Revox B710 vs Nakamichi Dragon

Revox B710 vs Nakamichi Dragon - Measurement of W&F (also the speed).

[@zulumax1]

I just changed the belts and idler tire on two Nakamichi Dragons, mine, and a friend's. WF measured 0.026 WTD on mine, and 0.032 on his. His pinch rollers rubber are glazed and hard, mine are better, but still old. The next step is to replace the rubber rollers then I think the numbers will look much better. Specifications say it should be no more than 0.019% WTD and 0.04% peak. When working like new I have seen the Dragon run 0.015% WTD. I have a Pioneer CT-F1250 that I will check to see what it runs after I get belts and a tire on it.

[@RUfromthe40s]

the pinch rollers if not ok all deck works worse than ever, it seems being the most important factor on play/record section , all parts are important but if the pinch roller isn´t perfect it sure will caus it to play and record very under it´s full quality

[@jeffkrong621]

I don't care how much better the Nakamichi is. I can always fix any Revox/Studer deck myself, when it breaks down and sell it, while Nakamichi is a nightmare to repair and I wouldn't even bother opening it. Revox is more economical, cheaper and it will run longer than Nak. Ever been in a situation, when NAAC motor broke in Nakamichi deck?

[@HamtaroEL]

Jeff Krong ZX-9 and CR-7 are better than B-215 and DRAGON.

[@PedjoGT]

This is not true...nak for servicing is like any other deck and these decks are pretty reliable....Revox have issue with capstan shafts and you cant service that....you must send mecha to the Revox and repair is expensive like hell.

[@HamtaroEL]

Jeff Krong ZX-9 and CR-7 are better rivals.

[@TheMagicStar80]

I would go with an Akai GX-95 ..in my opinion it is the one of the best decks ever made..i had Naks and Revox they dont last and parts are expensive and hard to find.. just my opinion

[@tomzielinski9506]

@@HamtaroEL The Nakamichi 680ZX is better than them all...Better low bass, better Sound stage by far, and all metal better made machine. And you can take that to the bank, I know. Was told that by Nakamichi tech, and experienced it my self.

[@PedjoGT]

Low W&f on Naks is from head pad lifter

[@PAFT-Audio]

Removing the head pad lifter on Nak (it can be easy removed) still supply better W&F compared to B710/215 mechanism.

[@PedjoGT]

@@PAFT-Audio Of course...but pad lifter is great tweak for low W&F

[@FactoryPackages]

Hi Boris, Respect to the Nakamichi cassette decks models, which of the following is the best? 1. Nakamichi 682 ZX 2. Nakamichi ZXL 1000 3. Nakamichi ZX-9 4. Nakamichi Dragon 5. Nakamichi RX 505 6. Nakamichi CR-7

[@PAFT-Audio]

It is a personal choice but for me: 1. Dragon 2. ZX-9 3. CR-7 4. ZX-7 5. ZXL1000 6 and maybe RX505 For sure someday will collect the first 4 from the list.

[@UberPilot]

That's a pretty good list. I own a Dragon, ZX7, and a CR-7. The little ZX7 is a sleeper. Is cheap and keeps up with the big boys. I would include the 680ZX also.

[@UberPilot]

At this level they all sing. That's why you just buy one of each.......

[@PedjoGT]

UberPilot ....zx7 is not little at alll....bx300 maybe

[@PedjoGT]

Aarón Ibáñez Werthermänn .....In my opinion if you want owerall great machine for good price this is 680 or 682 zx....for me is 680zx is better choice....after owning Dragon, zx 5/7/9, RX and. others... in my heart is always 1000 zxl and 700 zx as the best.

[@ZUZINETS]

Я не знаю болгарский. Извините. Похоже с Revox B710 проблемы, Проверить блок питания, проверить пассики, азимут головок, скорость вращения ЛПМ и настраивать воспроизведение по тест кассете и далее всё как обычно.

[@PAFT-Audio]

Владимир Коротков It was fully rebuilded. mobile.facebook.com/lab2104/albums/1655311341169228/?ref=page_internal The problem is with its weak magnets in DD motors.

[@51_Edw_spb_ru]

чувак, какие пассики в ревоксе? :-) Ты их видел?

[@IanGorboun]

Интересно, а что это за язык и почему я его понимаю? :)

[@1firecat1]

Welches besser ist? Da muss ich mal den Willi (Studer) fragen. Der weiss das bestimmt.

[@PAFT-Audio]

Но не е знаел (Willi), че на неговите машини ще им се скапят магнитите на директните мотори, което е нормално за 40 годишни железа.

[@Badassvidsz]

Both beast machines :-)

[@aa8844]

здравейте! от къде може да се намери тестова касета на 1 кхц и колко струва?

[@PAFT-Audio]

www.ebay.com/itm/TEAC-Level-Test-Tape-MTT-112BN-1Hz-0dB-New/123422984894?hash=item1cbc954abe:g:pNoAAOSwD89bwZdm:rk:20:pf:0

[@petepictures]

Super

[@RUfromthe40s]

i prefer the revox , but have a big colection of nakamichi components ,this and the B215 as the phase linear 7000 from series two and the Z-7000 or the 5000 from TEAC, nakamichi has some issues to it´s building material quality(plastic, the most cheap, heat is a problem), the worst of all is the Dragon ,have you got those decks working as new ,the nakamichi wow and fluter is worst in nakamichi´s ,the TEAC Z-7000 is out of this world quality and it works today with perfection just by doing the regular maintenace ,the nakamichi´s all had to be repaired by a old nakamichi technician in London where my sister lives, mainly i always used Maxell,TDK and SONY also BASF till 1985 and sony in late 80´s till mid 90´s, tdk was the only brand that even building their cassettes more cheap they kept the quality, normally only C60 cassettes

[@Schlipperschlopper]

The 1989 Sony TCK 950 ES deck beats both hands down in every respect, the old Revox and the overrated Dragon....Sony 950 Deck has the very best all around quality, and sound, followed by the superb ASC 3001 Studio Cassette Deck from Germany. If you look inside of a Dragon it has the built and cirquit qiality of an old transistor radio...revox is better. If you want a workhouse super reliable deck get an Akai GX75 Mk2 or 95...

[@PAFT-Audio]

I'm sure :) I have 909es, also Akai 95 and 91. Both far away in souding and especially on wow&flutter.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

@@PAFT-Audio When worn out ;-)

[@giacyross7231]

Akai GX 95!!! Great tape deck!!!

[@FactoryPackages]

Nakamichi Dragon has less wow&flutter

[@harrystevens3885]

Yes it's zero when it's not working which is often....

[@Badassvidsz]

Harry Stevens :: Hahaha i saw what you did there bad boy :-)

[@MrMissingReel]

@@harrystevens3885 😂

[@aa8844]

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