Rewriting Course Ep. 9 - Fixing Your Major Scenes

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Today I'm talking about how to fix problems in your pivotal scenes (midpoint, climax, etc) and how to take the 3 levels of conflict and use them together in 1 important scene.
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[@TylerMowery]

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[@dustyhills8911]

Hey Tyler. Curious if you plan on ever doing any live script reading again?? Thanks!

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

@@dustyhills8911 he made a poll on whether he should do that again, and most people voted yes. I think he'll do it again.

[@dustyhills8911]

@@TomEyeTheSFMguy thanks. I was thinking about submitting a script

[@francescograndinelli2285]

I'm a film student, and I love contents like this one. Thanks so much for your videos.

[@benjaminread5287]

The Dark Knight Scene is an interesting one, because it is consciously forcing the protagonist to make a philosophical point. As in that's exactly what the Joker is doing. Whereas most of the time a writer will want circumstances to force the protagonist to make a philosophical choice as a byproduct as such. More subtly.

[@dirapropa]

You have a super ability to explain things

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

Wow. Last video was 3 days ago. These are coming out faster.

[@LeafarMind]

Wow, clear and actionable. Great video.

[@Kiilluah]

This Rewritinfg course has helped me a lot with my future manga. Thank you a lot Tyler!!!!

[@luvkumarrajpoot4476]

can you please make a detailed video on NON-LINER STROY STRUCTURE,

[@Kiilluah]

No such thing exist

[@naziminterstingly2227]

Keep it up!

[@KenyaWright]

Super helpful

[@cloudiow]

What is the real differencr between internal stakes and philosophical conflict? Both are internal right?

[@benjaminread5287]

My thoughts exactly. I think the difference Tyler makes is that the internal conflict is personal and emotional and the philosophical conflict is just the exploration of a philosophical idea, which can actually be presented through external conflict as well as internal, as shown in the Dark Knight.

[@jessegoonerage3999]

Internal conflict is what is important to the characters. Philosophical conflict is what is important to the audience.

[@aaron4647]

Tyler has no references he is a newbie and tries you to sell his own course. It is a making money strategy and you will learn crap from him. It works like a placebo you think you making progress but really you only learn techniques which are not worth to learn and also brings you up from learning your own style of creating new ideas and stories. He only made 1 script, he has not won any Filmfestival/Oscar etc. It is the same for most of the courses. You do not need any paid courses to get good in writing. Do not listen to this bullshit!!!

[@Ruylopez778]

Ah, the same old brainless comments... 1. Use some logic, genius, an Oscar winner can't tell you how to write scripts and be "successful". All they can tell you, if anything, is how THEY did it, with THEIR process - and often they can't even articulate how they do it clearly. 2. What people like Tyler do, is give you a framework. It might work, it might not, but all they guarantee is a PROCESS. They don't guarantee results. Adults can pick and choose how to spend their time and money, and if they think it's worth it. 3. Every writer is different. So any writing advice or process suits some people more than others. 4. Getting a script produced isn't just about ability, and being able to write a great script doesn't guarantee you can help others. 5. Tyler has read a lot script submissions, so he knows the common problems new writers have with their scripts. Take it or leave it. 6. Any book/course on writing, by anyone can be useful to the learner based on their way of working and mindset. Not every great sports player makes a great coach or manager, and not every great manager was a great player. That's because they are *different skills* so claiming someone can't teach you anything because they haven't won any awards is obviously a silly way to think. Whether the course or advice is worth it is up to the individual and what they get from it. Is it important to write in order to improve at writing? Yes. Do writers have blind spots with their work that they need to be told about? Yes. Is it crucial to get feedback to improve as a writer? Yes. Do you need to pay for feedback? No. Is most feedback by people with no writing experience useful? Probably not.

[@Ruylopez778]

@@darnellmajor9016 Again, use your brain; 1. none of these gurus guarantee results in terms of "success" 2. all of them reiterate that writing and craft takes commitment and hard work. 3. none of them are offering a magic solution. 4. all of them give you a process to work with, or a framework to apply to your projects, or both. 5. some of them (including Tyler) offer one to one feedback. 6. look at all the people who went to a film school or took a creative writing course at a university or college who complain that they learned nothing - I'll give you an example right away - people who comment on Brandon Sanderson lectures on youtube regularly say they learned more from his process and framework than they did in their accredited course. So there is no objective excellent, reliable, bullet proof way to spend your time and money. Look at other script consultants fees for people who have produced or written things that have been made into features or TV; it's a couple of hundred dollars or more for a couple of hours of time. So, no, anything you pay for to help you improve as an artist/creative may or may not resonate with you, and you may or may not perceive it as good value. McKee and Truby don't guarantee you anything except their advice, and emphasise the importance of craft. It's up to the individual to put that advice into practice. Sure, you could spend 30 years writing and maybe you would stumble on every single thing they said by trial and error or intuition. And maybe you wouldn't. Tyler has 150 free videos on his channel, including some where he is giving feedback on scripts submitted to him. It's up to viewers to decide if the content is useful to them or not, and judge whether the cost of the course is worth it, based on their own priorities. This idea that "gurus" can prove their course "guarantees success" or must be a scam is utter nonsense. It seems to me most of the guarantees Tyler offers is a process/mindset to finish a draft quicker, and learn how to make it more sophisticated/professional. The quality of that final output or progress is entirely down to the individual.

[@Ruylopez778]

@@darnellmajor9016 You are projecting way too much onto other people. No "guru" guarantees you anything. If you are looking for a guarantee, then you want an excuse for your own ability. So, watch the free content, agree or disagree, get a library pass and read as much as you can for free, and take whatever conclusions you can from that. Good luck. Maybe after 10 years you will have reached some insights about writing and your process by yourself, through trial and error. But all that TIME you are spending is not free... Please, don't bother me anymore, because you aren't willing to use your brain. For the final time: NOBODY WHO WROTE A CREATIVE WRITING GUIDE/COURSE/LECTURE EVER GUARANTEED YOU ANYTHING EXCEPT THEIR ADVICE ON PROCESS AND CRAFT, BASED ON THEIR PHILOSOPHY. EVERY WRITER IS AN INDIVIDUAL AND SOME PROCESSES OR TOOLS WORK BETTER THAN OTHERS FOR THEM.

[@Ruylopez778]

@@darnellmajor9016 I've taken courses from both McKee and Truby. They don't guarantee anything, and stress the importance of hard work and understanding the craft. They offer insights that can be useful mindset and tools to help writers finish their work, evaluate it, and make creative decisions. True you can ignore their opinions and advice, or find others with contradictory advice - but they don't guarantee that attendees will agree with everything they say - they offer their opinions. Pay or don't pay. Listen or don't listen. You don't seem to have any counter argument for how disappointed some students are when they finish creative courses. I have an arts based degree from a reputable college, and it would be fair to say that the quality of the teaching varied radically, despite the massive costs involved. As I said, any art is highly dependent on the individual. There's no guarantees and no constant progress, either. Life isn't like that. You haven't been able to back up any of your complaining with logic. You are speculating, generalising and whining. Go 'trial & error' your way to success and see how many "free" years that takes you.

[@Ruylopez778]

@@darnellmajor9016 Great. Good luck with that. Remember that trial and error doesn't guarantee results, either, because you may not even be able to see your flaws and mistakes. So you're almost guaranteed to be wasting TIME, which is the one resource you can never recover and therefore far more precious than money. Just like you're wasting time on whining with zero counter argument, no context, just speculation. Please, go bother someone else.

[@marshabrady5981]

If he knew anything hed be using his own writing samples but he cant because he cant write for shit. I mean who really tries using post production already produced pieces to try illustrating how to rewrite. Thats just stupid but he its because he can only try talking about it but cant do it himself.

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

What you said is utterly asinine. Why the hell wouldn't you use good writing as an example for how to write, let alone rewrite? This is such a stupid argument.