Sci-Fi Timelines Episode 9 : The Terminator

[@jimmy2k4o]

Endo Skeleton not Exo-skeleton. Exo-skeleton would be a strange choice for an infiltration unit.

[@tbranson9543]

Very good explanation. My head still hurts

[@garthdavis2502]

When the Terminator said "I'll be back", he meant it when the sequels came out.

[@adamgray1753]

In a Deleted-Deleted scene of Terminator: Dark Fate the Terminator says, "I'm out!".

[@jimbowlan5804]

I’ll never be back

[@DeesNerds]

Thinking about this timeline too much might lead to a brain aneurysm.

[@brokencortes7320]

I know that you don't upload daily or weekly but when you do, I get happy.😁 much love from Dallas Tx.

[@odizm5196]

and then....Terminator dark fate Happened

[@Jimdlux]

The Terminators are covered with "living" cloned flesh...that's why it ages and not rot.

[@scottporter755]

Surely the original timeline isn't shown in any movie. Sarah has John, possibly via a ONS, as its says his father is unknown. Then you get the complete convoluted timelines from the movies

[@theblackgoatofthewoods]

There is a theory saying that Skynet are planning to win in the long run. Sending the terminators back and making them the blueprint for Skynet means it builds itself and "remembers" its previous versions. As long as a T-800 gets sendt back Skynet will in the end be so strong it will win and breaks the cycle. Meaning Genisys might be its endgame

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

The black goat of the woods I’d tAke it a step further. Skynet realizes that each time loop results in the *same* John Connor, but an *improved* Skynet... eventually, in events that take place after Genisys, the humans catch on to skynet’s improvements and realize... JOHN CONNOR IS NOT THE SAVIOR! Rather, he is the reason that Skynet gets stronger. He is the uncaused-cause. The paradox. The problem. The big reveal is that SKYNET SENT POPS BACK to ensure it’s own advancement and the resistance- possibly without the Knowledge of John- sent back the T800/850/1000 et al. At the same time (heh) you have Sarah and Kyle jumping sideways through dimensions - some where the war is happening, some where it has been avoided - searching for John. See, at the end of Genysis, Evil John was sent through the time displacement device, which ripped out the robot bits and sent the flesh and blood man... somewhere. He’s lost in time ala Quantum Leap. ALSO at the same time, you have Evil John/Matt Smith in the future seen at the beginning of Genysis. After taking over John and killing the generals at the Time Displacement Device, Evil John returns to the human resistance headquarters and starts setting in motion the casual loops that we saw play out in the previous films. ... I really, really wish Terminator Genysis was a hit. I can see how the franchise plays out so clearly.

[@MsLucia4179]

@@tawdryhepburn4686 It wasn't a hit because you can't have any aging terminator and you can't have terminator without Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

MsLucia4179 yeah. Arnold aging in real time/John Connor recast with every movie is the crowning achievement of Hollywood filmmaking in my mind. It’s a symptomatic meaning that speaks so deeply to the themes of the franchise in a way that would never be permitted by a studio if it was being done intentionally.

[@BX138]

"Come with me if you want to live" is the first thing Kyle Reese says to Sarah Connor in the first movie.

[@Aqweius]

You might want to recalculate your math on John's birth--for a birthday of 02/28/85 would not be end of July of 84, but would in fact be May of 1984, just as her timecard showed--a fully developed baby takes about 36 weeks (9 months) and given a 05/19/84 date as her time card and a 02/28/85 of his birth, that is about accurate given time for copulation and gestation.

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

*THIS* I literally checked the comments once I did the math and realized that he was off by about 2 months. Good video, otherwise.

[@HeShoeTooBig]

Great video. I'm liking these different locations where you just casually hang out while hosting the episode, lol.

[@movietimelines]

yeah, i love going to the locations, since a lot of them are pretty close to me. i always try to be as unobtrusive as possible, although i really wanted to go down into the river where the terminator chase was, however, there were tons of no trespassing signs up, so i figured i should play it safe.

[@briesthoughts2261]

I love these videos!! Been bingeing on them all day :)

[@DarrenJSeeley]

Kyle was sent back in time before the T-1000 and the new T-800. As far as he knows, those who sent him back blew up the time machine after he was sent back. He did not actually see them destroy it.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

I think there is a ORIGINAL timeline. Where Sarah and probably that guy on the phone became Johns father. Just think about it there is ALWAYS a ORIGINAL timeline before the loop/Pardox starts happening.

[@movietimelines]

there's certainly a lot of ways to interpret it, but i think the existence of the photograph shows that what are watching is the original timeline. the fact that kyle already has it in the future means that in the timeline before he traveled back, she was in the same spot to have the same photo taken. without the arrival of kyle and the t-800, there would be no reason for her to be driving alone through mexico. that and the fact that sarah never really talked about john's father indicated that she had something to hide about it. if it was just a guy she was seeing, she probably wouldn't have been secret about it. i think those things show that it's a linear timeline in which events only occur once, just out of order. think of it like reading a book where the last page is torn out and put about a quarter of the way in. when you read it, you'll know what happens before you reach the end, but you'll still have only read the book once.

[@brucewaite3733]

I get how the photo can preclude a predetermined time loop but i think somethings in a time traveling narrative are still going to happen based of factors that are still withstanding despite the influence of a time displaced outsider. Like, why did sarah head towards Mexico? Why did she take that route? As the audience, we don't really know alot of Sara's backstory. She could have had family or friends down there, and would have always gone thru that route.

[@probot6515]

Movie Timelines the other guy could still be the father. She tells people that kyle is the father making them believe it or she actually believes kyle is the father.

[@AngelVasquez-lb8xx]

i like to go along the lines of alternate time lines. the first movie starts with the original timeline, but the minute the terminator and kyle show up it alters the time line causing the creation of a new timeline, hence why judgment day is always being pushed back, the actions of the resistance and skynet keep creating these alternate time lines. if you have read stephen kings 11/22/63 then you know i'm borrowing from that. in the end the time stream started to become unstable and it had to be fixed and i'm kinda getting that from the terminator series. as arnold told john in t3 "judgment day is inevitable" just my take on this great and confusing series lol

[@keshaponso2034]

I have to totally disagree with the theory of the original timeline. The whole premise of The Terminator was that the sequence of events always happened, and was the way that it will always happen as it is a closed loop. This is what made is resonate so much with audiences when they figured out that all Skynet had to do was not send a Terminator back in time. Now I know that my frame of reference is seeing the original as a child before T2 came out. T2 added the concept of the possibility of being able to change the future which was not followed up by James Cameron in later installments. It's the same premise from Greek Tragedies where the hero attempts to foil a prophecy and in doing so creates actions that fulfills the prophecy. It is definitely a closed time loop as confirmed by James Cameron, and The Terminator is used as a classic example of a closed-time-loop or the predestination paradox (also dubbed the Terminator paradox) if you study philosophy, literature, film or writing.

[@antoineevans8924]

The one thing that totally unravels the entire timeline is this one fact...in order for John to be born, Kyle must be there...but Kyle doesn't get sent back until he is older...but the thing is...there must be an original timeline...which means John would never have existed...because Kyle has to be sent back...but in the original timeline this can't happen...my brain hurts.

[@desi1790]

If you think about it too hard its just an endless loop of brain strain

[@bentramer682]

No, only TWO TERMINATOR MOVIES!!! ONLY TWO!

[@TheDarkVampire666]

John is supposed to be 10 years old in T2 but looks at least 15

[@localmusicians]

I swear somewhere it says he is 13

[@MAMoreno]

Terminator 2 says that John is 10. Terminator 3 and The Sarah Connor Chronicles say that John was 13 during the events of T2. Presumably, some time travel shenanigans happened in those timelines, resulting in the Connors being older than they were in the James Cameron films (since both the film and the show also contradict the information in the first two films that places Sarah's age as 19 in T1 and 29 in T2).

[@oldeskul]

A couple of things I've always assumed about the terminator timeline is 1) Skynet devotes part of its energies and resources sending its agents throughout the timeline to ensure that certain events happen to lead to its rise, 2) Each time skynet is defeated in the past it, it causes a delay that leads to it having access to better technology.

[@HeShoeTooBig]

I like to imagine that the time line is linear but things always change to varying degrees because of when Sarah conceives John with Reese. During conception, millions of sperm try to get into the egg. So when you alter timelines, you change the time of conception and therefore you change who is born. They get the same name, but they are entirely different people. So every john we see is a different person and are technically brothers. What would be interesting is one of the "Johns" were born as a girl. Joan Conner maybe? Either way, with ever new John, the events are continuously changed. The movie timeline keeps moving forward. nothing gets erased or re-done sort of. It all happened in orderfor these new Johns to keep appearing until we end up with evil robot John thus causing Reese to end up living and changing the the time of conception for John dramatically. So Johns birthday, judgement day, etc etc could change in each timeline. There is no closed loop, it loops and then keeps moving forward. So there could be hundreds of "open loops". There's no reboot or alternate timelines. it's all one big continuous loop where things are constantly changing because there's always a new John making slightly different choices, thus creating a ripple effect of different choices. this causes Skynet to make different choices and so the resistance makes different choices, which causes Skynet to be different again, and it goes on and on forever until one side eventually wins. The problem though is that the characters don't get to witness these timelines and learn anything. I think the TV show touches on this.

[@jazcc]

Holy....You really did your research on this one.

[@gmaxion2001]

When the Terminator has its gun to Sarah's head in Tech Noir, watch how long it takes for it to pull the trigger. I think that this happened several times where the timeline was broken. The reason for the pause is because time stopped itself around the Terminator and caused it to freeze.

[@dicched]

Appropriate the work man

[@forsakenchao]

I need another one, please make more :D

[@Endgame707]

a great franchise.

[@pearljam619]

Everything after Terminator 2 sucked donkey balls. My heart was broken after I walked out the cinema seeing the very poor Terminator 3. It was awful. The “Talk to the Hand” and Elton John sunglasses scenes within the first 15 minutes destroyed a series I had loved for 15 years prior. Kyle tells Sarah in a dream in the extended version but if I think to much about the timelines I go cross eyed! 😀

[@RichardBarkman]

Rip terminator series. But at least there’s anime version of the terminator.

[@ratedr8490]

How to follow terminator.. watch part 1 and 2.... ignore the rest.

[@desi1790]

that's what I do

[@meraricruz2840]

SUPER ... lol did no one else catch that ?

[@TheSwingsetKid]

This is probably the best explication of the terminator timeline(s) I've heard so far. And couldn't be more pleased it's going to be horror from now on untill halloween! Any hints to what movies are coming up?

[@movietimelines]

hints? ok, but i'll try to be vague to keep up the element of surprise. we're looking at maze, rays, puppets, past presidents, and turkey brands.

[@Wglass90]

Here is something that makes very little sense and something that always bothered me, if the events of most of the films are part of a constant unavoidable loop in time (as people assume by the fact that Kyle Reese had a photo of Sarah in 2029 identical to the end of T1 in the alternated timeline), then why would Sarah after being informed by Kyle still think Judgment Day occurs in 1997 in T2 if it was always postponed to a different year? If Judgment Day occurred in 1997, then there's absolutely no way Kyle Reese was always John's father, but became his father in the new timeline alternating history and thus leading to the events of T2 where Judgment Day in 1997 was prevented, or according to T3: Rise of the Machines "postponed". There had to be a time where John & Sarah at one point wouldn't of had prior knowledge of Terminators and Judgment Day either, otherwise Judgment Day '97 would've been prevented in the original timeline as well. As much as I love Terminator it has some of the most migraine inducing logic out of any film series.

[@raymondhartmeijer9300]

You're talking about Sarah's narration? I think that is suppose to be a memoir of some kind, looking back at the timeframe of the movie, when in that situation Judgment Day was suppose to be happening in 1997. But now Sarah believes they have stopped the war altogether. So she is just looking back at a time when that date was important, but not anymore. The visions of Kyle that Sarah has are there bc at that moment, no new Terminators have arrived in the present, they did not yet blow up Cyberdyne. The timeline only changes after those events. So Kyle was correct if Sarah would remain imprisoned in the institution

[@Xehanort10]

It's weird to think that in the future Kyle served alongside John but didn't know he was his dad. And future John thinking "I'll send my dad back to conceive me with my mother and he'll also die trying to save her from the T-800 Skynet sent back."

[@mauriciocontreras9910]

There was a deleted scene were cyberdine system was originally a small company but they found the chip and terminator arm which created skynet

[@scottieman2]

Maybe Kyle didn't know about T2 Terminator. Remember Terminator said he follows John Connor's order.

[@raymondhartmeijer9300]

yes, Kyle says in T1 that their team blew up the place, but since Kyle's arrival in the past changed the timeline, we don't really know what happened. The strenght of the Resistance and of Skynet might be a lot bigger, there could be more than one time-travel machine. Once the Resistance found out the plans with the (new) T-1000, they send one of their reprogrammed T-800's. Kyle could not have known this

[@edojyo_ji2567]

Brilliant - actually kinda made me want to watch some of the sequels past T2! Would love to see a Children of the Corn timeline if you have time, the supposed latest one seems to be stuck in post-production hell but hopefully will be out soon enough. Plus Linda Hamilton connection!

[@movietimelines]

you're going to be very, very happy...very, very soon.

[@koolz765]

The first machine causes skynet to exist.

[@JustinEvitable80]

The T-1000 was liquid metal encased in living tissue. As we know, the T-1000 can bond with other objects so after it arrives, it's bonds with the living tissue.

[@gameboysleepyd4277]

Man DARK TURD. I mean DARK FATE made GENISIS look like T2 lol. How do they keep messing up these movies? Why do they think it was a good idea to make John the villain in Genisis and kill him off in Dark Fate? I mean he's the ultimate heroe and humanity's salvation in these movies. WTF HOLLYWOOD? Do your homework for T-800 sakes lol

[@robtimuscron1126]

Genisys was crap. But...it's a masterpiece compared to the abomination known as Dark Fate.

[@anubis8181]

Forget the movies after T2 and just use the unfinished timeline from the Sarah Connor Chronicles. Atleast they showed the toll it took on John growing up and coming to terms with being someone he fears he isn't worthy of being and the whole timelines being changed by all the machines and resistance fighters coming and what nots. Plus the paradox of two skynets existing at the same time and being enemies of each other.

[@carloswilfong4341]

I think that skynet is trying to propel its own creation were John dies of old age and a it is superdooper advanced when its made so it can easily take the wrold. that's just my thoughts on it.

[@juanausensi499]

Minor contribution: the 'only-living tissue can pass' sounds silly and arbitrary, in-universe and out-universe. The thing is, that info comes from Kyle, who admits to the police in the first movie that the resistance doesn't really know how the time machine works. Watching the story we know that non-living tissue can travel in time: the endoeskeleton of the arni-nators does pass, and also the t1000, with no living tissue at all, also does pass. But we also see that all 'nators travels naked, and there will be a reason for that. My explanation is that there are limitations on the time machine, but it's not a living or dead tissue issue. The time machine needs to scan the subject (object?) very precisely in order to know what is sending back in time. Clothes and equipment, not attached to the main body, complicate too much the calculations needed, so clothes, weapons, or anything that is not part of a continuous single body aren't allowed. Members of the resistance saw the naked sending of the first 'nator, and came with the erroneous 'living-tissue' explanation.

[@ranwolf7650]

May 19th? Does Kane know about this?

[@KingofTheGojiras]

2:19 nah sending the terminator and that t-800 killing Sarah would stop the resistance form happening.

[@5672step]

My attempts of making scents of terminator time travel Timeline 1- no time travelers in the 80s, skynet is created much later, and judgement day occurs in the 21st century at some point. John wins the war but a terminator is sent back to kill Johns mother. His friend kyle is sent back to stop him. Timeline 2- kyle and sarah fall in love and conceive a new John Conner, Kyle dies and the terminator is destroyed leaving behind its CPU and arm bumping up skynets creation along with judgement day to 1997, the events of the first movies future war take place. This new John defeats skynet and kyle is sent back again to save sarah this time with her picture and John knows hes his father. Timeline 3-The events of the first movie

[@EricDG326]

I still don’t understand the timeline... So, like this then? Terminator Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Terminator 2 3D Battle Across Time) Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines Terminator Salvation Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Terminator: Genisys Terminator Terminator 2: Judgement Day Terminator: Dark Fate

[@AngelDRose]

You should do an update to include the newest terminator movie

[@imbatman9845]

so what order do i watch the movies ???? including the sarah connor tv show

[@MAMoreno]

Watch the first two movies, and then pick your own timeline from there: 1. T3 and T4 2. TV show 3. T5 4. T6 You don't have to watch any one of those branching timelines to understand any of the others. Each one is completely independent of the others, though the TV show mentions the cancer that killed Sarah in the T3 timeline (so the show may be set in a universe that directly results from time travelers altering the T3-T4 universe).

[@jameswhite-aldworth2804]

Are you updating this with Dark Fate?

[@CristianRodriguez-gm4hh]

Dope keep going 👌🏻

[@Bestialce2007]

Why are people so confused about the Terminator timeline? It's pretty straightforward and told linearly from movie 1 -5 (haven't seen dark fate yet). The only 2 things that you have to keep in mind for everything to make sense is that original JC's dad, from Earth 0, is a complete rando and the movies take place in Earth 1 and 2, because when you travel in time, you also travel in space. We don't know what happens to the world or JC or Skynet on Earth 0. We assume humans win, given that Skynet's time machine was a last desperate attempt to win the war, but the timeline they're changing is Earth's 1, not their own (after sending T800 to LA 1984). Edward Furlong, the dude from T3, Christian Bale and the other dude from Genisys are playing the same John Connor on Earth 1. That timeline ends in 2029, when JC gets infected and turned into a machin. Humans lose the war and fearing that Kyle change the outcome of that war, JC goes after him to Earth 2. Jai Courtney, aka Kyle Reese from Earth 1, then on Earth 2 kills JC and Skynet and that's it. The end. Kyle and Sarah are free to chose their own destiny without having to worry about the war. This doesn't affect the bullshit that Schwarzenegger tries to explain in Genisys about Kyle being in the nexus of time and that's how he can remember 2 timelines or some shit like that. The only thing that I can't explain is who tf sent him to Sarah in 1979 in Genisys. My best guess is John from Earth 1. This is how it makes sense to me ;)

[@raymondhartmeijer9300]

T1 is indeed not the original history, but also not the first replacement timeline. This we know bc Kyle has the picture from Sarah. This can only happen if that Kyle lives in a universe where he already was JC's father. The picture (taken in Mexico?) only can happen after Sarah goes in exile after the events from T1. There has to be a timeline in between the original and the movie where Kyle goes to 1984 and doesn't know what Sarah looks like

[@Bestialce2007]

@@raymondhartmeijer9300 Yeah, that makes sense. So we never really get to see the original timeline and T1's timeline would be the 3rd in secuential order. Also, having watched Dark Fate, I choose to ignore it and not included in the T universe.

[@FrancoisJoseph_]

Having moved here to LA now I'm about to recognize some of the locations in these movies.

[@movietimelines]

welcome to LA!

[@reifuTD]

I laughed when you said the original ending to Terminator Salvation because after I watched the movie I kept telling everyone that's how the movie should have ended because one, It would mean that Skynet caused it's own down fall, two a great way to protect the true leader of the resistance and couldn't believe they passed that chance. To know that was an actual thing makes me feel vindicated.

[@movietimelines]

reifuTD apparently, McG had even written an ending where Marcus replaced John and then shot and killed Kyle and Kate, completely screwing up the timeline, but it never made it past the initial stages. I actually would've liked the whole Terminator as the leader of the resistance as well.

[@reifuTD]

Well I can see killing Kyle causing issues but that would have been lazy writing, They could have John give Kyle a fake name or realize that John never told Kyle his name.

[@accidentalmadness1708]

I'm suprised salvation got everything right. the terminators are real skynets a bitch SOMEONE GET ME A TIME MACHINE!

[@TEKKENKING23]

a lot of this timeline is not going to matter after Terminator dark fate comes out.

[@TheGoodLad89]

And then Terminator: Dark Fate just f*cked everything

[@TEKKENKING23]

I hardly doubt Terminator dark fate is going to be any good.

[@ronaldsprowal9978]

DARK fate. Will answer all the questions we have from Genesis

[@mr.weekdaymoviesandshows6494]

Who was john conner #3

[@chrispyfriedchicken9648]

maybe the t1000 can go through as long as it can replicate skin well enough

[@ronaldsprowal9978]

James Cameron Terminator 6 probably going Explain were Pops came from and what time he come from and who sent him

[@UrfellowRaccer]

TERMINATOR THE JOHN CONNER CHRONICLES

[@mikeyfn-a6684]

RiP 'Punk Leader'-Bill Paxton and 'Marcus' aka 'Charlie Bartlett' aka Anton Yelchin 🙌

[@movietimelines]

man, i miss bill.

[@mikeyfn-a6684]

@@movietimelines he was really just one of those guys..and gotta say im surprised his Bean/Shit mountain was over/under(?)-looked by Minty on his top 10 Weird Science video recently

[@robbieanson1218]

Cybernetic organism in the terms of The Terminator for Arnold Schwarzenegger

[@robbieanson1218]

It would also help if you actually included Terminator dark fate what do you see this one was the terminator timeline so I hope that you were cool that movie coming out

[@RadioofHorror]

Please do Amenityville they are so bad but it be great to hear you do it and suffer thru them 😂

[@garthdavis2502]

Do the Transformers movies next. I don't care what anyone thinks.

[@lordkarasu2263]

Oh lord

[@Hyapatia77]

I'll be back is phrase #2, Get out is phrase #3. Sarah's boyfriend in the first film was Stan Morsky, the guy with a black Porsche. A co-worker, USC film student with a producer father, Stan blew Sarah off on Friday night for reasons unknown. That Porsche had a sun roof, btw. Stan is described in William Wisher and Randall Frakes' official 1985 novel adaptation as a cross between Tom Cruise and Pee Wee Herman. Sooo... Scott Bakula? Voiced on screen, btw, byyy-... James Cameron. He was likely the father of John. He may have cheated on her, prompting her to eventually hook up with Gant, the Green Beret reffed by John in T-2. Original John is Stan's son, Gant taught Sarah and John guerilla warfare. Kyle, born around 2001-2002, commanded first by Perry, was seconded to John in 2027, or so. John liked his skills, pluck, and personality, knew he'd be the best choice to defend Sarah, then sent him back. Then things changed. There were two time travels before the film took place, making Reese the father from the second time on. Every successive John looks different due to being a parrallel universe. For instance, only Nick Stahl is shown as the same actor as 20s and middle-aged John. Also, Kyle wasn't told because time was rewritten every time Kyle went back and saved Sarah, plus the T-1000 was covered in the same vat-grown flesh as the T-800, so it could travel back. Once it arrived, it disposed of it, or it was burned off. In the second novel of Terminator- the first novel written by English author Shaun Hutson and published concurrent with the movie- Wisher and Frakes' 1985 novel described Reese being slathered with a conducting jelly, to help with the travel. The machines likely had it too, in order to keep their flesh unscathed. Note how the arrivals differ between films: in T-1, Arnold's feet are flush with the ground. In T-2 and 3, the ground is dug out in the shape of a bubble. Things changed. Improvements?

[@Enigmahoodie]

At 12:17 when you say its 1997 for judgement day. You can see 2 prius blown up. Lol wtf

[@movietimelines]

product placement apparently beats time paradoxes!

[@Enigmahoodie]

Movie Timelines hey keep this vids coming out. I watch most of your horror ones

[@robbieanson1218]

I am planning on doing the screenplay for the next terminator this time it’s going to be about pops prime also known as Carl going through the linear timeline and cracking it and also having flashbacks of him and John Connor before the events of the death of John Connor in terminator dark fate and it is one of the best ones that we do have and I was the only person that was in the theaters watching that movie and you left down out and I know you’re a fan of it and I know you do not get the future war as was expected and I will be the one to do that so I hope that you redo this one including worth Terminator dark fate taking place imagine my movie and where that’s going to be because that one is going to either be in between terminator salvation or between Terminator Genisys and a terminator dark fate he want some answers about this here is the best yes I can give you is this That we do need the future war and I want to be the one to give that one so I’m going to do his name is terminator no feet then do the screenplay and Hannah on over to Arnold Schwarzenegger I don’t wear this time he will not be protecting John Connor or protecting anybody in general at this point so this time he’s going through the future and past and present day and time so I hope this gives you some answers about that because mine is not going to have Arenanator and show him as the person before he was with the resistance band Skynet set a circle order for the films it’s going to take place at this time if I am reading this right then it would have to go all out like this Genesis Skynet Legion Terminator the movie Terminator 2 judgment day Terminator 3 rise of the machines Terminator 4 salvation Terminator 5 future war Terminator 6 Genesis Terminator 7 dark fate So if I’m reading this right then John Connor dies in the new future just ago what was said but for the past future of John Connor‘s dies his hand as the T8 50 model killed John Connor after defeating the original war so vain both of us has shown the world how does the timeline of these movies can go but as for the Terminator Genisys I don’t think it’s really a reboot or anything like that I think that one actually is this retelling the story when you’re up to the events of Terminator dark fate that’s what I’m thinking here so the best way to explain that is to redo this video and by doing it again when my movies come out doesn’t my movies mean the film down think about doing and do a screen writing of terminator future war that’s what I’m going to give to the world you can update this one by redoing it so you love that one out on purpose I did is go back to the basics pretty much so that is what I’m going to do is go back to the basics and show the future war in a way it should be told so other than net Josh I hope that you redo this one and show the world that I’m going to give the future how is it in between terminator salvation and Genesis so other than that Josh I hope that you redo this video because we get to the movies that is out but one is he has a calm and I am going to be the one to write out the the future war film that was supposed to be out in the first place and I don’t think that was gonna be released at all but the best way to do that is to have me to ride the future war film and that’s gonna be at the end of it where terminator T 50 model becomes pops then become Pops prime also known as Carl all will be revealed my body And you do have a very beautiful family

[@robbieanson1218]

Robot no cyborg no it is a cybernetic organism

[@TheSYPHERIA]

Awesome you went there! Speaking of going there, have you ever gone to the Terminator 3D Ride? It's sweet as fuck! I had no idea about the alternative ending in Salvation. I know a lot of people hated it but I liked it, especially seeing older and clunkier models of the T600 or whatever the one was called with the minigun.

[@movietimelines]

yeah, i used to work up at universal, so i got to go to T2-3D a few times before they shut it down. my line in my video where i say that it was "super" was a joke about the ride, because before you watched the movie, a live action cyberdyne employee would come out and talk to you, and she would always that everything was super. It was a pretty cool attraction, but it was definitely a bit dated at the end there.

[@jameswhite-aldworth2804]

Hang on hang on. 1 saying the computers should have calculated success rates and such is a little unfair as the film was made in 1984 per internet and when computers were the sizes of family cars. All future tech is pure speculation and fantasy so it’s not reasonable to apply modern knowledge to past failures to accurately predict technological developments. Secondly and more importantly babies take 9 months to appear from conception to birth. If John was conceived in May then the February birth date is spot on.

[@nickbruce6859]

Hahaha..... he past you just doesn't know about dark fate yet.... enjoy it.

[@jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822]

You forgot to add terminator the Sara Conner chronicles!

[@movietimelines]

i talk about it at the 17:00 mark. i usually mention but don't include tv entries of a series, unless they're integral to the film series' continuity. that being said, i enjoyed the hell out of that show.

[@jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822]

Movie Timelines well then you can't completely give the proper timelines if you don't include everything in the series including the comics and the t.v. shows

[@imblacksoimslow5731]

One day people will understand this movie but by then it will be too late!lol

[@bioganja]

3:53 a child is born 40 weeks after conception. If John is born on 2/28/1985 then it would place the events of the first Terminator on the week of May 19 1985 not toward the end of July as you had stated

[@comixexiled152]

Robo cop next

[@movietimelines]

ComiX Exiled i will be doing robocop sometime in the near future, but it's going to be Horror Timelines all the way until halloween now!

[@davidnunez4256]

Sarah Connor Chronicles should've been included in this. And if they do RoboCop, they should also include RoboCop: The Series.

[@movietimelines]

when i first came up with the concept of the series, i decided to only utilize film installments of a series, unless a television series was considered canon to the film. it's always tempting to delve into the tv shows, and comics, and other media that a lot of these franchises spill into, but i chose to focus on the films only. sarah connor chronicles was a damn good show, though.

[@garthdavis2502]

@@davidnunez4256 And the two animated series.

[@DMitr0]

after dark fate, most people probably wished for genisys 2 😆 i for my part enjoy the arnie terminators except dark fate of course. the series transformed from horror, into comedy, after T2, nothing else was possible.

[@Godzilla-tu2cd]

Can you do the hatchet trilogy?

[@movietimelines]

David Brown at some point. Apparently, there's a fourth one now as well, that's going to be released next month.

[@Godzilla-tu2cd]

Movie Timelines I just saw the trailer for hatchet 4 and I'm excited for this movie

[@creatureslim]

The t800 has a heart to keep its skin alive.

[@jameswhite-aldworth2804]

Dude you’re totally wrong about there being an error in John’s birth date. Ask your wife if you’re not sure about length of pregnancy

[@robdrummond9693]

One comment. Bit philosophical. You don’t have to be a genius to have intelligence. You just have to have enough intelligence to know you exist and the screw up trying to perpetuate that. So every plot loophole can be explained by the machines being clever but … not THAT clever

[@peterdanior4538]

I prefer the idea that time is immutable and that the actions of a time traveler aren't supposed to alter the timeline but actually fulfill it. The sequels obviously don't agree. In my head, the continuous time travel "broke time", and that's why it got all wonky.

[@movietimelines]

i really feel like that the immutable timeline was the direction that the first film was going in, and t2 can still kinda fit that description if you go with the idea that they didn't alter the future by destroying the chip.

[@AndrewGray1987]

Someone tell Scientist Man he's out of a job.

[@Theghost-kc9gu]

I love the Terminator movies except for gynisis I hate gynisis it just sucks ass

[@Sauronsbane]

T1 and T2 are the only canon films. That is the only good film canon.

[@brokencortes7320]

Well if metal can't travel thru time how can Arny, in the first film travel....this is a big plothole!!

[@movietimelines]

they cover it in the film. as long as the metal is covered by organic matter, it can go back, which is why arnie was covered in actual flesh and blood.

[@brokencortes7320]

@@movietimelines oh ok sorry for my stupidity.

[@TheDarthvalen]

Dude you so wrong in this vid

[@eriktruchinskas3747]

she may be badass but she still got taken by khal drogo

[@movietimelines]

ah, yes. but he's aquaman now, so i think she wins.

[@gadgettherobotstudios6055]

you forgot Dark Fate :(

[@movietimelines]

this video was done about a year before dark fate came out. i will eventually do an update.

[@gadgettherobotstudios6055]

@@movietimelines Thanks Friend, i just wanted to remind you that you forgot that film ^_^

[@chrisdee1583]

That film is best forgotten, just awful.

[@gadgettherobotstudios6055]

christopher donaghy fuck off, that film was Great in My opinion

[@chrisdee1583]

@@gadgettherobotstudios6055 What was great about it? I'm interested in what you thought was good about it considering it rendered Terminator 1 and 2 pointless?

[@robbieanson1218]

Want to video but didn't really like the ending part where are you went darn darn darn darn Little bit too weird

[@movietimelines]

i don't understand what part you mean?