shiny surface scans?

[@paint4pain]

All scanners that use lasers will have trouble with dark and shiny surfaces. Spray on developer for magnafux ads a thin layer of white powder that is perfect for scanning and wipes off.

[@glowinggrenade]

The hardware for 3d scanning is relatively easy, just a projector (IR or otherwise) and some cameras. The problem is the software and calibration. All of these things use cheap low resolution sensors yet if you were to try to set up your own 3d scanning setup you would have a rough time if you can't program and don't want to fork out hundreds. There are so many open source projects that arent maintained/ do not support the end user. Projecting light isn't *that* hard and high res cameras are super cheap. its just the conversion. we just need a dedicated open source programming group to get this to the hobbyist level 3d printers are. I spent months trying to scan with a pico projector and a DSLR and I could have made it happen if the software was just a little bit more there.

[@NirateGoel]

But what's the largest object it can scan? Could it scan a large vehicle?

[@reprinted3D]

Cool, but still pricey. How about the Kinect V2 sensor. As I recall, it was supposed to have higher resolution than the original Kinect. Do you know if anyone has put together tools to work with the V2?

[@smithdoesstuff]

Same question. I have two of them and a 360 one. Would be interesting to see if a multi-unit scanning head might increase resolution or overall quality. I don’t have the knowledge to develop something like this on my own. Wish I did.

[@JeremiahHolder]

I had already backed the project and expect to receive it in March. I was curious about your method for the cool "art" piece you created of your face at the end of the video. Do you happen to have a quick tutorial on it or a link to a resource for the method? Thank you.

[@djarcas]

...do I spot an MCM Chopped! sticker?

[@emileros1359]

Good review 👍

[@HuckThis1971]

That is sweet. I myself get to play with a Leica 960 lr with t-probe and Leica scanner at work with Polylworks. This "scanner" looks legit, but it does require reflector dots to find its geometry in space?

[@rohanisousbois]

Hi Michael, thanks for this review that I know I can trust just as everything you show on your channel. I did'nt comment a lot here but you helped me so much at understanding 3D tech. Big up for that

[@eddiespeaks]

Have you tried the Windows based scan on Kinect V2? also can you try the Azure Kinect for $400?

[@ttcplays4570]

could you do an ender 3 pro video cause i see you only do the ender 3

[@AmaroqStarwind]

I'd love to see a 3D printer with real-time scanning so that it can see how well it's doing, and continually adjust its settings on the fly.

[@soupisgoodfood42]

Wonder how well this would work for scanning the outside of a car, both bodywork and mechanics underneath. Even if the accuracy drifts a bit over 2m, I supposed you could tweak the mesh by measuring a few key points?

[@Pygar2]

See Revo's video of just this...

[@soupisgoodfood42]

@@Pygar2 Thanks. Looks interesting. Seems they still have issues with something that big. But it's early and there might be workarounds.

[@t1mmy13]

Do you have an iPhone? You can use the face id camera to do the same as this does

[@andreasstromberg]

Can you try to scan an room/house/garden?

[@BabakRezai]

Curious how this compares to a Realsense D415/D435

[@marcins5584]

Can you test the Li-dar sensor by newest Iphone or Ipad pro? Many says that is a good 3d scanner too

[@glenngillan739]

what is a good scanner to buy if you are scanning parts?

[@cristobalcarmona9856]

Are those Chopped MCM stickers on the laptop?.

[@mrb2917]

yeah michael loves motorsport and has been on the mcm channel helping them with a project recently.

[@TeachingTech]

Well spotted. when I did the work in their BMW, the sponsor of that video didn't want any logos so we used the tape to cover those on the laptop.

[@smierockdanu2608]

Have you print the car sparepart? Die it Fit?

[@JB-NZ]

Thoughts on adding an external IR light source to the top of the POP, to try and boost the scanning? No idea if it will help or make it worse though...

[@rafael.s]

Micro usb 3? I haven't seen that in years

[@Thunk3DScanner]

Nice review

[@DRIX3D]

Hi, what about the scanning of your hair ? As it's black didn't you have any trouble scanning it ? Other reviews indicate that scanning a black hair is nearly impossible, what do you think about it ?

[@tomwest5083]

Are they repackaging the Intel RealSense 455?

[@chih-fanglee2126]

It's interesting that Creality CR-T is completely the same as Revo Point Tanso S1!!!

[@ThantiK]

WTH Is that USB3 connector?! Why would they use the old and obsolete "micro usb3" instead of a USB-C connector?

[@ayylmao.mp3]

Probably a lot of those still in the deep dark corners of some warehouses. Bet they got a great deal for 100 000 cables to use before perhaps upgrading to USB-C eventually.

[@TheLEDwheel]

This is great news. Although I am curious how it would do with an object the size of a 1x2 Lego piece. any chance you can try it?

[@1337SJLewis]

Handheld structured light scanners are just as quick as this, and will be of higher detail. Consider the Einscan devices.

[@RainSoxx]

Point is they're stupidly expensive compared to this.

[@TeachingTech]

What Saxon said. I haven't used the high end ones, I'm sure they work pretty well but you do pay for it.

[@shellumus]

Thank you for the review. It does really well, especially on your face. However, I might have to wait a bit longer as many things lost considerable detail(iron man,barbie) Maybe a software or camera upgrade in the future will fix that. Thank you very much and super appreciated. ,☺️👍🏾

[@mrnlce7939]

Great video. Just wondering if you have tried photogrammetry yet?

[@Martial-Mat]

When they can quadruple the resolution for the same price, I'll be interested.

[@Pygar2]

For resolution, quadruple the (retail) price.

[@Martial-Mat]

@@Pygar2 There's a constant sprint for technology to become faster and cheaper. 15 years ago, a 50 inch LCD TV cost £3000-5000 - Now they cost £300. When this is quadruple the resolution for £250, I'll be interested.

[@Pygar2]

@@Martial-Mat ... but the sprint turns into a crawl without early adopters like me paying the bills.

[@sircher943]

@@Martial-Mat I don't think this applies to 3d scaners, 20 years ago we had scanners that could scan in high resolutions (but were slow), the prices were similar to the new ones. Even used these still cost 5k usd.

[@Martial-Mat]

@@Pygar2 Of course - 100%. But I'm not an early adopter. I like others to take all the risks.Your eagerness to play with the tech trumps your risk aversion - mine doesn't. Money is tight, and I hate to be disappointed.